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Disc0Disc0Disc0 May 12, 2026 +58

... when the war is over

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itsatumbleweed May 12, 2026 +16

So far that's the only commitments the US and Israel can get. "End this and we will help open things"

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Kdave21 May 12, 2026

Can the British economy survive longer than the American economy without oil. I imagine their actions will become more impactful the more they feel the effects

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Chimpville May 13, 2026 +2

Probably not, but does that make a difference to the response? The strait cannot be forced open. Trying will just push things back even further. Everybody is forced to wait until the US admin realises it has no more moves to play before trying to give both idiotic parties an off ramp in the form of multinational reassurance mission.

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Disc0Disc0Disc0 May 12, 2026 +1

Ok thats what I said

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Crim3mast3rZ May 12, 2026 +5

Learned from the best in the world wars

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JarvisModeOn May 12, 2026 +1

Makes sense given how much shipping depends on Hormuz, but it also shows how fragile this ceasefire is. Mine-hunting gear and warships are defensive, but one mistake in that area can escalate fast.

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wrghf May 12, 2026 -4

I think it’s interesting how a war of aggression against Iran is suddenly being framed as a “defence mission”. It has feelings of “special military operation” to me.

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Tuinomics May 12, 2026 +10

Because Iran is firing on almost everyone in the region, not just the US/Israel, including civilian cargo and energy ships. It doesn’t take a genius to understand why these are defensive missions.

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psyon May 12, 2026 +9

The international community does not recognize Iran as having control of the strait. When Iran decided to shut down the strait, it became necessary to defend it.

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ftd123 May 13, 2026 +3

Maybe we just have to wait for Iran to present their novel legal justification as to why they control they straight, and wait for higher courts to pass down the judgement in time. We can always just agree on a settlement after the fact, if it turns out it was not theirs all along. /sarcasm

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DDoubleDDog May 12, 2026 -2

Iran started this war on Oct. 7. Iran and its proxies are the aggressors and they are guilty of mass murder, torture, r***, kidnapping, war crimes and child abuse.

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jrr123456 May 12, 2026 -4

Israel started it in the 1940s.

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DDoubleDDog May 12, 2026 +5

Arab nations started that war by invading Israel. If you want we can go all the way back to the time when the Arab Caliphates stole the Jewish homeland as well as the homelands of many other people and colonized them with their own settlers and forced people to convert to Islam. No matter which way you look at it, Israel is the defending nation. You are distorting history.

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golden18lion77 May 13, 2026 -2

F*** Israel and it's supporters.

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Jamuro May 12, 2026 +1

it isn't this is for after the war is concluded ... for stuff like mine sweeping

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SneakT May 12, 2026 -5

But this time countries that denounce “special military operation” going to conduct it. Hillarious.

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BruceForsyth55 May 12, 2026 +3

Oh look an actual pro Putin rando popping in to attempt irony and this one isn’t a bot.

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SneakT May 13, 2026 +1

What the actuall f***? How did you conclude that I'm pro Putin?

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nediamnori May 12, 2026 -2

The US attack on Iran is very similar to the "special military operation". Which is why very few countries helped the US. But Iran has no right to control the strait so this will be a much easier sell. Imagine if Ukraine decided to mine and blow up the Bosporus to stop Russian ships. Even Ukraine’s allies would have a hard time defending that.

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WhatMeeWorry May 12, 2026 -28

There is a way to open Hormuz without a battle. Many will not like it but it will work quite easily: Denuclearize the middle east, have both Iran AND Israel give up their nuclear material.

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Eatpineapplerightnow May 12, 2026 +21

Great! whats the first step?

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apathetic_revolution May 12, 2026 +6

I'm putting together a team. We're going to steal all the fissile material from the Middle East. So far I've got me, Danny Ocean, Carmen Sandiego, and Apu.

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SpleenBender May 12, 2026 +3

You son of a b****, I'm in.

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Eatpineapplerightnow May 12, 2026 +2

Bring OP!

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OP_Skis_In_Jeans May 12, 2026 +13

Go back to the lab and come up with a workable solution instead of this pie-in-the-sky pipe dream in which facts don't matter for starters...

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Rassomir May 12, 2026 +5

Have we tried.... thoughts and prayers yet?

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OP_Skis_In_Jeans May 12, 2026 +18

Oh boy where to even start on this one... First, Israel maintains a policy of nuclear ambiguity, so for this to happen Israel would have to acknowledge having nukes in the first place which it will almost certainly not do. Second, Iran does not have nukes, so the deal would be fundimentally uneven in Iran's favor. Third, what kind of security guarantees would be provided and who would enforce them? Both Iran and Israel have regional enemies besides each other (and the US in Iran's case) and any denuclearization deal is likely to embolden those enemies. Fourth, given what happened to Ukraine, no country will likely even consider giving up nukes unless they have no other option. Who would put this level of pressure on Iran or Israel? There are many more problems with this plan, but that's enough for now. The fact you describe your solution as "easy" shows conclusively that you have no idea what you're talking about in terms of ME geopolitics.

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Darkone539 May 12, 2026 +1

Israel don't even admit they have nuclear weapons. How can we be sure they are all gone?

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karateninjazombie May 12, 2026 -1

Oh ffs! Some thing we really don't want to be getting involved in. But our useless politicians won't listen to us the people when they join in with colossal f*** ups like this.

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Chimpville May 13, 2026 +1

This isn’t joining. It’ll only happen when the US stops antagonising and the IRGC stop reacting. It’s giving both sides an off-ramp.

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shab3ng May 12, 2026 -6

Genuine question what ship they can realistically deploy?

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olderlifter99 May 12, 2026 +8

Its in the article

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UK to send warship, jets to join Hormuz defense mission

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