Probably not a good sign that the peace memo is being well received.
No clue if it's a bad sign but not a good one.
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supercyberlurker5 days ago
+36
Anyone believing the peace talks will resolve things soon bullshit is too gullible to survive in an economy this manipulated.
It’s like a scam at a global level.
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notkevin_durant4 days ago
-5
Oh you mean how markets keep hitting all time highs by doing nothing but continuing to invest in the market? Yeah, super tough.
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
+4
Markets up but not more than pretty much everything we buy is up.
Buying power is dropping and when the market tanks we’re losing huge amounts of value.
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Retirednypd4 days ago
+1
But when(if) you have 7 figures, it kinda doesn't matter.
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notkevin_durant4 days ago
-2
You didn’t put enough money in
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AkiStudios15 days ago
+10
Its Friday and they released UAP videos. I think shit is gonna go down tonight or sometime this weekend.
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itsatumbleweed5 days ago
+3
UAP videos?
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Force_Hammer5 days ago
+3
UFO files
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ObviouslyRealPerson5 days ago
+28
At this point it's comical that this post is right next to:
>Marco Rubio says U.S. expects Iran response on peace deal 'today'
Trump is clearly doing everything he can to keep the price of oil high. For his oil cartel buddies, for Putin, and for himself.
He has more incentive to keep oil high than he does to bring it back down for us peasants
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notkevin_durant4 days ago
+9
Oh this is a new Listnook take. Normally he is manipulating it downward.
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
+3
No he wants gas down but everything he does is something directly resulting in oil climbing.
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fec22454 days ago
+2
Why would he lift the blockade on Iran just because they're in talks?
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ObviouslyRealPerson4 days ago
Why would he put a blockade on Iran if the goal was to reopen tbe strait?
Any action taken against Iran will only lengthen the time the strait is closed
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chaotic5674 days ago
+7
because they are still trying to do the [strait toll](https://fortune.com/2026/05/07/iran-ship-tax-strait-of-hormuz-us-peace-deal/?utm_source=listnook/)? Also rejecting the UN resolution on [Homuz mining](https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605078702)?
having the blockade still in place make sense if they are not going to let go out of charging the place
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ObviouslyRealPerson4 days ago
-3
Iran probably rejected the UN resolution because IT WAS CO-SPONSORED BY THE UNITED STATES
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chaotic5674 days ago
+5
Okay, what about the fact they are to make others pay for the toll? For a strait by international law is illegal to do so? Until they give that up, the blockade is going to stick
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ObviouslyRealPerson4 days ago
+1
You mean the toll Trump has also said that he wants to [charge](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trump-says-us-could-charge-for-strait-of-hormuz-passage-amid-iran-war)?
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chaotic5674 days ago
+2
Doesn't make it right either, but Iran is the one really pushing for it given they made agency around it. Meaning they are serious about it.
Trump has only said it one time and it was in response to Iran doing the strait toll demand
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ObviouslyRealPerson4 days ago
+1
You're right, it doesn't make it right.
In fact, Trump's instinct is to always do the wrong thing
...like this blockade
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chaotic5674 days ago
+7
Which Iran is also doing for others since around the start of the war. Which prompted US to blockade Iran. Glad you agree the facts are on my side.
So either:
- Iran gets to illegally mine the strait, charge extortion tolls, and hold global oil hostage
or
- US keep the blockade until they drop it and reopen properly.
Which one are you choosing? Because 'Trump bad' doesn't open the strait."
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lostinspacs4 days ago
+3
Because Iran won’t lift their own blockade (toll system, need IRGC approval to pass) and says it’s the new status quo. The US wants full freedom of navigation.
The US is using a blockade against Iran to say okay, you won’t get to use the Strait at all in this new status quo. Both sides are trying to use economic pressure to coerce each other.
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fec22454 days ago
+3
>Any action taken against Iran will only lengthen the time the strait is closed
This doesn't seem correct
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ObviouslyRealPerson4 days ago
+2
Because the strait is currently open?
That doesn't seem correct
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Snigglybear4 days ago
+2
They were headed to Iran to get a full load of Iranian oil. They didn’t listen and are now immobilized.
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Dark_World_Blues5 days ago
+5
It seems like Iran's regime didn't take the blockade seriously, again.
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Karsh145 days ago
+11
This is basically the same “non-war” that Russia is currently fighting in Ukraine.
When people blame the average Russian for being okay with Putins war in Ukraine, point to the average American and the American media carrying water for the Government in this one currently happening in front of our eyes here today.
They just need to call it for what it is. Trump declared war on Iran. Stop with the gaslighting already (which is 100% because of how this will effect the polls for the midterms by the way. The Media carrying water big time and the propaganda is being blasted at Americans, all day every day.)
Now whether Irans regime deserves to fall or not is a completely separate issue (They are 100% authoritan and oppressive), but just call this for what it is already.
The United States has declared war and is currently still at war with Iran.
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Academic_Net62984 days ago
+9
Except the results of this war are substantially less disastrous for the American people than the war in Ukraine is for the Russian people.
Let’s be honest, we’re not losing thousands of killed and wounded a month, our central bank has not had a double digit interest rate for 4 years, the US hasn’t been cut off from the global financial system, etc.
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
-3
Yet
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Academic_Net62984 days ago
+6
If the US suffers 350,000+ KIA in Iran, I will eat my shoes
If you think that’s a real possibility you’re divorced from reality
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
-7
You eating your shoe won’t do anything to bring back people lost so not sure why that’s a huge meaningful consequence.
But if you think we aren’t heading for thousands dead with how this current admin thinks about war and military personal then you’re more divorced from what’s happening then I am.
Signed, a dude who got blown up in RCEast AFG becuase the last admin decided we should be there… and they gave way more of a shit then this one.
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Academic_Net62984 days ago
+6
Your doomsaying isn’t going to make 7 figure American casualty lists appear
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
-6
We’re at seven figures now? What happened to six?
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Academic_Net62984 days ago
+6
Russia has taken ~350,000 KIA, they have taken ~1.2 million casualties total.
If you had actually served you would understand the definitional difference between “KIA” and “casualty”
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378536885447884 days ago
+1
Insurance fraud?
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alemorg5 days ago
-6
But the trump admin and axios is saying we are near an end to the conflict. We are going to hear from Iran capitulating any moment now /s
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HystericalSail4 days ago
+2
Like we do every week. So long as it keeps pumping markets higher we'll keep hearing about how we won in Iran and they're surrender edging.
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alemorg4 days ago
+1
They don’t even it know it bro but we won. Bro what is this bullshit is the president 12?
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tvtowers5 days ago
-16
Just as performative as Trump lobbing tomahawk missiles at an empty airbase in Syria his first time out. He's a puffer fish.
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itsFelbourne5 days ago
+20
Disabling Iranian VLCCs is anything but performative. They own maybe 40, maximum, with some being out of service at any given time.
3 taken out of service is a potential loss in the hundreds of millions of dollars and probably nearly 10% of their active bulk tanker capacity
Edit: and to expand on this; Iran is filling tankers as a way to avoid running out of onshore oil storage capacity.
By taking empty tankers out of action, they are reducing Irans storage capacity, thus shortening the timeline of how long Iran can withstand the blockade before they are forced to start flaring/capping oil wells and reducing production
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Nepridiprav165 days ago
+2
> 3 taken out of service is a potential loss in the hundreds of millions of dollars and probably nearly 10% of their active bulk tanker capacity
This is misleading because you have to account in their shadow fleet which works similar as Russian.
Iran utilizes over 700 tankers (though many are smaller than VLCCs) of this fleet through front companies. Approximately 80-90% of Iranian oil deliveries are completed by these shadow tankers.
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Thurak05 days ago
-9
> before they are forced to start flaring/capping oil wells and reducing production
The USA are just doing everything they can to hurt the worldwide economics.
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tvtowers5 days ago
-9
Great idea, take Iran's production completely offline and gas prices will stay high for an extra couple of months while they reopen.
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itsFelbourne5 days ago
+3
Maybe, but Iran simply standing by and shuttering significant amounts of production rather than making a deal doesn’t seem very logical to me.
It’s not like they’d be forced to ‘capitulate’ on anything major like enrichment, just opening the strait would probably be enough to relieve the blockade and they would still retain the ability to close it again
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tvtowers5 days ago
-1
Trump's position is no enrichment, period. That's never going to happen. They offered to pause enrichment for five years and allow international inspectors in just the other day in their latest offer. What does that leave them to lose by just going ahead with the blockade, imposing strict austerity and squashing dissent?
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itsFelbourne5 days ago
+2
Trumps position is whatever he thinks will benefit him at the moment. If he gets a tit for tat offer to open the strait, he will absolutely seize on it.
It’s unthinkable that he would pass up on the opportunity to claim he “won” by opening the strait if it gave him an off-ramp at this point and he can handwave “Iran agreed to future negotiations” for everything else
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tvtowers5 days ago
+3
I misspoke, the offer to suspend enrichment for 5 years was a month ago. He didn't take that offer, so I don't know what he's doing and he gives no indication that he does, either.
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Gavangus5 days ago
+3
Its better to destroy empty ones versus ones with oil that will cause ecological damage
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tvtowers5 days ago
-3
Better to have not stuck America's crotch into a den of venomous snakes. Nobody has even provided proof that Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon, they don't have a delivery method and some medical applications require enrichment up to 60%, Trump is demanding no enrichment whatsoever.
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cinciTOSU5 days ago
America stuck its d*** in the pickle slicer that is any country with good drone technology. They have been very foolish.
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FlippinHeckles4 days ago
-6
Shooting things that can’t shoot back is not what I would call an accomplishment. I would call it terrorism.
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fec22454 days ago
+4
A blockade is an act of war, the ships were warned to turn around and there's no indication anyone was hurt. it's not terrorism.
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Extra_Box89364 days ago
+3
So it is a war
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FlippinHeckles4 days ago
-4
I thought there was no war? Congress certainly didn’t approve one. I call this for what it is… terrorism.
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fec22454 days ago
+3
Congress hasn't declared war since WW2, it does change the international law analysis.
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FlippinHeckles4 days ago
-4
It does change the analysis, shooting commercial vessels as part of an illegal naval blockade could be seen as state sponsored terror.
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fec22454 days ago
+4
It couldn't.
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Diurnalnugget2 days ago
+1
The rest of the world does not require the US congress’s approval to consider this a war. Internationally it would be a war before terrorism.
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teebird_phreak4 days ago
-2
You cannot trust the American government at all at this point you have to rely on the Iran regime to get the truth
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Old_Soc4 days ago
What the hell was that for?
" Denying the enemy of transportation"
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