I have no particular love for him but I hope he doesn't resign. Can't see a single other face in parliament I would swap him out for at the moment.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+71
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Semajal5 days ago
+39
Yeah the endless shit from Reform is to try and get him to resign so they can THEN crow that we need a general election. They are so utterly grim. I've been mildly pestering my local reform candidates as they have declared how they will "remove woke and DEI" but can't seem to say what that even is.
Also the absolute gall of Kemi to keep criticizing Starmer/Labour like... Dear god woman it was YOUR party that has trashed so much of the country and brought about the mess of Brexit. Maybe chill out a bit.
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AnalTinnitus5 days ago
+14
> Also the absolute gall of Kemi to keep criticizing Starmer/Labour like...
You have to admire how quickly she forgot her party was in Government for 14 years, and how eager she is to blame the mess on Labour. It's like going into McDonald's, breaking the toilet with a cricket bat, then shitting on the floor and blaming the staff for the mess.
I'm not a huge fan of Starmer, but he did say within a few days of winning the election that it would take more than 5 years to fix the Tory's 14 years of mismanagement. A lot of Brits seem to think switching Governments will instantly fix things.
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Semajal5 days ago
+5
Honestly i think a big issue is that Labour won big not so much due to their popularity but antipathy and dislike of the Tories. But yeah, people seem to think things can be changed magically. Also not taking lessons from America on what happens when you elect populist "say anything to get elected" types
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postusa25 days ago
+34
So Starmer should lose his job over the Epstein files, at the same time as refusing to join Trump's war?
Britain has a crisis that exemplifies the struggle of many democracies... social media rules the game, and gives cynical people the power to steer public sentiment. As a result, who can lead?
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Revolutionary-Bag-525 days ago
-12
People that dont make dumb decisions?
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Araminal5 days ago
+4
You not familiar with politicians then?
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Revolutionary-Bag-525 days ago
+4
I am, and Id actually say that from an outsider it looks like Starmer is doing a decent job. But its just realy dumb how he handled Mandelson
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BritishAnimator5 days ago
+34
He has done far better than I expected. Changing now over this fiasco, and it is massive mess up, could be a disaster for the UK. Kier has close ties with Europe and quite frankly our US relations are in peril because of Trump's madness. We need Kier, even if you don't like him.
I vote we keep him, and I don't even vote Labour, never have in decades. We need closer ties with Europe more than ever. If we lose both the US and Europe we are truly isolated. The US can not be trusted under a Trump, Vance, Hegseth, Johnson administration. It should be very clear how muich they are manipulating things, it's more mafia than leadership, even though Trump keeps saying how great things are when they are clearly not!
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suddenstutter4 days ago
+5
Its a guaranteed disaster. Not a could be.
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IrishWarhog3 days ago
+4
I don't historically like labour and didn't like starmer but he has surprised me for the good and if we'd had our go again I'd vote for labour this time round.
even if I didn't like him it'd be idiotic to make him resign right now.
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Klive5ive5555 days ago
+20
This ‘scandal’ would have been a footnote in the Boris years.
It would be hard to find someone on the same wavelength as Trump who ISN’T in the Epstein files.
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suddenstutter4 days ago
Correct.
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calibosco4 days ago
+3
The left wing parties need to wake up and stop eating themselves alive with infighting and resignation demands. Right wings parties can have rapist,lying, convicted felons as their party heads and still show a unified front.
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mark60594 days ago
+3
so if starmer is being held accountable for this whole debacle is king charles also going to be held accountable for andrews "indiscretions" ? It seems inplausible that he and other members of the royal family were completely in the dark about what andrew was doing
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Metal-Lifer2 days ago
+3
the right own the media and are always hard on labour
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DzoQiEuoi5 days ago
+8
This is such an absurd “scandal”. Just a relentless witch hunt by the right wing press.
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Electrical-Lab-95935 days ago
+6
I want to know who keeps pushing that guy, he has always had scandals yet is always given high access positions in goverment, somebody is paying/pushing for this.
could be powers in the UK, could be from abroad, I think that is the big question here, why can't fairly smart people who know he is a train wreck waiting happen say no?
its actually only under the current goverment that might end the guys career which is good because Mandy seems like a traitor to the UK based on reports.
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markwid5 days ago
+3
I find he's got that deer in headlights look all the time.
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TrickshotCandy5 days ago
+5
Oh please dont let him resign. We need a little bit of global stability right now. Let Trump and Co screw themselves with Iran a little more. Hopefully Americans have their limit.
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Crittsy5 days ago
+1
After this he need to commot to thr EU money laundering legislation to f*** these people up
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whentheworldquiets5 days ago
+1
All we need to do to safeguard democracy in Britain is put it at the top of a flight of stairs.
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bngrxd2 days ago
+1
Why is UK politics so unstable?
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Tobias---Funke1 day ago
+1
Politicians have resigned over a lot less than this.
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slimeyy_025 days ago
+2
Poor guy
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Annunakh5 days ago
-4
How many PM you changed lately? How it improved you life?
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LongLongMan_TM5 days ago
+20
Holding people accountable is never a bad thing. If everything is brushed of, you end up with a dictatorship like the US.
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Araminal5 days ago
+1
Best hope a certain populist party doesn't get in then, because that will end accountability.
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Pink-heels-1585 days ago
Canadian here, please if he has to be replaced, not someone pro-Trump. 🙏
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Ultra_Metal5 days ago
-18
Starmer lied to Parliament and protected a pedophile who's under the influence of the CCP. This is incredibly scandalous. There's no way he stays in power for much longer.
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+10
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Ultra_Metal4 days ago
+1
Shame on you for defending a liar and a defender of pedos.
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MatioyrsIfo4 days ago
+1
Please get rid of the pedos under the influence of Israel, so pretty much half the politicians.
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