US fighter jet shot down over Iran, search underway for crew, US official says

Exactly. America's number one DUI hire knows that Warrior Culture is having your mutilated corpse paraded around Tehran.

"The deranged Iranian's air defenses have been obliterated"

Oh no it is. It's just not *only* his ass on the line. If he thinks he's getting out of this in one piece he's even dumber than he seems. 

Make-A-Wish Hegseth doesn't give a shit about US service members. He doesn't care what happens to these pilots. He's enjoying roleplaying [Wish.com](http://Wish.com) Eisenhower at the US taxpayers expense, and with the lives of US service members.

Gon? I think is.

The Geneva Convention is what protect pilots, and the Geneva convention specifically calls out “armed conflict” not “war”. A formal declaration of war is not required for pilot protections.

Iran has the chance to be ethically superior to the nazi states, I think they should take every opportunity to do so.

Uniformed combatants are not spies

Exactly he thought McCain was weak for being shot down and staying as a POW to secure the freedom of his fellow soldiers. He see’s selflessness as being a sucker. He’s a giant a******.

"They are SINOs! Soldiers In Name Only" FDT

See: Trump calls John McCain a "loser." EDIT: I sincerely hope that nobody was killed/captured.

"If those DEI hires were good at flying they wouldn't have been shot down!"

I believe he insinuated they are losers.

He has to watch his rhetoric. He generally enjoys support from the military, but this may evaporate quickly if he doesn't turn the world over for a downed pilot.

Hard to get POWs when the only things that see the enemy are bombs.

Keeping POWs alive? Sounds like that woke tepid legality, not something maximum lethality Warfighters should be doing, you know?

Which is wild that Kegseth is saying we are sending our people into your country to kill all your combatants and alluding to a crazy number of civilian casualties in the process. Guess Iran is really going to roll out the red carpet huh.

ICE will start rounding up Iranian Americans to create POWs FDT

He knew. He just doesn’t care.

No, ~~we~~ Kegsbreath let them drown.

Pretty sure the ground invasion is happening no matter what at this point.

What?? Our "greatest ally"?? no... never..

Yeah I don't believe Israel want peace until either every Arab is ded or each gulf country is in anarchy

A sacrifice Israel is only too happy to make.

A full ground incursion is happening regardless of an escalation excuse. Americans elected the dumbest fuckers possible and are constantly being surprised at the results.

Almost as if it were all planned.

Evangelicals love the idea. They think a massive conflict with a lot of deaths will start a timeline that involves Jesus coming back. Christian Zionists don't really support Israel or Jews, they just see them as necessary and then disposable players in their fucked up fantasy.

These people voted for a guy that ran on a no war campaign and flainted around how he's  ending wars. Then he started a pointless war which made everything worse for his own country and the world. And now they are defending it. I just cant understand.

I saw one comment on a now deleted thread on a conservative sub, that, in response to Trump’s comments on two more weeks of war, “good, I miss bombing the Middle East. It feels right at home.” and if that doesn’t sum up, war hungry conservatives I don’t know what does.

I was thinking a slingshot!

Yabba Dabba Don’t

So, pterodactyls (like the Flintstones)?

The fact that Iran, which was in the Stone Age, could shoot down a US fighter jet proves that the US military is a paper tiger

it is alarming how many us jets are being seen flying low. MANPADs are effectively impossible to suppress, and there are no fighter jets or helicopters in the world that have a 100% evasion chance against a MANPAD. What i'm curious about is why this plane was flying low enough to be hit by one in the first place. 10,000 feet and higher these things are basically harmless. Either USAAF and navy are carrying ordinance that requires them to hit the deck, or more concerning, there are still active Iranian SAMs that force us jets to fly lower in certain areas of Iran.

My bet is on a Majid launcher. Iran has used these for a few years and it uses an optical sensor instead of IR or radar. It doesn't care about flares or stealth. If you're flying in the open below 20,000 ft you're in their operational zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majid_(air_defense_system)

“Lone Survivor 2 - Lonelier”

Yeah, I don't know why everyone is assuming this the pilots made it out. Shit's not Top Gun. If a jet gets hit by AA or a MANPAD, there's a solid chance the pilots are KIA instantly.

> Reuters is pretty neutral and reliable. *Angry Conservative noises*

Agreed, command just seem so woefully unprepared for any of this.

I'm not sure why everyone seems to be assuming they survived and bailed out.

It's pretty amazing the F15 had a perfect record until this war when and F18 shot some down and now this The idea of using f15s and missile trucks is starting to be suspect. 

I was just telling someone this. Personally, I doubt the pilots will come to any harm if captured. 1. The Iranians know they are looking fairly good in their messaging right now, and won’t want to f*** that up. They want to be seen as the “good guys” and the “victims”. 2. I think they’d be concerned if they did anything the already unhinged Trump would go nuclear on them (figuratively? I hope?) 3. In rational thought, they would be a pretty good bargaining chip. 4. Torture is kinda pointless on them in terms of interrogation. What information are they trying to get? There’s no ground troops. They already know where our ships are roughly, our bases where the strikes are coming from, etc. Of course, who knows - Iranians are probably pretty f****** mad at this so maybe someone just does something out of emotion. But if they’re smart, and I do think Iran and its leadership are pretty smart, they’ll capture them, care for any injuries they got, feed them, and try to use them as bargaining tools. The only thing I do worry about is if trump refuses to negotiate and simply doesn’t care, or escalates, and id be worried in that zero-sum situation Iran may just try to send a message.

With one POW there’s also a chance they use this to pretend they are more decent and give themselves some good PR as they try to turn the world against the US. Here we have this American pilot who was bombing our bridges and power plants. Look, we did not execute him or torture him, we “treat him humanely” and make him read statements asking US forces to withdraw, thats all. Idk how likely it is but the Iranian govt is not exactly ISIS, they have some adults in the room

Maybe if the US had a competent admin, but we don’t and that’s why we are in this situation.

Irania government is no doubt aware by now the optics and garnering support with favourable POW treatment rather than brutalizing them, as seen in Ukraine-Russia or even Israel-Gaza. If captured, my money is on them treating the pilots relatively well to troll the US by appearing to take the moral high ground against the aggressor state.