Ukraine to help open Strait of Hormuz as part of Gulf weapons deals, Zelensky says

"We don't need his stuff. America has the best, most beautifull weapons, a lot of weapons, very powerfull weapons. What kind of cards does he thinks he has ?"

Rubio already complained about it.

I’ll take that bet after 4:10 ET on Friday.

What he should say is, "Since Trump is incapable of opening it, we'll give you a hand doing it"

Nah Trump will say Putin is already working with Rubio on this

"You see, even Ukraine offers us gifts. Beautiful gifts. The best gifts. Ukraine knows this administration is powerful."

I’m betting that it will more than a fit and he probably will blame NATO and forget that Ukraine is not part of it.

Ukraine will teach the US how to do $100 drones not $10,000 drones. I think thats a fair deal, someone tell Trump quick that this is the best deal of the century.

Is there a polymarket pool on it yet?

Sadly, Trump doesn’t have the cards.

Putins got the tapes

It can be. But considering the fact that Iran has supplied Russia during their war against Ukraine, Ukraine taking this stance isn't really surprising.

Not in this case, Russia and Iran were already on the same side so Ukraine has nothing to lose. Iran has been supplying Russia with Shahed drones to use against Ukraine

It's simpler than that. Zelensky is a great leader while the rest of Europe is run by a bunch of Neville Chamberlains who like to appease tyrants and terrorists.

Only if the people in charge are cunts

Only with US is is.

Never thought I would see Ukraine savage both Russia and the US at the same time.

Not according to the prez

It's covered in shit, and guess who was throwing shit at all of his allies all last year?

turns out geopolitics is geographical, isn't it. Sometimes even just a small road everyone passes thru.

Only when you're trying to be a dictator.

He's contributing to world peace more than anyone else. He and the Ukraininans had been shielding Europe from a lot of suffering, and now he's contributing to stabilizing things in the middle east by providing defensive measures and expertise against Iran attacking every western-aligned nation around them. He definitely deserves an award for that. Edit: please remind me who makes the Shahed drones that land on Ukrainian cities and [maternity hospitals.](https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-drones-kill-four-ukraine-damage-key-infrastructure-maternity-hospital-2026-03-28/)

Trump will throw him under the bus the second he doesn't need him.

Trump will play it down and betray any deal, I garan-f******-tee it.

He won't, Trump doesn't want Zelensky to succeed, least of all at his expense. If Ukraine did manage to do it, Trump would f*** him over at the first opportunity.

Did he say thank you though?

“Who’s saying thank you now???”

Now he and president Trump can play UNO

Simple trick to fix that: "You're not holding the cards, we hold all the cards. Could you at least have worn a suit to show respect?"

Going for the complete 100% playthrough

Well, Vance doesn't have the time; he's too busy thanking Peter Thiel

Gulf countries have a lot of thank yous in their bank accounts

Bots as in paid propaganda agents whose funding comes from their government. Theyre the ones manning the artillery in this cyber warfare

Genuinely curious of what comments you’re referring to because I’m not seeing any.

I’m seeing a lot of Israeli bots too. Pain in the ass with all the misinformation

They also don't want it open because it will pressure more countries to find alternative oil suppliers. Oh dear, did Trump just help Russia again? Say it ain't so!

NATO is a defensive alliance. And no formal request for help has been made. Right? /s

What’s the point of controlling these countries if you can’t extract the resources from them? with Iran in control of the straits, they are the ones who will exercise control over the gulf states. These countries will simply cease to exist if the straits are closed indefinitely.

Oman is no longer neutral after the Islamic Republic attacked them several times.

They can do both Zelensky is effectively out-military complexing the USA. A lot of capital in the stock market is from these Arab countries, and an infusion of cash in Ukraine would be really valuable

He knows his situation better. This gets him incredibly powerful allies. End of story. 

They literally are running out of space to store their domestically produced drones. They aren't short of them at all.

I think he knows how to handle this better than any of us

There's always a cost analysis above which it becomes worth it. e.g. let's say each soldier is worth 5000 of some currency unit per month and needs 1000 units of currency of equipment (drones) and a Gulf country would like a team of Ukrainian soldiers and drones that ends up at 15000 and 3000 each (three times the other numbers) then the first 5000 and 1000 brings them back to even, the next pays for a replacement extra soldier and equipment, and the final gets them an additional soldier and equipment more than they would have had otherwise. They end up with twice the number of that unit of soldiers and equipment on the battlefield with an extra one in the Gulf carrying out the country's interests as well.

Ukraine IS keeping their weapons. They are sending specialists to the strait, not weapons.

They are offering drones, trainers, software. The sea drones only have so much use now, the anti drone drones are mass produced, trainers they have plenty, software is just software. They are putting their military needs at any risk while either getting equipment they are short on or more importantly financing they desperately need.

I think Ukraine understands the situation better than you do.

They don’t. It’s a compromise. The M.E countries are firing high performance interceptor missiles at any threat, be it ballistic missiles or slow shahed drones. Ukraine is getting good at defeating drones with cheaper options and saving the high performance missiles for higher level threats. They have to do this because there’s a shortage of them and resupply is sparse. If the M.E is using them in large numbers as well it means even less chance of resupply for Ukraine. Ukraine is sending some troops who know how to deal with lower level threats level drone threats to teach the ME countries so that they hopefully get more high performance missiles to defend against Russia’s ballistic/hypersonic weapons.

Probably not, no

Money

Money helps them. Usa pulling weapons from Ukraine to fight there own wars hurts them

It’s a mitigating a loss. As an example: Patriot missiles are being used by Ukraine and the ME countries to defend their countries. They are being produced in small numbers. Ukraine has gotten good at only firing Patriots at ballistic/hypersonic Russian weapons and using cheaper domestic stuff on Shahed drones. Sparing some troops to teach the ME how to do this hopefully means more Patriots for Ukraine which are desperately needed.

money and target practice.

Its in his interests for oil to flow from the middle east and not russia

Ukraine needs fuel. The other states need drones and drone defences. Each can provide the other with what they need. Win:win. Strategically, Ukraine is providing the USA's allies with what they need, when they need it, demonstrating themselves to be loyal allies of the USA. Meanwhile Russia, which keeps trying to seduce Trump to see the Ukraine war its way, is providing Iran with drone parts and targeting intelligence on US forces and their allies' assets in the region. If Zelensky doesn't demonstrate loyalty to Trump, Trump may, despite Russia's support to Iran, take Russia's side in the Ukraine war in order to keep oil prices under control while he prosecutes the war on Iran, which would be the worst possible outcome for Zelensky and his European allies. 

Iranian drones have been killing Ukrainians for a long time. Hurting Iranian regime back for helping Russia is good.

Many deals can be made, such as money but also stuffs like "we'll help you with drones and you'll help us with missiles". Also the total amount of missile interceptors are limited and thus reducing demand in the middle east lets more go to Ukraine. The big thing here is that Ukraine relies on US (also other NATO countries) intelligence to conduct their drone strikes on Russia which have been targeting oil/export infrastructure but said intelligence may be pulled if oil price pressures rise too highly and there are some reports that they've been pressured to step it down a bit. Iirc they recently hit some ports causing a temporary 40% decrease in exports but don't quote me. Before the war they had been focusing more on ships as that was one of the bottlenecks Russia had but now that the strait is closed suddenly there are a bunch of ships available so they switched to a new bottleneck.

Countless Ukrainian civilians have been killed by drones directly supplied from Iran btw.

They are directly affected, if strait is closed, Oil goes up, Russia makes more money, more difficult for Ukraine to fight a funded Russia.