They'll take the money, then say they need them in Iran.
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Do_itschApr 23, 2026
+2
Deliver on time. No.. Getting the money upfront. Yes
2
Cautious_Goose_5568Apr 22, 2026
+25
Don't pay upfront
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PhoneFresh7595Apr 22, 2026
+52
delivery not guaranteed in this decade
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CountryMiserable7391Apr 23, 2026
+2
As a normal American, this has all become so sad to us.
2
DaveVdEApr 23, 2026
+1
What does a normal American look like these days?
1
morgazmo99Apr 23, 2026
+1
Imagine a spherical cow..
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DaveVdEApr 24, 2026
+2
Well I was gonna say “disenfranchised” but sure.
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pxer80Apr 23, 2026
+3
They might not want to pay up front.
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Fearless_Ad_5470Apr 23, 2026
+3
Guess how many years later the Netherlands receives the goods.
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HoneyBadger552Apr 22, 2026
+4
next batch will be european made. Europe is getting fed up w US. rheinmettal and thales awaits ur order
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noir_lordApr 22, 2026
+11
We (UK/France via MBDA) already have the brimstone, dimensionally identical to hellfire (intentionally) and equal or better (it’s newer).
Same issue we always have though, volume.
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HoneyBadger552Apr 22, 2026
+5
stellar to hear. rheinmettal has been upping their capacity.
had no idea europe was building symmetrical munitions. smart move my man
5
faffc260Apr 22, 2026
+6
NATO has tried to maintain standards so different countries are able to operate together effectively without a nightmare of logistics, this goes beyond the well known nato standards of 5.56x45 and 7.62x51 rifle cartridges to many other things. where feasible ofc.
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noir_lordApr 22, 2026
+6
It’s a good system, it’s essentially a modernised hellfire (which is what it started as) but internally it’s entirely new.
Much like the Meteor vs the AIM-260, same role, similar capabilities.
The only thing Europe is behind on is stealth and space assets.
The US forgets that France, Germany, UK, Italy etc are technologically as *advanced* as the US on near all military technology.
We are strapping the brimstone to everything *including* drones and ground vics.
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Brief_Hospital_1766Apr 23, 2026
+1
Volume is a political issue.
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MuchDiscipline2288Apr 23, 2026
+3
heard that same song and dance with the f-35
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thecloakofignoranceApr 23, 2026
+1
Is that for ten missiles or twelve?
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Mr_EngineeringApr 23, 2026
+7
Probably between 1,000 and 1,500. AGM-114s are insanely cost effective.
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EglaerinionApr 23, 2026
+1
500-600. The newer ones are more expensive and the contract is for more than just missiles.
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imaginary_num6erApr 22, 2026
+1
Hopefully NET1095 payment terms
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BeverlyHills70117Apr 22, 2026
-8
I don't follow missile names, so this may be old news to most...but "hellfire" missilles? Has no one ever said the military is run by 12 year olds. F****** goof asses run the world. It's embarassing.
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Brief_Hospital_1766Apr 23, 2026
+3
Been in service since the early 90s, but yes. 'Epic Fury' has turned into 'Epic Fear'.
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very_anonymousApr 23, 2026
+3
What do you want them to call it?
Incendiary Ordinance Type 1 Revision C?
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HaximusPrimeApr 23, 2026
-1
They are literally missiles…. fired…. from heli…..copters.
Just hit the blunt again bro
-1
Fitz911Apr 23, 2026
+1
Yo. That was pretty stupid.
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HaximusPrimeApr 23, 2026
+1
Im sorry, the actual etymology of the name which is so extremely relevant that 100% of its letters are used to describe its deployment is stupid…..but thinking it’s just a meme name isn’t?
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BeverlyHills70117Apr 23, 2026
-4
To be so willfully naive that the same people who bought you the uber cartoonesque URGENT FURY for our invasion of the 133 Sq mile island of Grenada (population 100,000) didn't try to come up with that goof ass name is kind of funny.
I was in Panama during "Just Cause" that name was f****** funny, but yeah, from the country that bought you Operation Gothic Serpent, it's me, not the military that's high.
F****** goofballs all the way down.
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HaximusPrimeApr 23, 2026
+1
You aren’t being as edgey as you think considering Hellfires have been called that since Vietnam.
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LwyrUpAmrcaApr 22, 2026
-2
Waiting for the Tweet announcing we’re about to annex Aruba
-2
KentustApr 22, 2026
-12
Don't we need those to restock our own missile stockpile after the botched war?
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MooseTotsApr 22, 2026
+2
I learned something about the Ukrainian military industrial complex that probably applies to the US’s as well. The Ukrainian government doesn’t necessarily buy all of the stock of a given item from the private company that makes them. Company A might produce 4000 fpv drones but the government may only have the budget for 3500. Then the rest can be sold to an allied country or held onto for future purchase.
So I imagine (and hope) the US produces more military equipment than the Pentagon can purchase.
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cjsv7657Apr 22, 2026
+4
The US has tens of thousands of hellfires and hasn't really dented the stockpile at all.
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KentustApr 22, 2026
-4
I thought the bottleneck was chips, meaning that replacing any modern missiles or other (smart?) munitions. Replacing these missiles will still use chips and industrial capacity, unless the US intends to simply lower the quantities in its stockpiles
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cjsv7657Apr 22, 2026
+6
Chips are not a bottleneck for US missiles at all. Fuel and explosives are the largest bottlenecks and hellfires are tiny compared to something like a tomahawk so use way less.
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KentustApr 22, 2026
-3
Wow, this is the first I'm hearing of this. Do you have any recommended reading? I've never heard that claim before. So if Taiwan blows its chip manufacturing there will be no effect on US missile production?
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cjsv7657Apr 22, 2026
+2
A bottleneck is something production is limited by. Production is not limited by sourcing chips. Obviously if Taiwan destroyed fabs and China restricted rare earth metals those would become bottlenecks. Since that hasn't happened they are not bottlenecks.
As 90%+ of the entire world gets their advanced semiconductors from Taiwan *everyone* would be facing shortages thus bottlenecks in producing missiles. The US with the largest stockpiles would be far better off than any other country.
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ABoutDeSouffleApr 22, 2026
+3
The chips used in ammo are relatively simple, they can be produced in older fabs. Your phone has more modern chips than any hellfire missile.
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ABoutDeSouffleApr 22, 2026
+2
You are probably going to pull the same stunt as with Switzerland: take the money and refuse to deliver anything.
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Polartheb3arApr 22, 2026
-1
They will be sent back if the US tries to invade Greenland. With it being a NATO protected country and all.
-1
KentustApr 22, 2026
+4
Sent back by express delivery?
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3tntxApr 22, 2026
+5
I’d say a speed of Mach 1.3 would qualify as express 😀
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WyciorekApr 22, 2026
-2
That’s why US will be collecting money, but not actually delivering anything. Netherlands, please do read about Switzerland‘s deals for American weapons and how it went for them.
-2
KentustApr 22, 2026
+2
Buying American right now is certainly a choice
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thompsoncsApr 22, 2026
+2
Practically the entire Dutch airforce and AD is already US-based (F35, apache (very recently upgraded to modern AH-64E), chinook, patriot etc) . Buying more munitions for your existing US systems changes nothing in terms of dependence. We're also not about to throw all those investments down the drain unless there is absolutely no other choice.
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SirRichardLoveApr 22, 2026
-4
What uhhh, is the Netherlands doing with hellfire missiles?
-4
Brief_Hospital_1766Apr 23, 2026
+7
They have Apaches.
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EglaerinionApr 23, 2026
+2
Also MQ9s that are in the process of being armed.
2
EquivalentSpot8292Apr 22, 2026
+5
Don’t worry about it, need it for weed stuff. Not for Ukraine. Shh.
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Ultrajogger-MichaelApr 23, 2026
+2
Glorious Revolution II; beware Brits.
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PHD_GoudaApr 22, 2026
-5
Taxpayers will keep supporting massive spending until moral improves
-5
WeakBlueberry5071Apr 22, 2026
-17
They'll sell to Boko Haram if they had the cash, u.s. is broke.
-17
zachxyzApr 22, 2026
+14
The US is broke? Lmao
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wompicalApr 22, 2026
+10
according to listnook both USA - the richest country in the history of the world - and elon musk, the richest man in the history of the world are both broke.
10
WeakBlueberry5071Apr 22, 2026
-6
Do you know what....debt....means.
You're about to break 39 trillion. Yes I say you're. Because every American owns a piece of that debt.
-6
TopsyyeApr 22, 2026
+9
Which country are you from that doesn’t have any debt?
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ScopeLogicApr 23, 2026
-2
What exactly does the Netherlands want hellfire for? The nation is 89% water....
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