Does this guy hold any sway? It seems the cardboard Ayatollah and the current IRGC commander have more say in negotiations.
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HarEr892 days ago
+2
The IRGC control everything. And they won't handover the uranium.
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takesthebiscuit3 days ago
+5
a lying narcissist blocker to genuine negotiation
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nu1stunna3 days ago
+32
For anyone who thinks that Pezeshkian, IR’s president, is just a victim caught in between all of this, please know that this person was the architect of the mandatory hijab after the revolution. He was the director of a hospital and began mandating the hijab for all his female employees before it was the law of the land.
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LostKnight843 days ago
+7
No, this is just a slap fight between 2 dickwads. Sadly they are in control of militaries and not afraid to have others die for what they want.
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Price_Hill_Girls3 days ago
+9
But Trump bad. Anyone that hates trump is good.
Listnook rules 101
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MrEvilFox3 days ago
+29
They can both be bad for different reasons lol.
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BOPSurfcasting13 days ago
+8
Trump dragged the world into a war nobody wanted, one that he claimed would take 5-6 weeks, now we are in a forever war.
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nu1stunna3 days ago
-9
A majority of Iranians wanted this war.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
+8
Can I please see the poll or a link showing most Iranians wanted this war....
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HarEr892 days ago
+9
All Iranians who fled to Germany wanted this war.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
+1
How are they enjoying it so far?
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Boysoythesoyboy2 days ago
+5
Iranians love being bombed. They are greeting US bombs with sweets and flowers.
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nu1stunna2 days ago
-5
You just have zero idea about the nuances of the Iranian mindset.
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Reelwizard2 days ago
+8
That mindset is stupid. There’s no denying that the leadership of Iran is evil and should be removed but if they think the United States is going to do anything beyond installing a friendly strong man who will be torn down in a few years by even more extreme forces then they’re gullible as hell. History has shown time and time again that the United States hasn’t decently rebuilt a country since the 1940s. It gets expensive, the country gets bored, and then you’re on your own.
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nu1stunna2 days ago
-3
You have no right to tell Iranians who have been living under the hardship of this regime for 47 years who are desperate for change that their mindset is stupid. It’s easy for you to say while you have access to the internet and are free to voice your ridiculous opinion — 90 million Iranians have been in an internet blackout for 2 months. So ✌️
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Brief_Hospital_17662 days ago
-1
Jesus f****** christ you people are thick
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BOPSurfcasting13 days ago
-20
I have to wear a uniform when I go to work as well.
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No-Space9373 days ago
+15
Will you get abducted by secret police if you don't?
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-5
Forget about what Trump's propaganda machine tells you. This is in the middle of Tehran, this is real life.....
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1lMiW2B0pmo](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1lMiW2B0pmo)
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No-Space9372 days ago
+5
Do yourself a favour and Google Mahsa Amini
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-5
She died while in custody, she was arrested officially for not wearing her hijab, that doesn't mean she was beaten to death simply for not wearing her hijab. People get beaten in custody all the time even in western countries, some of them die.
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No-Space9372 days ago
+6
Dude, whatever it is you're doing... Just stop.
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snarky_answer2 days ago
+2
Dude ran to the Iran sublistnook to post about hijabs.
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nu1stunna3 days ago
+8
Probably one of the most insensitive and out of touch things I’ve read in a long time.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-2
This is real life in Tehran, not how western media likes to portray it, notice how nobody wears their hijabs?
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1lMiW2B0pmo](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1lMiW2B0pmo)
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+6
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-1
I'm not trying to tell you about real life in Tehran, I'm showing you.
People didn't die strictly because of hijab laws, it was for more broader political and social freedoms, hijab laws were just a small part of that.
I missed that other commenter, I'll address that now.
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nu1stunna2 days ago
+3
DUDE stop trying to tell me about my own country. I’m VERY well aware why those ppl were killed in January. You’re trying to paint the regime as normal. They’re not f****** normal.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-1
I'm not telling you about your own country - **I'm showing you**
[**https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AISNIStc7Ng**](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AISNIStc7Ng)
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nu1stunna2 days ago
+3
Omg you’re literally ignoring everything I’m saying. You’re showing me propaganda and being disingenuous
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-1
Are you telling me all these hundreds of videos of Tehran are all publicly staged?, is that what you're telling me? even Mark Wien's videos of Iran?
[https://www.youtube.com/@MarkWiens/search?query=Tehran](https://www.youtube.com/@MarkWiens/search?query=Tehran)
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shabooya7612 days ago
+2
You trying to “educate” Iranians about our own country and lived experiences with a YouTube video is in very bad taste and will age very poorly.
The video you are sharing are the very videos the regime uses to push a narrative that life is normal, even free for women in the Islamic republic! The part you don’t see is the disappearances, torturing, death, etc women have been and continue to be subjected to up to this point. They are still at risk of being arrested or killed every day for these acts of civil disobedience but decided to collectively stop giving a shit and there are too many for the regime to kill / arrest but it does still happen. It is still illegal and punishable with arrest and execution in some cases.
No matter how many YouTube videos you’ve seen, or white “middle eastern experts” you’ve heard on the news, you do not understand life under the regime, and the nuances and complexities of Iranian struggles better than the people living it. If you’re truly genuine and have good intentions, I suggest you do more listening and less speaking.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
-1
Are you telling me all these hundreds of videos of Tehran are all publicly staged by the Islamic regime?, is that what you're telling me? even Mark Wien's videos of Iran?
[https://www.youtube.com/@MarkWiens/search?query=Tehran](https://www.youtube.com/@MarkWiens/search?query=Tehran)
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ruminaui3 days ago
+8
Both of them are POS. But Trump is an idiot of course they are going to pull out of negotiation if you keep your side of the blockade.
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BOPSurfcasting12 days ago
+5
The US won't unblock Iran's ports and Iran won't come to the table unless it is unblocked. F*** they can't even make it to the negotiation table let along make a peace deal.
The strait will be blocked for months.
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Ohdake2 days ago
+4
The thing is that the Iranian argument about the blockade is a valid one. The USA can't claim there to be a ceasefire with Iran while at the same time committing an act of war (naval blockade is an act of war) against Iran.
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No-Space9372 days ago
You realize both sides are still commited to their respective blockades? Whatever Aragachi said on Saturday morning clearly was not approved by the IRGC, and walked back almost immediately, and was a public displaying of the lack of cohesion in the Iranian Regime.
Before any type of further negotiations are even possible there needs to be a clear line on who the US is even negotating with, and there is an obvious power struggle currently taking place within the Iranian Regime, with Vahidi at the helm of the IRGC seemingly calling the shots and ruling in abstentia of Mojtaba Khamenie. He is a hardliner who opposes negotiation or an end to the Iranian blockade, so this simply becomes an economic test of endurance between opposing blockades.
*Edit, to add, I don't want to get into a semantics arguement on the definition of ceasefire. Even though sanctions, embargoes and blockades can all be viewed as another realm of economic warfare, fact remains both sides are engaged in blockading the strait, and the ceasefire can still be seen to being held as minimal kinetic action has been engaged by either side. A ceasefire is very rarely an immediate and total ceasation of hostilities, but rather a mutual dialing back of aggresive actions that could lead to escalation.
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Ohdake2 days ago
+1
Yes, I do. Then again from the appearance the when the ceasefire was initially declared the existence of it was rejected due to Israel violating it (conditions included Lebanon) and when that ended it appears that Iran did end the blockade only for the USA not to follow the suit. Which resulted in Iran restarting their blockade (i think it was nominally open for a day or so).
The same applies to the US side as well. Trump has been flopping so much with his decisions that it is uncertain if anything the negotiators on the US side agree actually holds up (as is the case example with the US blockade). So that problem applies to the both sides as well.
As to the last part... The difference there is that economic warfare - i.e. an **embargo** \- is not considered to be an act of war while actual physical **blockade** is - your opinion on that doesn't really matter (see for example: [https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/blockade/](https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/blockade/) and [https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/san-remo-manual-1994/article-93-108](https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/san-remo-manual-1994/article-93-108) ). As to the last part... It is partially true however the USA can not simply unilaterally declare that their end of the ceasefire still includes the blockade while expecting Iranians to just accept it.
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No-Space9372 days ago
I have been preaching this from the rooftops since the start of the conflict, ignore political posturing from either side regarding the status of the strait, because both sides are talking out their respective asses.
**The only thing that will declare the strait open is ships transiting.**
Friday Aragachi said the strait would be "completely open" and within hours on Saturday the IRGC had publicly rebuked him, while attacking ships attempting transit, no ships made it through.
If you can link to an article that claims both sides agreed that the ceasefire would include them both ending their respective blockades I would be happy to read it. Otherwise the status quo has been maintained by both sides since the start of negotiations seeing as the only thing I have seen after the talks was that neither side came to any sort of an agreement, and no ships have transited the strait free of either blockade (minus the madlad cruiseliners, but that was absolutely not sanctioned by the Iranians and went deep into Omani waters). The move by Aragachi was not representative of the Iranian Government (IRGC led by Vahidi).
All that said it is safe to say that since the negotiations both sides have never let any ships through, have maintained their blockades, never came to a single agreement on any terms whatsoever, and if you view that as a violation of a ceasefire by your definitions, then both sides are equally guilty.
>As to the last part... It is partially true however the USA can not simply unilaterally declare that their end of the ceasefire still includes the blockade while expecting Iranians to just accept it.
Well they actually can. If they think they are in the stronger economic position to wait this out they can easily say, "I wont fire at you if you dont fire at me, and meanwhile we will both blockade each other. Fair is fair" Nothing is stopping that from taking place and is infact what is currently happening. Now where it matters is in the court of public opinion. If my definition of ceasefire takes precedent, and more people view renewed kinetic aggression by Iran as Iran breaking the ceasefire after America stood down their military actions, then that plays to their favor. If not they have the stronger military hand to deal out more damage if Iran chooses to fight. Iran can't blockade the strait stronger. They are forcing Iran into a delema, and the only way Iran comes out ahead is if the US does not have the backing to see this strategy through, time will tell I guess.
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Ohdake2 days ago
+2
I fully agree on the problem existing on both sides.
Unless otherwise specified it seems rather strange to claim that without explicit agreements towards so end the ceasefire agreement would have included clause about the USA (or Iran maintaining the blockade). Iran certainly has made it clear that it has not agreed to that.
US can declare what they will but they can not expect other parties to abide by those unconditionally.
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+10
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FoundationGreat70722 days ago
+6
As if the other side would? Can\`t even upphold commitments already signed.
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HarEr892 days ago
+1
When will Trump get it?
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AdventurousPolicy3 days ago
+1
Seems more like a ship grabbing contest now.
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44Stryker442 days ago
+1
He doesn’t even have any power
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Ready_Data52062 days ago
+1
The problem is american ego is badly hurt because of the failed war and it is trying to win at the negotiating table which it could not in the war.
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wwarnout3 days ago
-1
Well, that's a polite (and accurate) way of saying, "Trump lied, and can no longer be trusted."
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Boys4Ever3 days ago
-3
All we had to do was honor the ceasefire, but daddy Israel felt like bombing Lebanon and that needed a one up by us called the blockade instead of declaring moral victory and getting our kids back home in a war that didn't need to get started because obviously strategic thinking not what a FOX host known for. Just drunk shit.
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MethodSufficient39603 days ago
-2
calling for a genuine negotiation while blocking the ports is a bold move.
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HarEr892 days ago
-1
The Iranian president has zero power. How many more weeks before Trump understands that?
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TheSleepyTruth2 days ago
-1
Ummm Iran has been blockading the entire Strait of Hormuz to all Gulf nation ports to all ships except Iran's close allies for weeks prior to when the US began their reciprocal blockade on Iranian ports... "Butttt thats different, our Hormuz blockade is allowed because we say so, but the American blockade on us in return is outrageous piracy and highly illegal!!"
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