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Old-Glass-6967 1 day ago +420

Their special operation isn’t going very well

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noir_lord 1 day ago +257

It’s like Day 1500 and something of not going very well. If I’d had 1500 bad days in a row I’d maybe look at the way I’m doing things. The stupid part is they can stop this any time by just leaving, Ukraine doesn’t have that option.

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Electromotivation 1 day ago +52

They should turn on their commanders instead of willingly marching to die. Of course they shouldnt sign up and should turn on Putin as well, but that might be too much to ask the cowed serfs.

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Ar4er13 1 day ago +29

Why turn on your commander, if you can get lucky, get your sentence revoked, come back to your home village 5000km away from Ukraine, cut off your neighbour's head with an axe and go back to prison where you started?

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Hot_Charity_4803 22 hr ago

Is this a reference to something?

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Ar4er13 22 hr ago +3

There are over 200 murder cases in Russia's last 2 years (that they themself report), done by ex-convicts who got released due to being drafted to war, go pick any one and it will likely feature the murder of a neighbour with an axe \ knife or a chair. Extra points if children found victim's head in the yard.

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Hot_Charity_4803 22 hr ago +2

Damn that's horrible

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SidewalkRacoon 1 day ago +12

There are towns in the occupied zone of Ukraine where all the factories have been shut down and the only way to make money to feed your kids is to join the Russian army. The far east end of Ukraine near Russia doesn’t have a strong sense of Ukrainian nationality. They either dont feel this is particularly traitorous or they literally have no other choice. Russia is waging a war on Ukrainians using Ukrainians. And you know they’re using them as front line fodder

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Desertcow 1 day ago +6

That was already tried back when Wagner launched their coup a while ago. It failed, the mercs got reassigned to frontline units to go die, and Wagner's head got killed

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idryss_m 1 day ago +9

I feel they really didn't try that hard with that while coup thing...

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Equivalent-Rice8083 1 day ago +2

It's awful what russia is doing. But calling a serf a coward is just... Lame. If you see a poor broke serf with no options and if he accepts going to the military which will almost garaunted going to the front line and takes drone to the face. They're being used as cannon fodder, and know theyre being used as cannon fodder. That's not a coward. It's just a poor serf. Probably with very little education. And why the West needs to actually arm Ukraine to end this or get directly involved. At this point it feels like Ukraine/Russia is just background noise in the West. And the way Europe sees Russia as a direct threat at their doorstep, I don't know why they're p**** footing around

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Bunch_of_Shit 1 day ago +11

Pro russian account on twitter said Putin never gave a timeline for how long the war would take, and that it’s perfectly fine if it went on for many more years as long as the objectives are achieved, which, I guess, is to just seize territory and move in russian settlers. Sounds familiar.

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jakes1993 1 day ago +13

1523 days so far after I google searched it since feb 23,2022

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Sislar 17 hr ago +1

Trump was so jealous of Putin he was like. I want some of that and attacks Iran.

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Citizen-Kang 1 day ago +14

I think we can drop the "special" and put in "sub-standard" or "stupid" in its place.

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hazelnutcocoammm 1 day ago +3

It ain't special anymore

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Beautiful_Finger4566 1 day ago +1

Let's go. In and out. 20 minute adventure.

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MrDerpGently 1 day ago +127

Makes sense, the US just gave Russia a hall pass to sell oil. That money will directly fund war against Ukraine, and at peak rates thanks to Iran. Russian oil infrastructure just became a primary objective for anything Ukraine can throw at it.

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Electromotivation 1 day ago +46

We f****** suck rn. At least some american weapons are still coming in as part of old contracts. But Trump better realize he just blew half our air interceptors in a two week war. Sure could use lots of guidance, tips, and technology from those "no cards" having Ukrainians eh Trump?

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FluffyGreenThing 1 day ago +27

Zelensky offered to work with the US military and share some of Ukraine’s hard earned expertise and drone technology but Trump basically spat in his face and said the US wasn’t interested so Ukraine went to the individual countries in the middle east and made agreements with them instead. Now Trump has even less pull in the middle east because the US was supposed to defend those countries. It was just lies from Trump of course since Trump took bribes from them all then just turned around and blew everything up by attacking Iran with zero forethought or insight into the potential consequences for other nations or the world at large. Now many of those countries have started to pull its funding of US projects and I expect that will escalate.

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Remarkable_Beach_545 1 day ago +3

It's like putting a toddler in charge of a nuclear reactor. All the buttons and levers look fun to use, you can watch him use each one and be horrified at what you know are going to be the consequences, but he won't care and will get bored of it soon anyway

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DOSFS 1 day ago +3

Tbf, Trump is stupid but [US army less so as they went ahead with coop with Ukraine anyway despite Trump (he isn't king, he can shut up).](https://www.twz.com/land/c****-interceptor-drones-proven-in-ukraine-protected-u-s-troops-against-iranian-shaheds)

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Beautiful_Finger4566 1 day ago -2

you realize that the US told NATO countries like Germany to stop buying Russian gas, and NATO's response was "f*** you mate"

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likbusch 19 hr ago

Hrs right Europe did it anyways.

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CalmSettled 1 day ago -5

Lol, they've been targeting these for years

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AverageLiberalJoe 1 day ago +178

God Damn how many of these things does Russia even have left?

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Vano_Kayaba 1 day ago +155

It takes way more than a couple of drones to completely destroy a refinery. I've heard Kremenchuk refinery is still operational. And Russians shot dozens of missiles at it in 2022-2023. But it does reduce output, cause pauses and increase operational costs. And Russia has money issues even without these attacks

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wpgrt 1 day ago -72

>And Russia has money issues They can print money. The issues are generally very high inflation and very high interest rates.

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whorificustotalus 1 day ago +98

Also known as money issues.

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Drak_is_Right 1 day ago +54

The oil refinery here covers 6 square kilometers. While drones could hinder and delay operations in a complex of that size, to truly take one out you would need a few hundred 500lb bombs. And even that might still leave large sections standing.

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Comfortable_Shoe358 1 day ago +50

But isn't oil refining complicated? Like don't all the parts need to work for it to work? How can you take out even 10% of it and have it doing its job at all? I can't shoot a hole in my computer and say "it's only 3% of the surface area, it still works.

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Ludwigofthepotatoppl 1 day ago +38

there are different parts in a refinery, from my experience working at one (scaffold for a turnaround). there's different places where different stuff is done, and if one's fucked up, i assume they probably just stop that part of it and send the feedstock for it to some other refinery.

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Drak_is_Right 1 day ago +28

They often have many identical units running in parallel. Why you see things like "11% reduction for 7 months" would mean 1 of 9 units producing diesel production got blasted. Think more of it as multiple server banks, and you lost 1. Note - I also said "truly take one out". Drone attacks tend to cause a partial halt in operations for a number of weeks.

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Affectionate_Oven_77 1 day ago +3

> I can't shoot a hole in my computer and say "it's only 3% of the surface area, it still works. Correct, but if that hole was in the hard drive, you can replace a hard drive in 5 minutes. If the hole was in the graphics card, you can replace that in 5 minutes. If the hole was in the motherboard, you can replace that in 5 minutes…. Each one of these attacks on energy infrastructure and oil infrastructure is certainly damaging, but the damage is repaired relatively quickly after any fires are out.

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Comfortable_Shoe358 1 day ago +1

They just have loose refinery parts for every apparatus laying around? I mean. I guess they do of these things go back online within a week or two.

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Affectionate_Oven_77 1 day ago +1

It really depends on the parts. I would guess that some parts they have spares available, some parts they would need to order, and some parts they would manufacture. Volgograd refinery has been hit many times (I think 4 waves?) over the past 2 years and they keep bringing that back online after a month or two of repairs

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trippknightly 1 day ago +73

Many are getting hit over and over again. There are bullseye spots in the refineries that would really really take them out for a long time. Source: am armchair petrochemical operations engineer.

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Zolo49 1 day ago +48

I agree. I'm not an armchair petrochemical operations engineer, but I have played Petrochemical Operations Engineer Simulator 2024 on my PC.

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cammcken 1 day ago +3

This guy's not a real simulated petrochemical operations engineer. The game where he claims to have his experience doesn't even exist!

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Fitz911 1 day ago +2

It's a part of the game gaming simulator franchise. It's a game in a game. Fun fact: farming simulator was first simulated in game gaming simulator '93.

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cammcken 23 hr ago +1

Oh I actually didn't know lol. I had done a quick google search because I would be interested in a game like that. Trying again with the keywords you provided, and it's really hard to search for... Is it mostly first-person interactions, or can you also design the systems à la Factorio?

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Linclin 1 day ago +1

They just destroy parts. It's still way better because no one really helps Ukraine and still buys oil from them and imposes sanctions then quietly the next day or so drops them again. Ukraine needs to win this war by tipping the scales within their own country vs relying on aid from people who want a stand still instead of a win.

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No_Intention_8527 1 day ago +51

yaroslavl is way the hell out there for a drone strike. russia's air defense is actually nonexistent at this point.

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noir_lord 1 day ago +28

Gigantic f****** country, they simply don’t have (and realistically can’t make enough) AA systems to cover everything all the time. And the area of a circle goes up as the square of its radius so it gets worse every time Ukraine fields longer range munitions.

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SmegmaWarrior0815 1 day ago +17

I mean, oil refineries seem like something that should be near the top for your air defenses.

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Electromotivation 1 day ago +13

Thats why these hits on obvious targets are such good news. Russia is scrambling to try to cover areas with depleting air defense. Of course Putler's houses have full coverage though.

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noir_lord 1 day ago +12

And likely are for whatever they do have but drones are a b**** to combat (ask the US/Middle East countries). Plus they are large themselves and given they are full of fuel by definition *fragile*. The only winning move is to just declare a unilateral ceasefire and leave because Ukraine is just going to keep hitting them, they are also a nightmare to repair in cost, take a long time to repair and they’ll just keep hitting them when they do repair them.

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Drak_is_Right 1 day ago +4

Detecting these is harder than the interception.

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Fantastic_Scar_6601 1 day ago +2

Just google how many aa systems are not far from pootin palace.

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DaySecure7642 1 day ago +41

Keep it up and make sure after the war Russia won't have the money to support another invasion for decades.

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PlaneswalkerHuxley 1 day ago +43

We need full Russian demilitarisation. As a nation they have done nothing but spread terror and hatred for the last century, we have given them chance after chance and they just chose violence and tyrants every time. So now we have to grind them down until they have no more ability to make war, and then force them to trade their nukes for aid. Do to them what was done to Japan after WW2. Moscovia Delenda Est

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Ansh339 1 day ago

Same can be said for America at this point.

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PlaneswalkerHuxley 1 day ago +1

Half the problems with the US is because Putin has been funnelling money to the worst of the worst. The other half are their own home grown oligarchs, who see Russia as how they want to reorganise the US. It's all just different parts of the same monster.

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Ansh339 1 day ago

There is definitely a need of change in the mindset and the goals.

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vocosa 1 day ago -7

You are funny little goblin

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Mystohaxen 1 day ago +21

Russia getting tired of ”winning” soon?

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DeadJango 1 day ago +14

The more they destroy the longer and more expensive Russia's recovery post war. More time Ukraine has to rebuild and prep for any future aggression. Hit everything.

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A_Nonny_Muse 1 day ago +13

Not taking a war to the enemy's territory has always proven to be a fatal mistake. Which is why I've always bridled at the US insistence that Ukraine remain completely defensive to qualify for US arms. Yeah, leave your enemy completely intact while they devastate your cities, your infrastructure, your hospitals, your schools. Sure, that wins wars. NOT!!!

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PloppyTheSpaceship 1 day ago +10

Y'know, now could be a pretty good time for other countries to start eyeing up a weakened Russia.

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Far_Out_6and_2 1 day ago +13

Good work

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Internal_Bonus_5931 1 day ago +2

How does Ukraine strike so deep into Russia? What drones are they using for these deep strikes?

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Aware-Line-7537 1 day ago +4

Russia doesn't have the air defence capacity to defend its ridiculously huge airspace.

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WayExcellent5595 1 day ago +1

Sent by Rico rodriguez

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Vitylervi 1 day ago -23

Any damage Ukraine might inflict on Russia is just a mosquito bite. While it may be annoying or irritating, it won't change the course of the war. It's a shame few in the West soberly assess Ukraine's dire prospects. Ukraine will continue to lose many people in this war of attrition, plus territory will be lost little by little. In a war of attrition, real territorial losses will come at the very end, when the front collapses.

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K_R_A_K_E_N_540 1 day ago +9

Russia was poor before the war, these "mosquito" bites are making it exponentially more poor and weak... Since it can't even defeat Ukraine, a much smaller and militarily "weaker" country.

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Aware-Line-7537 1 day ago +5

The same wishful thinking from Russia supporters that I've been hearing for four years. Russia has some people left coping for it, but it doesn't have a plan for victory, except throwing more bodies at the Ukrainian defences for tiny gains.

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CaribouJovial 1 day ago +2

>Any damage Ukraine might inflict on Russia is just a mosquito bite. While it may be annoying or irritating, it won't change the course of the war. This really reads as wishful thinking.

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Killerfisk 1 day ago +1

I can sort of understand going with this rhetoric in 2022, but in 2026? You're gonna need some new propaganda.

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