I guess Orban's fat behind was blocking the line ...
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Bane_of_Balor4 days ago
+14
What's annoying is that some people seem to think that Ukraine was somehow wrong for putting economic pressure on a regime that was openly hostile to them...
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Infodataplace4 days ago
+8
what’s interesting here is that Druzhba isn’t just any pipeline, it’s one of the main routes for Russian crude into Central Europe, especially for countries like Hungary and Slovakia that are still heavily dependent on it
so when it goes down, it’s not just a supply issue, it immediately turns into a political one inside the EU, exemptions, veto threats, funding leverage, all of that
Ukraine fixing it looks “technical,” but it actually stabilizes a pretty fragile balance between sanctions and energy reality
kind of shows how even during a war, infrastructure like this keeps everyone tied together whether they like it or not
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Electrical-Lab-95934 days ago
+5
this is also a test of leverage now with these countries, Ukraine has shown they will be reasonable, but also will not back down in the face of threats from hostile leaders
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Neat-Rent74674 days ago
+7
Unfortunate that they were forced to do so by the EU. Isn't it ironic that the EU is still giving money to Russia for oil despite funding Ukraine. I get why but holy hell, it's dissapointing.
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Bane_of_Balor4 days ago
+8
It sure would be nice if they could get oil and gas from somewhere else. Like, I dunno, somewhere in the middle east? I'm sure no idiot would rush in there and kick the hornets nest with no plan, blocking oil & gas exports right?
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Neat-Rent74674 days ago
+8
I know you joke but the foresight that Merkel and other world leaders lacked is astounding. Instead of reducing their reliance to Russian oil in 2014, they increased it by a lot. Instead of importing more oil or creating better oil trade routes from places like Norway and maybe LNG from Canada and the USA they decided to depend themselves on their primary adversary for c**** oil. Now they're in this situation. Oil supply lines take a while to create, and given unfortunate circumstances, if they decided to diversify their oil supply more they would have been hit less hard by 2022 and now the Iran conflict. But they didn't.
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Zixinus3 days ago
+1
The issue is how such dependencies and business like this was seen.
Back then, it was seen that Europe buying Russian oil would mean that Russia would seek to be a good business partner and be reluctant to endanger that cash flow.
Russia seen it as leverage to use against Europe if needed and as a point of leverage over Europe.
Russia in this calculation proved correct.
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Bane_of_Balor4 days ago
+4
Well, duh. Why would you actively help a regime that has consistently obstructed aid to your country and has done everything in it's power to assist the country you're currently fighting a war with?
Ukraine is fighting for it's right to exist, but they should compromise their efforts in an attempt to appear apolitical?
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susrev884 days ago
+2
can't blame him. on the short term it's shit for hungarians but on long term it's good for everyone that orbán is gone.
having said that, politicians are politicians, don't look for morals.
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InitialSeat894 days ago
-2
Then take a stand and don’t lie?
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johnbobk3 days ago
+1
Brilliant, what a clever triangle of solutions
Zelenskyy cleverly held out [repairing the pipeline] for the election result; & now gets his - EU $ support.
Magyar gets his gas as an election reward.
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