Thank f*** honestly, I saw it reported they were being ‘asked to isolate’ and that sounded like a recipe for disaster.
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kace912 days ago
+92
Same is happenning in Spain. The chaos seems to be related to countries firguring out on the go whether there's a legal basis to force citizens into quarantine or not.
Here, a judge just accepted the government's request of it being mandatory, but until that was clear they only spoke of "trusting the citizens would comply".
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rclonecopymove2 days ago
+18
I'd have no problem if they could isolate at home with monitoring of course. When we're talking about two people only wouldn't be difficult. I'm assuming they have a reasonably big house and garden (cause they were on that silly cruise I imagine they have money). If they are safe to keep to themselves and have someone there to stop people coming to the door and someone to get any stuff they need why not? Of course that's assuming they're healthy and they're willing to stay at home.
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DillBagner2 days ago
+14
That someone coming and going to get them stuff they need would then potentially move the virus to the rest of the population.
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rclonecopymove2 days ago
+12
How? What do you and your Amazon delivery guy do together?
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Fractal_Tomato1 day ago
+5
Breathe each other’s aerosols for example. If the infected people live in an apartment, there’s probably badly ventilated hallways. Technically, just opening the door to the apartment could be a danger.
I mean GB has completely botched its pandemic response by not recognizing SARS is airborne. Since WHO’s recommendations still don’t recognize the simple act of breathing as an aerosol generating procedure, we can only hope the hospital provides FFP2s at a bare minimum to it’s workers and the sick. I’d not be surprised if that doesn’t happen.
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rclonecopymove1 day ago
-12
Oh ok, you didn't read my post, I'm sorry.
Did NI do much better?
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rclonecopymove1 day ago
-3
You know what I've had enough stupid for one day.
>I'd have no problem if they could isolate at home with monitoring of course. When we're talking about two people only wouldn't be difficult. I'm assuming they have a reasonably big house and garden (cause they were on that silly cruise I imagine they have money). If they are safe to keep to themselves and have someone there to stop people coming to the door and someone to get any stuff they need why not? Of course that's assuming they're healthy and they're willing to stay at home.
See that, that's what I wrote. Here's the idiocy you vomited.
>Breathe each other’s aerosols for example.
How? You think they couldn't organise no contact delivery in this situation?
> If the infected people live in an apartment, there’s probably badly ventilated hallways. Technically, just opening the door to the apartment could be a danger.
What infected people? You mean the people whoay have been exposed who are not showing symptoms and are not testing positive? Those people? Surely after 6 years of a pandemic you would have been able to figure out the difference between exposure and infection, quarantine and self isolation?
Now aside from expressly addressing your other stupid point in my comment about house size, do you think that a couple who were able to drop a minimum of $15,000USD on a holiday are living in a badly ventilated apartment?
>I mean GB has completely botched its pandemic response by not recognizing SARS is airborne.
What an odd thing to say did the devolved government in Stormont (which wasn't up and running as I recall) have a different position?
> I'll just go ahead and presume your assumptions on the ID expertise in the UK is at the same level as the rest of your poorly thought out rubbish.
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Gravity-Glitch21 hr ago
+2
It does say exactly that in the article
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wasps-knees1 day ago
+2
This article states they will be tested and isolated up to 72 hours… and from what I read, the testing isn’t really reliable in the incubation period/until after the symptoms show up, which can be up to 8 weeks… so yeah, as a total layperson I’m not really convinced it’s that much better than just “asking” to isolate
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freedfg2 days ago
+373
Whaaat? You mean this easily solvable problem can be easily solved????
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Dwansumfauk1 day ago
-443
Yes let's just quarantine everyone suspected of contacting the virus, uproot their lives, jobs, and other responsibilities, without pay just like Australia did to many thousands of its citizens during COVID. Perfect solution, totally reasonable. /s
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Small_Green_Octopus1 day ago
+206
.....
Yes?
It's a handful of people
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NorkGhostShip1 day ago
+167
Quarantining a few people now before it becomes a problem is better than uprooting millions of people's lives from the virus breaking out.
How is that hard to understand?
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Select_Historian62691 day ago
+101
They're selfish losers.
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Hopeful_Chair_71291 day ago
-71
It’s not hard to understand but they do have a point about their lives being potentially impacted by decisions like these. Of course it’s in the public’s interest that they are quarantined, but the people being quarantined should be protect from reprisal from their jobs and likely be financially compensated prior to any legal battles to cover living costs while they are segregated and unable to work.
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ClaytonWest741 day ago
+41
I agree with you, if that’s the case then it’s the laws / government that will have to step in to prevent them from facing any repercussions from their workplace etc., it shouldn’t be something that is used as sort of an argument against quarantining them
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Hopeful_Chair_71291 day ago
-26
That’s exactly why those protections matter. If quarantining means risking your job, income, or housing, people will rationally hesitate to cooperate. Public health systems work better when individuals are materially protected from the consequences of compliance.
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freedfg1 day ago
+138
All like. 20 people? Yes
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2centpiece1 day ago
+68
Australia paid people in isolation. https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research/Quick_Guides/2021-22/COVID-19DisasterPayments
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iamnotexactlywhite1 day ago
+16
these people will be on sick leave and paid by the govt too. idk what is this idiot trying to instigate
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LumberBitch19 hr ago
+6
Dude probably thinks the whole world is an anti-worker hellhole like the US
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jovial_rebel18 hr ago
+1
Definitely one of those rabbit hole conspiracy people
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TheWeeWeeWrangler1 day ago
+47
Darn, you're right. Time to let the disease run rampant and kill thousands.
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icantbelieveit16371 day ago
+11
No but what about the rich bird watchers what about all the future bird watching
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icantbelieveit16371 day ago
+39
You knows what’s worse than uprooting lives? F****** dying
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Deathmaw1 day ago
+54
Yep, that's how quarantine works?
Their normal daily activities aren't more important than people's lives.
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sagewynn1 day ago
+23
Not a single thought goes on in that head of yours, does it?
Can you shake your head for the class, do you hear anything bouncing around?
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Recon17961 day ago
+17
So you would rather innocent people contract a deadly disease and potential die because quarantine is an inconvenience. People like you are an absolute net negative to society. Selfish prick.
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beerhandups1 day ago
+10
Are you volunteering to go hang out with them in quarantine?
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TheHawk171 day ago
+7
Is the soft spot on the top of your skull sunken in?
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insanekid661 day ago
+2
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
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dave840022 hr ago
+2
Your convenience versus someone's f****** life. Grow the f*** up.
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tubaboss91 day ago
+3
I agree that the government should pay their wages if they are forcing a small group of people into isolation but the rest of this comment is very dumb.
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iamnotexactlywhite1 day ago
+2
they will be. sick leave is paid
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tubaboss922 hr ago
+2
In that case I amend my statement to “the entirety of this comment is very dumb.”
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8ackwoods1 day ago
+1
Stupid is as stupid does. Put the kool aid down
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Dminik1 day ago
+1
I mean, I imagine they could just get sick leave? It's not like the UK has no employee protection in regards to sickness.
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jovial_rebel18 hr ago
+1
If you think this is unreasonable, then you You are definitely not ok
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No-Builder-103816 hr ago
+1
As opposed to infecting possible thousands more? lol easy choice
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THEPIGWHODIDIT2 days ago
+44
Reason prevails. If only other countries would do the same
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Possible_Top27831 day ago
+18
Hantavirus also killed actor Gene Hackman's wife. She was sick for days without even knowing what was wrong. This disease is so rare and most people have never heard of it before.
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sidechain1012 days ago
+45
I'm a bit out of the loop here.
Isnt it much easier if they just stayed on the ship till the risk of exposure is dealt with? Or have some passengers disembarked already?
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evilsalmon2 days ago
+72
It’s a lot harder to fully decontaminate the ship, and keeping everyone quarantined in an environment like that would increase the risk of exposure - better to isolate on land - especially if someone \*does\* turn out to be infected then they’re already in a hospital in isolation and don’t need to be transported at peak of virility.
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SalamanderCake2 days ago
+34
>transported at peak of virility
That's how I'll describe myself the next time I'm a passenger.
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BoringOrange6781 day ago
+7
That’s what I told my first wife.
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icantbelieveit16371 day ago
+7
Well you risk increased infectivity forcing them to stay on the boat we have plenty of quarantine protocols from Covid which was a much more contagious virus. Also yes f****** scores already left the boat after the first person died so cats already out of the bag so to say.
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fiendishrabbit11 hr ago
+1
The Andes strain of the Hanta virus is very deadly but not very contagious.
But cruise ships are basically filled with opportunities to cross-contaminate, so it's much safer for everyone involved to evacuate the ship and move them to places where they can isolate.
If it was something airborne like COVID then you could assume that everyone was already infected, so it would be better to keep people aboard.
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gnanny021 day ago
+3
The virus has been around for a very long time. There are outbreaks every year. They don't significantly go anywhere. Only this one strain ANDV has ever been human-to-human contagious, and that is very rarely. It has not ever been report that someone who caught it from a human passed it along further. I can't find the article I read this in.
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Media_Browser2 days ago
-11
How come they drew the short straw in hospital on the Wirral and the other couple got self isolation at home for 45 days ?
Has the third Brit victim tipped the board a little ?
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spiforever2 days ago
-54
Wait til the gov’t sends them a bill 6 months later! Edited to add, for US, they will send you a bill.
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jascany2 days ago
+35
American detected, worldview on healthcare rejected
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dave840022 hr ago
+4
lol it's telling isn't it? It's like it's baked into our minds.
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Khornight2 days ago
+27
free healthcare and free repatriation to the uk. Don't know what kind of terrible country would send people a bill for this kind of thing
(sarcasm, of course I know)
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jascany1 day ago
+6
Mate, we already knew it was the US because it’s pretty much the only country on earth where that could happen.
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