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News & Current Events Apr 22, 2026 at 7:18 AM

UAE Warns US It Could Sell Oil in Chinese Yuan if War Drains Dollar Supplies, Triggering Biggest Threat to the Petrodollar Since the 1970s

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UAE Warns US It Could Sell Oil in Chinese Yuan if War Drains Dollar Supplies, Triggering Biggest Threat to the Petrodollar Since the 1970s - Defence Security Asia
Defence Security Asia
UAE Warns US It Could Sell Oil in Chinese Yuan if War Drains Dollar Supplies, Triggering Biggest Threat to the Petrodollar Since the 1970s - Defence Security Asia
The UAE has warned Washington that prolonged dollar shortages caused by the Iran conflict could force Emirati oil sales into Chinese yuan, threatening the petrodollar system and US dollar dominance for the first time since the 1970s.

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Plane-Breakfast-8817 11 hr ago +1722
Iran is already selling a large portion of its oil to China in yuan or yuan-linked structures.  There are confirmed cases of third parties settling Iranian oil in yuan recently.  Gulf states (like the UAE) are openly discussing yuan as a fallback if dollar liquidity tightens.   And on top of that, Iran is actively using the Strait of Hormuz as leverage—restricting access and effectively turning it into a geopolitical toll gate . Trump kicked the hornets nest into our yard with no plan, no ideas and no repercussions for him. 
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iRegretsEverything 11 hr ago +647
He is setting up pardons for all his insider trading buddies.
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Yvaelle 11 hr ago +240
That only matters if there are records left like \~5 years from now when the courts finally get a warrant to begin looking for the records of potential insider trading. When in reality, Trump probably already has Goldman Sachs or whomever, actively deleting all evidence.
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created4this 10 hr ago +155
Immunity for acts while president Pardon power Death Three ways to avoid accountability and DT has them all THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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pattymonger 10 hr ago +19
What does a pardon do when the next president can just write an EO that says pardons aren't worth shit anymore? That EO bullshit works both ways.
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AndroidMyAndroid 10 hr ago +51
The Supreme Court will rule that Democrat Presidents do not have EO powers.
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mollila 9 hr ago +4
There is lots of precedent that they do.
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AndroidMyAndroid 9 hr ago +1
Yeah, a lot of issues have been long put to bed in the US that are being challenged and overturned now by this court. Nothing is sacred, nothing is safe, nothing is guaranteed. Remember, the court has ruled that it's OK for the court to take bribes and "gifts".
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JimboTCB 8 hr ago +1
That's fine, the Supreme Court just has to establish a precedent that they're not bound by precedent, and then they can interpret the rules however it suits their patrons at any given time
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Silent-Act191 10 hr ago +56
Well that would require the next Democratic president to actually pursue the criminal acts of this administration instead of "Healing the country" & "Coming together as a nation" And honestly, even if the next Democratic president were to actually adjust the course the US is on to full fledged fascism by putting consequences on the Trump administration, watch Congress and the courts suddenly actually act.
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created4this 10 hr ago +7
No president wants to lose their pardon power, so don't expect the pardon to go away unless the risk of not being reelected also goes away. But why does that matter when if you control everything you can just invent new charges? It matters because one side cares about the rule of law, and if that side is in power then the other can use the law as a shield.
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Skratt79 9 hr ago +9
As simple as "The President can't pardon criminal actions committed during his term at his behest." That way miscarriages of justice can still be pardoned but criminal activity at behest of that president would not be pardonable by the same.
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created4this 9 hr ago +2
So a constitutional amendment? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution The legislatures of three quarters of states need to be on board (i.e. not a vote of the people, a vote of the people they vote in). Given that the States rarely change colour (35 of 50 voted the same way every time in the last 25 year, which is when the red vs blue terminology started) the chance that enough would go blue to get that law in s essentially zero
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arsinoe716 9 hr ago +3
That ain't happening. Trump has set a precedent where the POTUS can do whatever they want with no repercussions. The SCOTUS already ruled on Trump's actions during his first term.
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PM_ME_BEEF_CURTAINS 10 hr ago +26
> Trump probably already has Goldman Sachs or whomever DeutscheBank was his choice last time
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Nurgleschampion 10 hr ago +19
Bro the government that will punish these crimes is probably going to be one that's executing people because the gap that's been created is almost certainly going to only be resolved with violence.
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Haru1st 10 hr ago +5
Nah, all the manipulations get washed through crypto.
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Boozdeuvash 9 hr ago +2
You can’t delete evidence of a trade in public markets, everyone can see that trade and there are records of it everywhere, which is the whole idea. Insider trading investigations use correlation of trades by a person with suspected or proven access to inside information. The details of the trade are not really relevant beyond its basic elements like time and direction, which are visible to everyone.
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KGB_cutony 11 hr ago +94
I think it's time we entertain the idea that Trump didn't go into this war unplanned. I think he (or at least his people) has a pretty good idea on why they started it, how they want it to go, and what is the end game. Look at it. His personal and family wealth ballooned from insider trading, he's got unprecedented access to build his shitty hotels from capitulation, big daddy Russia made bank from the oil shortage, he found a good reason to withdraw support from Ukraine and East Asia, also laid groundwork for exiting NATO. Big win for himself and his interest. Another critical hint is that he captured Venezuela before Iran. That felt too intentional.
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DashingDino 10 hr ago +38
Watch Trump explain how he would just 'grab' the oil in Iran, back in 1980: https://youtu.be/Kjt7TO3Ptys He never had a plan, he's always thought he can just take whatever he wants without consequences
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FaceDeer 9 hr ago +35
People really don't like the notion that their lives are ruled by random happenstance. This is why conspiracy theories are so popular, they place the blame for the vagaries of the world on some shadowy cabal instead. We're seeing this with Trump in spades. People don't like the idea that Trump is an imbecile and the majority of the American voting population is moronic, so they come up with foreign puppetmasters or election frauds to "explain" it all. Far better to imagine that America was broken by evil geniuses stabbing it in the back than to accept that it broke on its own because its culture is just fundamentally sick.
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N-Bizzle 8 hr ago +1
Well, has he ever suffered consequences?
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zezxz 10 hr ago +14
They’re foreign assets because they’re corrupt dipshits, not because they’re in on the plan
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PlanktonFun5387 10 hr ago +5
Calling him a dipshit, while true, is disingenuous. It implies this whole thing was an unintentional outcome to a bad plan with unforeseen consequences. He’s a traitor.
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Eatpineapplerightnow 9 hr ago +1
nah, they are just dumb.
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doxxingyourself 9 hr ago +1
Yeah he had a plan for himself alright but not for the nation
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KGB_cutony 9 hr ago +1
why would he? The US is his company, he's working for his shareholders. The people is just his employee.
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Dear_Chasey_La1n 10 hr ago +11
As someone who actually trades in RMBs, liquidity is *never* the reason to not trade in USD. If one currency is liquid like a brick it's the yuan. There is one reason only to trade in yuan, when your counter party is Chinese. There are no proper hedging tools, there is no proper trading securities, there is no proper trading platform it's a b****. But when you got Chinese clients, RMBs it is. So which begs the question, why is UAE saying this, because sure enough their trades aren't all with China. My 5 ct's, it's a bitchslap to Trump to get his shit right. Imagine being UAE, you just gave this orange c*** an airplane and whatyouknow, he starts blowing up your neighbours and you are suddenly fucked because this dumb c***.
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Lundetangen 11 hr ago +21
Trump has always had a plan. Make money for himself and his circle. Global disruption means volatile markets. When you create the disruptions you can easily profit.
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frddtwabrm04 10 hr ago +4
Do they even really make money? We all assume they do, but the do they really really make money? It seems they are always hustling, like they owe someone money! There is making money and enjoying the money you make, and there's what they are doing... Always in the weeds looking for more to satisfy a debt, an obligation or else? They don't seem to enjoy what they doing coz you aren't even seeing them flex their wealth... Properly dressed, acting like they moved on up... You know the lil things that tell you someone has money! They all up there lookin two teeth Joe just as they were in the 80s. Like where is the money going?
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Lundetangen 10 hr ago +16
Money for Trump and other billionaires often becomes a game. It doesnt really matter if you have 5 or 6 bn. That 1 extra bn is not going to change what you eat, where you travel, what car you have or whatever. However if you make 50k per year it would take you 20 000 years to make 1 bn. So why would a person that has 5 bn chase the 6th billion? Instead of travelling the world, sleeping with supermodels or trying to cure cancer? Because they like to make money. They like to be in power. They like to sit in a room with powerful people and make decisions. They like to be on the stage, to be talked about, to be looked up to, to have enemies, make deals etc. And there are very many that have this mindset, but are not billionaires either. Most are of course not billionaires in this world, yet very many crave that attention or feeling of being listened to when they speak. Probably why so many makes podcasts.
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brezhnervouz 9 hr ago +3
> So why would a person that has 5 bn chase the 6th billion? Instead of travelling the world, sleeping with supermodels or trying to cure cancer? Because they like to make money. They like to be in power. They like to sit in a room with powerful people and make decisions. They like to be on the stage, to be talked about, to be looked up to, to have enemies, make deals etc Its a game of ego and one-upmanship amongst the disgustingly rich. As you say, they have vastly more money than would ever be needed to buy anything in their wildest dreams...so all that is left is performative ego-competition amongst the other billionaries 🤷‍♂️
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Background-Taro-573 11 hr ago +23
ELI5 about why it matters which currency oil is traded for?
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Kooolxxx 11 hr ago +105
Global Demand for Dollars. Since oil is a universal necessity, pricing it in dollars creates constant global demand, enabling the U.S. to borrow money at lower costs and reducing the risk of currency devaluation.
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Yvaelle 11 hr ago +101
The simplest way to think of it is that the value of the USD is based on the demand for the USD, and around 25% of the USD's demand is because every other country uses it for trading all their energy. So if you are German and you are buying Russian oil, you don't use German Euros or Russian Rubles, you use USD, etc. Everyone everywhere uses USD, and that creates about a quarter of all value in the USD. But if everybody stopped using USD, not only would their own currencies improve proportionally - but the USD would drop 25% in value. But it would drop even more than that, because nobody would want to be holding USD as a reserve currency if its not useful as the petrodollar either - so that bumps it up to maybe 33% of the USD's present value is due to its status as the petrodollar and global reserve currency. Both boons are at risk here. Without those special boons, the USD would be somewhere around the value of the Canadian & Australian Dollars. So it's a big f****** deal when Trump convinces even major US allies like UAE to abandon USD and switch to Chinese Yuan. As example, you know why the US kept trying to assassinate and overthrow Hugo Chavez and Nicholas Maduro in Venezeula? Because they threatened to stop using USD as petrodollar. You know why Hillary Clinton assassinated Muammar Gadafi the president of Libya? Because he threatened to stop using USD as petrodollar.
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WasThatInappropriate 11 hr ago +25
Germanys contracts with Russia stipulated the Euro as the currency. This became a huge tension point in 2022 when Russia tried to force them to buy in Rubles
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cowtippa2345 11 hr ago +44
Just to add, Sadam Hussain of Iraq was also invaded and deposed after threatening to trade oil in euros.
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ultrasneeze 10 hr ago +12
It's always a bit surprising how very few people remember this.
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ruffianrevolution 10 hr ago +9
Saddam hussein was also very vocal about switching to eurodollar for oil trade. Though how much of that was just to wind amerika up we'll never know.
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Boo_and_Minsc_ 9 hr ago +1
Khaddafi did the same and we know what happened to him
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SarcasticComment30 10 hr ago +8
I know nothing about this and just have one question - why does the world agree to deal in petrodollar if it can help their own currency if they trade in their native currency? Like AUD or CAD or Yen or whatever?
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prongs1547 10 hr ago +24
Answer - US Millitary (Navy/ Carrier Group/ CIA) etc. You cannot maintain a strong currency without strong muscle and whichever regime resisted - they were assassinated or deposed.
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Setacics 10 hr ago +17
Sanctions, embargoes, threats of US aircraft carriers and kidnappings or killings of heads of state by US forces mostly.
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JPJackPott 10 hr ago +17
American soft power/political pressure basically. Which is largely all expended now. Once the market exists there’s a good degree of inertia and convenience, too. It’s harder to manage things like futures and options if the market is fractured into different currencies
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Yvaelle 10 hr ago +18
The standard currency of oil during and after WW2 was gold, and the baseline for oil quality was Gulf of Mexico oil, and the USD was directly convertible into gold. So since gold was the currency of oil, and gold and USD were interchangeable, USD was a de facto currency for oil. Gold was the standard still, but a briefcase of USD was a lot easier to pay with than gold bricks. The US encouraged this by offering military protection to other oil producing nations to use USD as their petrodollar, and they agreed because 1 USD was worth a fixed amount of gold anyways. But then Nixon in 1971 took the USD off the gold standard, but threatened oil producing nations to stick with the USD and not revert to gold. That was controversial, and detrimental to other nations as you noted. But it bought the peace and protection of the US Navy, until now. Because now the US Navy is the problem, and using USD is only bad for other nations.
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AnRealDinosaur 9 hr ago +4
Thank you for the answer. Seems like it's makes no sense now for Germany to pay Russia for Russian oil in USD. We have absolutely nothing to do with that transaction. If it just goes back to a combination of USD being linked to gold (its not anymore) and the US's soft power (also gone)...theres really no reason to keep USD as default beyond "this is just how we always do it".
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MWD_Dave 10 hr ago +12
I'm no expert, but I believe it stemmed from the whole "soft power" thing that the US worked at for decades upon decades. Basically the thing Trump was complaining about to this base: "The world is taking advantage of us!" is something that the US actually worked very hard towards because while it allowed for a lot of favoured status to go to the USA, a good portion of the rest of the world didn't need to spend ungodly amounts of money on their military because of the stability the USA provided. That stability is gone. Ergo, there's pretty good odds the USD as a reserve currency is likely going to go away. Even if the USA has fair elections moving forward and puts someone reasonable in the White House, the damage to trust is very much done. That previous system is gone. (Which to be fair is exactly what Russia was hoping for.)
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Kenevin 10 hr ago +11
Force. The US enforces their popularity
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mcilbag 10 hr ago +16
Part of the post war global architecture the US created. In the wise words of Slim Charles though. “The thing about the old days, is they the old days”
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created4this 10 hr ago +5
Because if you are a really big arsehole you can "short" a whole country even if that country has a functioning first world economy. You bet against the country by short selling the currency, then as their currency falls they can't buy essential raw materials like Oil that keep the lights on, then the country starts to collapse. Foreign or global investors pull their money out of businesses which means that they are extracting money from the market locally and investing it elsewhere - this further crashes the value of the local currancy and the whole thing becomes self perpetuating. Then the short seller cashes in on his shorted position and claim a billion pounds. This sounds kinda hypothetical. But you should look up George Sorus and Black Wednesday (1992) when he did just that against the UK and kicked off the cascade of bad feeling that eventually lead us to Brexit. To avoid this you need to trade in a currency that exists in such bulk that its near impossible to short, so all over the world people stockpile dollars to ensure that the liquid gold keeps flowing.
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The-Sound_of-Silence 9 hr ago +2
The world operates in the currency to maintain open oceans & open airways. Since 1945, that has been largely because of the U.S, but that might be changing, possible soonish
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jimicus 10 hr ago +5
As a non-American - and I mean this in the nicest possible way - that doesn't particularly bother me. What does bother me, however, is how Trump responds when his little tantrum in Iran has this sort of effect. Because I don't exactly trust him to respond in a calm, measured fashion.
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The-Sound_of-Silence 9 hr ago +2
> Canadian & Australian Dollars As a Canadian, it is our goal to be a penny cheaper than the U.S, so people can buy from us. We have been 30 cents cheaper, for a long time - buy our energy!
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Ambitious-Bee-7067 9 hr ago +1
Don't forget that the US also went into Iraq because the British were making a deal with Iraq to buy oil direct in GBP. The only WMD was replacing the USD with GBP.
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Miyukachi 11 hr ago +38
Selling oil in US dollars (petrodollars) creates constant, artificial global demand for the dollar, strengthening its value and securing its role as the world's primary reserve currency. This allows the U.S. to run consistent trade deficits, borrow money at lower interest rates, and exercise significant geopolitical leverage.  Because the world will always need oil, they will always need the USD to purchase it.
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abratoki 11 hr ago +17
The way the US debt is propped up and is able to run such huge deficits is by other countries paying for it. Everyone buys oil in USD then all the gulf states reinvest that USD into US government bonds that fund the economy. No petrodollar = instant collapse of the US economy
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gemusevonaldi 10 hr ago +9
Yeap, that would be 2008 x100..
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No_Extension4005 10 hr ago +6
_Me realising that's probably one of the things getting in the way of green energy_
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brezhnervouz 9 hr ago +2
In that it's all completely deliberate yes
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Eastern-Peach-3428 10 hr ago +9
The petrodollar matters for two reasons. First, demand. Oil being priced in dollars forces countries to hold USD. That alone props it up. The second part is what people miss. Those dollars don’t just sit there. Exporters recycle them back into Treasuries and US assets. So it’s a loop. Dollars go out to buy oil, then come back into US markets, then get sent out again. That combination keeps demand high and money moving, which is a big part of why the US can run deficits without the kind of pressure other countries would face.
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Background-Taro-573 10 hr ago +5
I don't think any of you, who have responded, has met a 5-year-old.
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Deltr0nZer0 9 hr ago +2
I wish less of our politicians met 5 year olds... But hey ... what 5 year old doesn't have a highschool understanding of socioeconomic structures..?? education is clearly lacking
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Codex_Dev 11 hr ago +7
How is Iran selling oil if the USA is not letting Iranian vessels through the blockade?
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icebraining 9 hr ago +1
Iran already had vessels en route before the blockade started, they can take 2-3 weeks to reach China, Malaysia, etc.
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WhatsATrouserSnake 11 hr ago +8
Shart of the deal
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slicheliche 11 hr ago +49
Iran is trading oil in yuan not because they want to threaten the usd but because they don't have access to usd or EUR due to sanctions so yuans are literally their only choice to avoid complete and utter collapse. The idea that the yuan could somehow replace the petrodollar over Iran of all places is pretty stupid. Iran never traded oil in USD, and places like the UAE have no interest in buying excess yuan that they would exchange into USD or invest in the US market anyway - both because the yuan is tightly controlled by the Chinese government and not fully convertible, and because a. Chinese bonds are illiquid and with very low yields b. the Chinese stock market is trash and unreliable c. the Chinese property market is a dumpster fire (plus nearly inaccessible to foreigners). That's because the Chinese government doesn't really want the yuan to replace the petrodollar, as it would be actively against its own interest. So the UAE would have no incentive to keep yuans around, and Iran changes very little, Iran is not a meaningful financial player in global markets or even oil trading markets. Outside of physically blocking the strait, their oil exports are basically worthless. What is potentially more concerning for the US is Gulf allies re-evaluating US military presence in the region, although I'd wager they're not too happy with having Iran unleashed next door.
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Crowley-Barns 11 hr ago +65
I’m gonna put this in a frame for my “Decline and Collapse of the American Empire” museum which I’m opening in 2038. (You’ll be compensated with 100 yuan as an ironic honorarium.)
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slicheliche 11 hr ago +2
Look, people have been talking about the yuan replacing the dollar since at least the 1990s. It's one of those things always 5 years in the future. Maybe this time you'll be right who knows. What is true however is that the Chinese government actively works against that.
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ZeToni 10 hr ago +13
It is absolutely not in the interest of the CCP to increase the value of the Yuan, but it is in their interest to devalue the USD. Not in the economics perspective, because they would lose a shit ton of money, but in the Geopolitics and Grand Stategic objectives. Look, if the US is broke, the US will be defanged. And when there is a void in power, someone else can step up to it. If that means China loses a bunch on US Treasury Bonds, recovers a part of it on the value of its own currency and isolates and weakens the US, I believe that the CCP is willing to pay that price.
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MrYumTum 10 hr ago +11
This will be 5 years like no other, the US is burning ties like never before.
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I_Push_Buttonz 9 hr ago +4
That still won't see the yuan replace the dollar. For a currency to serve as a global reserve and be used to settle international transactions, the world needs to actually be able to get their hands on it. The world currently has an ample supply of dollars through the US' massive trade deficits, trillions of dollars are constantly flowing out of the US to the rest of the world while their manufactured goods are flowing back in. Where will the yuan come from in this hypothetical yuan supplanting the dollar scenario? China runs massive trade surpluses with virtually everyone and has some of the most draconian capital controls of any country on the planet to prevent capital flight; there is hardly any yuan ever leaving China.
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Big_Department4209 10 hr ago +8
The 1990s? How exactly? Because in the 1990s China's economy was nowhere near the size for any talks about the yuan replacing the dollar to be even entertained in serious financial discussions. China's rise to a formidable economy is, at the earliest, in the 2000s, and only started to shape into a rival economy to the US in absolute figures by the mid-2010s. Nonetheless the chatter about the yuan replacing the dollar at the moment will always find the same obstacle: the yuan is too controlled, its value is controlled to keep China as a major exporting country, capital controls exist to control the flow of yuan in/out of China, while those problems exist there's no chance for the yuan to truly replace the dollar. The US should get extremely worried when the Chinese government signals that will let the yuan free-float, that they will loosen capital controls, etc., I imagine that time will come when China has developed into an advanced economy and won't need to focus majorly on exports to sustain itself, if those conditions came to be and the grip on the yuan by the Chinese government is loosen then the US will definitely have a bad bad time.
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Crowley-Barns 9 hr ago +4
The Euro will be more influential I expect, at least over the next twenty years. I doubt a single currency from a single country will ever again have the influence that the USD had. It was more a comment on the hubris and arrogance of the US and the end of American exceptionalism.
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pargofan 9 hr ago +1
I think UAE has a lot to lose. I'd frame this as UAE's version of Trump's unhinged nuclear weapon threat that's more of a bluff. It would take a long time before they'd consdier this.
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knuppi 9 hr ago +3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroyuan > One of the reasons the petroyuan was created was that Russia, Venezuela and Iran may be able to avoid the United States' sanctions, so nations such as Saudi Arabia, one of the main oil producers and extractors could avoid dollar hegemony and U.S. pressure.
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slicheliche 9 hr ago +2
This doesn't make sense. Why would Russia or Iran avoiding US sanctions be in any way linked to Saudi Arabia avoiding dollar hegemony? If anything they would want less competitors in the oil market. Why would Saudi Arabia concern itself with which currency does Iran trade its own oil with?
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snehkysnehk213 11 hr ago +21
It's okay, he has the concept of a plan.
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urbanmark 11 hr ago +11
The plan is to crash the dollar and pay off the national debt with the equivalent of two loaves of bread. Most if you will lose your jobs and around half will starve. Thank you for your sacrifice. MAGA will succeed. It will just take a few hundred years and a few hundred million deaths. It’s a sacrifice Trump is willing to make, along with his followers. Nobody explained that you watched the world burn from inside the fire.
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poopantiess 11 hr ago +4
Infrastructure week incoming
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Wander21 11 hr ago +5
Putin probably is the one who tells orange pedo to do it because he wants high oil price
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The_Grungeican 10 hr ago +9
Putin wants to destabilize the US. he's doing great at it.
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Kooolxxx 11 hr ago +7
One reason Trump moved in without any plans because Iran started selling oil in Yuan and Iran showed interest in joining BRICS nations.
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SP1570 11 hr ago +26
There's no justification for doing anything without any plans...
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imdefinitelywong 11 hr ago +12
Plans? We ain't got no plans. We don't need no plans. I don't have to show you any stinkin' plans!
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The_Grungeican 10 hr ago +2
>And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got ~~heroin~~ **dementia**?
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Xylus1985 11 hr ago +16
Trump moved in with a great plan. Have you seen how he manipulated the markets? You can’t have a better plan than that!
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rhnltnsy16 10 hr ago +4
Iran is already BRICS member.
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MaximumPepper123 10 hr ago +3
Trump moved in without any plans because he thought it would be as easy as the Venezuela operation.
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WhatYouThinkIThink 9 hr ago +2
Iran is under financial and trade sanctions so sells most of its oil to China. The fact that China wanted to pay in yuan is obvious. Why pay in another currency that is difficult to trade? Iran uses yuan to buy Chinese goods because they can't buy from other nations. "Joining" BRICS was and is irrelevant.
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Kooolxxx 9 hr ago +2
China is not afraid of US Sanctions. After Iran, African countries also showed interest in Joining BRICS. With this those countries who are currently buying oil using US Dollars, would now buy oil via China.
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Lokon19 10 hr ago +2
Iranian oil doesn’t really matter as it really only goes to China and is now under blockade. And now that they can’t export any oil their economy is at real risk of collapse in the game of chicken.
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MelangeBot 10 hr ago +2
>Trump kicked the hornets nest into our yard with no plan, no ideas and no repercussions for him. 1) More oil money for Putin, this makes the Russian regime happy 2) More money for Trump's crony insider trading friends, this makes Trumps regime happy. 3) Israel taking vengeance on Iran and expands it's borders, this makes Bibi's regime happy. 4) Dollars gets weakened, this makes the project 2025 cristofacsists and the silicon tech bro facists happy. Meanwhile 349 million Americans suffer and so does the entire world on the higher oil prices, but you know that's what Americans voted for. Suffering for them and the world.
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WeakBlueberry5071 11 hr ago +482
Trump's second term was his revenge against Americans because they didn't give him 2 consecutive terms like Obama could 😂 He's out to hurt America, the only people getting rich during his term are him and his family, and his cronies. Name a single average American that prospered under his 2nd term and bring receipts.
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Inevitable_Butthole 10 hr ago +94
Inflation would've been way down without all this war and tariff BS. Rates would've been cut. Instead inflation is still way too high. So average americans have less money in their pockets because of him.
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No-Spoilers 10 hr ago +32
Inflation would be lower than pre covid without tariffs, instead it's skyrocketing. That's not accounting for the war at all. This is just fuel for the fire.
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Filthyquak 10 hr ago +3
My eyesight is very good. You can't fool me little kitty!
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GriffinFlash 10 hr ago +39
Cool cool... Then why do the rest of us Non-Americans also have to suffer for this? High prices, tariffs, threats of annexation, war, etc?
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PlanktonInitial7945 10 hr ago +28
Because we live in a highly globalized and interconnected world, and because we chose time and time again in the past to rely on the US for things, and because f*** us, that's why.
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DogDogDogDogog 8 hr ago +1
We made the mistake of trusting the US. That is on us, the French tried to warn us.
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jaytix1 8 hr ago +1
Sometimes I wonder why outsiders are so interested in America, and then I remember that America is as interested in *them*.
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EquivalentSpot8292 9 hr ago +6
I’ve heard people who scam maga with ai are doing really well right now. Apparently the scam only works on them, for some reason
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lemuever17 10 hr ago +4
Trump is so obsessed with Obama and Biden that I think he may actually be in 💕 with them.
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HellBlazer_NQ 9 hr ago +2
Shut up dude! ThE dOw Is At FiFtY tHoUsAnD!
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Evest89 11 hr ago +215
This is obviously Obamas and Bidens fault. Damn you democrats /s 😡
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Broad-Lobster7470 11 hr ago +33
Lol guaranteed they are screaming that over on fox.
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Fitz911 11 hr ago +11
They would stop the moment their viewers activated their brain. They won't stop.
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Sovereign2142 10 hr ago +13
"Look, obviously, the military action in Iran didn't achieve what we wanted, but President Trump was trying to free our so-called allies in Europe and the Middle East from the straitjacket that Iran placed around them. A straitjacket that Europeans and others simply found way too comfortable. I don't like how the situation played out, but I don't fault President Trump for his ambition; a quality we used to praise in this country!" \- Republican Presidential Candidate Speaking for 45-55% of the Electorate in 2028
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Duchess430 11 hr ago +309
So this is basically the UAE saying, hey, we don't really want to be your ally anymore if you're gonna keep doing this shit. That's really the only reason the US invests heavily in the Middle East is the petrol dollar. This is them just saying, look, we have options.
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dumbo9 11 hr ago +66
I don't know about that. The UAE seemed to have been positioning itself firmly in the US/Israel camp for quite a while. And it was the UAE that allegedly launched an attack on Iran after the ceasefire was in place, and it was alledged that the UAE allowed it's territory to be used as the launchpad for HIMARS strikes. So I get the feeling this is the UAE trying to force the US into taking military action, rather than any actual intent to abandon the petrodollar.
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LeanTangerine001 9 hr ago +23
They likely don’t want Iran to stay in control of the Strait. If Iranian control over the Strait normalizes then it gives Iran incredible leverage over the UAE and other gulf nations that used the strait to transport oil and natural gas.
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Lopsided-Affect-9649 11 hr ago +32
Which is a bit late because the US is in this war to make money from high oil prices due to them being the worlds biggest oil and gas supplier, helped in no small amount by their recent takeover of Venezuelan oil. Leopards appear to be eating your face UAE (and other middle eastern petrostates that supported the war).
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PM_ME_BEEF_CURTAINS 10 hr ago +23
It's a little more complicated than just "oil high, make money" There are 2 oil prices: oil futures (the commodity price you see everywhere), and dated price (the actual cost, today, of a barrel of oil) This whole scheme has made these prices diverge, and someone is currently holding the bag for delivering millions of barrels at $100, but the dated price is around $140, meaning a $40 loss per barrel. Expect some serious weirdness in the coming weeks as they try to dump the futures positions without shaking the stock market too much.
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Purple_oyster 11 hr ago +2
The USA is a net importer of oil
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Lopsided-Affect-9649 11 hr ago +21
Yes, and yet they are still one of the worlds largest exporters: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_oil\_exports](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_exports) Adding Venezuelan oil and the constrained supply of Saudi oil likely puts them at the top.
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AsinineAntimony312 11 hr ago +8
That is instantly verifiably the opposite of the truth. Especially considering it’s total petroleum products.
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Purple_oyster 11 hr ago +21
I used to believe the propaganda that this was beneficial for the USA. I then did some research. The USA imports 2.2M barrels per day more than it exports . Yeah they refine lots of oil and sell petroleum products but they have to pay for the increased prices
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PM_ME_BEEF_CURTAINS 10 hr ago +10
> The USA imports 2.2M barrels per day more than it exports Not only that, but US oil is no good for most of the applications that the US wants oil for The overall net figure is misleading. The USA _needs_ those other oil imports to keep teh refineries going. The USA also needs the petro-chemicals coming out of the middle east for fertiliser and plastics. Expect **massive** food shortages in November onwards due to US farming practices of mega-fields of corn and soya that require immense amounts of fertiliser.
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tb30k 11 hr ago +9
This. But their infrastructure is destroyed, money is not flowing and they are sitting ducks if Trump does escalate
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ResponsibleClock9289 11 hr ago +7
That’s not at all what they’re saying. They’re pressuring the White House to move along emergency aid to affected middle eastern countries. They WANT dollars and have been privately pressing the administration to continue the war No clue where on earth you got your interpretation from
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Duchess430 11 hr ago +3
What? Are you saying they want free money from the states? The ridiculously rich Gulf nations That invested billions, not trillions, of dollars turning their Cities into international hubs for business and tourism.....
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ResponsibleClock9289 11 hr ago +7
Not necessarily free money. There was a NYT article a few days ago that the Emirates wanted aid due to damaged infrastructure and their windfall dollar stockpile being depleted https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/business/economy/us-uae-financial-support.html If this article OP posted is claiming they need dollar liquidity then it’s possible that the US offers currency swaps which is basically just swapping dollars for dirhims. UAE’s currency is pegged to the dollar anyway
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milkonyourmustache 9 hr ago +2
Well, it's the UAE letting the US know the limit of what they're willing to tolerate as part of their arrangement. An ally is only that for as long as the benefits outweigh the costs.
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binzoma 10 hr ago +2
I mean why would the gulf states be allies with the US? they were allies of the US because the US offered protection from Iran, their main enemy (lol), and protected trade of their critical assets, and a safe currency to build an economy on allying with the US served them in the passed, but clearly its not offering what it was anymore
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JoJo_Embiid 10 hr ago +19
i think people here misunderstand what UAE is saying. basically he is saying "because of the wars and the tariff things there is not enough USD floating around so our customers may need to pay with another currency" this is a direct result of both the tariff and the war. when the whole tariff thing started people have warned him that USD is the most important exports of the US,
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whwt 11 hr ago +81
UAE is making noise about using Yuan, closing US military bases on its territory and making defense agreements and/or deals with Ukraine. They are making a lot of noise that the US really needs to be listening to. I think they are just the first to say anything.
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BluePizzaPill 10 hr ago +31
> I think they are just the first to say anything. End of March Saudi Arabia was rethinking its US investment and reliance after Trump said publicly that he liked how much MBS was kissing his ass.
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highfrequency 9 hr ago +9
He said that? Oof.
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luisanra 10 hr ago +23
Trump and all the republicans that refuse to vote him out will ruin this country to the ground. We won’t be a world power at the end of his term.
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rollin340 9 hr ago +1
Part of the whole setup was that the US would defend them when need be. However, they've become the reason that they're getting bombed. Hardly surprising when they question if the agreement's value has waned.
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MastodonParking9080 11 hr ago +40
So making yuan appreciate and their exports uncompetitive in a time where they are relying on exports to offset involution?
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hideintheshrub 11 hr ago +31
Why would yuan appreciate? RMB is not a clean float currency and currency determination is an evolving field of study. Pure fiat systems were only built in our generation so this is all a huge ongoing experiment. If you ask me, Id rather hold a currency from a country that is fiscally responsible, politically stable and has significant foreign reserves (Singapore, Swiss) RMB is currently 2, 3 depending on which side of the world you are in, of those things.
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MastodonParking9080 9 hr ago +8
If the PBOC wants to spend billions defending a peg that just means more US treasuries being bought (because everyone else also has to defend their pegs) which just brings you back to square one regarding dollar dominance. Switzerland and Singapore are far too small to absorb/consume the world's surpluses.
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fufa_fafu 11 hr ago +12
There are 2 times more yuans in circulation than there are US dollars. The ecosystem can soak up oil money just fine.
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Ocelitus 10 hr ago +5
And six yuans don't equal a dollar, so you would need to triple what is "in circulation" for your statement to be relevant.
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fufa_fafu 10 hr ago +4
How is this in any way relevant to what I said? As demand for yuan rises, so does its value, vice versa with the dollar. Still a long way to go from hampering Chinese exports though.
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bandwagonguy83 11 hr ago +4
Two words: national debt.
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Pryoticus 10 hr ago +12
This is why civics and economics education is important. We ignorant Americans ruin everything.
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d4dog 10 hr ago +11
Bankrupted a c*****.  Says it all.
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Fitz911 11 hr ago +7
"Why is everybody turning away from us?"
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commentman10 11 hr ago +17
This is the start of end of the dollar. Thanks to Trump but lets blame the lefties of the world. As he apparently never done anything wrong
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VISUALBEAUTYPLZ 10 hr ago +5
What happened in the 1970s
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Kooolxxx 10 hr ago +15
After the U.S. ended the gold standard in 1971, the government sought to maintain the dollar's global dominance. In 1974, the U.S. entered into a deal with Saudi Arabia, establishing the Joint Commission on Economic Cooperation to provide technical assistance in exchange for pricing oil in dollars. OPEC nations accumulated massive surpluses of USD, which they re-invested into US Treasuries and western banks, creating a "virtuous loop" of demand for the currency. The petrodollar system, established in the 1970s, anchors U.S. financial dominance by pegging global oil sales to the US dollar. Born from agreements with Saudi Arabia, it forced nations to accumulate dollars, which were "recycled" into US Treasuries, lowering American borrowing costs. Essentially, this made countries have to buy US dollars with their own currency to get oil.
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tip871 9 hr ago +3
The war was a mistake from the very beginning. Iran has allies who are nuclear powers. If they deem it necessary, Iran will get a nuclear bomb. The probability is now higher than before the war.
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Twoscales22 9 hr ago +3
And trump will be remembered as the nail that drove the USD away from being the world’s oil dollar. The top priority of his handlers…
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Soopah_Fly 9 hr ago +1
Threatening the American petrodollar. Now, we're gonna see if Americans are going to do something about 'ole Donny now that they're after their oil money.
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filipv 9 hr ago +1
This has got to be one of the most brutal self-ownages in recorded history.
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hackenclaw 8 hr ago +1
Sell it in Yuan and Euro. Next thing you know is the European leaders will be onboard of against Trump.
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PilotKnob 8 hr ago +1
You know what the world hates? Unpredictability. It's totally reasonable that countries should be looking for long-term solutions to the chaos the Orange Menace and his Band Of Merry Stooges is dishing out right now.
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agentfelix 8 hr ago +1
And Papa Putin just continues to sip his tea because this is all working too well.
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dextercho83 9 hr ago +6
UAE is telling the US that they need to start listening to them or else there will be severe repercussions. Sad that they have to do it in such a public way because shitstain is not listening. Hopefully his cronies will finally listen
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rolyoh 9 hr ago +4
Without the Petrodollar, the US Economy will tank. No pun intended.
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dug99 9 hr ago +2
... and DJ Lord Pantsdump and his troupe of incompetent clowns just walked right into the trap.
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unknown-one 9 hr ago +2
Dew it!
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deaglebingo 9 hr ago +2
do. it.
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BoringRedHorse 9 hr ago +2
Knowing Trump's diplomatic finesse, his response will be probably to threaten to destroy their entire civilization. Oh but wait, what about his private business deals and bribe money? Oh nooooo!
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Important-Emu-6691 9 hr ago +1
Being an US ally is now a complete liability with zero upside for gulf states it’s wild
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princemousey1 11 hr ago +5
“Balama reportedly told American officials that if the UAE runs short of dollars, Abu Dhabi may have little choice except using Chinese yuan or other currencies.” Which part of this means that they will sell oil in USD?
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RainbowStreetfood 10 hr ago +3
I think this needs to happen or we all become Americas economic hostage.
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GriffinFlash 10 hr ago +3
Is America Great yet? /s
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Wise-Ad-1998 10 hr ago +2
This has been the plan all along …. China ready for a power shift
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DateMasamusubi 11 hr ago +6
The US Petrodollar stopped being a thing when shale oil and fracking came into vogue 10-15 years ago. The US doesn't import as much oil from the Middle East as it used to historically (currently at 1/4 average from 2 decades ago). Yuan is floated about but it isn't a strong contender for Gulf oil states. Why? Because China lacks property rights that Western nations (Dollar/Euro) possess. They can sell their oil and transact in Yuan but they want Dollar/Euro holdings and in turn, investments and properties which are protected by laws and legal tradition. But that is the crux of the problem, if the US isn't buying oil, GCC ability to get Dollars is reduced. The GCC states have various levels of investments and projects to earn hard currency, Kuwait not as much (they don't have a major airline like Qatar/Emirates as an example). But the cash infusion from oil trade is immediate and massive so they want the US to import more energy.
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slicheliche 11 hr ago +15
Petrodollar isn't a thing because of the US importing oil from the Gulf. It's a thing because of Gulf countries trading in USD with other countries and investing the revenue in the US market.
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EndOfDecadence 11 hr ago +14
People always speak about the petrodollar like it needs to be fully replaced with another currency. With the world order becoming a multipolar one its just as likely the same will happen with the currency. Not a single reserve currency, but multiple. As long as their isn't a prosperous and benign hegemon, there will not be another version of the petrodollar.
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DateMasamusubi 11 hr ago +2
Correct. The US dominated the oil trade with the Middle East because of its enormous energy needs which greatly outpaced domestic production starting in the 1960's. The Middle East was awash in Dollars and it flowed back to Washington. Great for stability, bad for being exposed to US monetary policy. When fracking came unto the scene and US energy production ramped up, the Gulf States were already busy diversifying their economies (also in part of oil demand falling/reserves running out). Rather than petrodollar trade, the Middle East shifted to defence + investments to keep the US in the region hence why you see GCC money in everything from AI to video games. Other currencies will be used but it will increase costs and we won't see the stability that we had in decades prior. Dollars will still be in high demand due to its unique position and benefits. Euro can be a contender but it has shortcomings and European policymakers seem reluctant to embrace trade deficits, fragmentation in policymaking, etc. Yuan has its cons as I stated above + China is busy trying to diversify away from oil so GCC will have less Yuan as years go by. So we will see a weighted basket most likely, Dollar dominant but Euros and Yuan in there.
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EndOfDecadence 11 hr ago +2
The Petrodollar exists because the middle easts does oil business in dollars. The change in demand from the US does play a role, but a very minor one.
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SunChungShan 11 hr ago +6
Even Taiwan is seeking for closer ties with China with their KMT chairwoman paying a visit to Xi. Crazy times when Taiwan inches closer to its arch-nemesis away from its closest ally
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Kooolxxx 11 hr ago +18
I believe that was the right thing to do, since Trump ask Taiwan for $ 100 Billion as protection money.
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SunChungShan 11 hr ago +18
Trump wants Taiwan to give a lot of its semiconductor production to the US which would weaken Taiwan. Taiwan producing 90% of the world's most advanced chips acts as a shield from China. Trump wants to take it away while not giving any security guarantees.
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Kooolxxx 11 hr ago +17
Recently Trump has shown over and over that he can not be trusted.
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Impandamaster 11 hr ago +6
Never have I prayed for America’s downfall so much. Trump is doing some disgusting shit to Taiwan and our current leaders are just taking it in the ass and in the long term only Taiwanese citizens will suffer.
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Impandamaster 11 hr ago +5
It’s only kmt leader tho. It won’t really affect much as long as dpp holds the reign for two more years. Altho many Taiwanese are sick and tired of being buttfucked by trump on every deal and are leaning more and more towards a peaceful relationship with China.
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ResponsibleClock9289 11 hr ago +10
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963 No they’re not. Polling for reunification is at a record low
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i_am_voldemort 11 hr ago +4
ART OF THE DEAL, FOLKS
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tinesone 10 hr ago +2
I just don't see what Trump wanted to achieve with this war. Best guess is Regime change to make Iran a loyalist state. Ive seen people say that it's all because Isreal wanted to attack Iran, which is probably closest to the truth.
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Not_Sure__Camacho 9 hr ago +2
That's fine, let it all burn down.  The US deserves everything that its getting for electing the POS that they did.  Our allies have every right to turn their backs on us.  
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beginner75 9 hr ago +1
Why does Listnook allow nonsense articles?
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AthleteHistorical490 8 hr ago +1
Many Americans have taken our world economic dominance of the dollar for granted. We’re in for a rude awakening.
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Far_King_Penguin 11 hr ago +1
I see things like "doom of the petrodollar" etc etc a lot I dont know why it's important oil is bought in dollars and Googling just confused me more Anyone able to give me a cheeky ELI5? Or maybe ELI15 coz economics can be confusing.
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m0rogfar 10 hr ago +11
Essentially, if oil can only be bought in dollars, third-party countries have to buy dollars with their own currency to get oil. Whenever someone buys a currency, the value of that currency goes up, and whenever someone sells a currency, the value of that currency goes down. For small transactions, this amount is infinitesimal, but if enough large transactions occur, this has a real effect, which means that the dollar's value is raised by these trades. This has two main effects: - One, because countries trade their own currencies for the dollar, some level of inflation is effectively transferred from the US to other countries. - Two, because demand for the dollar is high, US bonds become more desirable, which allows the US government to lend more money at lower rates. The problem for the US is if it stops. For the former point, both theory and practical results when the British Pound lost a similar type of status that it used to have, all that exported inflation comes back. This means a massive cost-of-living increase in the US, which US citizens are generally ill-equipped to deal with, as US households assign a low percentage of income towards savings/buffer. For the latter point, if the US stops being able to run a deficit, has to service its existing debt at higher interest rates as it renews, and has to raise a serious surplus to pay down now-crippling debt, you're looking at something like a doubling of tax rates with no additional services offered, or a 50% increase in tax rates and simultaneous abolishment of long-running programs like Medicare. This, of course, compounds with a massive cost-of-living hike from the other point. It is not immediately obvious how the US can or will deal with this, as policymakers have deferred appropriate preparations for decades, and it has instead set itself up for maximum exposure and damage if current conditions collapse.
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RevolutionaryLog3631 9 hr ago +3
good. The end of US will be a benefit to the free world.
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WaffleHouseGladiator 10 hr ago +1
Is this winning?
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CassiusCreed 10 hr ago +1
Do it! Do it! Do it!
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Sharp-Tax-26827 10 hr ago +1
Trump wants this so he and his rich friends can buy up everything on “sale”
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