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News & Current Events Apr 10, 2026 at 3:44 PM

US has let in 4,499 refugees since October - all but three were South African

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US has let in 4,499 refugees since October - all but three were South African
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US has let in 4,499 refugees since October - all but three were South African
Trump has given priority to Afrikaners, a white minority group he says is being persecuted. South Africa has objected to his characterisation.
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DanS1993 Apr 10, 2026 +4901
The other three were from Afghanistan for anyone interested. 
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Yvaelle Apr 10, 2026 +2033
Were they the three richest people in Afghanistan?
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generally_unsuitable Apr 10, 2026 +2574
No, but they were the three whitest.
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benmichaelx Apr 10, 2026 +605
Why aren’t the three richest people in Afghanistan also the three whitest? Is it because of DEI?
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thePedrix Apr 10, 2026 +183
Utter woke nonsense
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Chicken_wingspan Apr 10, 2026 +28
r/soccer is leaking
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mrgonzalez Apr 10, 2026 +23
Has no one shown them how white Iranians are?
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Throwaway74829947 Apr 10, 2026 +22
Many if not most people in Afghanistan are relatively white, at least compared to most other places the US has invaded.
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SaintBobby_Barbarian Apr 10, 2026 +4
Dude, some folks over there can look super euro/white. Remnants of Indo-European migrations that moved into central and then south asia. The pamiri people are such a group of people (speak an east iranic set of languages) high up in the mountains of pakistan, so little admixture from outside groups
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Agile_Perception_604 Apr 10, 2026 +7
I think you’d be surprised at just how many Afghans could pass for a suburb dwelling wasp after a shave and change of clothes.
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Groomsi Apr 10, 2026 +10
Maybe they were the ones negotiating so Talibans took control?
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redterrqr Apr 10, 2026 +82
Thanks, I was interested. Anything special about these three?
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Whiterabbit-- Apr 10, 2026 +60
I'm guessing its delayed paperwork, or something specific about their military service.
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DunderMifflinNashua Apr 10, 2026 +76
Maybe the last of the interpreters?
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spooooork Apr 10, 2026 +82
These guys? >[ICE released an Afghan interpreter after three months in detention. Now officers have arrested his teenage son](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-arrest-connecticut-high-school-student-b2955516.html)
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Climatize Apr 10, 2026 +10
ew, sprinkle some crack on them quickly lol /s
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Turakamu Apr 10, 2026 +15
*motions with his hands that they have large breast*
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Dancing_RN Apr 10, 2026 +12
Huge tracts of land.
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SteveTheUPSguy Apr 10, 2026 +171
In addition to the refugees 15,000 South Africans were granted work visas. These are people with actual farms, assets, and employees. I personally know a social worker who helped with one of these refugees. Had an entitled sense of what they deserved from the govt housing vouchers in California and decided to move to Texas.
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BobsOblongLongBong Apr 10, 2026 +109
>Had an entitled sense of what they deserved from the govt housing vouchers in California and decided to move to Texas. Lol at anyone thinking they'll have better luck accessing state assistance in Texas.
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wwj Apr 10, 2026 +86
Yeah, only three people trying to escape Afghanistan makes sense. It's pretty stable and safe now. /s
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jiir_mesou Apr 10, 2026 +56
they were acused of helping the American troops, so they seek a way to leave
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Man_Darino13 Apr 10, 2026 +10
And that was back in November.
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rTpure Apr 10, 2026 +9531
Let me guess, all white South Africans
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jetforcegemini Apr 10, 2026 +2606
Ding ding ding
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TheDonJonJay Apr 10, 2026 +1198
its a genocide bru trust bru being white in south afreeeka is hard bru
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hotviolets Apr 10, 2026 +354
That’s why Elon musk and Peter Thiel became Nazis.
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gomezer1180 Apr 10, 2026 +138
Yeah they know the “struggle”
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Imavomitlover Apr 10, 2026 +50
Elon bought the moon and millions of morons think he created it.
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pha5matis Apr 10, 2026 +126
Boet, okes that post kak like that dont think lekka.
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unforgiven91 Apr 10, 2026 +8
ask grok bru
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BP619 Apr 10, 2026 +103
I would have gone Seth Effreeka.
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Any_Target830 Apr 10, 2026 +3
My buddy Johann would tell me to say "siff iffrika"
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Real-Ad-1728 Apr 10, 2026 +67
You know something tells me South Africa isn’t sad to see them go lol
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MistressAnthrope Apr 10, 2026 +41
We're calling it The Great Tsek
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Copthill Apr 10, 2026 +27
We're not sending our best.
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AKAFallow Apr 10, 2026 +15
Its so funny because you also got the richest white man in South Africa being like "uh, there's no genocide, sir" to Trump when he ambushed his president last year lol. Like, its hilarious how off guard he got from that.
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ThrownAwayGuineaPig Apr 10, 2026 +12
It's so kak. Just spent 2 weeks in the Eastern Cape. Kayak, snorkel, swim, good food, good friends So kak.
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swingadmin Apr 10, 2026 +31
"Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is still an ugly thing" - Afrikaans saying
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Toxicscrew Apr 10, 2026 +1049
And many have returned back to SA citing the US as being too expensive, not having socialized heath care and being too violent.
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Calm-Preparation7432 Apr 10, 2026 +682
wow! i looked this up and [you're right](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-white-south-africans-are-persecuted-some-are-returning-better-life-2026-03-11/). "african refugees leaving US" is not what i expected for the 2020s
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FrOdOMojO94 Apr 10, 2026 +131
There is a slight misrepresentation since those returning to SA emigrated to the US before the Trump 'refugee' program started.
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Calm-Preparation7432 Apr 10, 2026 +70
The Reuters article includes information that demonstrates an increase in interest in return, which I'll include below. [This article](https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/first-afrikaner-refugee-returns-to-south-africa-resettlement-programme/) describes the first known refugee to return home (after her family didn't move with her) and includes reasoning on why refugees might face barriers to travel from USCIS, impeding their ability to repatriate. "Two recruitment agencies that help expats relocate said the number of inquiries had jumped, and Reuters spoke to 10 South Africans who had either returned or were planning to, seven of them from across Europe and three from the United States." "Anton van Heerden, CEO of employment agency DNA Employer of Record, said inquiries from white South Africans seeking to return had jumped 70% in the past six months. Angel Jones, CEO of Johannesburg-based recruitment firm HomecomingEx, reported a roughly 30% rise in inquiries since 2024."
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FrOdOMojO94 Apr 10, 2026 +15
Thanks very much for the article. I hadn't heard of a case of a 'refugee' choosing to return to SA.
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EffektieweEffie Apr 10, 2026 +17
Thats a massive misrepresentation.
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YomiKuzuki Apr 10, 2026 +46
This is both so f****** funny and so f****** sad.
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Niceromancer Apr 10, 2026 +10
They expected to be propped up by musk and trump.  Given cushy jobs and a fast track to wealth and prosperity. Once the photo ops were done they were abandoned.
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paxrom2 Apr 10, 2026 +330
They were expecting free housing and a stipend. LOL
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metaldrummerx Apr 10, 2026 +275
Wait you mean that the US government isn’t giving immigrants free money, free healthcare, allowing them to steal jobs, and aren’t a burden to people living in bumfuck nowhere??? I am SHOCKED!
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TurbulentBat8328 Apr 10, 2026 +24
A lot of them were from bumfuck nowhere in South Africa also. 
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Osirus1156 Apr 10, 2026 +59
They probably listened to conservative propaganda about migrants. 
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relevantelephant00 Apr 10, 2026 +6
They also probably think it'll be good for them because MAGA is trying to bring back apartheid.
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EffektieweEffie Apr 10, 2026 +14
None of those things are available to them in South Africa either so idk.
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Eisernes Apr 10, 2026 +28
Certain US “news” outlets have been lying for years that immigrants are being given everything they want for free. They are the onion, then the leopards ate their face.
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A_wild_so-and-so Apr 10, 2026 +108
I remember an article not too long ago about some SA refugees who were being housed in roach infested motels who had to walk everywhere in a town with no public transit. It definitely wasn't the welcome they were expecting, but that's usually what happens to the pawns that Trump plays with.
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TheFrostynaut Apr 10, 2026 +58
They got the true American experience of bad public infrastructure and inadequate housing.
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MamaBearForestWitch Apr 10, 2026 +10
But without the immigrant experience of being judged for the color of your skin...
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Whiterabbit-- Apr 10, 2026 +20
if you are refugee and your life back home was in imminent danger, living in roach infested hotels isn't so bad.
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Norm_Standart Apr 10, 2026 +29
Yeah, if they were actually refugees.
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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 Apr 10, 2026 +14
The only imminent danger I see is if these Afrikaners were acting like bigoted, racist plantation owners ignoring that Apartheid there ended more than 30 years ago. It's my guess they were the equivalent of MAGA here in the US.
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Mysterious_Donut_702 Apr 10, 2026 +44
America: We mostly lack the sprawling slums, and "poorest of the poor literally starving" absolute poverty... but still have plenty of inequality, crime and social issues that would make a South African feel imperfectly at home. For a rich Afrikaaner used to gated communities, backyard swimming pools, poor people to exploit as c**** housekeepers, and a much lower cost of living... our middle class might even be a downgrade. We'd be a huge upgrade for someone stuck living in South Africa's informal settlements though.
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oreo-cat- Apr 10, 2026 +27
Not ZA but I've worked with people from other countries that at 40 had literally never cooked. Like didn't know what to do with pans levels of 'can't cook'. They'd always had a cook, same with laundry and cleaning.
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that_f_dude Apr 10, 2026 +10
That's pretty much it, even "rich" SAers are like eff this, I got a plot of land, a house cleaner, a gardener and a nanny back home. They can't find a foot hold here to support that same lifestyle
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peon2 Apr 10, 2026 +27
That's laughable. Modern day South Africa is the closest thing we currently have to France just pre-revolution with a 32% unemployment rate and the highest Gini coefficient in the world.
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Copthill Apr 10, 2026 +12
8% for the whites.
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Sea_Public_6691 Apr 10, 2026 +22
Yeah, but not for white people.
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Zombie_Cool Apr 10, 2026 +23
Is South Africa allowed to declare "LOL no takebacks"?
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Bytewave Apr 10, 2026 +15
No, that's not allowed, to protect legitimate refugees. Refugees are always supposed to be able to return when the conditions are safe, they are still citizens of their home countries. Many don't want to go back but that's another story.
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Parking-Interview351 Apr 10, 2026 +25
South Africa is way more violent than the US. Cost of living differences makes sense though.
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OldAccountIsGlitched Apr 10, 2026 +18
That really depends on where you are in the country. If you stick to wealthier areas you're much less likely to get exposed to serious violence. Cape Town has some of the world's worst gang violence but it's basically limited to about five suburbs.
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Fun-Twist-3705 Apr 10, 2026 +9
> That really depends on where you are in the country Well.. there is not a lot of violent crimes in much of the US as well so how is that an argument? Even the safer areas in South Africa are quite dangerous by American standards.
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LeticiaPadillaSolis_ Apr 10, 2026 +227
I met one in Iowa while visiting two weeks ago who was driving for Lyft. He said he was returning to SA in the summer. Oh my goodness he was rude, mean, said offensive things the entire ride. It was more the older bitter lonely man who was clearly rejected by the local women. He went on a full rant the entire ride complaining about going to the grocery store because the local women were like hogs. He literally made squealing noises. Guarantee every woman he’s probably tried to hit on in Cedar Rapids has rightfully told him to f*** right off. Mind you I’m Hispanic so I was just waiting to see what he’d say about me. It was like he kept trying to just poke and poke to see if I’d say something back. Then as he was dropping me off at the hotel he told me to request him again for a ride. LOL
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suicide_nooch Apr 10, 2026 +49
I have a really good friend (Afrikaner) who immigrated here 35 years ago. Her family worked hard, developed businesses from the ground up, paid taxes and it still took them 12 years to get citizenship. They were also highly intelligent and kind, caring people. I was asking her about these immigrants and she basically told me it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised.
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aqtseacow Apr 10, 2026 +8
>it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised. Not even remotely, most of the people coming from SA aren't in a comparable economic cohort to your typical trailer park folks. These people are for the most part used to gated, private communities. Its why there's easy pickings for the media to point out the ones that are returning.
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_Burning_Star_IV_ Apr 10, 2026 +122
I've met more than a few foreigners who have this idea before they come here that most American women (especially in the coastal cities) are 10/10 pornstars who will f*** anything that moves and then get really disappointed and angry when that turns out to be incorrect when they get here. Movies are to blame? The p*** they watch? Idk.
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Tall_poppee Apr 10, 2026 +89
To be fair, some US men think women should look like p*** stars and only be interested in f****** them too. They are usually found in far right religious groups, but they're here too.
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princesspuffer Apr 10, 2026 +17
Exactly! I grew up Mormon, and many boys were told on their mission "the more baptisms you get, the hotter your wife will be."
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ValuableOven734 Apr 10, 2026 +5
I tell them that is God's plan for the non religious. The plan for him is to watch.
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GreatMovesKeepItUp69 Apr 10, 2026 +49
The movies don't communicate how truly awful the obesity epidemic in America is compared to pretty much anywhere in Asia or Europe. Ive worked with a lot of foreign visitors before and I've heard it a lot usually in hushed tones.
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Expensive_Law_3180 Apr 10, 2026 +12
This is a fact. My sister and I are the only two members of our family who have a BMI in the normal range, and we got bullied so damn much for it, both of us cut the family off 15 years ago.
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Lazydusto Apr 10, 2026 +19
Your family bullied you for *not* being overweight? What the hell?
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DizzyAsparagus9622 Apr 10, 2026 +16
I'm not an american but I live in a border town in Canada (Niagara), not even close to a coastal US city and I get way and I mean way way more matches and meetings and hookups with US women (through dating apps) compared to Canadians. It's not even a comparison. Say what you will about US women but they are not scared to meet with a non-white man. Wherever I visit US inland, it's the same thing, get more matches and meetings. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in a major US city like NYC or LA. Must be awesome. Edit: u/carlysimonsays sorry the post is locked so can't reply. Obviously things are not as good for cross border travel but I cross the border 2 times a month approx. Sometimes once or twice within a week and it has been ok so far. Less crazy in this corner of the USA. (Hopefully I haven't jinxed it)
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Copthill Apr 10, 2026 +6
Worked for that guy in Love Actually.
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CarlySimonSays Apr 10, 2026 +3
I actually feel a bit bad for Kris Marshall that that dumb character is what most Americans know him for. He's brilliant in the early seasons of "My Family" and the several detective shows he's been in.
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grchelp2018 Apr 10, 2026 +8
Movies for sure. Hollywood gives a totally warped view of how things are.
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rocketbunny77 Apr 10, 2026 +20
The whole poking to see if you're as racist as them is the typical south African racist way. Try living there. Good god
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Alive_Internet Apr 10, 2026 +128
Last year on X, Elon Musk was really pushing for this because of how they were allegedly treated (with some using the word “genocided”) in South Africa.
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SpleenBender Apr 10, 2026 +114
I don't know how mister *nazi salute* is trying to tell anybody *anything* about morality.
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robodrew Apr 10, 2026 +45
Elon Musk is a f****** Nazi
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tomdarch Apr 10, 2026 +10
Trump played a nonsense white propaganda video in the White House claiming this false genocide thing. The head of state of South Africa brought white propaganda golfers to his meeting with Trump so that Trump would actually listen to them explain reality.
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BasvanS Apr 10, 2026 +7
It was genocide! They were not allowed to be Nazis, hating people of color, and f****** their cousins. If you can’t even do that, what is freedom even worth?
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kitsunewarlock Apr 10, 2026 +10
Our administration is literally just basing policies off old 4chan memes.
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Beneneb Apr 10, 2026 +34
To me, I don't think there is any more clear example of the racism of the current administration. I guess it's a sign of the times that this has barely been reported on.
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AmbassadorCrazy7905 Apr 10, 2026 +16
It's literally our trailer park trash, our farmer are way too rich and live so well they would never ever leave SA, also they have pride. Our serious farmers here have private plane money, they not giving that up to live in some backwater
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GearBrain Apr 10, 2026 +23
Literally building a fifth column of white supremacists.
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PlutoJones42 Apr 10, 2026 +3
Elon asked daddy Trump to bring over all his poo persecuted Nazi friends because their government didn’t like them being Nazis anymore
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Walter_West Apr 10, 2026 +255
As a South African, it feels so weird to have been a main character for a bit during Trumps presidency but that feels like it happened a decade ago
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Wadarkhu Apr 10, 2026 +56
How do you guys feel about all these people leaving for America? Is it a "good riddance" thing?
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Zefrem23 Apr 10, 2026 +179
Yes. They're people who think the grass will be greener on the other side of the hill, because they convince themselves they have a hard life here in South Africa. Meanwhile they live lives of extreme privilege, with awesome weather, largely affordable high quality nutritious food, live in maids for all but the lowest of the lower middle class, and virtually zero police presence in most places. They convince themselves that life is somehow terrible here because previously disadvantaged people are now allowed to be on the same social footing as them. As I've said for years, when you're used to being told you're better than everyone else, equality looks like oppression.
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Wadarkhu Apr 10, 2026 +30
Welp, when they leave - more for you, and more for the previous disadvantaged people too. Also, live-in maids is wild, I can't imagine something like that being so common lol.
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do_pm_me_your_butt Apr 10, 2026 +22
There are serious issues in our country, I do not fault anyone for leaving to hope for a better life for their family. Im choosing to stay, this is my country, I will try improve it, and if needs be, fight for it.
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overfiend1976 Apr 10, 2026 +2777
MAGA loves the idea of having apartheid at home.
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hoppertn Apr 10, 2026 +561
I feel like Americans abroad are going to be treated like White South Africans abroad from 1970-1994.
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o_MrBombastic_o Apr 10, 2026 +666
We deserve it, unfortunately it's mostly liberals who will get the brunt of it MAGA generally don't leave their shithole states
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not_so_chi_couple Apr 10, 2026 +240
Liberal Americans have known for years that when you are travelling internationally, you are Canadian
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doyouhavehiminblonde Apr 10, 2026 +99
I actually am Canadian and trust me we get lumped together when I tell people I’m Canadian not American.
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VisitingPeanut48 Apr 10, 2026 +45
I must admit that my opinion of Canada has dipped a bit over the years. I had an online friend from Canada and the impression I got from him was that it's very much America-lite. He lived in Alberta though, so make of that what you will
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TesseractThief Apr 10, 2026 +89
All you needed to say was that he lives in Alberta so likely maple MAGA. 99% of us Canadians hate them with a passion Edit: I should clarify - if the online friend was acting like an ‘American lite’ then he’s likely a maple MAGA (which 99% of Canadians hate). By no means are all Albertans maple MAGAs - only a small but obnoxiously loud amount are.
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deschamps93 Apr 10, 2026 +21
There a lot of good albertans out here who do not agree with the rhetoric. Look even at the miniscule traction of the petition vs our total populace. But yeah. The shitty ones are shit
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Nu-Hir Apr 10, 2026 +6
Alberta is just Texas of the north.
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spare_me_your_bs Apr 10, 2026 +6
99% of Canadians hate an entire province? Is this true? Granted, the only things I know about Alberta is oil and 'berta beef (Letterkenny).
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TesseractThief Apr 10, 2026 +13
99% of Canadians hate the minuscule amount of maple MAGAs, who are mostly in Alberta but are not by any means a majority of the province.  Should’ve clarified. 
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doyouhavehiminblonde Apr 10, 2026 +6
Yeah I live in Toronto which is pretty different but our Premier sucks so I can’t say Ontario is super progressive either.
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ArkitekZero Apr 10, 2026 +4
Alberta is like the Canadian analog for Texas.
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hotviolets Apr 10, 2026 +9
I was in a Canadian housing sub because I was thinking about moving to Canada, I accidentally joined the more right wing one. They are definitely America-lite in a lot of ways. There was so much racism and rhetoric that got us where we are today in the US.
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Actual_System8996 Apr 10, 2026 +9
Always thought that was lame. Kids were doing it when I was backpacking around Europe around 2010. Own where you’re from, the good and bad. It’s not that hard to agree with people about the shitty aspects about America. This collective escapism and ignoring of our problems by the people who recognize them is part of the problem.
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doyouhavehiminblonde Apr 10, 2026 +6
I think it’s lame too. Anyone with a brain knows not all Americans are ignorant or horrible. I’ve met a lot of great people from the US. Just don’t call me American lol
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squuidlees Apr 10, 2026 +21
I am a terrible liar and it’s written all over my face when I do. I can’t use that excuse abroad. So I just say California and hope my actions of respecting the place I’m visiting will speak louder than the world’s disdain of where I’m from.
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Darth_Nox501 Apr 10, 2026 +28
Same. "Where you from?" "New York" Never had a problem lol.
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zack77070 Apr 10, 2026 +28
In the real world: "Where you from?" "Texas" "Do you ride horses to school." Nobody actually gives a f*** if you're American if you don't come off as an a****** and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways. I have met Russians against Putin, I don't automatically associate a nations crimes with random people on the street.
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MottoScotto Apr 10, 2026 +7
This. When I've traveled internationally, the most "c***" I've gotten is jokes about various crazy things (mostly Trump and school shootings) happening in America. No one has ever been rude. Just be a nice person and people will treat you nicely.
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NCC75567 Apr 10, 2026 +4
> Nobody actually gives a f*** if you're American if you don't come off as an a****** and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways. Yep, granted, I haven't been abroad since the second shit show began, but as an Oklahoman that's been my experience. Spent 2 weeks in Paris a few years ago. None of them cared that I was American. None of the Americans (mostly from Boston and other NE cities) on my all-day bus tour to Normandy cared that I was from Oklahoma. My family was just nice, normal people interacting with other nice, normal people. In all my time traveling to Europe, California, and the east coast, I've only run into one loser from Virginia that thought his meth jokes were super funny.
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mummy__napkin Apr 10, 2026 +38
Speak for yourselves. I'm a lib and have no shame saying I'm American when I'm abroad and people ask. I'm not gonna apologize or feel shame for having no choice in where I was born. And to be totally honest, lying about being Canadian is a b**** move that I'm sure real Canadians don't appreciate. Just enjoy your vacation and stop worrying about the opinions of people you're never going to see again and who likely don't actually care where you're from.
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uacoop Apr 10, 2026 +18
I have spent a lot of time on language exchange apps, so I've had the opportunity to speak to a lot of people from a lot of different countries. I think many Americans have an outsized expectation about how much people from other countries think or care about the US or what's going on with them politically, especially outside of the anlgosphere. In my experience, most people are just living their own lives, doing their own thing, maybe they'll hear something about it on the news every once in a while, but unless it impacts them directly, they probably couldn't care less. Which I think makes a lot of sense, honestly. I mean...many people *inside* the US don't even engage with what's going on here (big problem btw), so why do we expect people from other countries to.
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reddituser403 Apr 10, 2026 +19
And you're still not fooling anyone
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LandonDev Apr 10, 2026 +45
Most people seem to understand the difference, the world in general has a lot of bigotry but as long as you are polite and don't disrespect their culture you'll have nothing but great interactions with others.
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RobertMcCheese Apr 10, 2026 +34
Back in the late 80s I was in a pub in Amsterdam with my brother. We were having a good time and just acting like normal people out at a bar. When they were about to close the bartender called us over and handed us each a Canadian flag pins. So I put it on my hat since it was a gift and why would you be a d*** about a weird gift from someone in a bar? It wasn't until months later that I realized what that was all about. Edit: My brother reminded me that we were travelling all over Europe while the World Cup was in Italy and that is why we didn't go to Italy. So we'd sight see all day and then find a bar in the evening to watch the games.
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MilesAlchei Apr 10, 2026 +11
Forgive me, I'm still not sure I get it, were they giving you a "oh youre ok" pass or was it ridicule?
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matt-er-of-fact Apr 10, 2026 +14
You’re ok. Now wear this so you aren’t treated like the assholes your country is known for.
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forgetit1243 Apr 10, 2026 +4
What was it all about?
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SteveMemeChamp Apr 10, 2026 +7
Canadians are left leaning and nice compared to Americans i think
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forgetit1243 Apr 10, 2026 +5
So like “you seem nice, wear these and people will just assume you’re nice” ? Edit: truly I’m not like trying to be dumb here or anything maybe it’s cuz I just woke up, I’m just genuinely confused by this
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imnohankhill Apr 10, 2026 +21
If anything people are pleasantly surprised when they meet Americans who arnt assholes.
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GastricallyStretched Apr 10, 2026 +18
I know that about half of Americans (probably more than half) are totally normal people that didn't want any of this shit. I'm not *surprised* when I meet nice Americans, but more relieved that the d20 landed correctly and didn't give me an American with a Maga debuff.
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Captain_Futile Apr 10, 2026 +3
The story was from late 80’s. Many American tourists were seen as insufferable assholes long before Trump.
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Veggies-are-okay Apr 10, 2026 +7
Yeah in my travels abroad I get more “I’m so sorry” rather than “f*** yous.” The latter are just little people who have little worldviews and would probably be trumpers if they were born in the US 🤷‍♂️ Probably does help that I explicitly tell people I’m from California when asked.
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jaytix1 Apr 10, 2026 +6
In my experience (I'm from the Caribbean) Americans are usually well-behaved, so they might avoid getting lumped together with those dipshits lol.
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J5892 Apr 10, 2026 +13
I was in Oslo a few weeks after the whole Nobel prize tantrum. We were treated great the whole time we were there, but when we were leaving a clothing shop once, the cashier said, "Hey can you get rid of Trump for us when you get back?" We were like "Dude, sorry, we're trying."
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jankenpoo Apr 10, 2026 +19
Southern Democrats were so hysterical at LBJ for passing the Civil Rights Act ending segregation that they turned Republican after that and never went back. (Republicans also saw the opportunity and leaned hard into appealing to the racists.) That is the foundation for the modern GOP and MAGA so you are 100% correct
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ScrrrewFace Apr 10, 2026 +21
The “Great Again” aspect of MAGA…returning to apartheid, known here in the US during pre Civil Rights era, as Jim Crow.
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GourdonHamsey Apr 10, 2026 +3
maga is going full scorch earth bc the Pope asked for peace.
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DinoDonkeyDoodle Apr 10, 2026 +9
Wait until they realize they are not on the side of apartheid they want.
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livy-aurelia Apr 10, 2026 +5
how so? they’re mostly white
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DinoDonkeyDoodle Apr 10, 2026 +3
Ju$t a hunch i$ all.
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Outrageous_Space8083 Apr 10, 2026 +1215
The word “Refugee” is doing some serious heavy lifting there
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Efficient_Carrot_669 Apr 10, 2026 +224
What are they seeking refuge from? Am I just really out of the loop?
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TheTim Apr 10, 2026 +94
This American Life did an episode about it that covers the topic pretty well. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/872/winners
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porygonj Apr 10, 2026 +300
Trump administration manufactured another notion a few months ago that white South Africans are being "genocided."
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MagnetsCarlsbrain Apr 10, 2026 +25
I’m not familiar with the history of South Africa, but I had heard claims of oppression/violence against white people there years ago. I don’t think it’s a new theory, to say nothing about its credibility though.
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MurshaqBack Apr 10, 2026 +71
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/politics/fact-check-white-farmers-south-africa-trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/a-hillside-of-white-crosses-fuels-a-misleading-story-about-south-africas-farm-killings Long story short, yes the "theory" about violence against white farmers in South Africa has been around for a while, but it was usually spread by white nationalists and then was boosted by Trump saying it to the president of South Africa and insisting it was true even after the President of South Africa debunked his points to his face.
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AKAFallow Apr 10, 2026 +20
It was mostly "white farmers", but turns out barely any farmers die year per year, and most murders in the country were black to black due to the country going to some actual bad times unrelated to any kind of genocide. To give you a number, the supposed farmer deaths were 0.001% of the yearly murders in the country, with even less of those farmers being white.
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BrassedoffDan Apr 10, 2026 +73
I believe this was a yard they were spinning 6 months or so ago about how white south Africans were being persecuted for, I can't remember if it was being white, Christian or both. Absolute nonsense of course, but anything to keep the papers distracted.
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Mddcat04 Apr 10, 2026 +29
South Africa is 85% Christian, so any suggestion of persecution due to Christian faith would be pretty absurd.
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msiri Apr 10, 2026 +16
lol- I had a professor in South Africa who said the traffic from the football or rugby matches or something was messing up her commute to church and therefore it was christian discrimination. I have to imagine it was tongue and check and something got lost in cultural translation. I'm an American and she was a white lady originally from Germany.
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Altruistic-Carry-684 Apr 10, 2026 +15
Christians won’t miss an opportunity to tell everyone they’re being persecuted. Don’t dismiss it so easily
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Mddcat04 Apr 10, 2026 +10
Oh, for sure. Christians in the US also love to *claim* to be persecuted. There’s just no basis for it.
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Darrow_au_Lykos Apr 10, 2026 +42
South African Government started seizing land without compensation a few years ago IIRC. I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 80% of farm land was owned by White South Africans who made up like 10% of the population.
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FrOdOMojO94 Apr 10, 2026 +89
Land seizure without compensation was only signed into law last year and there hasn't been any major cases yet. Fully expecting the first attempts to be raised in the courts.
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MoefsieKat Apr 10, 2026 +30
No, there has not been any land siezed without compensation. The supposed incidents were even investigated and found to only exist as media stories sourced from rumours, and the same blogs that claimed they happened dont even have sources.
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lotgd-archivist Apr 10, 2026 +14
Also, importantly, the new law is not a blanket allowance to seize land. > The new law allows for expropriation without compensation only in circumstances where it is "just and equitable and in the public interest" to do so. [...] "Expropriation may not be exercised unless the expropriating authority has without success attempted to reach an agreement with the owner," https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg9w4n6gp5o Also given the history of land "distribution" in the country, I can understand why the government wants a tool to take some of that land back if there are legitimate public interest purposes they can argue in court.
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trydola Apr 10, 2026 +42
unironically these south africans are the actual economic migrants that they accuse every other refugee of being
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slanewolf Apr 10, 2026 +14
The best part is that these people end up have worse lifes in America
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friendofelephants Apr 10, 2026 +4
I did see an article about exactly that. They were pretty unhappy.
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randomtask Apr 10, 2026 +1356
Openly racist immigration policies from openly racist administration
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Cantmentionthename Apr 10, 2026 +41
Yeah seems like the news doesn’t know how to write stuff that gets clicks AND is news
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ripyourlungsdave Apr 10, 2026 +60
Thank God they fixed this headline. I saw this posted yesterday and it said t "US has let in 4,499 refugees since October, all three were South African" and everyone in the comments was just talking about it as if that wasn't an incredibly confusing typo. So I thought I was going crazy.
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tak3_it_ez Apr 10, 2026 +10
Thank you for this. I read the corrected headline wrong and wondered what was wrong with me because I didn't get it and no one else was commenting on it.
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DrMikeH49 Apr 10, 2026 +130
Trump said that letting them in was the White thing to do.
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geekraver Apr 10, 2026 +91
Correction: “people let in via refugee program”, not actual refugees
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padbodh Apr 10, 2026 +243
And these white south africans... do they have a history of violence? military/paramilitary service?
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UnpricedToaster Apr 10, 2026 +103
More ICE recruits.
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SophisticatedStoner Apr 10, 2026 +24
Operation Rhodesian Paperclip
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DemiBlonde Apr 10, 2026 +28
I love heartwarming stories.
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Latter-Progress-9317 Apr 10, 2026 +7
With the economy going how it is the whole country will look like District 9 within a year, so I guess this tracks.
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Interesting-Potato-6 Apr 10, 2026 +10
I work with refugees and I’ve had to explain this upside down world to so many people, it’s so exhausting.
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Educational_Bend_941 Apr 10, 2026 +213
Russians, Israelis, South Africans. This dude loves all the worst kinds of our people
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NazgulSandwich Apr 10, 2026 +123
Fun fact, Israel was the very last developed country to stand by the Apartheid regime in South Africa. They only cut ties strictly due to extremely strong american pressure. >’By 1987, Israel found itself the only developed nation in the world that still maintained strong relations with South Africa. …. According to the New York Times, the Israeli Cabinet "made no attempt to hide the fact" that its decision [to curtail ties] was being made in response to political pressure from the United States.[130][129] South African Foreign Minister Pik Botha downplayed it as "clearly a direct result of pressure by the United States". ‘ Source: [wiki article on the matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations)
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Beneneb Apr 10, 2026 +71
Israel and Apartheid South Africa literally worked together to develop nuclear weapons.
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RobutNotRobot Apr 10, 2026 +5
Joint tested it in the most isolated spot on Earth in the Indian Ocean.
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xXTheGrapenatorXx Apr 10, 2026 +19
When people said "never again" after the Holocaust most meant it, many American Jews and other members of the diaspora community have been excellent intersectional allies ever since (and still are today, just look at JVP, those guys are great). But for certain people from the beginning that was interpreted to mean "never again **to our people**", and why would someone who feels that way care if South Africa was making second class citizens of a different group of gentiles? Jewish South Africans counted as White under Apartheid. Interestingly there were prominent anti-Apartheid movements among *Jewish South Africans* though and a lot of them expressed disappointment in Israeli complicity, so I can think of at least one other South African minority that maybe the US should try and attract first.
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Acceptable-Peace-69 Apr 10, 2026 +3
They never actually stopped their support. It just became clandestine.
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bertonomus Apr 10, 2026 +8
Jesus Christ, South Africans are now the worst of people?
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bullza123 Apr 10, 2026 +37
who are the good people?
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wildekat Apr 10, 2026 +24
I know SA has a bad history, and probably a lot of these "refugees" are racist chancers, but it's a bit unfair to lump the whole country's demographic in with countries that are actively committing war crimes.  SA is not perfect, but they are not the bad guys anymore (some select individuals, not included). It is a multicultural country trying to manage with the consequences of its past. The USA offered to welcome these "refugees" , and some came. Probably they are quite racist, but they are, first and foremost, economic migrants. Make no mistake.  Of course, desperate people took the USA up on the offer. Of course, they are not the best and the brightest. 
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IronDoughnut Apr 10, 2026 +15
Also, of the about 4.5 million white South Africans, only like 67k expressed interest and even less applied for the refugee status. And frankly, good riddance, America can keep them. It would be like South Africa taking some American refugees and only getting 4500 AWB diehards
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dowevenexist Apr 10, 2026 +4
South africans are the worst kind of people for what reason? really curious to hear your response ..and says the one whose countrymen elected a pedo thats threating ww3 on the daily (twice).
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Dr_Quest1 Apr 10, 2026 +14
Adding to the US white nationalist following... great
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ikickbabiesballs Apr 10, 2026 +52
Elon was like “Don I know where to get more racist white people”
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No_Newspaper8 Apr 10, 2026 +32
And then the afrikaners went back cause the US so too ghetto/expensive and the cost of living is too high
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Most-Bench6465 Apr 10, 2026 +24
And they expect you to work instead of letting your indentured servants do the work.
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Jim_Nills_Mustache Apr 10, 2026 +10
My wife’s father’s half of the family all lives there and I visit every couple years, legitimately none of them know how to do their own laundry because everyone has a maid who does a lot of the cleaning and often times cooking, child care ect just about all the work around the house is taken care of. When they come here we have to teach them how to do laundry, and often times my wife ends up having to do it for them.
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DiamondHandsToUranus Apr 10, 2026 +18
Not all white South African immigrants to the U.S. are racist or bigots. None of the families from S.A. i have met in person have been, or if they were, they were smart enough to keep it to themselves. That being said, both Elon Musk and Peter Theil are immigrants from South Africa. Both are racist bigots. Both helped install this administration. If you don't see the connection here, I have a bridge to sell you.
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WashingtonDCMonument Apr 10, 2026 +11
Wow I’m actually surprised at that statistic
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Baltim-Os Apr 10, 2026 +14
"Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer"
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redditbdum Apr 10, 2026 +19
Blatantly racist administration does blatantly racist things.
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