Didn't this guy tell Ukraine six months ago they were losing and they should accept a deal?
[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/us-army-secretary-warned-ukraine-imminent-defeat-pushing-initial-peace-rcna245704](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/us-army-secretary-warned-ukraine-imminent-defeat-pushing-initial-peace-rcna245704)
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g0ggy5 hr ago
+63
Pretty sure you can presume that anyone speaking officially for the US noawadays is first and foremost a Trump mouthpiece, but you know broken clocks and all that.
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Random-Mutant5 hr ago
+29
And by Trump mouthpiece you mean Putin mouthpiece.
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texo_optimo4 hr ago
+1
equally mouthpieces and DUI hires.
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pongomanswe4 hr ago
+1
Not sure if you mistakenly wrote DUI (driving under influence) instead of DEI (Diversity, equity and inclusion) but both are equally appropriate under this admin
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texo_optimo4 hr ago
+1
DUI was intentional. For someone who hated his older alcoholic brother so much, he sure surrounds himself with a bunch of drunks.
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Hogglespock4 hr ago
+1
Look at the war maps, and see the change in territory over the last 6 months. You don’t have to write the response here but just draw a line as to where, if crossed, they’d have been better off taking the deal.
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CageHanger3 hr ago
+1
This guy thinks a reliable deal with russia is possible 🤣
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Prestigious_Load16993 hr ago
+1
So how does the war end?
No deal ever?
Complete Ukrainian conquest all the way to Moscow?
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-aataa-3 hr ago
+1
The deal available six months ago would have meant Ukraine losing a LOT more territory AND the ability to defend the rest. It would have been suicidal to take the deal that was offered.
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steve_ample5 hr ago
+37
Efficiency and making do in an environment where support is tenuous and unpredictable naturally means integration.
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Full_metal_pants0775 hr ago
+34
Forced adaption will do that. Other nations, like my own, are in the same if not worse boat (see rubber dingy)
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rizzyrogues5 hr ago
+22
“When I served in the military, the mantra was ‘shoot, move and communicate,’”
I feel like this is still the mantra considering we bombed a bunch of school kids on day 1 of iran
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soggyarsonist5 hr ago
+21
I guess when your military is very powerful it's easier to get away with sloppy work since there are few consequences.
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Full_metal_pants0775 hr ago
+2
Whomdoes it first and better will always be the survivor. Mission command FTW.
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PoolRamen5 hr ago
An unfortunate case of outdated intel. The school \*was\* an active part of an IRGC facility which surrounds it, but that part was turned into a school later.
The reaction would, I suspect, be a little bit different from the Iranian authorities had they even knowingly struck an on-base school at a US airbase.
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PM_HORSEDONGS4 hr ago
+1
From my understanding it was a school for over 12 years, so crazy outdated
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3050_mjondalen4 hr ago
+1
Ye, this is true. Fact is though, they could have checked public info and they would have noticed that it was now used as a school. That is just sloppy, and could have been easily avoided
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deaglebingo4 hr ago
+1
which is why they gutted the civilian protection office in the pentagon first, yes. https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/03/us-civilian-casualties-iran/686292/
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PoolRamen4 hr ago
+1
No doubt. A colossal blunder is a colossal blunder - especially assuming it was someone trusting Palantir wholesale (all the more ironic given Karp's statements).
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Current_Delay11033 hr ago
+1
Could have been done on purpose considering Hegseths narrative. Apparently a lot of IRGC officers children attented that school.
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PoolRamen3 hr ago
+1
Yeah nah
What total shit have you been reading my dude
oh wait
we're on listnook
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Prestigious_Load16993 hr ago
+1
What purpose would it serve to deliberately slaughter 200 Iranian schoolchildren?
I operate on the assumption it was a tragic (and avoidable) mistake.
“Hegseth is evil” is an insufficient response for me, by the way.
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ihedenius5 hr ago
+6
Lauding something not Trump, he's not long for his post.
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ocean-gazer934 hr ago
+1
Necessity is the mother of innovation
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OddCupcake83 hr ago
+1
Turns out real innovation happens when your survival depends on it.
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the_fools_brood4 hr ago
+1
And this is real reason no one wants to stop the war. It's a proving ground for all the defense contractors. We really need to cease production of all the antiquated systems we currently employ. Ukraine has shown, and Iran to a smaller degree, drones and less man intensive weapons are the future
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Prestigious_Load16993 hr ago
+1
From a cold geopolitical perspective, the continuance of the war also serves us by weakening a primary antagonist while costing us very little.
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hiricinee3 hr ago
+1
Us should quit NATO and just form an alliance directly with Ukraine.
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