Trump bashed our naval fleets but wanted our help lol
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PLUX46 days ago
+96
The UK is doing everything possible to stay away and avoid collaborating with the Orange Man. I cannot blame them.
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gildedbluetrout6 days ago
+57
Seriously, f*** that c***. He can fix his own f*** up. He can say he’s leaving NATO, but really, you couldn’t trust America to answer article 5 anyway. They’d never show up. And they’re the only pricks that ever activated it. Sick to the back teeth of Americans. Country of racist, fascist cunts the lot of them. Look who they elected ffs.
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nocturne_gemini6 days ago
+9
lol the audacity of a meth head to be saying all of this
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gildedbluetrout6 days ago
+18
You lot would never show up anyway. Only country you give a f*** about is your own. Keep waving your d*** flag at yourselves and wanking over that stupid fat orange c*** in the white house.
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IntelligentPeace15576 days ago
+8
Well said mate it's true the wanker Yanks are the only ones that ever activated it. They only activated it after 9.11 and only then coz they couldn't catch who they needed on they're own. Now they're finding out just how many nations actually despise them
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sambro19916 days ago
+5
Shame it can't look after its civilians. How much do you spend annually on your military compared to health-care? Oh wait, you don't have a social healthcare system either. Really shows you who America cares about, and it ain't its own civilians.
How does it feel knowing Israel has national healthcare for free while America has been paying the bill? Sure America offers a lot, but it turns out, it isn't for you either. USA, USA, USA (only if you can afford freedom)
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_Panacea_5 days ago
+2
The cost of the moon base NASA is planning would be covered completely by the money spent on 11 days of the Iran war.
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Better-Lunch6706 days ago
-13
I never said it was the greatest place on Earth. But I'm not gonna let some bum tell me I'm a racist fascist pig because of the country I live in. Whose really the bigot?
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sambro19915 days ago
+5
The fact you took that personally, speaks a lot.
I shouldn't have to say much more.
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Better-Lunch6705 days ago
-8
"Sick to the back teeth of Americans. Country of racist, fascist cunts the lot of them."
How was this intended to be taken if not personally?
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sambro19915 days ago
+2
The people, no. The government and cradling of Israel who's committing genocide? Yeah, no wonder the world has this opinion about the USA. A lot of people have supported this for a 2nd year running. Shows a lot about the people of the country that voted for this.
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Better-Lunch6705 days ago
-2
This has been going on for much longer than a year. Get your facts straight before you interject yourself in a conversation. I don't know why you keep doubling down on an ignorant statement that you didn't even make, but it makes you look just as stupid.
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TachiH6 days ago
+3
I don't see how people have this view. The US are launching their attacks from airbases in the UK, they fly all the way around to Gibraltar as they cant use EU airspace.
He is not standing up to Trump as much as he should be.
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tweda46 days ago
+11
I don't entirely disagree, but frankly I'm used to UK PMs just agreeing to whatever the US says, so I'm just happy to appreciate the resistance to active involvement.
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Stephen17294 days ago
+1
That's a fair critcism but can you imagine if Farage had been PM. The body bags would already be coming back to Brize Norton
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Grand_Public6 days ago
-3
Thing is and this is the sad part they are only distancing themselves because if they help trump then its political suicide and they might as well say bye byeb to their jobs
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ExultentPisces6 days ago
-8
We learned from Neville Chamberlain…
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Stephen17294 days ago
+1
Except in that analogy Trump is Hitler and Starmer is Churchill refusing to kow-tow
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Rowmyownboat6 days ago
+69
I think Starmer has done a good job of the British Prime Minister no longer being Trump's b****.
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BaneOfMyLife6 days ago
+8
Imagine how far Boris would be bending over for Trump
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barcodez6 days ago
+4
I think that might be Boris' job now tbh.
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Note-4-Note6 days ago
+34
Oh dear!! Mean tweets are brewing.
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GodzillaUK6 days ago
+9
It's all good, we call each other cunts as a friendly greeting. What's the worst the orange turd can say? "very not good people"? Our poor feelings will never recover. Woe is us.
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OldLondon6 days ago
+3
Yeah I’m the same with this - oh no he called us a name - get fucked we do that shit for funsies
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BMW_wulfi6 days ago
+17
Been around the block a few times and it’s not rocket science.
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Vaxtez6 days ago
+70
Starmer has made me so bloody proud with how he's handled Trump the last few weeks.
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johnnycyberpunk6 days ago
-3
> with how he's handled Trump the last few weeks
It's basically: "No we won't do what he's telling us to do"
and
"No, that's a lie we never said/did that"
and
"What Trump is proposing is actually bad"
I mean, kinda bare minimum yea? ...but still a big deal since there aren't many first world leaders who are publicly rejecting anything Trump has published.
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sunnyislandacross5 days ago
+7
Telling a friend or boss is easy.
Telling the literal one of the modt powerful person on the planet is a different story.
In that position, nobody says things like that without first considering the impact of millions of lives
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Green_Shape_38596 days ago
+9
Any politician who is against Trumps administration is going to be favourable. During his term you will see elections won & lost on that very policy
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dvb706 days ago
+15
Let's say the UK even was on board with Trumps plans what happens when he changes his mind in a few days time? You can't ally with a person who is so unreliable you have no idea how their position might change given a few days. You just end up looking foolish or worse carrying the can for a mess you did not start.
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Stephen17294 days ago
+2
Exactly. Plus we KNOW that Trump would blame the allies that joined him for any mistakes made by him. He doesn't want help. He wants cover so he can say to Americans "it would have been great but those deadbeat Eurotrash screwed it all up
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Cephei1016 days ago
+30
Obviously smart to avoid the huge pile of human shit trump left on the dinner table.
F****** clown show buffoons.
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IntelligentPeace15576 days ago
+30
I'm not a lover of Starmer but my God he's showing some balls. Keep refusing to help this warmongering piece of shit
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MerryWalrus6 days ago
+18
I thought Trump wanted the UKs help to open the strait?
The only way to win with Trump is to not play.
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IntelligentPeace15576 days ago
+10
The president bloke has totally lost the plot he's a danger to the whole world and himself. Time to lock him up I say
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johnnycyberpunk6 days ago
+2
> The only way to win with Trump is to not play.
Even if you back his play, you're still always looking over your shoulder for when he stabs you in the back or throws you under the bus.
Whatever helps *him*, whatever benefits *him* - he'll do. Even if it isolates him from his allies, business partners, lenders, creditors, employees, even family members.
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IIllIllIlllIIIl6 days ago
+16
UK should come back home to the EU
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-captaindiabetes-6 days ago
+13
I wish we would.
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Silicon_Knight6 days ago
+8
We're circling back to the tariffs again aren't we, only it's going to be a big ass table of "tolls" for ships with some countries paying millions and others paying nothing.
Good luck penguins on Norfolk Island, trump is going to charge all of your ships BILLIONS!
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seanmemebean6 days ago
+3
Donald Trump used to kiss his dad good night and also good morning.
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Constant_Section14916 days ago
+3
K see you in LieSocial.
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Romano166 days ago
+3
The UK should be closing its airspace.
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Ambitious-Parfait-296 days ago
+10
Where is the Board of Sh.... err Peace countries with their Temu warships when you need it? LOL
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Tinuva4506 days ago
+10
Hungary about to pull out now?
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fuers6 days ago
+5
I will say it too. The whole EU is not supporting this blockade. Neither the war against Iran.
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Serpentongue6 days ago
+1
Send a ship thru, don’t ask for permission. Call his bluff, he won’t sink you.
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DistanceToEmpty5 days ago
+1
NATO wouldn't help open the strait, NATO won't help close the strait... Trump visibly confused, beefs with the Pope and declares himself African Space Jesus. Is that the week so far?
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Loud_Industry_20446 days ago
-2
Too bad he won’t rejoin the EU
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Schyllion6 days ago
-6
then revoke access to your bases kier. the yanks simply being dicks and committing war crimes from them - why should the british we complicit with that. even f****** spain had a backbone.
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ContentsMayVary6 days ago
+4
I invite you to investigate whether Spain has kicked the Americans out of Naval Station Rota and Morón Air Base. (The bases are still open, but not allowed to be used for offensive operations against Iran.) Maybe I misunderstood you: Are you calling for the UK bases to be permanently closed, or just to restrict the use for Iranian operations?
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Schyllion6 days ago
iranian ops - as spain did.
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Shirolicious6 days ago
-4
Fair enough, UK and France want freedom of navigation and strictly want to focus on that. Not getting dragged into a war.
But, I wonder how this works in practice. Lets say that Iran does fire a missile and possibly sinks one boat. Defensive or not but then you are getting dragged into a war by Iran’s chosing whether you like it or not.
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Stephen17294 days ago
+1
Which is why e***** duty should not commence until there is a cease fire that is agreed and stable. It is not in Iran's interest to drag European powers into this war. But mistakes can happen
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Neither-Elevator-4256 days ago
-27
Yeah, ok, it seems the U.S. was right in asserting the inevitability of this war after Israel’s escalation. Iran’s wreaking havoc in the whole region, blocking the Strait driving up fuel costs, and this political jockeying for owning Trump is just emboldening Iran to keep at it. The UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc aren’t the U.S. or “Trump.” It seems European leadership could at least acknowledge the merits of military action at this point and the seriousness of Iran’s threats
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hagenissen9996 days ago
+23
You've got the sequence of events all wrong. US and Israel started this, without consulting allies. Then Iran retaliated and Trump filled his diaper again, while screaming at and insulting anyone that could help.
This is 100% Trump and Netanyahu's fault.
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jaydubyah1006 days ago
+17
The US escalated the situation alongside Israel. Those two nations wreaked havoc. Iran responded - That surprised no-one except the American government.
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Neither-Elevator-4256 days ago
-12
Iran responded by…wreaking havoc in the the whole region, attacking countries that are neither the U.S. and Israel.
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CrimsonAntifascist6 days ago
+15
They attacked nations hosting US military bases. And also just as a response to being attacked.
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_karma_collector6 days ago
-5
Let's be honest, they attack countries that has oil to raise oil price, regardless of whether they host US base or not.
Do they only attack US base in these country? No, they attack oil factories as well.
Do US army even use these bases? No, GCC officially refuse that, at least before they have to reconsider their stance, as Iran attack their civilain infrastructure as well.
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CrimsonAntifascist6 days ago
+9
Let's be *real* honest here.
They attacked because they were attacked. Does the regime deserve to be brought down? F*** yes.
Is bombing a girls school, and threatening a genocide the right way? Hell no.
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_karma_collector6 days ago
-7
That has nothing to do with GCC.
And be honest with yourself, do you really think Iran regime give a shit about that school girl, after their massacre of tens of thousands of protestors?
THEY . DON'T . CARE.
They are fighting for the regime's survival, not to revenge those kids. They even call their citizens for a meat dome around their infrastructure. They recruit 12 year old as meat shield.
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CrimsonAntifascist6 days ago
+7
Jeezuz, f***. We're really honest with ourselves today, aren't we?
It doesn't matter if the iranian regime doesn't care. You should care. I should care. We all should. Bombing a school and not even tying to put anyone on trial for a warcrime, only to commit another warcrime by bombing a bridge, should be the death sentence for the career and quite frankly, the commanding officer.
The USA are not the good guys here. Neither is the iranian government. There are only victims.
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_karma_collector6 days ago
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>The USA are not the good guys here. Neither is the iranian government. There are only victims.
Your comment doesn't imply that.
>They attacked nations hosting US military bases. And also just as a response to being attacked.
You are trying to justify Iran's terrorist actions, *just as a response to being attacked*. No, they are terrorists, there is no justified for their attack on unrelated neighbor. Trump is bad, we all know about that, but stop justify terrorism
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scytob6 days ago
+6
they are not justifying anything, they described the sequence of events accurately, thats it
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yosisoy6 days ago
-6
Why does Starmer keep commenting on this war?
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Bury_My_Mistakes6 days ago
-3
to distract from the fact that he's actually still helping US bomber planes to fly and refuel from UK bases like Fairford, and Brits would be livid if this became wider knowledge since fuel is £2 a liter
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chodgson6255 days ago
+1
In the 1960s PM Harold Wilson fought successfully to keep Britain out of the Vietnam war despite our massive reliance on US loans during constant sterling currency crises. No one remembers this because the price of avoiding Vietnam was Wilson had to avoid condemning Americans actions and conduct - and the far left and the right wing make sure that’s all that’s remembered about Harold Wilson and Britain’s complete non appearance in the Vietnam.
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Ultra_Metal6 days ago
-16
The UK lets IRGC members buy property in the UK. The cardboard supreme leader has a mansion there. Shame on the UK for protecting this evil regime. The UK is siding with evil and abandoning its values.
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the_drew6 days ago
+2
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Think_Ad_47986 days ago
-10
This article makes it seem the UK has something to contribute. The armed forces have been gutted by successive governments, they would to block the English Channel yet alone some far flung straight half the world away.
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