It wasn't all *that* secret. They used Mirages (which neither Israel nor the US operates!), the US and Israel both denied the attack, and it occurred in retaliation to an Iranian attack on the UAE (and also provoked yet another Iranian retaliatory strike on the UAE).
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supershinythings1 day ago
+2683
I see UAE putting in orders for Ukrainian drone tech.
The Ukrainian defense industry has the best QA department in the world right now.
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Consistent_Pitch7821 day ago
+1039
Yeah matching Ukrainian drone tech and expertise with oil money from the Middle East is going to be interesting to see. Drone production hasn’t matched Ukraine’s needs, but it very well could within a year if the money starts flowing.
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Rand_alThor47471 day ago
+361
Handy thing for Ukraines drone tech is their drones are c****. Other country's who develop drones should look in to that too. Making hundreds of thousands of c**** drones is far more effective than just thousands of cutting edge tech ones. Although the high tech ones have a use too. But you can't wage a war with only those
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ZiKyooc1 day ago
+257
Not only c****, but they can adapt them very quickly to new tactics and tech used by Russia. No years long R&D with procurement committees and whatnot to get next gen in a decade or so.
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SomeDudeYeah271 day ago
+69
Man that’s so interesting (despite the obvious morbid undertones of war)
Is there accessible news sources that cover this area?
I’ve been interested in updating my drone and bot tech news but I’m not sure what’s reliably objective and what’s overhype
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Josephalan11 day ago
+55
Ukraine has a new service branch for uncrewed systems. You could try following their socials, news page, or just googling around once every week or two.
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portucheese1 day ago
+4
what's their name
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Josephalan11 day ago
+10
"Unmanned Systems Forces." They cover air, sea, and ground. China also has some impressive systems, though they're not as well publicized in the West.
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MelangeBot1 day ago
+8
It was fun to see all the forks of ELRS pop up on github early in the war. ELRS is the dominant radio control system for anything fpv, be it helicopters, quadcopters or fixed wing. But the developers have always refused to implement encryption. So those where all forks that added encryption and it was clear that development was 100% driven from Ukraine.
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P1zzaBag3ls1 day ago
+14
If it isn't in Janes, did anyone really die?
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Quiet_Ad69251 day ago
+34
Reminds me of how agile the us was in ww2, look at us now. You either die a hero or live long enough to watch yourself become the villain- Harvey Dent
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BonerTurds1 day ago
+8
\- Wayne Gretzky
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DaSaw1 day ago
+9
\- Abraham Lincoln
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just_a_knowbody1 day ago
+6
\- Sun Tzu
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Uncool4441 day ago
+4
-- Deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 9
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Afraid_Theorist1 day ago
+4
Not to be cynical but that’s exactly why countries don’t buy c**** though. Procurement is a whole industry practically in itself.
At least until a major war kicks off (that the country is involved in).
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woodsidestory1 day ago
+42
**“Never put all your eggs in one basket”**
That said, exactly where does Turkey’s drones fit into this? Somehow they have been silent participants for some time now.
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TheBendit1 day ago
+31
If you mean the Bayraktars, their primary tagets are tanks and other vehicles. Those are pretty much gone from the frontlines.
Long distance drone strikes into Russia are suicide missions, and the Bayraktars are too expensive for that.
They could be used against individual soldiers, but the missiles they carry are too expensive for that and they would be relatively easy targets. Ukraine spends something like 9000 drones a day, and Bayraktars are not affordable enough for that kind of use.
It is likely that they are used for monitoring well behind the front lines, but that is not the kind of use which gets clicks on YouTube or reports in the news.
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Ambitious_Wolf_31161 day ago
+6
Pakistan used turkish drones in the last war with india. Some of them did cross the frontlines and got through air defenses to do suicide bombings in our cities. India did the same but with indigenous drones and some israeli ones.
I don't think pakistan used the bayraktar model, but turkey does seem to have other drones that are still useful in modern war and not just for taking out tanks.
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MindlessNectarine3741 day ago
+3
When was that war?
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Ambitious_Wolf_31161 day ago
+9
Last year may
Man 2025 was so weird with so many wars, at first even i couldn't recall the date of my country's war lol
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gc111171 day ago
+6
Remember when Pakistan went to war with Afghanistan? Was that this year or last year?
Too many wars to count lol
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beruon1 day ago
+46
Turkey is your Volkswagen and Ford. They make your mid-price mid-quality drones.
Ukraine is stuff like Dacia, making the cheapest not fancy, but working ones, and the US is the Ferrari, making the superfancy and flashy drones.
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SlimSyko1 day ago
+11
That makes sense, a car gets you from point A to point B. If you want a fancy car it’s more expensive but they all basically do the same thing, just some are more expensive than others and has more bells and whistles.
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beruon1 day ago
+12
Exactly. Dacias and Ladas are c****, no extras, kinda "do the job but nothing more". Fords and Volkswagens can afford some fancy shit (Like Bayraktars being good anti-armor etc).
Then you got your superfancy Lambos and Ferraris (Reaper and Predator drones)
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BestFriendWatermelon22 hr ago
+8
You already got some answers. The Turkish ones are multi million dollar drones with several metre wingspans, armed with missiles for shooting at stuff exactly like jets. These are useless in Ukraine/Iran now because air defence is too thick and they're too expensive.
Ukraine is making suicide drones of all sizes. Big ones that act like a c**** cruise missile, small ones like a anti tank missile or even a guided grenade.
But the ones the Arab states are really interested in are Ukraine's interceptor drones. High speed quadcoptors that travel at over 400km/hr. They chase down larger enemy drones, aircraft etc like the Shahed and blow them up. The new ones Ukraine uses use AI for target acquisition and guidance, making them completely fire and forget. These cost a few thousand dollars and destroy Shaheds just as easily as a £5 million patriot missile.
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woodsidestory22 hr ago
+3
You just piqued my curiosity. 👍🏼😎
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supershinythings1 day ago
+42
Why buy American missiles at $1 million a pop when they can buy thousands of intercepting, attack, defense, recon drones?
And Ukraine can send out packages - mother ship drones to deliver explosive drones, combined with recon drones to locate and identify targets, patrol drones, even rescue drones - they can operate in the air, in water, even track drones on the ground to deliver supplies or retrieve wounded or dead. They can do this all at far better price points than current US solutions.
This battlefield is evolving and changing all warfare everywhere forever. And it’s fairly c**** comparatively to buy in.
I bet India has a dozen labs filled with engineers developing their own drone tech. A new tech arms race is here.
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Rusty-Shackleford1 day ago
+18
I think we're going to find out in a few years just how overpriced those American missiles are ...
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BrocoLeeOnReddit1 day ago
+27
We don't need to find out anything, we already know that the contractor overhead in the US is insane, there have been multiple reports on that. Publicly traded companies have an obligation to extract as much value as possible from their customers (including the US government).
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Rand_alThor47471 day ago
+13
And the US government are all too happy to pay that. They should be trying to drive the price down. But instead seems to just be here's a blank check add as many zeroes as you like.
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BrocoLeeOnReddit1 day ago
+13
Revolving doors and campaign contributions might play a role in that but that's only a very far fetched assumption of course.
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wbruce0981 day ago
+3
A lot of American military hardware (tomahawks, fighters, tanks, etc) is based on theoretical capabilities of a nation they never went directly to war with. It’s based on 80 years of Cold War against Russia, who was spending almost as much to develop, in theory, potentially as lethal capabilities, combined with modern competition against China, who decided they could build similar-but-cheaper versions of American military tech. Granted, the 25 years of global war on terror has also resulted in similar revolutionary tech, but at cost because the US could afford to sink the money into it but it looked really really bad to have American troops and armored vehicles blown up by pipe bombs made in some shack by the son of someone who fought against them. That’s a different kind of tech as well, and works but was intended to be effective, not c****. And stuff like better armor, enhanced surveillance, and data analysis to find and aim a weapon at a bad guy isn’t exactly s*** headline making stuff like a bayraktar is.
Ukraine’s tech is based on desperation and immediate battlefield testing with limited resources during the largest combat operation in Europe since world war 2, against a massively larger and better equipped foe. It’s been four years and Russia hasn’t given up (in part because today peace would bankrupt their economy and force them to confront their atrocities). But they’ve been basically at a standstill for years now, which is why Russia is sending expensive hypersonics to Ukrainian apartment complexes and schools. Because those weapons aren’t effective against the front lines.
The result will likely be an affordable, probably drone based, hypersonic defense system that negates the most powerful and expensive weapons of Russia, China, and the US for a generation.
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Ill-Breadfruit53561 day ago
+11
Against an opponent with limited air defences this approach is definitely right.
The Middle East war has boosted Russia’s cash flow (which many suspect was a covert aim all along) but the massive investment in Ukrainian drone technology will have been unforeseen by Trump or Moscow. Which is quite heartening
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mothtoalamp1 day ago
+26
When the c**** part is hardware and the expensive part is software, scalability becomes extremely powerful.
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hubril1 day ago
+101
4206769 IQ move by Trump to secretly supply Ukraine with aid /s
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gregn8r11 day ago
+78
Oh yes, while simultaneously depriving Russia of it's Iranian made drones. Trump's really playing 4-D chess on this one
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Mana_Seeker1 day ago
+78
While simultaneously uniting NATO and swiftening the transition to clean energy
5D-chessing
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aw-un1 day ago
+40
He’s so right wing he accidentally made the loop around to being left wing
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SomeDudeYeah271 day ago
+13
Time will tell whether the accelerationist types will feel vindicated or act swindled by this
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Mikeg2161 day ago
+31
Not only is he the biggest driver of guns and ammo sales since Obama and Y2K.
He also single-handedly proved why NATO is more relevant today than ever.
And will single-handedly push the entire globe towards renewable power and EVs. If only so a ham fisted cluster f*** like this never happens again.
Billionaires only fail upwards. But this is exceptional... Breathtaking really
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BuckThis861 day ago
+41
It’s great for the developed world, who the UAE and the Saudis seem to have sided with. It could be an alternate source of drone supply for Europe
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Koshathenavycat1 day ago
+27
They haven't sided with. You forget that in global politics there aren't friends only common objectives, and goals.
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Axsmith2341 day ago
+75
There are no winners in war, may god have mercy on all of us. This screams WW3
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DiRtY_DaNiE11 day ago
+44
Nah, it screams everyone vs a failed state terrorist dictatorship
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Lemox861 day ago
+51
Do You Have the Slightest Idea How Little That Narrows It Down?
/S
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Nisseliten1 day ago
+32
The US?..
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3BlindMice11 day ago
+21
It's basically impossible to attack the American mainland. The best they can do is nibble at our overseas assets. I was about to throw in a good "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome person" but I figured it wasn't worth it
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NotTheBusDriver1 day ago
+44
Are you kidding? They fired a clown directly into the White House.
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3BlindMice11 day ago
+12
Ba dum tss
But yeah, you got me there
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Jthe1andOnly1 day ago
+44
They didn’t even need to attack US. We have been slowly tearing ourselves apart without a single missile being fired at us. The long game has been working. All the while still making money off of us at the same time.
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4art422 hr ago
+3
Exacerbated by foreign influence campaigns on social media.
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absurd_whale1 day ago
+5
Should I explain that for Russian who occupied my f****** hometown? They surely will agree that war is bad and there is no winners.
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shewflyshew1 day ago
+270
No doubt. They have the best, most seasoned Army in the world right now. With Germany partnering with them in weapons development they are already a step ahead of the US.
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swallowsnest871 day ago
+63
As much as I wish you were right neither is a step ahead of the US and many of the highest tech missile systems do not operate without US/Russ/China satellite infrastructure to support.
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My_Invalid_Username1 day ago
+36
Be realistic. Most seasoned by capita yeah probably so. But best? Nah. Highly outperforming expectations. Huge fan. But they're less capable on a whole than Russia and Russia isn't even the best army so no they're not the best in the world. Best drone forces? For sure
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ZachF81191 day ago
+74
You mean the country that’s supplied a ton of arms to Ukraine? Not even their most top of line.
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Mewhomewhy1 day ago
+161
The ones that Biden supplied. That hasn’t happened for a long time now.
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ZachF81191 day ago
+58
USA: 45% of major arms, with over $65 billion in total military assistance provided by January 2025.
Pretty sure 45% is a lot.
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RyoCanCan1 day ago
+133
Isn't that figure over the whole war? Biden gave massive support that was halted after Trump came in. What are the figures year-by-year?
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kmoffat1 day ago
+134
The US is providing almost nothing to Ukraine now except for what it allows European countries to buy for them
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Firm-Advertising53961 day ago
+96
Not even moral support, that's asking a lot from a president who has no morals or integrity.🤡🤡🤡
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Automatic_Bat_48241 day ago
+7
You cannot expect moral support from a man who has no morals and this US president has demonstrated an abundance of immorality.
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Dash_Harber1 day ago
+13
It allows Ukraine to negotiate with its friends and allies without US interbention? How benevolent.
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SuzQP1 day ago
+28
I think you mean "benebolent."
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FNSMatt1 day ago
+13
They are still receiving US weaponry, but now Europeans are paying for the weapons as opposed to it being open ended donations.
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Sleddoggamer1 day ago
+13
Ukraine might still have better QA just because the lemons are gone and they have active experience.
I can't actually tell if the people making clear mistakes like that are pro-Ukrainian nationalists who feel the need to parrot media, if its just because the wars been goung on way to long now and this is the depth of thought we have, or if some of them are pro Russian bots trying to help discredit
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Forcedperspective841 day ago
+4
They earned it, too. Let's get these folks in the EU and stick it to Putin's Russia, Iran, and all the other bullshit marriages of convenience in that region.
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OneTwoThreePooAndPee1 day ago
+13
Ukraine is going to become the military heart of the new European alliance, whether that's some NATO replacement or joining the EU formally.
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supershinythings1 day ago
+11
Nobody can say they didn’t earn it.
They bring serious real value to the table. And with Hungary’s change of leadership, is there anyone left who would object to Ukraine joining the EU?
Trump being Putin’s lapdog with his throat still gargling Putin’s shaft probably wouldn’t accept Ukraine joining NATO, but by getting them into the EU, a whole universe opens up.
And then after that, open their borders internally into the Schengen region, followed by the Euro currency, would be AWESOME.
One thing at a time though.
The most interesting thing Ukraine did was destroy Russia’s justification for wanting a “buffer zone”. Ukraine can hit Russia pretty much anywhere on that entire land mass without risking any of their own people.
A buffer zone for Russia is now rendered completely useless because it gives a false sense of security - buffer shmuffer, Ukraine can hit any target anywhere in Russia, AND THEY HAVE. ANYWHERE.
There is no safe place to stash anything of strategic value anymore. That whole open land mass that used to be a physical barrier is now a full-on liability.
By hitting the large bomber planes Ukraine relieved Europe of some of its anxiety with respect to the Russian threat. With the new technology Russia can’t really attack without expecting serious retaliation, especially if Ukraine arms Finland, the Baltics, Poland, and anyone else with the ability to field drones on air, in water, and even on the ground.
And Russia caused this new evolution in military warfare doctrine by attacking the very people who understand the Russian mindset best and therefore know exactly how best to rattle them.
Anyone fielding Russian tech - like India - ought to take a good hard look at what just happened. Ukraine is giving a clinic on how to dismantle the once feared Russian war machine. They are now, at best, paper tigers.
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Vimmelklantig1 day ago
+9
>And with Hungary’s change of leadership, is there anyone left who would object to Ukraine joining the EU?
Lots of EU countries would as things stand now. First and foremost it would drag the EU into a direct war with Russia as we have a common defence clause that's even stronger than NATO's article five.
But even when the war ends Ukraine doesn't fulfil the criteria for joining, politically and economically. They've made admirable progress since they kicked out Yanukovych, but they're not there yet and the war is of course making it difficult to move closer.
They're also a very big and very poor country. They'd be soaking up a lot of EU funds, which would be taken from other poorer EU nations. There's very little appetite from the wealthier countries to contribute more at the moment.
Then there are issues like European farmers suddenly having direct competition with Ukranian colleagues cultivating the most fertile land on the continent, and they would of course lose subsidies to Ukranian agriculture as well.
TL;DR: It's going to take years. Ukraine needs to be out of the war and prove to have a stable political and economic situation.
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Nav_Blue_Coolant1 day ago
+6
That’s actually pretty cool
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mcvos1 day ago
+3
I hope Ukraine prices them at "give one get one" levels: every drone bought from Ukraine should fund another drone for Ukraine. They've got the production capacity, but they need more money.
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MatsNorway851 day ago
+3
UAE money dumping drones on Iran could be an epic shitstorm. Drones are so easy to produce and so low workload its just money/production capacity really. And UAE got the dollars.
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elgydium1 day ago
+4
Quality assurance?
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supershinythings1 day ago
+12
QA evaluates the design and can test its efficacy in the field on real test subjects. If it fails, they can send the footage to the developers to remediate. If it works, they have validated the design and verified any fixes. That’s QA.
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elgydium1 day ago
+3
Very nicely put
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Ok-Delivery2161 day ago
+85
I think this is one of the main reasons UAE dipped out on OPEC after more than 50 years. Also to produce as much oil as they pleased. I think they’re gonna get a lot out of this debacle in the end and we’re gonna get a fat bill.
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Nukes-For-Nimbys1 day ago
+27
There are some islands that Iran currently control that are claimed by the UAE.
This is probably their only chance to take em back.
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MackinSauce20 hr ago
+3
yeah that’s not happening
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No_Balls_011 day ago
+83
Hijacking the top comment in hopes for an explanation of what Mirages means in this context.
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DirkTurgid1 day ago
+132
It's a type of French fighter aircraft, I guess only UAE uses them in the region at the moment.
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SamkonTheMankon1 day ago
+129
The Dassault Mirage is a French manufactured fighter jet.
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flatfisher1 day ago
+5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_2000, predecessor of the Dassault Rafale
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Frankie-Felix1 day ago
+69
Ancient Mesopotamian magic that creates illusions.
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No_Balls_011 day ago
+23
Exactly as I’ve suspected!
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PruneJaw1 day ago
+9
Iran is gonna be pissed when they find out that they mined a mirage and not the strait.
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CastleElsinore1 day ago
+53
We all saw the video of Iran almost hitting the Burj Khalifa. If anyone thinks the UAE was going to back down after that, they are either crazy or know zero things about the middle east.
The UAE wants the IRGC gone
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BadVoices1 day ago
+3
Not entirely incorrect, but i'd like to point out there are 5+ Israeli built Mirages (F-21 Kfirs) and 80+ other Mirages on contract in US inventory. Operated by Draken and ATAC, part of Textron under US military contract. There are more operating mirages in US inventory than anywhere else in the world.
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fotomoose1 day ago
+2
It's all so f****** dumb. Iran attacks UAE so UAE retaliates, Iran cries that they were attacked so attacks back, rinse repeat.
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Atticus_Spiderjump1 day ago
+1322
Don't worry I won't tell anyone
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Tbanks931 day ago
+89
Word
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Intrepid_Hat73591 day ago
+13
Excel
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jooooooohn1 day ago
+3
Me either man!!
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dombag851 day ago
+484
Not much of a secret anymore
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AndrewBert1091 day ago
+140
As long as none of us tell anyone maybe we can keep the lid on this thing that everyone pretty much already knew was happening
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dombag851 day ago
+46
I’ll try to keep the secret attacks on Iran by the UAE on the down low.
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Feeling-Ad-24901 day ago
+25
Thats it. Who blabbed?
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x0rg_new1 day ago
+3
They offered me free candy 😔
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LordSqueemish1 day ago
+433
No, I’m no longer an expert on the hantavirus, I’m back to being an expect on Middle East relations again.
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inorite2341 day ago
+63
WTF is a Hentivirus????
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chefschocker811 day ago
+117
Hentaivirus??? What’s that?
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misterkalazar1 day ago
+75
People inadvertently say "yamate kudasaaai" out loud in a high pitched voice. Only affects adults.
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namitynamenamey1 day ago
+11
I saw one season of hamtaro, it checks out.
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Whole-Cookie-77541 day ago
+8
That's how I've been calling it ever seems reading about it.
It's fun seeing when some doesn't react, and even more fun other do.
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TotallyNotRocket1 day ago
+6
I'm just here to warn everyone about the [Pipistrel Virus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipistrel_Virus)
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Real_Satisfaction7151 day ago
+3
Jfc. I hope this doesnt become airborne.
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Beneficial-Cycle77271 day ago
+166
I hate that Reuters became a pay site.
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chickenskittles1 day ago
+83
All the goddamn news is paywalled because the peasants don't need to know what's going on in the world. Just keep turning, cogs! 🤬
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solaranvil1 day ago
+55
It's especially problematic because the overtly right wing "news" sources like Fox News are free.
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xternal723 hr ago
+10
The reason fox news is free and reuters isn't is that rich people won't pay you for spreading their agenda if you don't spread their agenda.
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LughCrow1 day ago
+66
Secret is doing a lot of heavy lifting
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ZenkaiZ1 day ago
+3
NOBODY SNITCH
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lordlebu1 day ago
+20
If it's secret, how do they know ?
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+856
Yeah I'm not surprised, they've been striked hundreds of times by Iran. I don't see why they don't entirely ackowledge it, they obviously have the right to defend their country. If Iran thinks they can destroy refineries in the UAE without consequences, why would they stop?
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Madbrad2001 day ago
+398
> . I don't see why they don't entirely ackowledge it, they obviously have the right to defend their country
Because then Iran has to publicly acknowledge it, which means Iran then has to save face, which then leads to escalation.
A silent strike sends the intended message. Destroy your target, Iranian government knows full well who did it, move on. The message doesn't need to be publicised.
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Dotcaprachiappa1 day ago
+12
War is so strange. I know I did it, you know I did it, they know I did it. But I can't tell them I did it because then they'll know you know I did it and expect an answer
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+43
> which means Iran then has to save face
Honestly 1 strike vs 100 I think their face is still saved on this. But you're right it would be escalation, even more now "after the war" (the hot part).
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SitMeDownShutMeUp1 day ago
+5
Leaves the door open for an outcome where they team up together
Crazier alliances have emerged in the past
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omniuni1 day ago
+266
For decades, they have maintained a publicly unified face against Israel. However, many of the countries secretly have kind of accepted that Israel isn't going anywhere, and also that they're not really that bad to work with. But after many years of teaching the people that the Jews are the Enemy, it's difficult to just change course.
The UAE officially made peace during the COVID times, largely because Hamas spurned them, making it much more convenient, politically, to break from tradition.
Many of these countries haven't *really* had a problem with Israel in years. On the other hand, the terrorist organizations have been a constant thorn.
There's a very good reason that while the rest of the world was busy villainizing Israel over the last few years, the other Arab nations didn't join in to "help Gaza". They were well aware that Israel was going after Hamas, as as sticky as that situation was, most of them were just glad to see Israel doing the dirty work. It's why Egypt never helped deliver any aid, and why the UAE maintained regular commercial flights to and from Israel.
It's still difficult for Arab countries to take public action against terrorists they used to be allied with, but when those terrorists begin to publicly attack them, it slowly becomes easier. Also, you can start to see a pattern.
Israel fought a war literally next to Egypt, yet the peace between the countries remains strong.
Israel and the UAE remain on good terms, with active investment between the countries, and now we can see even military cooperation.
Israel and Saudi Arabia are collaborating on a new major oil pipeline that will circumvent Iran.
Israel is quietly working with the government in Lebanon against Hezbollah.
Tides are turning. It's just something that isn't very public yet.
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+70
Yeah and it's not even a surprise for saudi arabia. They've also been attacked by Iran directly in 2019, and they're fighting in Yemen against an ally of Iran. These countries know where their enemy is. And recent events where Iran directly and massively attacked them instead of at least focusing on US bases clearly won't help. This war still hasn't solve all this and if it's not solved now, it probably will need to be solved in the future.
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CastleElsinore1 day ago
+61
It gives them political coverage too - they don't have to worry about Syria, Israel went in when the new government attacked the Kurds.
Israel is targeting Hezbolla, an Iran backed non state actor that traffics, among other things, underage sex slaves. But then its someone other then a Muslim government working on the problem.
The UAE benefits from stability and a high tech neighbor who wants to exist peacefully. Shipping lanes, trade partnerships, medical tech - these are all things that don't happen in places that are anti-science or have warlords in charge.
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dammanhwhy1 day ago
+16
First of all, Israel went in when the Syrian government attacked the Druze. Israel and the Americans stood and watched when the Kurds collapsed. It was a tacit green flag given to the Syrian government. Also, the UAE isn’t worried about the new Syria. They’ve invested billions in the rebuilding of Syria and have very friendly relations with the new government.
It is a bit embarrassing to talk good about the UAE whilst simultaneously disavowing sexual slavery. The UAE is not exactly great when it comes to any sorts of rights. They have hundreds of thousands of south asian workers who are slaving away for almost no money. That is how the UAE was built. Also, The UAE is actively backing the Rapid Support Forces in Sudan which have gone on a raping and murdering spree in Sudan for a few years now.
The UAE is an autocratic dictatorship that brutally cracks down on internal dissent. The only reason they fight against political Islam is because they see it as threat to their own stability.
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Ambitious_End50381 day ago
+59
Smartest post I’ve seen on Listnook in weeks. Well done.
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alltheblarmyfiddlest22 hr ago
+3
It was also witnessed, the quiet alliance, when Israels missiles against Iran last summer went through airspace in certain Arab countries with their blessing. And some of them even helped shoot Irans missiles out of the sky before they got to Israel.
Publically, it's a cold deference. But privately it was another story. And the actions spoke volumes.
The countries in MENA are sick and tired of the IRGC/Islamic Republic s obnoxious antics and unnecessary chaos.
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LurkerNan1 day ago
+5
It sounds like strong economic prosperity is helping calm the differences between former enemies. Capitalism wins.
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echolm14071 day ago
+18
UAE is actually part of the war. Not really a news item.
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wgrantdesign1 day ago
+41
Www.noshit.com
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bigFr00t1 day ago
+337
Reuters citing wsj citing people familiar with the matter
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Every-Pollution4131 day ago
+259
Reuters (alongside AP and maybe one or two other wire sources) is one of the sources that quote unquote "mainstream" news use to cite their claims. They're one of the most unbiased news aggregators on the planet. If they're citing the WSJ, that means that Reuters has identified a WSJ source that is worthy of being cited non discriminately by other news sources that rely on Reuters. It's an incestuous circle that, in this instance, can pretty definitively be used to prove that the UAE has genuinely been bombing Iran.
That is undeniably a big deal.
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bigFr00t1 day ago
+16
Yeah I don’t actually doubt them I usually trust Reuters
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WCland1 day ago
+39
The term “people familiar with the matter” is used in journalism when the sources don’t want to be publicly identified. In this case, a WSJ reporter has some people in the UAE government or military willing to talk. The reporter doesn’t want to burn these sources because they can provide more insider info in the future.
From the tone of your comment, you sound skeptical of the sources and reporting. The thing is, reporters for outlets with good reputations are professionals, and take their work as seriously as doctors and scientists. It’s very MAGA to deny professional expertise.
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Trappist11 day ago
+63
Well... I'm vaguely cognizant of the issue after reading Reuters, so they can cite me next.
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This_is_me20241 day ago
+53
Dont worry, the buzz feed ai scrapers will. One listnookor described the situation as "One that I'm vaguely cognizant of".
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Oraxy511 day ago
+15
*Sponsored by Ground News*
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reineedshelp1 day ago
+7
Quoting Listnookors is a darkly hilarious concept to me. 'Here's a cherry picked or AI-aggregated statement from some guy online. The odds of them being real, acting in good faith, or remotely knowledgeable on the subject are small.
Next up, 90% of surveyed grandmothers insist you need to eat more; do we have an eating disorder epidemic?'
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Diamondback4241 day ago
+73
Reuters is basically the gold standard for unbiased, factual reporting. They wouldn't have published this without a good source.
Well, Iran has been lobbing bombs at UAE…. Not a surprise.
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timoumd1 day ago
+12
Exactly. If I'm UAE damn right I'm hitting back
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torina-to1 day ago
+67
UAE is done giving fucks
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Violingirl581 day ago
+9
I don’t think it was all that secret…
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simAlity1 day ago
+17
Just in time for the stock market futures to respond
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slayermcb1 day ago
+3
I thought that was on Tuesdays?
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Junior_Trash_139322 hr ago
+6
The whole world is arming up. That typically leads to one outcome and it’s not good.
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Zarathustra_d22 hr ago
+5
What, like a war, where the whole world is involved?
So we even have a name for that?
Seems unlikely, let's just keep starting wars for C***** capitalism. What could go wrong.
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DDoubleDDog1 day ago
+24
So that's what all those mysterious "gas explosions" were.
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rammstoon1 day ago
+16
I told you to not have all that taco bell
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commdesart1 day ago
+15
Like so secret even Iran doesn’t know?
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Icy-person6661 day ago
+14
The world has been burning since the world been turning...
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Ricklames1 day ago
+29
I mean, shouldn’t they? Iran is striking their infrastructure so surely they should rely on their own forces to retaliate. This is military 101.
In what world does a country with an ability to strike back not retaliate?
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Ok-Doubt-63241 day ago
+5
Calls on Dassault Aviation.
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CopyDan1 day ago
+6
Well, I’m never telling The Wall Street Journal a secret. Those guys blab.
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BoldNewBranFlakes1 day ago
+5
“Secret” I thought anyone who knew the history between the UAE and Iran already knew they were doing this?
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OneSignal64651 day ago
+8
I can’t wait for this war to end. The Ukraine will be THE place in the world to buy drones..
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euroaustralian1 day ago
+4
And they are also leaders in artificial limb development.
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Highlandertr31 day ago
+22
How the f*** do you secretly attack a country. Let's ask Israel.
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SpectralVoodoo1 day ago
+14
What kind of bullshit headline is this? "UAE has been quietly retaliating against Iranian attacks"
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1PennyHardaway1 day ago
+4
Well, it isn’t secret anymore!
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waffle-paladin120 hr ago
+4
Thanks for looping me and 5.1 million friends in on the secret WSJ
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Hesychios1 day ago
+7
The region is a hot mess
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LoadsDroppin1 day ago
+11
UAE = Jared Kushner. Am I the only person NOT getting rich off this????
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Sandover52521 day ago
+11
When can we just kick all the assholes out? I am really just pissed I forgot to turn the light out in the closet and have to get back out of bed again, but the shit never f****** ends.
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SumoHeadbutt1 day ago
+10
Begun, the Drone War has
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recoveredcrush1 day ago
+6
"secretly"
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compuwiza11 day ago
+3
Not a secret now.
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JustAnAce1 day ago
+7
I was not aware that the UAE doesn't like Iran. But I do live under a rock.
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Few-Statistician87401 day ago
+25
Nobody likes Iran.
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TacomaKMart1 day ago
+2
As with most relations in that part of the world, it's complicated. Sunni vs Shia. Arab vs Persian. Even the name of the Gulf is loaded with complication.
And there's a history- Iran retains possession of disputed islands that every UAE schoolkid knows the names of. Yet they're neighbours with all kinds of cross-Gulf trade.
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_mattm3t1 day ago
+7
uae buying russian jets, russia buying iranian shaheds, and ukraine selling uj drones to uae...
what comes around comes around.🤔
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Shag116620 hr ago
+9
There's all kinds of shit going on over there! I was just listening to the Senate hearing with Hegseth and General Caine. Trump is trying to get a trillion, even though there is billions in unscented money still in the budget.
Also, China is buying gas from Iran, and Pakistan (the mediator) is allowing Iran to park its jets there.
Hegseth is a lying, manipulating, talk show host, and that's back where he should be. He said our NATO had never helped the U.S., as much as we've helped them, and boy did he get slapped-down quick for that bullshit statement.
Republicans and Democrats were on him hard about all the bullshit he was tossing out. And it is so f****** annoying that he (they) always have to bring up Biden and Obama!
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Orwick1 day ago
+36
UAE is in for a rough decade. Their oil industry is out of commission for a while. They are losing their status as a playground for global elite. They have been drawn into direct conflict with Iran and they have pissed off the Saudi’s.
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itchslap1 day ago
+11
They left OPEC and were able to directly challenge Saudi Arabia's and Iran's hagemony and interests in the region and you call that a rough decade? If anything, they're punching way above their weight. They have shown Saudi Arabia that they are not beholden to Riyadh's will and they have just retaliated against Tehran's aggression in their country
This is like the small kid standing up for himself against 2 larger bullies and showing them that they're not gonna let them boss him around.
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RelativeLocation66691 day ago
+3
How the f*** do you ‘secretly attack’ someone?! Surely once you’ve attacked, the nation will be informed?!
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Gold-Fly401 day ago
+3
How are they attacking Iran?
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itchslap1 day ago
+5
They have advanced fighter jets.
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TheRavingDinosaur1 day ago
+3
" The United Arab Emirates has carried out military strikes on Iran, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the matter.
The strikes, which the UAE has not publicly acknowledged, included an attack on a refinery on Iran's Lavan Island in the Persian Gulf, WSJ said, adding that the attack took place in early April."
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Separate-Eagle-57519 hr ago
+3
Wouldn’t this be the case for all of the US Arab allies as well? They just want to avoid retaliation.
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GoslingIchi1 day ago
+8
"Reuters could not immediately verify the report."
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Terrible_Champion2981 day ago
+6
The drone attack on a UAE port that destroyed oil delivery capability was no mistake. This was early last week or the week before.
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Mr_Lumbergh1 day ago
+4
This isn’t going to end badly *at all*.
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Independent-Size-2581 day ago
+15
If it doesn't impact any other countries they can have at it.
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DeezNeezuts1 day ago
+8
Good everyone dog pile those assholes.
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Candid_Cat_59211 day ago
+173
Good. Hopefully they get more equipment to hit Iran harder if they need to. Iran just assumed it could hit and kill civilians in neighboring countries without any response. Usually that doesn’t work out well.
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lastpassonright1 day ago
+69
The UAE is literally funding a genocidal group in Sudan.
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Bushboy20001 day ago
+16
UAE wanna get out of the Mid East.
New homeland
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LilyBelle5041 day ago
+43
I guess Iran is attacking the UAE for humanitarian reasons then.
Interesting. Too bad they can't apply that same care to their own people's lives.
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lost-American-811 day ago
+185
Maybe a better option would have been for the U.S. and Israelis not to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation in the first place?
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MVP_Legend_871 day ago
+101
An even better option would have been for Iran not to fund and arm terrorist proxy groups to attack Israel with over the past few decades.
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Alarming_Head_42631 day ago
+9
Yes like right wingers pretending they care about protesters and that groups in the middle east also r*** children, much like the American right wing are covering up. Never mind also that bush worked with afghan warlords who also were known to r*** children...
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cockadickledoo1 day ago
+15
I cringed hard to see progressive Americans fall to Iran's propaganda about Epstein files. Like, do you really think they care?
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