Kushner and Witkoff are not only inept , they have a clear conflict of interest
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MayorMcCheezzMar 17, 2026
+66
Kushner was in the ME asking for a 5 billion dollar investment in his PE firm at the same time he was supposed to be "negotiating".
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wzzm13weatherballMar 17, 2026
+36
Yeah I don’t think witkoff and kushner get enough flak from the press. Every scenario they have negotiated in has been a complete disaster that has lead to prolonged conflicts and new ones starting due to their failures.
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Unusualthoughts123Mar 17, 2026
+14
If the goal was to enrich themselves, is it really a “disaster?”
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EverythingGoodWasMar 18, 2026
+6
They aren’t negotiating, they’re soliciting bribes
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Dependent-Click-7024Mar 17, 2026
+13
Say it, I heard allegations that kushner was an Iraeli spy
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rTpureMar 17, 2026
+197
Netanyahu doesn't want a deal, regardless of what Iran offers
So US was not negotiating in good faith because there was zero chance of a deal to be made
It was just a facade until Israel was ready to start a war
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Im_better_than__uMar 17, 2026
+45
Irael was waiting for all the welfare weapons shipments from the U.S. to get delivered.
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Equivalent_Range6291Mar 17, 2026
+30
Israel waited until they knew that Khamenei was meeting with his officials as he normally done that day at his offices in downtown Iran, they were quite open about this, it was no great secret, why would it be .. they wernt at war & the negotiations they were involved in were going well.
On confirmation of the above Netanyahu rang Trump & told Trump "Attack now!"
Donald gave the order to the Aircraft in Iranian skies & the rest is history.
It was the cold blooded murder of the Iranian Spiritual Leader, both Donald & Netanyahu should be prosecuted for this because the World is looking on & asking the question well "How come *they* are above the law?" ..
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JimBeam823Mar 17, 2026
+2
I believe it was an Israeli strike that took out Khamenei, but they needed American firepower to do it.
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Equivalent_Range6291Mar 18, 2026
+1
Dont they always ..
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Embarrassed-Box-1106Mar 17, 2026
+4
And yet the world will say "the devilish Iran is this, the devilish Iran is that, does this and that, is a terror state etc.", look, I don't like Iran's goals and motivation, but I don't like the US and Israel's goals either, one is worse than the other
And I am sorry to say, but one party has CLEARLY been the worst for the longest time now.
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CreepyOlGuyMar 17, 2026
idk man, the internets still wondering if he's alive or dead since every video of him in last few days is AI slop.
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RG54415Mar 17, 2026
+8
What difference does it make. And Ideology doesn't die with a single person. Often replacements take over and go to even more extreme lengths in the name of the ideology.
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Embarrassed-Box-1106Mar 17, 2026
+2
Israel has done this in the past, to mock Iran's secret service, well it's not gonna be useful of a secret service due to Mossad infiltration.
Fake death, weird untrustworthy behaviour, videos, statements so obviously nonsense to indirectly confirm someone died, to only show real, believable proof no one died, and make fun of Iran
These are things not even the devil would think of.
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Far_Radish7752Mar 17, 2026
+136
From the article in The Guardian:
>Britain’s national security adviser, Jonathan Powell, attended the final talks between the US and Iran and judged that the offer made by Tehran on its nuclear programme was significant enough to prevent a rush to war, the Guardian can reveal.
>Powell thought progress had been made in Geneva and that the deal proposed by Iran was “surprising”, according to sources.
>Two days after the talks ended, and after a date had been agreed for a further round of technical talks in Vienna, the US and Israel launched the attack on Iran.
One can’t help, at this point, from being suspicious that the U.S. was not negotiating in good faith. They were merely biding time.
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DangerBay2015Mar 17, 2026
+58
I don't actually believe that this is the case. Trump does what's best for Trump, and what's best for Trump is his self-proclaimed "Art of the Deal." Being able to say Iran knuckled under and came to him, tears in their eyes, saying "Please, Mr. President, let us make a deal, you're much bigger and stronger and a better negotiator than us, we will do whatever you ask" is a better deal for Trump. It's absolutely terrible for Israel.
I believe that Israel knew that a deal was going close, and they dogwalked Trump into war by feeding him lies and bullshit, and basically said "we're doing this, you're either helping us, our we're making you look weak in front of the world." Not to mention cunts like Stephen Miller and the rest of the zionists like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz are all in the pocket of Israel and probably made his toddler brain think it was a good idea.
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HonestBalloonMar 17, 2026
+26
Isreali minsiter Yisreal Katz said this the other day;
'If we have protests in Iran, good'
'If we have regime change in Iran, good'
'If we destroy the place, also good'
'We do not care what the future of Iran holds'
They only ever had one objective with this operation, to leave Iran in a much much worse place than before it started, period. A deal would not have achieved this.
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JimBeam823Mar 17, 2026
+2
Which is not the same as even the most aggressive Neocons, like Lindsey Graham.
The Neocons want a friendly Iran, like they had under the Shah.
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Admirable_Program_13Mar 17, 2026
+5
Maybe there is another deal on another table?
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OnDrugsTonightMar 17, 2026
+5
Well, Netanyahu is on record [saying](https://www.jta.org/2021/06/02/israel/netanyahu-changed-the-way-americans-view-israel-but-not-always-in-the-way-he-wanted), "I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction". That was all the way back in 2001. If you combine that attitude with the world's most easily led man, Donald Trump, then yes, it's pretty much a given that when Israel says "jump", Trump asks "how high?". Trump's been dreaming of a foreign war anyway to distract from his domestic problems (and I specifically exclude the Epstein files from that). It would have taken very little arm-twisting to make Trump commit to an attack anywhere in the world, and Iran just happened to be the most obvious first choice. Cuba will obviously be next, considering how much that has been telegraphed already.
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Embarrassed-Box-1106Mar 17, 2026
+8
Not to forget Trump is probably being blackmailed by the Epstein gang into doing things and being led anyway
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roarjahMar 18, 2026
+1
I agree but I’d say the motivation was not to avoid looking weak but to feel powerful. Power for powers sake is how narcissist maniacs like Trump operate. Also, being the one to start the war gives him all the credit and control
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lostredditorlurkingMar 17, 2026
+13
Yeah there was a reason why all the top brass of Iran gathered in one place for the meeting. And then the US drops a bomb on them
Imagine if it was Russia doing that during a Zelensky meeting to end the war. Everyone would denounce them for doing so
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Vivid_Pianist4270Mar 17, 2026
+5
No big surprise there
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ThePlanckMar 17, 2026
+5
This is exactly why the war won't end any time soon. They have learnt that any agreement they might sign with the US, at least under Trump, isn't worth the paper it is written on, which removes any incentive for them to come to the table while Trump is President, I honestly have no idea how this ends:
1. Either Trump completely abandons the Middle East, destroying any US relationship with the other countries in the region, and leaving Israel and Iran lobbing rockets at each other (and who knows how that's going to end, given Israel have nukes they can use if they feel an existential threat)
2. This keeps going until Trump dies/is voted out and make a deal with the next president where they will drive a very hard bargain to prevent the US going back on its word
3. Eventually the Iranian population rises up and overthrows the regime, this won't happen any time soon as the regime has 1) more support than people in the west realize, 2) just killed a big chunk of the opposition, 3) the opposition right now is just trying to survive the bombings and are not going to be out there organizing any time soon, 4) the rally around the flag effect due to the country getting bombed, particularly the cities where the opposition tends to live.
4. If they still have the capabilities, they are going to use the chaos of this war to try to rush to nukes and then start negotiating as that will strengthen their position
5. A US (and anyone else who is going to go along with them) do a ground invasion to overthrow the regime
These are all going to either take a very long time (years) or are very undesirable outcomes
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Be_quiet_Im_thinkingMar 17, 2026
+3
Could be Israel knew how well the talks were going and wanted to eliminate that particular threat while they had space to.
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Sir0inks-A-LotMar 17, 2026
+4
It’s practically 100% guaranteed that Kushner and Witkoff have “friends” who are actually Israeli intelligence agents reporting back on how the negotiations were progressing. That doesn’t even account for the possibility that Mossad cracked their phones and were listening to the whole thing.
The USA is currently a vassal state to Israel.
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JimBeam823Mar 17, 2026
+1
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eXAt88Mar 17, 2026
+1
I swear it was reported earlier that somebody (I think on the Israeli side of things) just admitted that the US/Israel were negotiating in bad faith
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Hour-Passenger-8513Mar 17, 2026
+23
Powell’s presence at the talks, and his close knowledge of how they were progressing, was confirmed by three sources. One source said he was in the building at Oman’s ambassadorial residence in Cologny acting as an adviser, reflecting widespread concern about the US expertise on the talks represented by Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, Trump’s special envoy on several issues.
Kushner and Witkoff had invited Rafael Grossi, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), to the Geneva talks, to provide technical expertise, though Kushner would later claim that he and Witkoff had “a pretty deep understanding of the issues that matter in this”. Nuclear experts would later say that Witkoff’s pronouncements on the Iran nuclear programme were riddled with basic errors.
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Starbike666Mar 17, 2026
+41
History shows that when the USA has started moving massive amounts of military equipment into place, they ARE going to attack, and any negotiations they do are in bad faith. Negotiations at that point are just to distract the opponent, until they get all their pieces in place to launch an attack.
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[deleted]Mar 17, 2026
+21
Just like Russia.... or my 10 year old nephew in a game of Civ
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MikestophelesMar 17, 2026
+13
"Hey, I see you moving a bunch of units to by border... anything you wanna talk about?"
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mantis_toboggan__mdMar 17, 2026
+12
Wow that was actually a really good deal Iran had on the table. Trump could’ve actually won a nobel prize. I bet big ben has the epstein tapes
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wip30utMar 17, 2026
+5
it's quite obvious that the initial attack to wipe out top leadership of Iran (including the Supreme Leader) was made by Team Bibi and Trump alone. They really thought they had a kill shot that would topple the regime. Instead Iran's islamist junta turned out to be a multi-headed hydra that keeps on attacking. Trump is a gambler and he pulled the trigger without really knowing the oods & understanding the fallout. This is all on him, and I hope the voters remember this come November.
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Embarrassed-Box-1106Mar 17, 2026
+4
"Iran's Islamist junta" is still better than the hypocritical supremacist US and the literal destroyer of this world, Israel
But yea, Iran is bad too
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UmbramorsMar 17, 2026
+1
I have a general interest in world politics and was aware that would be a likely outcome. I refuse to believe the US Government is surprised by this.
More likely is that the experts warned Trump and his cronies, and they decided to ignore the warnings, because they wanted to play war for the photo ops
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invalidpasswordMar 17, 2026
+5
Trump just said yesterday he has the power to end the war whenever he wants. So what kind of game is he playing? Do women and children have less point value than fighting Iranians? I can't believe we put the livres of living humans in his tiny little hands.
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_goblinette_Mar 18, 2026
+1
>Trump just said yesterday he has the power to end the war whenever he wants
The thing is….he’s full of shit. It’s easy to *start* a war whenever you want, but ending it is out of his hands now.
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Any_Recognition_2532Mar 17, 2026
+5
Israel wanted this. Negotiations were just a show
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ProofByVerbosityMar 17, 2026
+3
You mean the new deal, right? Not the existing one Trump tore up?
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TheoremaEgregiumMar 17, 2026
+3
Israel had a project to take out the Iranian leadership. When they got intel that everybody would be in one place together with Khamenei they struck. And then the US felt they had to join in. Trump was to weak to stand up to Netanyahu. It had nothing to do with the nuclear negotiations.
They could have signed a deal about the nukes the day before and the war would still have started.
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JimBeam823Mar 17, 2026
+2
Which is why Netanyahu had to sabotage it.
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Sea_Quiet_9612Mar 17, 2026
+6
Witkoff et Kushner pour négocier quelle putain de blague ,les deux salopes Lobbyistes de l'AIPAC ils ne sont américains que sur le papier leur intérêt c'est Israël ,on ne fait pas mieux comme traîtres et manipulateurs
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DrekkfulMar 17, 2026
+6
This is bullshit to keep the market happy. Iran will never trust the US or Israel again without significant involvement of China/Russia in the negotiations. US "diplomats" have pretended to negotiate *and then attack* Iran twice in this last year. The 12 day war and this one too.
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bajesusMar 17, 2026
+17
This story is about the meetings from before the war started. It's Powell saying they had a good deal in place to prevent all this but ignored it and attacked anyway.
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untamedlazyeyeMar 17, 2026
+6
Yeah if anything, this is throwing the US further under the bus (for good reason)
I think history will eventually show that this war happened **because** a deal was within reach, and Netanyahu could not accept that. Netanyahu knew that if that deal was reached, and then the midterms go like everyone is expecting them to go, Netanyahu will be shit out of luck. He kicked off his war to save his own skin, and Trump was f****** dumb enough to go along with it.
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Tik__TikMar 18, 2026
+1
We had a deal. Trump threw it out.
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FrodoFragginsMar 17, 2026
-9
Meh. The UK doesn't care if Iran finally gets nukes. The also don't care if Iran keeps funding and arming terror cells.
I don't think a deal was close to securing those two things. That doesn't justify conducting the war the way they did though and there's no doubt that Israel wants Iran's leadership destroyed. And frankly I'd love to see a true democracy separate from religion take hold.
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UmbramorsMar 17, 2026
+3
Iran tried it once, but when they tried to nationalize their resources, the US got upset and forced a regime change. Go figure
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