Just a reminder for everyone. If your data is hosted in another country, that country can use its legal system to get access to your data if they wanted to. So be careful about what data you have in the cloud and try to keep it local if you can.
That is one reason why the EU pushed to make it illegal for social media to host data about people living in the EU from being hosted outside of the EU.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+173
Another reason why I store NOTHING in the cloud. The cloud is simply another computer/server somewhere else.
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declanaussie4 days ago
+39
It’s still worthwhile to store encrypted backups
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+21
That why I use either a separate hard drive or some other storage device. If one's internet/wifi goes down, they are stuck. I am not.
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Canadian474 days ago
+29
You need a backup off-site in case of fire/flood/theft.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+7
Yes, but it doesn't have to be the cloud. It can be off site servers or drives/storages. Not difficult. [EDIT: meaning it can be your own "cloud" and not 3rd party.]
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Rich-Pomegranate16794 days ago
+22
"It doesn't have to be the cloud. It can be the cloud."
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Canadian474 days ago
+4
And if you in a position to need access to a backup, the internet or Wifi going down is a minor problem.
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shrimpcest4 days ago
+3
For most people, they're local server would be more likely to become inaccessible vs. Google.
Cool, I'm glad you have the time and knowledge to do this, but acting like it's a good option for most people is just naive.
It's like the number of people who bought Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies in order to 'be their own bank' and wound up getting scammed or losing access to their wallet.
People, on average, should not manage things like this unless they're willing to put a LOT of time into it.
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wanderingpeddlar4 days ago
+1
Sooo encrypted and your own machine slipped by you then?
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Rich-Pomegranate16794 days ago
No. It didn't slip by me. Even if it's a machine you own somewhere else it's still "in the cloud."
That said, 99.9% of people don't just have a whole other building or storage area with a server set up, and it's definitely not financially reasonable when compared to existing cloud storage services.
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URPissingMeOff4 days ago
-4
There's no such thing as "cloud". It's stupid marketing buzzword that means "someone else's server"
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Rich-Pomegranate16794 days ago
+4
Cloud is the terminology we use in IT to describe storing data on a remote server, and there are job titles like "Cloud Engineer," so "Cloud" is as real as any other term used to describe something.
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URPissingMeOff3 days ago
-1
I've been a sysadmin for 30 years - long before this "cloud" stupidity got trotted out. It's f****** marketing nonsense. Throwing the term around at every opportunity doesn't make it real. It's bullshit.
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Sacred-Lambkin4 days ago
+2
Ah yes, let me just set up a backup data storage in my second property,
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J_Ryall1 day ago
A safety deposit box costs ~$8/month. Same or cheaper than cloud storage.
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Snarfbuckle4 days ago
+1
Outside of the house, in a watertight and fire proof container with WIFI access.
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URPissingMeOff4 days ago
+1
There are multiple solutions to that. Friend's house/garage, a drawer at work, safety deposit box, etc
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Aazadan4 days ago
-5
You're better off with the data on the cloud for accessibility reasons. Generally there needs to be internet to send data that you might need anyways, and if internet is down long term, power is too so your computer is useless anyways.
Store it online, make a local copy if you want. Use good encryption. Encryption is your best weapon.
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derangedplague4 days ago
+9
Make your own cloud storage. It's kind of easy actually. Look up tutorials on YouTube to create your own network attached storage (NAS).
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Elgard184 days ago
+14
A NAS is great but it's not cloud storage. It's local storage.
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derangedplague4 days ago
-3
... It is cloud storage as you're uploading to it from your home network it is just private and self hosted. You can also access it remotely with approved devices.
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Elgard184 days ago
+13
It will still burn down with your house. I guess unless you set up your own mini data center somewhere but I don't think you can still call it a NAS at that point.
Part of the definition of cloud storage is that it's at a remote location.
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Worldly_Anybody_92194 days ago
+19
It's always the EU with the smart ideas that actually protects their citizens. I'm jealous. Sigh. 😞
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Kingofcheeses4 days ago
+2
What could they realistically do with my data?
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tritiy4 days ago
+2
It's even worse than that. If even one American citizen has access to your data, regardless of where the data is, your data is effectively available to American government.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+243
Most Canadians are Trump critics.
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Kevbot10004 days ago
+143
The moment they announced that they are allowed to go back 5 years of social media and check your phone, I just clued in that I was done with the USA til the rapist is gone.
No f****** way I can delete everything I've ever said about that shit stain.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+37
Besides them possibly crossing a person's right to privacy, I cannot see how it can be legal for any government outside Canada to be allowed access to personal files/information of Canadian citizens. Once again we see the corruption of Trump's government: allowing itself to break laws that would not be allowed to be compromised by anyone outside Trump's domain.
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FoxyInTheSnow4 days ago
+41
Breaking laws has become so natural and normalized for them, asking them not to at this juncture would be like asking a bonobo to stop wanking in public and hurling its shit at passersby… two other things that the trump regime has normalized.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+12
If anyone on the planet sent the US government a spreadsheet that listed everything that they'd say and do if elected, and it was exactly what Trump has said and done; not a single person in government would support them. Yet they follow Trump like the proverbial lemming. The difference is that lemmings do not actually walk off cliffs.
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Kevbot10004 days ago
+10
Trump fucks kids, and has dome everything in his power to protect himself and other pedophiles.
He's also a rapist, and is blowing up the fuel prices all over the world right now in an illegal war that he started to distract from the pedophiles he protected. This is just one of the thousands of horrible things hes done.
I hear your hypothetical a lot lately from people as some sort 'gotcha', but all it does is highlight how absolutely, incomprehensible awful he and his administration are. You can't highlight what he actually HAS done, but just a give a fake hypothetical to pretend people who oppose him are overreacting.
Its been a decade. The facade is over and the rats are fleeing the ship.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+6
No idea if you somehow think I am in favor of Trump, as what I've written clearly shows otherwise. I'm saying that what he has said and done would be unacceptable if it came from anyone else. Worse is that he isn't finished yet.
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ChrisFromIT4 days ago
+12
>I cannot see how it can be legal for any government outside Canada to be allowed access to personal files/information of Canadian citizens
Countries can use their courts and laws to legally access data stored on servers inside their own country. That is why the US could do this.
If Google had stored this Canadian's information on servers in Canada, the US could not legally access the data.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+5
Exactly. And since Canada has a Canadian extension of Google (Google.ca), it's assumed we are separate from the US.
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Krillin1134 days ago
+12
Nope, you actually need legislation for that. The EU telling the tech giants they cannot keep EU data on US servers is so massive.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+4
Did not know that. Thanks for the info!
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Aazadan4 days ago
+2
The tech companies started doing this in response to GDPR to circumvent those laws. In order to keep GDPR enforcable and impactful the EU basically had to take that next step.
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ChrisFromIT4 days ago
+4
Sadly no. All that is, is just a different domain name. And while Google does have offices here in Canada and likely some data centers. There is no guarantee that any data in the Canadian data centers are only in Canadian data centers, unlike the EU which has laws preventing EU citizen's data to be hosted outside the EU.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+2
I think that's correct, but an argument could be made that the files have been stored to what was assumed a Canadian branch without expressed consent to be viewed by parties outside Google. That would be like selling personal information, but for free.
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Aazadan4 days ago
+2
Without legislation from that country saying data collected there can't be sent elsewhere, that's just Google collecting the data and sending it elsewhere within their network. Something they're able to do without laws prohibiting it.
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Aazadan4 days ago
+3
Legality is based on where the data is stored, not who the citizen is. Data stored in Europe will be subject to different laws than data stored in Canada, or stored in the US. Physical server location matters.
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PhabioRants4 days ago
+10
It concerns me how many people are willing to go back once he's gone.
He's just a figurehead. The country is rotten to the core. Anyone who can abide by a multiple felon running their country, let alone everything he's guilty of since his return to power, and y'know, the child r***, is so warped beyond redemption that I can't see myself ever going back to a country like that.
If someone came in tomorrow and ousted him, tried everyone affiliated with his government, ICE, croneys, corrupt corporations, market manipulators, grifters, etc. and absolutely everyone was convicted under a suite of RICO charges to put them all away for life, I feel I'd give it at least 20 years to see which was the wind was blowing before I even thought about going back.
If all that happened AND they ended world hunger tomorrow, I still wouldn't trust anyone for at least three terms.
As it stands, I'm 40 now. I can't see things playing out in any way that would see me return in my lifetime.
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madhi194 days ago
+3
Yep not gonna bother going again even when the rapist is gone... They knowingly re-elected him. He's not the problem, he's the f****** symptom.
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Aazadan4 days ago
+3
It doesn't matter if you can delete it, that's what they're hoping for. It's a tool to remove criticism of them.
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Krissybear934 days ago
+2
The US has had the right to inspect computer files, phones and social media posts for like 10+ years when crossing the border - it's not new with Trump. He doesn't get to take credit for it.
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joelmercer4 days ago
+9
When governments make it a requirement that their data is stored in data centers in their own country. This is why.
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MentalPatient4 days ago
+4
Most of the world hates Trump and are critics
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Bytowneboy24 days ago
+3
I have notes.
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CHEVIEWER12 days ago
+3
They are going to kidnap the entire Country of Canada.
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talligan4 days ago
+5
I say this on behalf of all Canadians: Donald Trump is a f****** imbecile and threat to the world order. And if you voted for him twice then you're also a f****** imbecile and have your head so far up your own a****** that you're in danger of burning your throat from the stomach acid.
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boboman9114 days ago
+2
All? Have you been to rural Nova Scotia?
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Mythran124 days ago
+6
All Canadians are trump critics
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+16
Oh I wish it were true. I have friends and family in Canada who are deceived by this con man. (Examples: one claimed Trump NEVER LIED! Another implied that the videos of those two people ICE ended in Minneapolis "may have been AI fakes." I REALLY wish the delusion wasn't so undeniable. )
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Mythran124 days ago
+11
🤦♂️ We need to double down on our public education.
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Wild4fire4 days ago
+7
> Oh I wish it were true
It happens not only in Canada...
I'm Dutch and even over here there actually are Trump supporters. I really don't understand that...
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URPissingMeOff4 days ago
+6
They live in Alberta, don't they?
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Ok-Crow-15154 days ago
+68
Just one? Most of the Canadian population criticizes that ass everyday.
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MegaMaster10214 days ago
+50
"Please Google they made fun of us"
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chocolateboomslang4 days ago
+50
It's me, an unidentified trump critic.
There are dozens of us.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+23
I disagree. There are probably MILLIONS of you (of us). 🥸👍(that's me incognito)
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akpenguin4 days ago
+7
83 thousand dozens in a million.
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mido_sama4 days ago
+147
Are we becoming the new North Korea.
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FrothyEspresso4 days ago
+198
No, that would require healthcare and free university.
You’re the new Third Reich.
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Mobile-Bar77324 days ago
+52
> You’re the new Third Reich.
Stephen Miller would agree.
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tabrizzi4 days ago
+9
X Reich?
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Notorious_Chonk_234 days ago
+3
Nah i think this is still just the IV Reich
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URPissingMeOff4 days ago
+3
So...The Fourth Reich then?
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Orikazu4 days ago
+1
Burger reich
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
-2
Actually, North Korea has one of the worst health care and schooling in existence. The US is somewhere between Canada and North Korea.
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FrothyEspresso4 days ago
+18
Other than the brainwashing, I have a bit of a hard time believing the schooling there is truly that bad. I’ll give some examples below.
Their citizens (not sure if they’re hackers and cybercriminals) are now working for US companies illegally. They have to have been trained somehow to actually perform complex work after passing interviews?
They’re very good at crypto thefts and concealment. I haven’t heard of Cubans doing the same under the embargo, nor Eritrea, etc.
They produce nuclear weapons and have built up their arsenal to something like 70+ warheads. That’s wild considering I can remember them having maybe 3-5 before.
They have ballistic missiles capable of striking far distances. They also launch satellites.
They build submarines and other sea-craft.
They manufactured and sold millions of artillery shells to the Russians.
Although it is heavily skewed to military, these are complex businesses that require machining, engineering, etc.
I don’t think idiots could develop all of that under severe sanctions. They’re quite smart and cunning to do all of this to be honest. It’s impressive.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+4
There are a certain number of citizens in North Korea that, compared to the general population, would be considered elite and privileged. These receive what, to them, would be adequate healthcare and propaganda infused schooling. The general population live in abject poverty. School? Propaganda infused: yes. Healthcare? Good luck with that. The worst conditions. Literally near or at the bottom compared to the rest of the world.
The US, in spite of their many advances in medicine and the level of care they "can" provide, it is almost out of reach of the average citizen unless they view bankruptcy or poverty as a life goal.
In Canada, medicine and Healthcare is comparable to the US. We may have slightly longer wait times, but we keep our house after a triple bypass.
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tabrizzi4 days ago
+5
>There are a certain number of citizens in North Korea that, compared to the general population, would be considered elite and privileged.
True of any country.
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+4
Yes, but have you ever spent even an hour or two studying up about North Korea? Or read/heard testimonies of individuals who have managed to escape the country? It makes Russia look like a utopia.
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react_dev4 days ago
+3
But you’re listening to a very biased population. I’m an American born Chinese and when I’m in China, I hear expats knock on their home country in all kinds of ways.
If you follow Chinas progress from the 60s to the 90s, they basically went from a worse North Korea to a global power. We dont have a lot of daily news from North Korea only stereotypes from their famine days. So we just dont know.
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URPissingMeOff4 days ago
+5
The US has the finest health care on the planet, but only billionaires and politicians can afford it. Don't confuse health care with the parasitic health care insurance industry
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DeDeluded4 days ago
+1
> Actually, North Korea has one of the worst health care and schooling in existence.
I dunno, they pulled the teeth of the entire population in 24 hours :)
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Fit-Let81754 days ago
+10
If you're speaking as a Canadian? No. As an American? I'd say you're heading in that direction.
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NostalgiaJunkie2 days ago
+2
I don't know, was that a question or a statement?
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PsiNorm4 days ago
+26
Are they on to me? It's not like I'm hiding. I'm not a right wing coward who hides my post history.
Oh well. If I'm on a list, the list of those who are on the right side of history is not a bad list to be on.
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RarelyReadReplies4 days ago
+8
Agreed, it is what it is. We might as well congregate online and speak out while we still can. Everything is going to go really bad if we don't get it together soon.
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browneyedgirlpie4 days ago
+23
Now I want to read all his stuff.
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ElvisArcher4 days ago
+20
FFS, throw a pebble out your window and you're probably going to hit a trump critic.
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fiverowdymutts4 days ago
+9
Your comment made me chuckle. We live in the countryside, a red county. However, I’m finding there are more blue folks than I originally thought. 💙🩵💙
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SerGT34 days ago
+23
It's me. F*** Donald Dump
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Toadfinger4 days ago
+15
Trump critics are the most important people in the world right now!
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Rogue_AI_Construct4 days ago
+24
Google better not comply. Everyone has the right to criticize that demented, insurrectionist piece of shit rapist and pedophile.
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Realtrain4 days ago
+1
Google will almost certainly comply.
I'm not a huge fan of Apple's ecosystem, but this really is an area where they shine above all.
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Rogue_AI_Construct4 days ago
+15
LOL good lord. I see Apple's marketing has got you fooled.
[https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/21/apple-tim-cook-privacy](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/21/apple-tim-cook-privacy)
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victhebutcher20204 days ago
+11
Come get me Trump, you pedophile piece of shit
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gachunt4 days ago
+11
All 35 million of them?
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Hellstorm9014 days ago
+8
Trump is a dictator and needs removed from office
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AverageJoe-7074 days ago
+8
I guess this Canadian critic hurt the the Piggy's feelings.
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steathrazor4 days ago
+7
I bet they do, dictators don't like criticism and truth
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ZachMN4 days ago
+8
Republicanism is fascism.
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akpenguin4 days ago
+22
Administrative subpoena sounds made up. I would definitely ignore it.
If it's not coming from a court, signed by a judge, it shouldn't be legal to use "subpoena" as a name for a document.
Same thing goes for a warrant. ICE loves using their "administrative warrants" as a legitimate-sounding thing to scare people into compliance, but means f*** all legally.
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CrabAppleGateKeeper4 days ago
-7
\>Administrative subpoena sounds made up. I would definitely ignore it.
\>If it's not coming from a court, signed by a judge, it shouldn't be legal to use "subpoena" as a name for a document.
Like a congressional subpoena sounds made up?
\>Same thing goes for a warrant. ICE loves using their "administrative warrants" as a legitimate-sounding thing to scare people into compliance, but means f*** all legally.
US law and SC rulings certainly disagree with you for that one.
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Ok_Advantage_51474 days ago
+13
We need to litter all online data as a sea of AI generated d*** pics so it’s worthless.
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captsmokeywork4 days ago
+9
They are coming for me.
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And f*** Trump the senile pedo king.
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brickyardjimmy4 days ago
+5
I look forward to building the Tomb of the Unknown Trump Critic so we can all have a place to mourn.
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BurlyKnave4 days ago
+4
Great, our insecure narcissist in chief is now looking for excuses to attack Canada
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lafarda4 days ago
+4
They just said it out loud this time. They can't be subtle about anything.
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Shawn_The_Sheep7771 day ago
+4
You’ve got to love freedom of speech in America these days. It only seems to apply to members of the MAGA cult
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Kyr-Shara4 days ago
+4
Mark Carney so they can do another kidnapping of a country's leader
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DividedState3 days ago
+4
Gestapo bullshit. Great.... Can we fast forward to the bunker scene please?
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YouDotty4 days ago
+3
America, the World Police at it again.
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CHEVIEWER12 days ago
+3
They will never disclose the Canadien Prime Minister’s burner account
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Life-Sun-22 hr ago
+3
Why the rest of the world urgently needs digital sovereignty.
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mysticzoom4 days ago
+2
Go f*** yourself...
Nevermind. They did that already.
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thebarkbarkwoof4 days ago
+2
That tells me they already have all of ours. They're coming for us.
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fiendishrabbit4 days ago
+2
I'm Spartacus!*
*Canadian identity not included
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Knightfires4 days ago
+2
Let me translate. The US Government is really hurting by talk talks from a person they can’t control. And like the pathetic little man child he is. Is now directing the government in pursuit of this individual.
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wildemam4 days ago
+2
Google has everything on everyone. The dark ess that follows will be senile.
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barrel-boy4 days ago
+2
Holy shit I hope he doesn't want to know about Australia too 🤣
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Zhelthan4 days ago
+2
Good were the times were only a nickname was necessary to interact with what you liked. Then greedy corps joined internet to farm money on people data
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MichaelHunt0094 days ago
+2
It's obviously a national security priority. Like the bunker needed underneath the new Epstein Ballroom.
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LinoleumFulcrum3 days ago
+2
Dear Leader can leave anytime now. Thx
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TokenBearer4 days ago
+2
How do they know? Unlike other countries, there is no requirement to notify Canadians outside of PIPEDA, and it can even be suppressed with PIPEDA
This is why LOVEINT still happens here.
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