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News & Current Events Apr 2, 2026 at 8:41 AM

UK gathers more than 30 countries to plot ways of reopening the Strait of Hormuz

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UK gathers more than 40 countries to press Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz
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UK gathers more than 40 countries to press Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz
Britain has accused Iran of holding the global economy hostage as diplomats from over 40 countries discuss ways to press Tehran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

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Gentle_Snail Apr 2, 2026 +2748
>The U.S. is not among the countries attending Thursday’s meeting. Trump has said securing the waterway is not America’s job, and told U.S. allies to “go get your own oil.”
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MissingLink101 Apr 2, 2026 +2059
Ugh, he's such a c***... and that might be being too kind.
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Ducknucks Apr 2, 2026 +427
As the saying goes, he lacks both the warmth and depth. But that too is being far too kind.
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Happy_Little_Fish Apr 2, 2026 +82
if you compare him to a c*** he's a half-eaten ham sandwich from a tramp's tent. happy cake day.
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TYO_HXC Apr 2, 2026 +21
A **MOULDY** half-eaten ham sandwich from a tramp's tent, at that.
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Auctorion Apr 2, 2026 +19
Can we not do this to women? The man is a turd. Let’s build from there.
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xFlandersx Apr 2, 2026 +85
Yeah...sadly at this point that's an insult to every c*** on the planet. We need to invent a new word to describe that traitorous, murderous child rapist war criminal. I very much hope that being a "trump" is soon the word to describe the biggest piece of shit in the universe.
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-Ikosan- Apr 2, 2026 +30
Friendly reminder that in much of the Anglo-sphere trump already means fart. The jokes write themselves
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JyveAFK Apr 2, 2026 +19
I spend a lot of time explaining this to Americans. A LOT. Only last weekend, and sure enough, someone looked like I was joking "please, PLEASE look it up. English slang for Fart. see? yeah, well done America, President Fart was elected. Twice. Explains a bit, doesn't it?"
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MissingLink101 Apr 2, 2026 +7
It was like the South Park "Turd Sandwich v Giant D*****" episode come to life for us
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bemad4483 Apr 2, 2026 +8
Trunt?
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endbit Apr 2, 2026 +48
As an Australian we'd say shit-c***. And for any Australians reading this Pauline Hanson supports him too and thought we should support this war with Iran. If you back her your as good as the two orange turds are.
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LocalMammoth4450 Apr 2, 2026 +15
He falls into the dog c*** category for sure
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E_Kristalin Apr 2, 2026 +10
Poor dogs and cunts, getting compared to trump.
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bendalazzi Apr 2, 2026 +5
For PG audiences we'd also accept shit-bloke.
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Doughtnutz Apr 2, 2026 +145
Not his job to clear up the mess he made. Just like when he shits his pants. What a total c***.
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Contrabaz Apr 2, 2026 +61
Sure Don, we'll use a method you don't know about. Diplomacy.
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squirrelpickle Apr 2, 2026 +98
Well, I guess some countries are about to start converting some of their reserves from US Dollar to Chinese Yuan and get their own oil paying in that currency.
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ChartComprehensive59 Apr 2, 2026 +74
Or better yet, the Euro.
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Tessaaa58 Apr 2, 2026 +34
Afaik Iran has said they will only take the Yuan.
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Fizeau57_24 Apr 2, 2026 +8
And isn't the Yuan going to get the opposite of c****, so what will happen when the goods that are produced in the China factories start to become increasingly less than c**** ?
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DeviIstar Apr 2, 2026 +12
We stop buying them and then India steps up
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AprilsMostAmazing Apr 2, 2026 +7
I think there might be a split between a couple of different countries in Asia and Africa, that way one country does not gain dominance like China did
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SirFlopper Apr 2, 2026 +4
China will manipulate their currency to keep their exports attractive
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HitByFjaka Apr 2, 2026 +6
That train has already left the station… consequences for US are absolutely chatastropic … after multiple casinos Trump managed to destroy yet another money making machine…
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Ok-Way7122 Apr 2, 2026 +27
he is such a massive c*** - I, like most of the planet knew America was always one rogue emperor-president away from running America like a dictatorship - ultimate power restricted by conventions was always going to lead to this, we have this thing called history to look at... I just didn't think it would happen in my life time because America is such a "young" country... and yet here we are.
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Paah Apr 2, 2026 +7
> ultimate power restricted by conventions was always going to lead to this Let us not give him too much credit. He doesn't have "ultimate power" alone. All the republicans in the congress are doing a goob job of enabling him.
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ThatSamShow Apr 2, 2026 +31
The line "go get your own oil" really boils my piss. We were getting it fine before Trump decided to divert attention away from the Epstein files once again. He does whatever he wants, bombs the hell out of a country, and then leaves the mess for the rest of us to clean up. Story of his life.
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mrtuna Apr 2, 2026 +49
is Iran attending this meeting? They're kind of the most important entity in these discussions.
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Gentle_Snail Apr 2, 2026 +113
The meeting is essentially nations planning how to pressure both America, Israel and Iran to end the war / find a peaceful solution, so none of the three were explicitly invited. 
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Independent_Can2155 Apr 2, 2026 +42
US need to leave the Middle East, pretty simple
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yolkyal Apr 2, 2026 +36
Think Iran have have said they will continue to block it even if the US leaves. They have leverage now so stand to get something out of it.
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spinbutton Apr 2, 2026 +21
We handed them that.
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Oxbix Apr 2, 2026 +27
The US could have stopped Iranian oil tankers, but instead they lifted sanctions on a country with which it is currently at war and tolerate a toll booth in the Strait. Iran is exporting more oil than before the war sustaining their failing economy. This must be the dumbest strategy I've ever seen. Paired with the most capable military I've ever seen. It's ridiculous.
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LoneSnark Apr 2, 2026 +19
People keep calling them Iranian tankers because they were carrying Iranian oil. But many of them were flagged in China. So they were Chinese tankers. Are you seriously suggesting the US seize Chinese ships?
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fang_xianfu Apr 2, 2026 +27
I bet he'll be butthurt about not being invited despite literally telling them to do this.
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Own_Ad6901 Apr 2, 2026 +9
Guaranteed
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-FeistyRabbitSauce- Apr 2, 2026 +44
America should be sanctioned by every country on Earth.
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JohnHazardWandering Apr 2, 2026 +20
> The U.S. is not among the countries attending Thursday’s meeting The grownups are talking. 
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spinbutton Apr 2, 2026 +6
Honestly the US is so loony these days we're just getting in everyone's way. Better we aren't there
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natte-krant Apr 2, 2026 +4
*throws in your neighbor’s window* yeah that’s unfortunate, but you have to pay for it and fix it because I don’t live here
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Black_Moons Apr 2, 2026 +4
Oh good, there is a chance some progress will be made without the rabid elephant in the room.
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ash_ninetyone Apr 2, 2026 +1179
> The U.S. is not among the countries attending Thursday’s meeting. Trump has said securing the waterway is not America’s job, and told U.S. allies to “go get your own oil.” Can't wait for Trump's next release being "Our so-called allies did not invite the US to negotiations after all we've done for them. Sad. Hormuz cannot reopen without US. Thank you for your attention to this matter"
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NovicePro_ Apr 2, 2026 +220
I hate that you might actually be spot on
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FrenchFryNinja Apr 2, 2026 +5
No. He would not properly hyphenate “so-called,” and would put it in all caps as, “SO CALLED,” and maybe put allies in quotes. 
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CaptainCanuck93 Apr 2, 2026 +52
Maybe the plan is to deliver Trump to Iran hog-tied?
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thatsacrackeryouknow Apr 2, 2026 +13
Hopefully the plan is to conduct a night time raid on the white house, capture Trump and bring to the International Criminal court.
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willstr1 Apr 2, 2026 +7
The US has already claimed that is a valid way to deal with a criminal world leader
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HumbleSousVideGeek Apr 2, 2026 +17
In that case I pop the Champagne
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BritishAnimator Apr 2, 2026 +3
A free 25 million for the bounty isn't it?
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McGondy Apr 2, 2026 +2
Might be the first time an apple touched those lips.
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theonedownupstairs Apr 2, 2026 +13
"PRESIDENT DJT" You know, just in case it's not obvious that the post from his account with his name on it is from him.
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Ehhitiswhatitis Apr 2, 2026 +1918
Why is the word plot used instead of a solution. Seems a bit dramatic
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Jacques-de-lad Apr 2, 2026 +538
Plot? Scheme perhaps? Get the lads together for a cabal to formulate some stratagems
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Sausagedogknows Apr 2, 2026 +77
Would there be any room for conspiring? I like a good conspiracy, we could conspire while we plot and scheme.
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Jacques-de-lad Apr 2, 2026 +27
We can conspire but we’ll also have to connive, no conspiring until you finish your conniving
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FudgeIgor Apr 2, 2026 +3
You can't have any conniving! How you can you have any conniving if you don't plan your treachery?
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Sid_Corvus Apr 2, 2026 +9
Scheme is actually used in a neutral way in the UK. Like if the government had a plan to reduce taxes on carrots it would be normal to refer to it as a government carrot scheme.
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ReggieCorneus Apr 2, 2026 +2
I might need to use bigger glasses.
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PansarPucko Apr 2, 2026 +2
Do we get to carry daggers and wear dark cloaks too?
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Jacques-de-lad Apr 2, 2026 +2
Okay, as a treat only this once, because we’ve been a very good scheming, plotting, conniving cabal this year
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ccoastie Apr 2, 2026 +6
Get the lads together for a piss up and chat
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refcon Apr 2, 2026 +90
Plotting can also refer to putting a route together as part of navigation. Normally 'plotting a course' would mean setting down where you want to go on a map before setting out. So it's a pun, what fun.
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absat41 Apr 2, 2026 +8
The Iranians should put loudspeakers there blurting out “Mind the Gap” as you pass
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Wartz Apr 2, 2026 +35
It’s a sea navigational term. The UK  has a grand legacy as a high seas nation. 
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Nimos Apr 2, 2026 +2
didn't even think about the UK specifically just that this is literally about ships is enough to make that little word play
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ZanzibarGuy Apr 2, 2026 +28
If Guy Fawkes had only gone with *"the Gunpowder Solution"* instead of *Plot* the world would be so different now.
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smooth-as-mud Apr 2, 2026 +19
Whereas if Hitler had called it The Final Plot he wouldn’t have gotten nearly as far as he did
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OldLondon Apr 2, 2026 +4
Final Excursion 
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Ok-Blackberry-3534 Apr 2, 2026 +5
Final Concepts of a Solution
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bored_jurong Apr 2, 2026 +3
Haha, he just needed better PR!
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DrogoOmega Apr 2, 2026 +102
Odd almost clickbait from AP? The first line is normal and journalistic, talking about how it is "in an effort to exert diplomatic and political pressure"
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BrianOfNazerath Apr 2, 2026 +8
I think because you "plot" a path. A way forward to a destination. Different to where you are now.
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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Apr 2, 2026 +6
Solution isn’t a verb, and headlines prefer short words (see also “row” and “slam”).
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Wooden_Permit3234 Apr 2, 2026 +2
> Solution isn’t a verb,  Tell that to these corporate consultants setting up solutioning meetings!
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urbanmark Apr 2, 2026 +11
Because it requires a map of various goals in order to achieve the objective.
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ABucin Apr 2, 2026 +4
“aight lads, time to plan a heist!”
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oli_ramsay Apr 2, 2026 +8
Because "UK gathers more than 30 countries to solution ways of reopening the Strait of Hormuz" makes no sense
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W31337 Apr 2, 2026 +22
Because it implies diplomacy not war
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Ehhitiswhatitis Apr 2, 2026 +16
How? Diplomacy doesn't start with a plot it starts with trying to figure out a solution. A plot usually refers to a nefarious action. It's rage bait
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bananagrabber83 Apr 2, 2026 +31
Not in navigational terms, you plot a course (through treacherous waters). It’s a perfectly apposite verb.
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owen__wilsons__nose Apr 2, 2026 +3
I guess they meant like brainstorm
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Revenant690 Apr 2, 2026 +2
Discuss. Unless it's a play on the nautical term to plot a course due to it being a waterway?
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TheColourOfHeartache Apr 2, 2026 +6
Perhaps because we're going to use the ol' Perfidious Albion?
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Interesting_Sock9359 Apr 2, 2026 +1353
Imagine if these countries worked out a free trade agreement for Iranian oil and excluded america
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Glove5751 Apr 2, 2026 +728
This is actually a possibility, and might happen. It's what Iran wants to do, as it gives them greater sovereignty. 
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ModBlocker3000 Apr 2, 2026 +410
Make it sold in euros and it could really have an interesting knock on effect I imagine ?
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IOinkThereforeIAm Apr 2, 2026 +257
I believe one of Iran's aims will definitely be that any of their oil sold will no longer be sold in dollars.
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IncidentalIncidence Apr 2, 2026 +51
Iran hasn't sold oil in dollars since 2008, partly because they are sanctioned to hell and back by the US.
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ferrix97 Apr 2, 2026 +5
I think they mean forcing gulf states that sell through the strait to sell in non USD currencies
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IOinkThereforeIAm Apr 3, 2026 +2
While I expect that to also be apart of their aims, I was only tangentially aware that they wouldn't really have traded in dollars... apparently I've a tendency to forget about BRICs and all that entails
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MacCollac Apr 2, 2026 +78
Already is yuan right?
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Kier_C Apr 2, 2026 +85
Its in Yuan, but I dont know if China would want currency strengthing caused by global demand for a petroyuan
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jellyhessman Apr 2, 2026 +11
China already has a petroyuan they use for local oil trades. Nor sure if they want it as a global reserve currency and they'd probably prefer a petroeuro.
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Kier_C Apr 2, 2026 +45
That would be a major blow to the US, I imagine something like that would be required by Iran. If the strait opens up the US no longer feels pain of prices continuing to rise, to the same degree anyway. So they will need another lever
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Divinicus2nd Apr 2, 2026 +16
That would be such an own goal by the US.
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Germfreecandy Apr 2, 2026 +23
I’m not really sure if they even want that. A stronger euro would further hurt their exports, which have already taken a massive hit due to the tariff turmoil. This is the same reason I don't even think China would want to trade oil exclusively in yuan. They rely pretty heavily on being a c**** manufacturer.
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Current-Code Apr 2, 2026 +22
The main issue in Europe is not export, it's debt.  A petroeuro would be both a holy grail for our government, and a very big incentive to not take on government overspending. Not sure if it would be good or bad, but it sure is tempting.
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IncidentalIncidence Apr 2, 2026 +16
>The maine issue in Europe is not export The biggest European economies are export economies. A euro that is too strong would be disastrous particularly for Germany, but also to an extent for France because it makes their exports more expensive and therefore less competitive.
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TableSignificant341 Apr 2, 2026 +3
What about sterling then?
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superdupergasat Apr 2, 2026 +13
The successor of petrodollar does not need to be another currency though. If this war somehow ends with Iran no longer being a pariah state completely ostracized out of global economy, they very well could sell their oil in their own currency. I dont think its likely in near future as a stable and integrated Iranian economy would take decades to accomplish, but its something to think about. The petrodollar worked because of the local unstability of Middle East could be offset with the US backing of the Gulf, there is no inherent need to tag a currency to oil that I can think of. Its a very archaic idea similar to gold backed currencies.
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p3t3y5 Apr 2, 2026 +7
It's not actually a bad idea. That could be the selling point to Iran. Here is the deal we will offer, we buy and sell oil using whatever currency with a formal review in 'x' years to use a currency of Iran's choice. Pretty sure Iran will sign anything that aids them and hurts America
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Current-Code Apr 2, 2026 +5
It's not only Iranian oil, it's all export from Hormuz.  I don't see saudian trade in Iranian currency
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Interesting_Sock9359 Apr 2, 2026 +62
Iran has seemed pretty lenient towards countries that aren't out to get them, so could be a thing
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Normal-Height-8577 Apr 2, 2026 +67
I'm imagining a collective letter: "Dear Iran, We've had our differences in the past...Well, the present as well really...But the important thing is that we all agree that America is being a d***, and we don't agree with their attack on you. Please may we have ~~our ball back~~ some oil again? Love, Everyone that isn't America"
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Kier_C Apr 2, 2026 +16
There was a global deal with Iran until Trump blew it up the last time he was in power. They could make something work
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Magjee Apr 2, 2026 +10
No nuclear program, open the strait In exchange, no sanctions and normal diplomatic relations   Seems a lot of countries just want this over
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dronten_bertil Apr 2, 2026 +28
If by that you mean leaving them completely alone with their massive human rights abuses without lifting a finger, or putting a stop to their spy mosques and other forms of aggression and not hosting regime critical Iranians or Jews on your soil, then sure. When Sweden convicted Hamid Noury to life in prison for abetting the execution of thousands of political prisoners in 1988 Iran kidnapped a Swedish diplomat to blackmail us (and succeeded) to get their butcher home safely. They try to commit assassinations on Swedish soil against regime critical dispora Iranians. They have a huge mosque in Stockholm that works like a spy center and radicalization factory. The Iranian regime are massive cunts to everyone who isn't their friend, and they are pretty cunty towards them as well at times. Anyone worth their title of human being wouldn't want to walk within a 100 miles of a friendship with that disgusting regime, it's one of the worst ones in the world. Unless you say thumbs up to their horrific nightmarish and brutal rule they are going to f*** with you in various ways.
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mrrizzler1 Apr 2, 2026 +22
do you want your oil back or not? shush about that right now
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Aware-Mulberry5516 Apr 2, 2026 +50
The US consumes about 20 million barrels of oil a day. It exports 8.51 million barrels. Of that, it imports less than 500,000 barrels comes from Hormuz. These are approx figures, so just use them to orient. What you seem to fail to understand is that, once the strait reopens, even if the US is excluded from moving oil through the strait, the global supply chain shock subsides. The US will feel the price of oil the same as everywhere else, perhaps a bit less due to padding from petroleum production, be it in recession or otherwise. But get this. Oil is globally priced. An EU free trade for Iranian oil agreement is not in Iran's interests and not liable to single out the US the way you think it will because free trade would increase global supply and lower price. If the EU does the legwork to reopen the strait, as the US wants to force, the US benefits regardless. Again, because oil is globally priced.
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magical_midget Apr 2, 2026 +44
Not everything has to be a zero sum game, the adults in the room just don’t want to deal with the mess from the toddler. If the toddler calms down then that may as well be an other win. Plus this will weaken the US globally, they have a lot of softpower that they are eroding, and that helps when they sanction and push politically, that’s the kind of thing that once lost you can’t rebuild quickly.
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kiss_my_what Apr 2, 2026 +15
They're not eroding their softpower, Trump is literally pissing all over it because he doesn't understand it. The lickspittle that is the US Congress, Senate and Supreme Court are equally complicit, they just haven't been able to overcome the stage-fright when they got too close to the urinal. So they sit and wait for someone else to go first.
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puntinoblue Apr 2, 2026 +5
What would happen if Iran’s position was that all trade through the strait would be paid for in a third currency. 
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Aware-Mulberry5516 Apr 2, 2026 +7
I mean, it would predominantly raise transaction costs in the short term. It would basically let oil move, but it would move slower and with more micro disruptions to supply. A lot of asia would have to renegotiate trade deals. Europe would too, and would likely pay a higher price. This would still affect the US just by virtue of shifting global prices upwards. Short term dollar demand would actually increase as people search for liquidity. Basically, it makes it more expensive for everyone (asia most, followed by europe, followed by US). Dollar erosion would occur further out on the horizon.
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Topsyye Apr 2, 2026 +4
Make a deal to exclude America from oil they don’t even buy in the first place? USA is a net exporter.
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nouskeys Apr 2, 2026 +8
They are diametrically opposed in pragmatic terms. It would just be friends of my enemies for as long as it lasts.
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IvorTheEngine Apr 2, 2026 +7
Oil from the Gulf doesn't go to America. It's mainly for India and China.
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EmmalNz Apr 2, 2026 +17
Please. We are all so sick of America affecting literally everyone with their ridiculous decisions. It’s not like it’s only Trump who’s been problematic for the whole world too. I’m sure the rest of the world could thrive together without America.
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Arendiko Apr 2, 2026 +2
Idk morally if I could stomach that
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Nwalm Apr 2, 2026 +5
For Europe and Asian countries former allies of the US it would be the best possible outcome from this mess. A free trade agreement with Iran using any currency other than the dollars. It would sign the beginning of the end for the petrodollars and it would be a massive blow on US economy. An important win for Iran so they may be willing.
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Griffolion Apr 2, 2026 +39
Trump to UK: "Go get your own oil!" UK: "Ok, just let me get some friends, first. You know what those are, right?"
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Rollover__Hazard Apr 2, 2026 +9
*The UK gets all of Europe together and a few others, all negotiate a deal with Iran and get the oil flowing again.* *Only US and Israel left with insanely high oil pricing* Trump: 🤬
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RaisingTheKnife Apr 2, 2026 +165
Wonder how many years it will take for the US to rebuild all the international relationships that trump has destroyed when his term is over.
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ballsmigue Apr 2, 2026 +168
Decades. And even then, it'll never be what it used to be because they'll know another trump could be elected again. Small edit: Theres a reason for the saying "empires only last 250 years"
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BT9154 Apr 2, 2026 +35
I'd argue US peaked, never going to reach that height ever. Too much globalization and corpos that will want a piece of the pie to have everyone united for a cause. Might need a major global crisis to restore even just half of the trust. It took 2 world worlds, the cold war, the rebuilding of broken but powerful enemies and a space race to get where US got. I don't think any of these are on the table.
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ch4ppi_revived Apr 2, 2026 +41
If there is a chance in my lifetime, Americans need to Nürenberg themselves after Trump and take accountability aggressively. People need to go to jail and be excluded from any further political position. Otherwise I agree with you. But to clear: The US has lost GIANT parts of their power and influence. Tell me one ally that is not considerably further away from them (Israel I guess), one economical area the US is doing better and in the end even their military looks less efficient as it ever has, considering they didn't adjust to drones at all it seems and they won't have the logistical support of EU.
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0neek Apr 2, 2026 +2
The idea that if this even ends that it could just happen again is wild to me. Imagine a story where a group of heroes defeats the great evil, destroys the ring or whatever, saves the world. And then they go 'Let's give the bad guys a chance to get back in power every four years, just to be fair'
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AliceLunar Apr 2, 2026 +24
It's never going back to the way it was at least.
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EnumeratedArray Apr 2, 2026 +16
At least a generation, if not longer. People will remember what the US is doing, and how the US stance can change dramatically every 4 years depending on who is in power. The US has now shown that it doesn't care for stability. That won't change for at least a generation until those who remember die out.
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Slow_ResolveMC07 Apr 2, 2026 +2
It's not only about who is in power at the time. More than half their voters \*wanted\* this or didn't care enough to stop it.
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P-l-Staker Apr 2, 2026 +4
>when his term is over. IF his term is over...
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boersc Apr 2, 2026 +142
Let's negotiate a solution where the 30 countries get free passes, while the cause of the problem gets a 300% tariff slapped on. Everybody happy. (Trump loves tariffs, right?)
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LoveZombie83 Apr 2, 2026 +9
We would have to first produce something/anything, for your governments to put tarrifs on those imports
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After_Relief_8760 Apr 2, 2026 +68
How about plan instead of plot?
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NaviersStoked Apr 2, 2026 +18
I have the solution, it's easy. Release the Epstein files to eliminate Israel's blackmail on Trump and his cabinet. 
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Elses_pels Apr 2, 2026 +10
This! The headline makes it look like a game or an evil move.
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STatters Apr 2, 2026 +178
I reckon they'd let them pay with Euros to cripple the US that way.
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FutureAd854 Apr 2, 2026 +70
I am 99% sure we will witness the US hegemony fall from the cliff. I guess they brought it on themselves and it's time that failing degraded society be replaced. Only thing is I don't want to start learning Chinese.
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nerodidntdoit Apr 2, 2026 +20
It wouldn't do more harm to the dollar them the US is already doing on its own.
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Lepurten Apr 2, 2026 +31
Oh it will. When the world's demand for US dollars collapses inflation will get insane, this is nothing.
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bloggerama90 Apr 2, 2026 +11
Agreed, they've literally gone to war for the petrodollar
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Notoriouslydishonest Apr 2, 2026 +20
Since the US invaded Iran on Feb 28th, the dollar has strengthened from 0.85 Euro to 0.87. Over the same time it's been flat against the Chinese RMB and up a bit against the Russian Ruble. The disconnect between the narrative on Listnook and what's actually going on in the markets is huge.
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scs4547 Apr 2, 2026 +25
Wouldn't you agree that the strengthening of our currency is due to the fact that the US dollar currently remains the world reserve currency? What they are suggesting is that using the euro to purchase oil would directly harm the US dollars status as the world reserve currency. Thus increasing the strength of the euro relative to the dollar. I believe they were assessing future impact in respect to the world oil dynamic changing and you are assessing past impact of the current system in place.
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quick_justice Apr 2, 2026 +7
Portfolios park in dollar cash and bonds because they still believe in US economy. In times of chaos most stable thing is in demand. God help us all if this trust erodes. Bad things will happen. And collapse of petrodollar would certainly be a leap towards it.
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Ravenblade727 Apr 2, 2026 +64
Someone actually has to do this, so fair enough. The Trump Admin are apparently just going to bleat and squeal about it so the adults need to take over. We'll just have to hope that Iran sees the value in humiliating the US by appearing reasonable.
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kimapesan Apr 2, 2026 +14
Pretty sure any chance to humiliate the US appeals to the Iranian regime.
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dvenator Apr 2, 2026 +14
This is a great opportunity for starmer to be the adult in the room and rally the rest of world whilst the US keeps alienating everyone.
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Obeetwokenobee Apr 2, 2026 +93
Trump/USA makes a big mess and then the rest of the world has to get together to clean it all up.
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Broad-Lobster7470 Apr 2, 2026 +39
Just like republicans in the country every time they get into power.
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ReggieCorneus Apr 2, 2026 +10
Just like right wingers have done all over the world, time and time again: f*** things up, let centrist, moderates and left to clean up some of the mess, then complain that it was fixed wrong and get in power again. Voters are INCREDIBLY stupid. Just... it is amazing how stupid they can be, the moment you think that this must be bottom they will find a way to dig thru bedrock just to find new depths to sink in.
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loxagos_snake Apr 2, 2026 +9
If we get to clean it up our way and exclude Trump? Might be worth the pain to take out the big wildcard.
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peidinho31 Apr 2, 2026 +9
Ah yes the meeting where the adults talk on how they will clean the shit that a toddler did. Fuckin pathetic
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jlangue Apr 2, 2026 +15
Starmer is handling as well as you could considering the circumstances.
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Dookie120 Apr 2, 2026 +4
My guess is that Iran will eventually open the strait but extract “security guarantees” from western especially nato powers. Reign in US and Israeli belligerence and it remains open. Maybe limit ships or bases from the US in the region.
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SpooderRocks Apr 2, 2026 +14
It's open apparently if you pay with yuan.
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PurpleAkisGhost Apr 2, 2026 +145
Ultimately, the U.S. and Israel have turned their backs on Europe. The UK and EU will likely consolidate their forces and collective will into removing American influence as best they can. America has always treated Europe with contempt since WWII, but they've never been so brazen about it. Now the mask is off, and the rest of the world needs to adjust to the hegemon being unstable. Europe will federalize. The UK will probably rejoin the EU in some capacity. Asia will fall almost entirely under China's sphere of influence, apart from Japan and Korea. Though Korea may be swayed simply due to America abandoning them to their own devices if (when) China attempts to take Taiwan. Australia and NZ will likely join with Canada, UK, and EU. Removing the US from the "5 eyes" system. They're not to be trusted anymore. Love living through geopolitical upheaval.
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ProbablyTheWurst Apr 2, 2026 +31
Ultimately global politics will regress into two spheres of influence led by Finland and Korea and the next great Hyperwar will begin
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Euclid_Interloper Apr 2, 2026 +14
I'm sorry, but the Lichtenstein - Andorra - San Marino axis is clearly the rising dominant power block.
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TradeNPlayz Apr 2, 2026 +67
Always love reading geopolitical predictions on Listnook.
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Diezelbub Apr 2, 2026 +21
Better for a laugh than anything in the comedy subs
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Efficient_Basis_2139 Apr 2, 2026 +48
While stuff isn't great just now, almost none of this has any likelihood of happening at all. Europe absolutely will not "federalise" (in whichever way you could possibly mean this). The UK will not rejoin the EU, South Korea will not fall under the influence of China.  Serious question: are you a bot?
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cocktails4 Apr 2, 2026 +18
For real. Every South Korean I know despises China with a fury that is hard to quantify. 
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bfhurricane Apr 2, 2026 +4
Not just South Koreans. Most Asian countries despise China.
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SporksInjected Apr 2, 2026 +4
The account is two months old so…
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IceColdWasabi Apr 2, 2026 +28
Just chiming in here to note that our GotD (Government of the Day) in NZ are a bunch of Trump-ballsack-gobbling sycophants who fully think the USA is amazing and supergood. Hopefully they'll be gone soon and rational heads can prevail, but this timeline seems staunchly opposed to good ideas.
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ChartComprehensive59 Apr 2, 2026 +12
That is a bit extreme. They continue to pander to the US and will likely not attempt to side with the EU, but show no love for Trump.
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wololo69wololo420 Apr 2, 2026 +3
They'll do whatever they can to get global shipping back in order. Military force is off the table, but I can see NZ sucking anyone's toes to get it done. Problem is that every country is different. NZ lacks meaningful storage, and we're at the end of the supply chain. We basically need boats moving here consistently otherwise we're fucked. Our strategy is pretty shit, but that was decided slowly over decades and can't be fixed now. If the EU and these other countries lack the power required to unlock the Strait, I can see them silently standing against the US, hoping to not get noticed, and for things to just work well enough to get by. Really looking forward to the earthquake we get in 2 months time. National resilience is basically non existent because we don't value these things. We're going to cut ourselves to survive, as is tradition.
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Euclid_Interloper Apr 2, 2026 +4
I doubt India would fall under China's sphere of influence. Eurasia will effectively have three poles, China, EU, and India. None will dominate.
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Roosted13 Apr 2, 2026 +2
They gotta figure out how to pay to protect themselves first. No more social programs ran off the back of off US defense.
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Volume_knob Apr 2, 2026 +11
Bye-bye petrol dollar. Great win for America "huge." Signed Kim Put Bhulla.
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TrickshotCandy Apr 2, 2026 +8
Typical "I fucked up, now you go fix" mentality.
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res0jyyt1 Apr 2, 2026 +7
Let's trade oil with Euros instead of Dollars
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5u114 Apr 2, 2026 +3
... that's the kind of talk that got Saddam strung up.
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grubbygromit Apr 2, 2026 +5
Couldn't they negotiate with Iran and pay for it with yuan Edit. Also telling israel to go f*** themselves might help.
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BadBacksFuryToad Apr 2, 2026 +5
Hopefully one of those countries is Iran. We should be talking to them directly and undermining USrael as much as possible.
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VtheMan93 Apr 2, 2026 +3
Have you thought, you know, not bombing the living shit out of that country?
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Krystall-g Apr 2, 2026 +14
I really liked the Chinese response, they said something like "why should other countries find a solution on a blocked situation that you and Israel provoked on your own ?" And to be honest I perfectly agree : clean up your own mess, we are like a LOT of people tired of those bs.
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Winter-Leading-7987 Apr 2, 2026 +6
Can't all us other counties make a deal with Iran ? We don't side with the USA. We didn't want this Epstein file distraction war. Just let all of us through except usa. 
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Rudeboy67 Apr 2, 2026 +6
The No North American Countries Club. Trump: Hey, you let Canada in. Starmer: It's the No North American CountrIES. We're allowed one.
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No-Way-9777 Apr 2, 2026 +6
What gets me, is why the British media is acting like every country but USA is wrong? Europe is trying to put out the fire started by Israel and USA by diplomatic ways, while orange idiot has nothing smart to say. USA is done, it's time to draw a line and separate from USA.
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Luka_16988 Apr 2, 2026 +3
Pretty straightforward. Reach out to China to mediate talks. Prepare to distance yourself from the current US administration. Have a discussion.
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MikeinMunster Apr 2, 2026 +3
Pay for the oil in another currency. The US will cave in very quick
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heavyseasoning Apr 2, 2026 +3
Iran has the chance to do the funniest thing right now and open the strait for every single country EXCEPT the US.
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vRiise Apr 2, 2026 +12
It will be money, isn't it?
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BigLittlePenguin_ Apr 2, 2026 +4
Would be funny if Iran allows all ships from countries which throw out US troops.
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Gone_4_Tea Apr 2, 2026 +8
Which is how alliances build consensus and cooperation. Not YeeHaww let's piss in the water and then get everyone to jump in.
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Azhz96 Apr 2, 2026 +8
Let's plot on how to get rid of The Pedophile of the United States instead, since Americans are literally the definition of cowards and refuse to protect their own country. Against literal Pedophiles, Rapists and Traitors, who are currently the ones running the country... "Home of the brave my ass".
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MrRakky Apr 2, 2026 +2
Let everyone but the agressors through. Problem solved
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BucsBroo Apr 2, 2026 +2
Trumps acting like our prices aren’t impacted lol what a dumb c*nt
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Greygnome62 Apr 2, 2026 +2
Has anyone tried asking politely?
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TheBlackDemon1996 Apr 2, 2026 +2
"Plot" is an odd choice of words... I can't think of many good scenarios that use the word "plot".
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Mr_Stealy_ Apr 2, 2026 +2
Right lads, someone put the kettle on the Americans have stuffed the global economy... again. 
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JeribZPG Apr 2, 2026 +2
So they do it, then Trump just goes in and fucks it again?
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Commercial-Sir5797 Apr 2, 2026 +2
1) Refuse to allow US to launch strikes or conduct Epic Fury related military operations from your country or via your airspace in exchange for safe passage?!?
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Bronzyroller Apr 2, 2026 +2
Sad that Americans soldiers are dying for nothing.
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DistanceToEmpty Apr 3, 2026 +2
Jesus Christ. Don't bail the US out of this. Don't do anything to legitimize this. The US shit this bed. Americans need to decide if they're going to lay in it or do their own damn laundry.
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sonic_couth Apr 2, 2026 +6
The UK should instead be coming up with a plan to remove Trump and Netanyahu from power
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Silver-Article9183 Apr 2, 2026 +3
Why should we do that? It's up to North Americans to remove their president if they do choose. USA has made it perfectly clear they want EU/UK to take care of their own affairs. Fine, we will. They can sort their own affairs out now as well.
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NoBackupCodes Apr 2, 2026 +4
Might just be cheaper to pay Iran £2m per tanker. How much will a flotilla (it's that the correct word?) Of warships escorting tankers cost every day? 😅
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