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News & Current Events May 11, 2026 at 6:05 PM

UK is granting Palantir ‘unlimited access’ to NHS patient data

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Palantir to be granted ‘unlimited access’ to NHS patient data
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Palantir to be granted ‘unlimited access’ to NHS patient data
The NHS is granting staff from companies including Palantir ‘unlimited access’ to identifiable patient data while working on its FDP.

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Ntroepy 2 days ago +8488
>”Critics warn expanded access could increase the risk of a major data breach” It seems like giving Palantir access to detailed user medical data is already a major data breach given their nefarious practices.
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barnfodder 1 day ago +2923
I don't remember consenting to this shit.
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woopwoopscuttle 1 day ago +773
https://youtube.com/shorts/iTaJuEx7V98?si=0bt0A7iaSyOo-Od7 Then it takes 2 minutes to do our part against this.
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Implausibilibuddy 1 day ago +646
It's even quicker if you skip the C&C style FMV and just go to www.writetothem.com and write to your MP (which is all the video says)
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Starter-for-Ten 1 day ago +286
I wrote to mine and Laura Trott is a dismissive dickhead. 
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DS4XX 1 day ago +179
The American experience
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Scrangle3D 1 day ago +10
My MP is Adnan Hussein, so I can streamline the experience of writing to him by merely pretending I did.
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bone_apple_Pete 1 day ago +51
If you are promoted for an email, use an alias. Google how to do it. Then you can see who your politicians sell your email address to. Joni Ernst sold my info.
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Trivvy 1 day ago +10
Thank you, sent. I can't believe they would go through with this, it's insanely irresponsible.
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DS4XX 1 day ago +48
Hope this works for you guys. These things did d*** for America.
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aeschenkarnos 1 day ago +38
Sue. British courts are historically far harder to stack with stooges than American ones.
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monsbkr 1 day ago +6
There was an opt out a couple years ago for this. Was on the news also I believe
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chaseinger 1 day ago +257
this already is a data breach. it's giving highly detailed and sensitive data to a private company we know is up to no good. quo vadis, uk.
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DesertTrailsFox 1 day ago +150
It will be shared with the US government.
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Alissinarr 1 day ago +80
And other *SECRET* information services from foreign actors. Doesn't GDPR protect from this shit?
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DeckardReplicant_ 1 day ago +46
It’s for EU only no ?
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ragequitteroffureh 1 day ago +15
If it's the UK government who's happily giving a hostile foreign nation our private medical information, then it's not really clear what that GDPR thing can even do? It's not as if the Americans will take any notice of UK law, because there's no point.
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Ntroepy 1 day ago +24
No. Not at all. Healthcare and the government and virtually all large businesses give major vendors and contractors access to highly sensitive data. They couldn’t operate without doing this. AWS, Oracle, Microsoft, and many hundreds of others. With the NHS, there are formal contracts with Palantir about what data they can access and how they can use the data. And that this data must remain within the NHS’s control. The issue is that most citizens don’t trust Palantir and think the NHS data will wind up in their larger, overarching data gathering on all citizens.
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Ok_Speed_3984 1 day ago +46
Spoiler Alert: Palantir will fully exploit all this data, and lie about the worst parts. There is nothing beneath them morally.
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Easy_Scarcity_6420 1 day ago +10
Wait until you learn health insurance companies use it
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Hithaeglir 1 day ago +52
You can't have a data breach if you give all data willingly. Genius.
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Suitable-Bonus3610 1 day ago +7
And if you didn’t rise up in protest at the thing no one ever told you they were doing, you obviously don’t care. The complaint form was in the room marked “Beware of the leopard” inside a locked filing cabinet. If you didn’t fill it out it’s on you.  /s
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DisastrousAcshin 2 days ago +10098
What does an American defence contractor require access to NHS patient data for exactly
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betacuck3000 2 days ago +3173
They want to learn all about my a*** fissure.
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doylethedoyle 1 day ago +805
Well now so do the rest of us.
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ChrisinCB 1 day ago +417
Rectum, damn near killed him.
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Hyjynx75 1 day ago +118
To shreds you say?
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Berkuts_Lance_Plus 1 day ago +35
You are now subscribed to A*** Fissure Facts.
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Turgid_Donkey 1 day ago +46
It'd fit right in with all the festering hemorrhoids currently running our gov't.
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Zolo49 1 day ago +15
Palantir is truly on the bleeding edge of data gathering.
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ACasualRead 1 day ago +23
Trying to understand how your fissure guarantees millions more to Israel.
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old_chelmsfordian 1 day ago +299
They're building something called the Federated Data Platform. Previously, a lot of data was held at the local or regional level, and this is designed to bring those datasets together, supposedly to help research, and to use things like AI to spot trends etc, as well as just making it easier to treat people if they get injured at the other end of the country to where they live etc. Not agreeing with it, but that's the justification for it. It seems they previously had access to data after it was anonymised, but will now be able to see the raw data. I know absolutely nothing about IT projects like this, and whether that is strictly necessary for designing the system in question.
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Vinterblot 1 day ago +567
In Germany, we have historically a kinda strict separation of data, because - yes, you've guessed it - the Nazis used centralized data archives to persecute their enemies.
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Odd_nonposter 1 day ago +56
Iirc a good portion of the Dutch resistance was destroying centralized records Nazis could use to identify people they wanted to persecute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1943_Amsterdam_civil_registry_office_bombing
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kalirion 1 day ago +170
Spoiler alert: Nazis will soon use centralized data archives to persecute their enemies again.
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HewHem 1 day ago +31
aw come on man you ruined the surprise
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IncomingAxofKindness 1 day ago +10
Really though, who could ***not see*** it coming.
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t0talnonsense 1 day ago +130
It's just unfortunate how predictably awful certain segments of the human race can be. We *should* be able to pool billions of datasets from around the world and let the number crunchers have a crack at it to try and find new ways to help and aid humanity. Instead, we find ourselves with bad actors in positions of power who will use and abuse that data to dastardly ends, which means we have to put artificial handcuffs on ourselves. And even if we aren't doing that, centralizing certain pieces of data would make things *infinitely* easier for the average person when it comes to medical records, legal/educational documentation, etc. It just sucks how much *we* suck.
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ChilledParadox 1 day ago +51
I just want to afford food this week and get enough to pay the deposit to start my internet and also maybe get a job soon so I can save up money to get a pet so I'm not completely isolated and alone for another year and everytime I read the news it's like, "new deadly hantavirus carriers leaving airports." "Palantir consolidates another governments dataset." "Court allows republicans to gerrymander, bans democratic plans." "new crypto scam run by president or presidents close friends." f****** hell please stop.
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Snow_Ghost 1 day ago +18
"You best start believing in Cyberpunk stories laddy... You're in one!"
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Whatdidievensay90 1 day ago +10
Does not a lot of anti card and privacy sentiment coming from the stasi experience in Eastern Germany?
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fugaziozbourne 1 day ago +108
It's weird to think about how ten years ago, people who leaned right were furious about their hospital charts being made digital, because they were worried about things like this happening.
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PartyLikeAByzantine 1 day ago +57
>It seems they previously had access to data after it was anonymised, but will now be able to see the raw data. I know absolutely nothing about IT projects like this, and whether that is strictly necessary for designing the system in question. It is not necessary, from an IT standpoint, to send non-anonymized data. Anonymization is done at a layer between the actual database and the outside service. You basically scrub it on the way out the door. It's also not and either/or thing. There are levels to obfuscating the individuals. You can only provide aggregated data of groups, or you can provide a randomized ID for each person so they can see an individuals whole history, but never be certain it's actually you or me. Providing raw data to a company like this deeply questionable.
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MsSelphine 1 day ago +9
Genuinely what in the f*** is the UK doing. Not in like the kind of joking way, no seriously genuinely what are they doing. This is a weird move that reeks bad intentions.
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bergmoose 1 day ago +805
An american defence contractor whos chairman & founder thinks the NHS itself is a bad thing
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radicalelation 1 day ago +376
The founder has plainly stated he started Paypal to overthrow the USD and replace it with something virtual people like him can control, and so the US kept giving Palantir limitless defense contracts for decades. It just doesn't make sense except to the very few who get to profit and control.
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Greenmagegirl 1 day ago +23
What are the odds we have 2 evil techbros in our government and theyre both from PayPal
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radicalelation 1 day ago +32
Weeellll... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia There's speculation of Nazi or Nazi collaborator heritage due to where many of them came from in South Africa. I didn't used to go so far with such conspiracy theories, but when you add up the obvious Nazi associations of today, and then all the rest with the current greater "axis" that goes beyond just the Yarvin-ite techbroligarchs, it gets creepy nazi. Let's take Heritage Foundation, for example. A thread that ties overtly all the way to the Reagan administration, who handed out the then-version of Project 2025 and a little further into the 70s. The founders Weyrich and Coors around the same time pal'd around with Laszlo Pasztor, a Hungarian national that spent time in prison for his role as the leader of the Arrow Cross Party, that had previously collaborated with Hitler's Third Reich. This very same Hungarian Nazi helped on Nixon's campaign, but between Nixon and Regan's administrations, one far lengthier thread exists: The Bush Family. HW Bush served as CIA director under Nixon, as well as Reagan's VP, and of course eventually President himself, with his son, Dubya, following later. Standard GOP incestuous circle to keep the political line *pure*, but where it gets weird is with the sins of the father. No, not HW, but HW's father. Prescott Bush is one of the only publicly known conspirators of [the Business Plot](https://harpers.org/2007/07/1934-the-plot-against-america/), an attempt to coup FDR by the wealthy industrialists for daring to equalize the ground between the rich and *the rest*. Bush approached Smedley Butler, the most decorated war hero of the time, to take over as *fascist* military dictator. A true patriot, Smedley reported and testified this to Congress, and Prescott was questioned, and summarily wrist-slapped... [much like his work through his bank, which helped fund Hitler's rise through serving one of Germany's wealthiest industrialists.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar) Have Nazis been conspiring for a century? Are the wealth supremacists just so unscrupulous, they'll always rub shoulders with Nazis? Is there even a difference if they keep coming back to collaborate over 100 years? I dunno but shit is wack.
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Electroppp7 1 day ago +28
Some AI will manipulate their greed and trick them into letting them take over
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NiceRat123 1 day ago +13
I mean he also said that certain cultures were superior than others and that Western dominance was necessary on the geopolitical stage...
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Mzebonga 1 day ago +30
Oh, it gets so much better when you check out who the UK CEO's Grandad was...
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bergmoose 1 day ago +8
oof, didn't know the BUF link, classy.
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brooklynlad 1 day ago +48
Who in the UK government is greenlighting this contract?
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Sea_Weakness_Pi 1 day ago +21
They are on at least one Government Commercial Agency (formerly Crown Commercial Services or CCS) framework agreement that I can think of. If central government or a sub-central government body runs a further competition from that framework agreement and Palantir wins, it is not permissible to not award them the contract because you don't like them. Basically it's a job for your MP to annoy the cabinet office about it - it's their framework agreement and procurement teams' hands are tied by the law.
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jonnythefoxx 1 day ago +48
Starmer has had personal meetings with Thiel while in the US that he refused to divulge the nature of. This is right from the top. The NHS database is a really juicy prize and I would love to know what Starmer has been promised in return for it.
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SpaceShrimp 1 day ago +24
Thiel has had secret meetings with a lot of head of states. I bet he pays better than their regular salary.
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Max-Phallus 1 day ago +41
The contract was awarded to Palantir in November 2023. This has nothing to do with Starmer.
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jonnythefoxx 1 day ago +18
Doesn't change the fact that he has had off the record meetings with him does it.
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HMS_Northumberland 2 days ago +233
Think of the children
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ZenBreaking 2 days ago +81
The ones they'll hunt down with their drones?
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Apprehensive-Art1092 2 days ago +35
Nah - the ones they'll force you into having
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brezhnervouz 2 days ago +50
Palantir has also been given a place embedded in Australia's defence forces 🤷‍♂️
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Total-Deal-2883 1 day ago +44
WTF is going on?!
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lucyooo 1 day ago +72
A stupendous and almost unimaginable amount of money most likely
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Nothing-Is-Boring 1 day ago +51
Peter Thiel needs to stop the antichrist from amassing all the world's information as they (the antichrist) would use it to harm the world. In order to prevent this, Thiel wants to amass all the world's information in a singular location and sell it to the highest bidder(s). For safety. And preventing the apocalypse. Also Peter Thiel is not a vampire. He assures us of this. He has never taken the blood of young boys in order to revitalise his youth. He assures of this.
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TurtleSlayer6969 1 day ago +15
It's sadly hysterical that the Orange child molester is pretty much the exact description of the warning signs of the antichrist and these dipshits completely ignore it. With Thiel bankrolling the couch f***** vp aswell.
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wankthisway 1 day ago +25
I'm so sick of reality being shaped by the delusions of mentally and emotionally stunted billionaire tech bros.
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hates_stupid_people 1 day ago +11
Are you familiar with the concept of a cyberpunk dystopia? Because you're in one, it's just the early stages.
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AnAncientBog 1 day ago +10
Turns out that the military industrial complex that has been destroying the world for the last 80 years has ... been destroying the world for the last 80 years. They have gotten pretty good at it.
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fragbot2 1 day ago +9
They are more than a defense contractor. They are a company with immense machine learning capabilities. There’s a reason they’re awarded the RFPs they are.
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iamezekiel1_14 1 day ago +16
That's just one of their arms - and yes to be completely clear I personally think Peter Thiel is a c***.
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Ill_Ad_791 2 days ago +3329
It’s amazing how we just have to accept it. No vote, no approval, our data is out of our control. Brilliant
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Ninja_Hedgehog 2 days ago +1239
Yeah. Kinda where I'm at. I'm British. I am not okay with this decision. Aaaaand I don't have a choice that my very private and potentially extensive health data is being given to Palantir? Coolcoolcoolcoolcool.
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Charitzo 1 day ago +383
My least favourite part is our tax deduction funds the Palantir contract, that then takes data from the health service we all use, that's also funded by wage deductions, from us. So if I'm following right, I'm paying someone to pay someone to get paid by someone, that I also pay? Not only are we losing our privacy in our healthcare data, and getting nothing for it, we are in fact paying the people to take the data? Are we idiots or just powerless? Starmer thinks Palantir will somehow solve this mythic and vague "mismanagement" problem the NHS suffers from. The reality is the way the private sector is involved in the NHS needs to be completely overhauled, but it'll never happen because the private companies have too much political sway.
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Max-Phallus 1 day ago +120
The contract was awarded to Palantir in November 2023. This has nothing to do with Starmer.
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AssistantEquivalent2 1 day ago +126
Cancel the contract.
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GarlicThread 1 day ago +17
And jail the traitors who signed it. I mean it. Jail these motherfuckers.
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Charitzo 1 day ago +33
HS2 was nothing to do with Sunak... Didn't stop him cancelling that. Unfortunately PM's inherit their predecessors failings, and that is like a sword over Damocles. Why are you defending this contract when it won't solve anything? The issue is private sector leakage of funds out of the NHS. For every chunk of money spent on patient care, another chunk is just given to the private sector through procurement contracts. When the NHS was first born all those years ago, nothing about it went to the private sector. All the money you contributed went to patient care. It's slowly changed over time. This is just a continuation of the status quo in a shiny new AI glittery robe.
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Max-Phallus 1 day ago +17
I'm not defending it. I'm just tired of idiots blaming Starmer for everything. If he cancelled it he'd have the press feeding the narrative that he wasted £330 million by scrapping it, and Reform would jump on that instead.
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Charitzo 1 day ago +12
Valid, I can agree with that. I don't agree with everything Starmer does (clearly), but you're certainly right that our media machine is against him.
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dsanders692 1 day ago +26
I'm not even British. But I've accessed the NHS, because I'm on a work visa. So I guess all mine and my family's medical history is in their hands now, too
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Not_a_N_Korean_Spy 1 day ago +42
Do you have the right to ask for a offline copy (even printed) of your medical history and a right to have the NHS copy of the data then erased?  I understand this is highly unpractical, but done massively, in a coordinated manner, as part of a protest against this should pressure the gov. Has the data already been accessed by Palantir or do we know when that would start happening?
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Thewalk4756 1 day ago +81
Company will just keep it anyway since the only punishment for these kinds of things, if discovered, is a fine.
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Not_a_N_Korean_Spy 1 day ago +27
Yes, once it is in the hands of Palantir it is too late to get it back.
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Spineberry 1 day ago +20
They'll refuse on grounds of "legitimate interest" Same as way back when I tried to exercise right to be forgotten from an enforced opt-in to a workplace pension scheme that I immediately opted out of but they continued to hassle me. Claimed to have "legitimate interest" in holding onto it I'm now thoroughly glad I haven't informed the NHS about my numerous changes of address or name in the last decade. Whatever data they have is old, outdated, and nothing to do with me
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Kitlun 1 day ago +13
Did you try reporting the company to the ICO? If it isn't legitimate interest then they could investigate them. 
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lil_icebear 1 day ago +78
it's time for a revolution
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Yallberforce 1 day ago +71
Not gonna be a popular comment but you absolutely do not have to just accept it. The issue is that everyone would rather accept it than accept the potential consequences of any of the numerous tactics available to get them to stop.
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Theolaa 1 day ago +29
Yup, it's the same problem in the US right now. They *could* make it all stop, but they're too comfortable to do what it takes.
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KIND_REDDITOR 1 day ago +20
What the f*** does that even mean? You absolutely do not have to follow the law, but the issue is everyone would rather follow the law than accept the potential consequences of not following the law?
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BicFleetwood 1 day ago +5
You have been commoditized for a long time now. Since before you were ever born.
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3scap3plan 2 days ago +878
a £300mill contract signed when the Tories were in control, for anyone wondering
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queBurro 2 days ago +297
F*** the Tories 
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sonsofgondor 1 day ago +9
Its always the Tories
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ccarlyon 1 day ago +6
[Banger.](https://youtu.be/p_n9RpeQBgo?si=pXGtQqSWxuXYRcqp)
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Falsus 1 day ago +157
And why the f*** would Labour honor this??
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old_chelmsfordian 1 day ago +146
Because terminating the contract would probably cost them a lot of money, invite a legal challenge, and if they don't own the code etc, they'd just need to tender the project again which would cost more time, and hundreds of millions more - at a time the government are desperate to save cash and get NHS waiting lists down. There's apparently also a break clause in 2027 where the NHS can walk away from the contract for comparatively little, which I imagine ministers are waiting for. Dont get me wrong, it's not ideal, but I can see why they'd stick with it
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Sleepybear2010 1 day ago +40
Walking away after giving up the data smh 
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old_chelmsfordian 1 day ago +49
Legally speaking Palantir can't do anything with the data without the NHS' consent. Now the question is whether you trust Palantir to act within the law, which I really don't. Can't see them volunteering to be audited either.
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Sleepybear2010 1 day ago +30
They just gonna get hacked and then their "hackers" will do the unethical shit 
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SlakingSWAG 1 day ago +16
I'd sooner expect Palantir to put a man on the surface of the sun and bring him back alive than I would them to act within the law and respect ordinary people's data.
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Prestigious-Orchid95 1 day ago +22
Yup, the whole thing with palantir is launching the federated data platform. Pull out of the contract and you lose all of that (and potentially the data as well! As thats unclear atm) and have to redo it. I don't agree with it at all and still think Labour should terminate it, but this will be the reason they arent. Palantir did a great job forming a contract that basically corners the NHS into something it can't ever pull out of.
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Waffle0calypse 2 days ago +1592
I’m sure this won’t be mismanaged into a horrific scandal down the line. /s
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TheRealBittoman 2 days ago +472
Just look up Flock cameras and how ICE is using them and Palantir to determine who to "deport" and you'll have proof the scandal and misuse are already here.
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Waffle0calypse 1 day ago +128
God forbid the people discover the decent source of copper and other valuable metals those cameras contain on a wide scale
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whichwitch9 1 day ago +63
Some already vandalize them in the US. Police respond quicker to flock vandalism than they do shootings. They're also fairly hard to get to, as well.
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TheRealBittoman 1 day ago +26
I do not advocate vandalism but I do need to add that no, they aren't all hard to get to. The vast majority around me now are on poles only a few meters high and barely off the side of the road.
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Undernown 1 day ago +14
Surely, those Flock cameras won't be more poorly secured than the c**** wifi camara you bought from China? What do you mean someone already proved how poorly secured they are and the government told them to f*** off?
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MindlessSponge 1 day ago +8
do let me know if you come across how we might encourage a shift in the mindset of people towards the Flock cameras. even outside of ICE, there are plenty of cases of nefarious use. anyone that gets access can make queries about any data they want, it doesn't have to be something they "should be" looking at. by and large, people don't care. especially the older crowd, they think the constant surveillance is a great thing. deters crimes or some such? sure, Jan.
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trilinker 2 days ago +51
You mean like the.. (checks notes).. met police?
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Sithishe 2 days ago +719
Now imagine J.R.R. Tolkien reading this headline
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Big-Inspection-5141 2 days ago +217
And then passing the paper to Orwell.
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DaNuker2 1 day ago +73
They are treating Orwell books as a tutorial
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AbcLmn18 1 day ago +62
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale. Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.
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bloop7676 1 day ago +12
We're at the part where most of the setting still thinks Saruman is on the good side
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Valuable_Tea_4690 2 days ago +35
I mean the reality isn’t far off
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SyriseUnseen 1 day ago +11
Im not sure he'd be that suprised.
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jfk9514 2 days ago +488
Jesus Christ. There’s making a deal with the devil then there’s this.
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Then-Understanding85 1 day ago +26
The Satanic Temple would never agree to this.
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HorseyDung 2 days ago +164
Bad idea.
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VixensPoppies 2 days ago +382
WHY? That’s insanity!! Why let palantir get access to anything!??
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Maladaptivism 2 days ago +411
There are 4 plausible reasons I can see: 1. They're too stupid to realize Palantir is literally managed by pure evil. 2. They're morally corrupt enough to not care that Palantir is literally managed by pure evil. 3. They're being blackmailed into not caring about that Palantir is literally managed by pure evil. 4. In spite knowing that Palantir is literally manged by pure evil they think the good outweighs the bad. **Edit to add** ***my opinion***: All four of these are cause to replace the people who made this decision.
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trilinker 2 days ago +114
Number 4. But replace "good" with "wheelbarrows full of money".
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NodeZeroNein 1 day ago +30
That's covered by the 2nd option
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DeliriousHippie 2 days ago +33
Here in Finland in public tenders they have to choose cheapest one that fits tender. If some Finnish company said 'Our price is 1 million and we will employ 100 Finns to do the job.' and then some Chinese company said 'Our price is 900k€, we won't produce a shit in Finland and we will steal every tech we can.' our law says that deal must go to Chinese company. Don't waste public money was idea behind this. In my example tendering is created in a wrong way, in that silly example tenderer could give bonus points for employing Finns.
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irregular_caffeine 1 day ago +15
I think EU procurement rules ban preferring home country but not sure if you can prefer EU
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drleondarkholer 1 day ago +4
Yeah, you cannot favour your own citizens or companies to those of other EU nations. But protectionism against foreign 3rd parties already exist. 
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MiiIRyIKs 2 days ago +40
I legitimately question if we all just collectively lost our sanity at some point because how can it be that no matter where I look we're making the dumbest choices possible, can we all for just a bit stop killing, exploiting, raping, abusing, bullying, hating and do so many more awful things to each other? It feels so obvious to any normal person so how come that again and again were getting proposals for chat control, this bullshit, new wars, whatever the f*** happened with Epstein etc, all the billionair greed that gets supported like it's the most normal thing in the world? Where's the pitchforks and activities from a certain time in Frances history that I probably can't even mention here without getting a complaint/ban from listnook?
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ramakitty 2 days ago +124
Quick reminder of their philosophy - [https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312](https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312)
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hoyfish 1 day ago +51
\>8. **Public servants need not be our priests.** Any business that compensated its employees in the way that the federal government compensates public servants would struggle to survive. Does make me laugh given : \- Public sector pays like shit \- Palentir only exists because of federal government contracts
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Just_the_nicest_guy 2 days ago +119
> Silicon Valley owes a moral debt to the country that made its rise possible. The engineering elite of Silicon Valley has an affirmative obligation to Pay a fair share of taxes? Support the social safety net? Ensure their own products are working to help and empower people rather than harm and exploit them? > participate in the defense of the nation. Ah, of course; a "debt" that requires that make unimaginably fat stacks of cash working on behalf of the military industrial complex.
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SapientTrashFire 1 day ago +52
I swear to Christ, this era is basically: Everyone: "Hey, don't do this." The government/corporations: "We're doing this."
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NerdyBrando 1 day ago +77
I hate that these evil companies are named after things from LOTR. Tolkien would never.
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FirstSurvivor 1 day ago +31
Even worse, the Palantirs were used for evil in LotR.
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afterworld2772 1 day ago +41
Thats the bit that fucks me right off. Sauron used the palantirs to spy and corrupt, and these illiterate idiots go 'yeah sounds like a great company to work with.' Literally the only way it could be more on the nose is if they called themselves Evil Incorporated
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raanas 1 day ago +11
A lore fun fact: they are commonly associated with him, but palantíri aren't Sauron's invention, they were made by Feanor. None of them have intrinsic power over the others, only the master stone, which Sauron doesn't possess. He has the Ithil stone which is as ordinary as the one held by denethor or the one Saruman had in orthanc Not so fun fact: Peter Thiel and everyone involved with The American company palantír are vile cunts.
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Rndysasqatch 1 day ago +19
They think they are the coolest people on earth naming stuff like this too when in reality they're just f****** lame.
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HopelessRespawner 1 day ago +50
Wtf, an American here, please stop giving Palantir anything. We don't want them to f****** have it either. F*** Thiel.
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OneNormalBloke 2 days ago +84
All about brow envelopes under the table.
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dronebox 1 day ago +11
Are brow envelopes like smaller versions of eye-bags… maybe this is the question Palantir is seeking the answers to?
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theolentangy 2 days ago +90
Get ready to have your loan denied because you told your therapist you’re worried about money.
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SemiHemiDemiDumb 1 day ago +58
Why do I feel like I'm in the opening montage of a dystopian or post apocalyptic movie. You know where they are showing news reels showing headlines or snippets of the building blocks of the fall?
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Fenix42 1 day ago +13
I have been saying this since like 2015.
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Jarvdoge 1 day ago +15
How do I opt out? Seriously, given the political situation in the US, I don't feel safe with one of their defence companies having data like this.
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4FuckSnakes 2 days ago +29
The social contract, the idea that hard work will inevitably lead to a better life for you and your kids, is no longer possible. The sad fact is that all governments, fascist or otherwise, will need to find new ways to keep your sorry ungrateful ass in line.
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willstr1 1 day ago +30
Just a friendly reminder, Palantir is literally named after the orb that Sauron used to corrupt Saruman in Lord of the Rings. How blatantly evil do you have to be to name your company after that?
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GranFlakes 1 day ago +12
Well why aren't we protesting?
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ToastNomNomNom 1 day ago +12
goverment sold us out as usual
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Wayland935 1 day ago +12
When the f*** did any of us vote for this.
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ilulillirillion 1 day ago +12
Apparently Palantir claims they want to solve "mismanagement" using AI. Shouldn't we wait for a single example of this working in one of the thousands of private organizations doing it before we even consider this? The horror stories we hear should be cause for pumping the brakes, but instead we keep accelerating up the bridge. It feels stupid at this point to say it's not for the people, that it only serves an elite class of actors who do not care about our best interest. It's so obvious it's like calling the sky blue.
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KPABA 2 days ago +48
Wait, what about GDPR? Should we not be implicitly asked for consent or be given the ability to opt out?
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3_Thumbs_Up 1 day ago +12
Gdpr is just any personal data. Health records should have stronger protections.
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LucidBacon 1 day ago +8
I hate it here.
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Blindrafterman 1 day ago +11
I beg your pardon good sir?? This is just plain bad news, no AI tech company, especially one that wants to weaponize AI, should have access to anything let alone health data.
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PortlyBee 1 day ago +9
The best thing Europe and UK can do is protest the hell out of Palantir having anything to do with you. They're pure evil. Thiel, Karp, Yarvin, and their "dark enlightenment" nonsense is truly batshit insane.
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EqualityIsProsperity 1 day ago +8
EU: We're going to reduce our government exposure to large tech companies. UK: YOLO!
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cancercureall 1 day ago +7
Can someone explain to me *f****** why* politicians the world over are so f****** awful? This should be illegal.
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Deacon86 1 day ago +9
Wonderful, let's fork over our sensitive personal information to a foreign defence firm literally named after a cursed artefact used by the embodiment of pure evil to spy on people. I see *no way* this could possibly go wrong.
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squeeze-my-lizard 2 days ago +41
If you think “who would be stupid enough to do this?”, remember that UK left the EU
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Various_Good_6964 2 days ago +19
“Anyone external requiring access must have government security clearance and be approved by a member of NHS England staff at director level or above.” Quote from an NHS spokesperson... Unsure as to whether that means external to NHS or external to Palantir, hopefully the NHS. Otherwise, this is an absolute disaster waiting to happen. If the staff are appropriately vetted by govt, then it's potentially not as bad as it sounds and if it helps make the NHS better, we should maybe have a slightly open mind... (Probably an unpopular opinion)
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skitsology 2 days ago +24
Peter probably one of the worst human beings so this should go well
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KindHearted_IceQueen 1 day ago +7
This is incredibly concerning and yet, within a week I’m certain it will disappear from the news cycle. We won’t hear much about it until a year or two later when the horrible consequences come to light and politicians will publicly lament that something should have been done about this and we’ll end up rinsing and repeating this process with something similar all over again. I truly wish things were different…
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lidongyuan 1 day ago +9
Uggh, I know why we're stupid in the US, but why do European countries have to be stupid in the same ways?
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Calzinarzin 1 day ago +8
The EU isnt. They are looking at banning US companies like this. The UK on the other hand isn't in the EU and is as dumb as the US is.
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qthrow12 1 day ago +7
If people knew what palantir could really do, they would be terrified and fight back. But no one knows. I saw a presentation at work and in my line of work it was alarming and scary to see the data they had and how they are using it. The potential for it is huge and when brought together with other systems or data. You will just be a tracked number that has every bit of information on you, nothing you can hide. Then access to that is shared with government and other organizations. scary shit
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Trashy_Cappy 1 day ago +15
All the British I've seen on their respective news channels, wagging their fingers at Americans for having to deal with the trump problem, seem to forget that their own Brexit was orchestrated by the same money and entities behind trump. and here we are, watching them feed palantier, one of the companies trying to destroy democratic society. unreal.
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IgorMambo 1 day ago +14
The head of Palantir in the UK, Louis Mosley, has a famous grandad.
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integrate_2xdx_10_13 1 day ago +7
_Holy shit_. You can’t make this stuff up. The Mosley’s and the Mitford’s should have stayed an embarrassing page in history books. Not given positions in international surveillance with other neo-facists
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old-legs-623 2 days ago +71
This alone should be sufficient cause for a revolution -- and not from the "Reform" direction either.
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ccarlyon 1 day ago +17
Reform would expedite the deal before selling off the NHS altogether.
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damianxyz 2 days ago +16
the only revolution that can be started from listnook is banning people on listnook by mod cunts.
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sixstringedmenace 1 day ago +8
This is incredibly disheartening to hear.
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LivingDracula 1 day ago +5
As an American, WHY THE F*** IS YOUR GOVERNMENT ALLOWING A PRIVATE INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATION ACCESS TO YOUR MEDICAL DATA? A large majority of their employees are former CIA, and frankly Palantir has largely replaced the CIA in the current regime.
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Kind_Focus5839 1 day ago +6
Ok, I'm not living in the UK but people shouls absolutely be getting on the phone to their MP's about this. There's no way I want Peter Thiel to have my medical data.
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Aurolei 1 day ago +4
It's crazy how Palantir is named after the seeing stones in LOTR and this shit. Didn't they learn nothing from the movies/books about why it's dangerous???
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paulcdejean 1 day ago +6
What the f***? Isn't Labour supposed to be a left wing party? And isn't Palantir extreme far right?
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premiumbra 1 day ago +5
I love this so much, the same government which criticized china doing same thing. Like damn, something something hypothecriy
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tapilogali_rs 1 day ago +6
Excuse me what the f***?
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b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh 1 day ago +6
I'm no lawyer, but that's seems to piss all over the Data Protection Act, General Data Protection Regulation *and* Common Law Duty of Confidentiality. What's the point of having so-called lawmakers when they can just ignore the laws they themselves enacted whenever they please?
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Small-Percentage-181 2 days ago +16
This extremely worrying isn't doctors stuff supposed to be private now it's been given to right wing american fascists?
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lxtrxi 1 day ago +5
https://www.england.nhs.uk/digitaltechnology/nhs-federated-data-platform/fdp-faqs/#will-the-nhs-sell-my-data This site does go into a fair amount of detail. Still, not great.
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EnormousChord 1 day ago +5
Could there be a more evil empire corporate name than Palantir? 
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ultegrafender 1 day ago +5
Wes. Streeting.
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SouthOfTheNorthPole 1 day ago +4
Wes Streeting is building his billionaire personal wealth base off the back room deals he's made with these slimy, greedy bastards.
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oldastheriver 1 day ago +4
and they will turn around and sell it. Mark my words.
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LickMyNutBigBoi 1 day ago +4
Palantir is evil, in Australia they have surveillance contracts to our supermarkets, and now we have security gates, facial recognition cameras that also track employees. It's scary
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TampaPowers 1 day ago +6
This would never fly under EU law..
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att0mic 1 day ago +4
Only 6 years ago I thought corporations as powerful as global superpowers were just a crazy cyberpunk plot while I was playing through the story. I understood back then that we're heading in that direction in the real world, but I didn't expect that we'd be speedrunning it this much.
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Snoo_94254 1 day ago +5
How the f*** are they getting away with this shit
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nikoZ_ 1 day ago +5
The world is becoming more dystopian by the second. Governments have got too much power and control. They are supposed to serve us! Not the other way around.
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Totalanimefan 1 day ago +4
Time to protest in the streets??
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funnypsuedonymhere 1 day ago +5
Governments are becoming far too comfortable with treating the will of the public with utter contempt.
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BLSPRedDeath 1 day ago +5
What could go wrong?!? Brilliant Idea. No really great leadership. Throw your whole country under the bus in one go. Perfect.
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Fun_Reply5366 1 day ago +6
This is outrageous
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Fancy-Departure4632 1 day ago +8
Are you Brits insane?
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shimoheihei2 1 day ago +9
As someone working in IT projects with large enterprises, I can confirm that this sort of move is a very bad idea, and in 2026 almost no serious IT admin would grant that type of access. It shows very bad judgement on the part of the NHS.
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