But some commenters on Listnook assured me that Russia posed no threat to the UK, as we didn't have a land border with them, their navy was decrepit and the warnings by key defence personnel about their capabilities was just fear-mongering for extra money...
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MetalBawx1 day ago
+23
The black sea fleets taken a beating but those ships based in the north and far east are still very much functional.
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Alone_Again_21 day ago
+4
True, but lessons have been learned.
Even the vaunted US Navy is very circumspect about the risk to their boats now.
Well done, Ukraine.
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Combat_Orca1 day ago
+1
Do you have to comment this everywhere? It’s a common opinion that Russia is the biggest threat to the UK
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MGC911 day ago
Perhaps you should look at some of the replies to my comment.
That might show you why I made this in the first place.
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rabbit_in_a_bun1 day ago
-35
Russia only needs to wait until the UK has no navy left and the USA to leave NATO is all...
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KetracelYellow1 day ago
+10
We can borrow some of Ukraines drones. They took out the Black Sea Fleet without a navy! Slava Ukraini 🇬🇧🇺🇦
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spetulia_goth1 day ago
+10
believing shitty propaganda that the UK can't protect itself. we do have the means for wartime production if it cones to it, our fleet is constantly upgraded, and we've just massively boosted military spending.
you're either a Russian bot or you believe everything you read online without question.
whatever man, try it
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Ramiren1 day ago
+21
By foiled, they mean we let Russia assess what the royal navy's response times were, then leave unhindered.
If this were a jet f****** around at a nuclear plant or military base, they'd be shot down. Russia needs to be told, these places are off limits and if you intrude you will be sunk. Then when they do it again actually sink them. Strength is the only language Russia understands.
If the government wants some deniability, just say Ukraine did it.
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shoobs51 day ago
-10
Some of you guys are just desperate for us to start WW3 because you to swing your d*** around by proxy.
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Sniperkitten421 day ago
-4
Late to the last 2 world wars, determined to start the third....
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MGC911 day ago
+18
>Consequently, this year the UK's carrier group will be deployed to the High North and lead the new Nato mission, Arctic Sentry. Healey says this is "where it is most needed".
Almost like the threat to the UK from Russia hasn't gone away despite events in the Middle East, and perhaps deploying a Carrier Strike Group to that region instead of to the High North would actually damage the UK's security more ...
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Anyales1 day ago
+4
So you post news stories on your other account then ctrl-v your comments on this account? Whats the point?
edit - i was wrong on op being the same btw, just being nosy
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MGC911 day ago
This is my only account ...
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Anyales1 day ago
+7
Flair enough, i was confused as you have responded with the same comments to the same poster in multiple subs
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UuusernameWith4Us1 day ago
+2
> to the same poster
I (the poster not the commenter) have only posted this in one place.
And if someone thinks their comment is worth cross posting across multiple discussions why not let them have at it? At least it's not a drive by shit post.
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Potential-South-28071 day ago
+12
"UK navy" 🤢
It is the Royal Navy.
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umataro1 day ago
-2
There are other monarchies with navies. I welcome the "UK" addition to the name when reading international news. The ISO code for UKraine makes it clear which country this is about.
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ErrantFuselage1 day ago
+4
The Royal Navy has earned their title as "The" Royal Navy. Not being jingoistic etc, but if you look at the history of the RN which will be 500 years old in 2046, you'll see why it has legitimately claimed that right. Virtually everything about how modern Navies are structured was invented by the RN - distinct officer class, code of conduct, uniform, professionalisation, organizational structure, doctrine, rules of the sea.
The wider effects on global society are also wider than you might expect. One of the key factors that sparked the industrial revolution was the standardisation of RN warship spare parts and components like rope and tackle, leading to large scale factories, which in turn needed dedicated supply lines and large skilled workforces which lead to argicultural revolution and also the use of coal powered steam power to make the hundreds of thousands of identical nails needed to build the ships. Before this ships were artisanally bespoke and parts had to be crafted by specific carpenters.
It's one of the most innovative and enduring institutions in the last milenia, the case for its eponymous name is quite convincing, in my humble English opinion.
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Jollyjacktar1 day ago
+3
The above comment must only be read with "Heart of Oak" playing loudly on the gramophone in the background.
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grumpymcgrumpface1 day ago
+3
I like to think that UK submarines sneak up on Russian submarines, give them a tap on the stern, and tell them to move along. NOTHING TO SEE HERE
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erikwarm1 day ago
+2
The rest of the world should learn to deal with Russia the same way Turkey did. Shoot them down until the harassment and breaching of airspace/sea stops.
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Paradox7111 day ago
+2
How long until this too escalates in to another conflict? All this because of a handful of old power hungry despots he’ll bent on proving they aren’t the small insecure men they are inside.
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richardathome1 day ago
+1
I "hope" the Russians don't have another Kursk incident...
Their submarines mysteriously exploding might become a trend...
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falkens_maze_701 day ago
+1
So we're saying, don't even look at the cables bro
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niceufo7771 day ago
+1
They should do like the Swiss, put on the radio, "Is anyone who finds aqymui gay?" and they don't pass through there, remember, there are no gays in Russia... according to many politicians.
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AussieaussieKman1 day ago
+1
Are their subs as good as their army ? They are probably lost
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Woerligen1 day ago
+1
Trigger Article 5 now!
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QDSchro1 day ago
-6
America is busy for one second, all these people start screaming how they don’t need us and almost immediately Russia starts checking response times and detection capabilities…….
A lot of people don’t seem to realize that the biggest deterrent of Russia and China is the US. I don’t know why it makes them so upset but Denying it doesn’t make that fact go away.
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colacube1 day ago
+3
Yes it’s a shame the US weren’t there to give Russia an e*****.
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SP15701 day ago
+1
I thought it was Russia providing the US president with e******...
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QDSchro1 day ago
-1
Hasn’t and won’t happen….nice try though.
A president being friendly with Putin does not mean all leadership is. Even though other countries want all entities of our government to be conflated with a loon. And it’s beyond any sort of logic that countries would cheer on their own demise….Russia and China are doing a great job manipulating information because those countries don’t seem to realize it’s happening.
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colacube1 day ago
+1
> A president being friendly with Putin does not mean all leadership is. Even though other countries want all entities of our government to be conflated with a loon.
Trump demanded the US stop helping Ukraine with weaponry. The US stopped. What ‘leadership’ stood in his way?
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QDSchro1 day ago
Again China and Russia are doing a great job.
The US has not stopped supporting Ukraine. Has there been a pivot for direct funding to come from NATO? Yes…we’ve spent almost $200B…Russia is not at our back door it’s at NATOs so the pivot holds our allies accountable by forcing them to contribute to their own security. we still are a crucial part. We’ve been supporting for a long time. We trained their military, sure other countries contributed but who trained those countries?We did….We have and continue to arm them. The last package was more than $400M in things like missiles. A majority of their “China free” components on their extremely successful drones came from the US….
I would suggest not just you but people in general do some research. The world hierarchy and history that got us all here is something that is being ignored. A mistake for all parties involved.
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colacube1 day ago
+2
You completely avoided my point. What ‘leadership’ is pushing back on trump’s removing of support for Ukraine? You can say he hasn’t removed it entirety, that’s true, but it has still been greatly diminished.
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QDSchro1 day ago
I didn’t avoid your point I answered it perhaps too comprehensively as it was addressing your misinformed statement that the US has stopped support… The direct funding has now been swapped. Instead of the US giving 46% of direct aid to Ukraine, NATO has that burden. So diminished? Yes and rightfully so.
The purse….Congress…there have been plenty of instances. The funding being one of them….the others are barely reported on because that doesn’t exploit global unrest through clicks and viewership.
Unfortunately a lot of information being pushed the hardest is designed to sew doubt,mistrust, and insecurity globally. Without any form of accountability for media outlets China, Russia and Iran are taking advantage of this. They can spread a lie like “the US stopped giving Ukraine weapons” quickly and efficient because the general public believes solely what is in the media and various social media platforms…The loudest information doesn’t immediately make it true.
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colacube1 day ago
+2
The question was: which leader will keep trump in check?
Your answer: it’s good that we stopped giving Ukraine weapons.
???
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QDSchro1 day ago
+1
If you wanted me to explain it to you like you’re 5 you should’ve asked. Be advised this symbol > indicates when something is greater than (9>5). Don’t want any confusion there.
The Purse=congress
Congress>the president…
People in Congress( leaders from each state selected by the people who live there)have said no to the president on several occasions.
We don’t have a single leader who would speak for everyone.
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colacube1 day ago
+2
> several occasions
Ah yes, I forgot about those ‘several occasions’. Was one of the times when trump removed intelligence support to strong-arm Ukraine into an unfavourable deal, costing Ukraine to lose its foothold in Kursk? Good job congress! Where would we be without you?!
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Globalnaut1 day ago
-3
Russland hat sich seit der terroristischen Sprengung der zivilen russisch/deutsch Nordstream Pipelines erstaunlich zurückgehalten mit der Benennung möglicher Verantwortlicher. Vor einiger Zeit wurde dann darauf aufmerksam gemacht das britische Kräfte wesentlich daran beteiligt gewesen sein sollen und weitere Aktionen planen. Vielleicht ist das auftauchen russischer U-Boote (beabsichtigt sichtbar) vor der englischen Küste ja auch der wink mit dem Zaunpfahl so etwas sein zu lassen ;)
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