Sanctions lifted on oil? You need to be able to export, transport, refine, and produce it first.
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TheAngryGoat22 hr ago
+72
There's no sanction more effective and satisfying than a kinetic sanction!
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matdan1221 hr ago
+17
Russia isn't selling much in the way of refined oil, throughout the war they've been selling diesel through the shadow fleet. If Ukraine can keep Russia's oil terminals offline that'll cripple most of their transports, much harder to stop road, and rail.
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Plenty_Beautiful_5471 day ago
+114
F*** that shit up 💥
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Complete-Sort16171 day ago
+139
God, it’s just never enough though.
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keepitfriend1 day ago
+35
Oh Putin is worried
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DeeDee_Z1 day ago
+30
Yeah, this. If you have 100 of something, and you only really need 12, you can lose 75 and nobody notices.
Which baffled me for a long time. We've been knocking out oil refineries for a LONG time. But not enough (yet) to noticeably curtail enemy advances.
We've been knocking out "ammo dumps" week in, week out for the first 2½ years (not so much recently). But not enough (yet) to noticeably curtail enemy advances.
We've been knocking out [________] (fill in the blank yourself!) left and right. But not enough (yet) to noticeably curtail enemy advances.
There's only "long-term" good news. They longer they bleed out, the more difficult it becomes for Russia to **do this again next time**. And THAT is CERTAINLY part of the strategy.
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Master_Dogs23 hr ago
+45
From the article though, they've been able to hit a good chunk of their infrastructure:
> In March, long-range Ukrainian drone attacks and shadow fleet tanker seizures reportedly disabled about 40% of Russia's oil export capacity.
That's pretty solid. Not enough yet, but it'll likely limit their ability to raise funds, which will mean over time less money to spend on troops, missiles, drones, etc.
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DeeDee_Z23 hr ago
+15
Absolutely true!
And there -will- come a time when they do NOT in fact have "enough" of whatever to continue as they are doing today.
THAT'S what they mean when they talk about "failing slowly, then suddenly" -- there IS a cliff that they will fall over. And we're not there yet.
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kagoolx10 hr ago
+1
Yeah I think the same. But it must be having a real tangible effect on the war by now. Factories disrupted, financial challenges and similar will be influencing what they can mobilise and bring to the front line in real terms.
The snowball effect must be huge. A lot of these things aren’t getting fully repaired any time soon, and it will all mean extra pressure and reliance on the ones that remain operational. Let’s hope it really starts to affect the war effort in bigger terms soon
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Leading-Carrot-598323 hr ago
+14
Compared to what though? Had all of these things not been done to hamper Russian advances then they likely would have made much more ground.
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DeeDee_Z22 hr ago
+13
Perhaps there was greater / long-term strategic reasoning at play.
If «somebody, somehow» had kicked their butt in March of 2022 ... four years later, they'd • **still have 1,320,000 soldiers** available to launch the next invasion; they'd • **still have 11,800 tanks** available to launch the next invasion; they'd • **still have 40,000 artillery systems** available to launch the next invasion; they'd • **still have 33 warships** (including an aircraft carrier and TWO submarines) available to launch the next invasion; and they'd **still have gazillions of roubles** in their national wealth fund to spend on other wartime goodies; etc, etc.
Having Russia weakened to the point where they CANNOT come back in another 2-3 years and do the whole thing over again -- which they ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE DONE -- is of **considerable** long-term value.
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LLJKCicero9 hr ago
+1
>Which baffled me for a long time. We've been knocking out oil refineries for a LONG time. But not enough (yet) to noticeably curtail enemy advances.
What will happen first is stress on the wider economy and especially government budget.
And Russian advances have absolutely been getting slower.
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Ambitious_Dingo_27981 day ago
+6
Yes good
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Pendraconica1 day ago
+2
How many has it been in the last week?
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hornswoggled11117 hr ago
+2
Ukrainian strikes on Russian strategic assets doubled in feb. Then doubled in mar. Whatever found their way toward the right technology at scale. Russia will have to accept a massive step down in fossil fuel products even at the current rate.
And I hope for a few more months of doubling.
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National-Two24171 day ago
+62
Keep it up Ukraine, eventually the Ruzzians will go broke and their citizens will revolt when they cant get food or vodka... right?
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Key-Rough-83461 day ago
+27
They won’t revolt. But there will come a point when they can no longer send bodies at Ukraine.
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Falsus16 hr ago
They might.
Just that it might not result in anything better.
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RyuichitheGreat22 hr ago
+9
The russians probably wont revolt, they have passive slave mentality and they are too afraid to do anything
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EkstraOst11 hr ago
If even ‘the brave and the free’ are terrified of protesting to stop a childraping warmonger, then I’m not sure what you expect from other nations
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TheAngryGoat22 hr ago
+2
Sure, if they find a way to grow spines before that.
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Ok_Jeweler104420 hr ago
+4
Dont forget his buddy trump and republicans lol
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doalwa1 day ago
+15
You just love to see it!
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CordwainerMudworble1 day ago
+23
Them Ukrainians doing a fine job 👏
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hazeleyedwolff1 day ago
+20
So now that we've lifted sanctions on Russian oil, how long until Trump declared these strikes a hostile act against the US, and now we're on Russia's side of this war?
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needlestack21 hr ago
+15
We’re already on Russias side by refusing to condemn their aggression, refusing to adequately support Ukraine, and pushing for a “peace” without justice. The US hasn’t a shred of fake moral high-ground left.
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robikscubedroot11 hr ago
+2
Somehow out of all possible options they could have taken, USA chose to announce they would like to annex Greenland 🤡
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Harry_The-Bastard21 hr ago
+5
🔥Burn baby burn🔥 🕺
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DennisMoves20 hr ago
+5
Against all odds Ukraine is going to win this war. You can directly be a part of this by giving to United 24. I'm the #2 US identified giver on the app at the moment with 1325 points. #24 in the world. I've given a decent amount of money but I'm basically an average Joe. F****** pathetic how people do not put their money where their mouth is.
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Bozrud18 hr ago
+2
Yeah. It’s crazy. If all people that support Ukraine on words had donated to the United24 this war would be over.
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DJMhat1 day ago
+2
Oh this is also going on....
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amx-002_neue-ziel22 hr ago
+1
How many football fields of oil is that?
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DaySecure764221 hr ago
+1
Special military operations to impose one-sided oil sanctions on Russia.
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Queltis600020 hr ago
+1
I'd love an ELI5 from someone far more knowledgeable than myself:
These refineries and other logistics sites seemingly get hit every day or close to it. Given how much time, money and manpower it takes to fix these sites, how is this not affecting Russia even more than it is? How the hell do they keep running a country on top of the monumental losses and (rapidly) declining work force that pays taxes?
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hornswoggled11117 hr ago
+3
The last two months, Ukraine had doubled their attacks on infrastructure. Each month. And it's showing up in an article like this. The same rapid scale up of damage is happening to their shit defense as well.
Hopefully they double for a couple more months and knock Russia back to just being the neighborhood drunk.
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ClearStoneReason19 hr ago
+2
no expert but they did accumulate lots of reserves, but they will be empty eventually
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Candid_Cat_592119 hr ago
+1
It seems like the tide of war has definitely changed in Ukraine. Russian options seem limited. They’ve already thrown so many soldiers into the meat grinder. Their only hope is probably tactical nukes or chemical weapons, but I doubt they are willing to risk the potential of such attacks pulling other nations into direct combat.
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DoNotDareToBanMe19 hr ago
-1
We are getting rid of oil for good now?
-1
lamin-ceesay1 day ago
-51
It's hard to sympathise with Russia as they started the war with Ukraine, and at the same time, Iran just blocked the Strait of Hormuz. I mean, energy bills around the world are skyrocketing. Please, could we give peace another chance ✌️?
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keepitfriend1 day ago
+68
Sure whenever Russia stops?
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VagueSomething1 day ago
+31
USA and Russia need to accept defeat. Both are failing their aggression objectives.
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Under_Over_Thinker1 day ago
+25
Yeah. Somehow sympathizing with Russia is not on my to-do list today
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CordwainerMudworble1 day ago
+25
Ukraine has been, and always will be, the first to sit at the peace table.
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dunneetiger1 day ago
+4
I think Russian stood Ukraine up on their peace date.
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Plastic-Fox029319 hr ago
+5
Peace is a great idea. Russia should leave Ukraine immediately so we can have it.
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