UK's Starmer and Trump discussed military options for Strait of Hormuz

People are dumb, someone replied to me here the other day saying the tanker crew were pussies and they should just gun it and speed through the strait

These are the same people who, in a natural disaster, refuse aide because "God" will save them... Then proceed to die...

The option at the moment is an armed revolution. We ain’t there yet.

with the strait closed? realistically no. (which isn't to say that Trump isn't dumb enough that he might just do that anyway) The GCC, the EU (+UK), and several countries in Asia can't accept Iranian sovereignty over the Strait because for GCC, their entire economies are pretty much based on shipping through the Strait, and for Europe and Asian oil importers, a lot of their oil comes through the Strait. And the GCC countries have a long-term conflict with Iran independent of their economic exposure, so they can't exactly pay Iran billions in tolls a year that will Iran will turn around and use to finance separatist and terrorist groups in all of their neighboring countries as they have been doing for the last 40 years.

It already is everyone's problem. Prices at the pumps are higher than normal, just about everywhere; this morning I saw petrol at £1.60 and diesel at £1.98 *per litre* (3.78 litres in a US gallon, so petrol is £6 per US gallon and diesel is £7.48 per US gallon). I've seen videos from other countries noting a *huge* jump in forecourt pricing. High prices for fuel puts pressure on haulage companies, leading to higher costs for transport of goods, leading to higher prices at retail for those goods. Plus *much* higher insurance costs for any shipping traffic going through the Strait of Hormuz, plus the toll fee per ship if Iran gets its way on that. And this doesn't even take into account the cost to repair and replace all the oil/gas infrastructure Iran has been destroying. And the fact that pump prices go down slowly after the barrel price drops. Everything is going to cost more money. While I believe the current Iranian regime needs to go away (and be replaced by a democracy designed and elected by the Iranian people), Trump's ham-fisted meddling has taken things from bad to worse - failing to enable regime change, and emboldening Iran's government to put a stranglehold on one of the most important shipping lanes in the world - and basically *everyone, everywhere* is now worse off for it - except for the rich, who seem to profit in any scenario.

Unfortunately the previous gov roundly fucked our armed forces leaving us with f*** all.  Unfortunately ships take a while to build, so not really labours fault unless you’d like him to go visit the magic navy tree? Anyway Russia got told to f*** off.

Given we literally tracked three of their subs at once with our own and Norways navy, as they moved around our territorial waters, that is obviously wrong. They were legally permitted to be in those territorial waters, so unless they do something stupid they won't be stopped. It may be inconvenient, but that's how international law works, assuming you come from a country that recognises it.

I'm what respect? What has he done?

At some point someone is going to have to clear this mess up - and it ain’t gonna be the tangoed one

So, what decision involving British involvement and forces makes you think something has changed?