The other three were from Afghanistan for anyone interested.
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Yvaelle2 days ago
+2033
Were they the three richest people in Afghanistan?
2033
generally_unsuitable2 days ago
+2574
No, but they were the three whitest.
2574
benmichaelx2 days ago
+605
Why aren’t the three richest people in Afghanistan also the three whitest? Is it because of DEI?
605
thePedrix2 days ago
+183
Utter woke nonsense
183
Chicken_wingspan2 days ago
+28
r/soccer is leaking
28
mrgonzalez2 days ago
+23
Has no one shown them how white Iranians are?
23
Throwaway748299472 days ago
+22
Many if not most people in Afghanistan are relatively white, at least compared to most other places the US has invaded.
22
SaintBobby_Barbarian2 days ago
+4
Dude, some folks over there can look super euro/white. Remnants of Indo-European migrations that moved into central and then south asia. The pamiri people are such a group of people (speak an east iranic set of languages) high up in the mountains of pakistan, so little admixture from outside groups
4
Agile_Perception_6042 days ago
+7
I think you’d be surprised at just how many Afghans could pass for a suburb dwelling wasp after a shave and change of clothes.
7
Groomsi2 days ago
+10
Maybe they were the ones negotiating so Talibans took control?
10
redterrqr2 days ago
+82
Thanks, I was interested. Anything special about these three?
82
Whiterabbit--2 days ago
+60
I'm guessing its delayed paperwork, or something specific about their military service.
60
DunderMifflinNashua2 days ago
+76
Maybe the last of the interpreters?
76
spooooork2 days ago
+82
These guys?
>[ICE released an Afghan interpreter after three months in detention. Now officers have arrested his teenage son](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-arrest-connecticut-high-school-student-b2955516.html)
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Climatize2 days ago
+10
ew, sprinkle some crack on them quickly lol /s
10
Turakamu2 days ago
+15
*motions with his hands that they have large breast*
15
Dancing_RN2 days ago
+12
Huge tracts of land.
12
SteveTheUPSguy2 days ago
+171
In addition to the refugees 15,000 South Africans were granted work visas. These are people with actual farms, assets, and employees.
I personally know a social worker who helped with one of these refugees. Had an entitled sense of what they deserved from the govt housing vouchers in California and decided to move to Texas.
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BobsOblongLongBong2 days ago
+109
>Had an entitled sense of what they deserved from the govt housing vouchers in California and decided to move to Texas.
Lol at anyone thinking they'll have better luck accessing state assistance in Texas.
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wwj2 days ago
+86
Yeah, only three people trying to escape Afghanistan makes sense. It's pretty stable and safe now. /s
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jiir_mesou2 days ago
+56
they were acused of helping the American troops, so they seek a way to leave
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Man_Darino132 days ago
+10
And that was back in November.
10
rTpure2 days ago
+9531
Let me guess, all white South Africans
9531
jetforcegemini2 days ago
+2606
Ding ding ding
2606
TheDonJonJay2 days ago
+1198
its a genocide bru trust bru being white in south afreeeka is hard bru
1198
hotviolets2 days ago
+354
That’s why Elon musk and Peter Thiel became Nazis.
354
gomezer11802 days ago
+138
Yeah they know the “struggle”
138
Imavomitlover2 days ago
+50
Elon bought the moon and millions of morons think he created it.
50
pha5matis2 days ago
+126
Boet, okes that post kak like that dont think lekka.
126
unforgiven912 days ago
+8
ask grok bru
8
BP6192 days ago
+103
I would have gone Seth Effreeka.
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Any_Target8302 days ago
+3
My buddy Johann would tell me to say "siff iffrika"
3
Real-Ad-17282 days ago
+67
You know something tells me South Africa isn’t sad to see them go lol
67
MistressAnthrope2 days ago
+41
We're calling it The Great Tsek
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Copthill2 days ago
+27
We're not sending our best.
27
AKAFallow2 days ago
+15
Its so funny because you also got the richest white man in South Africa being like "uh, there's no genocide, sir" to Trump when he ambushed his president last year lol. Like, its hilarious how off guard he got from that.
15
ThrownAwayGuineaPig2 days ago
+12
It's so kak. Just spent 2 weeks in the Eastern Cape. Kayak, snorkel, swim, good food, good friends
So kak.
12
swingadmin2 days ago
+31
"Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is still an ugly thing" - Afrikaans saying
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Toxicscrew2 days ago
+1049
And many have returned back to SA citing the US as being too expensive, not having socialized heath care and being too violent.
1049
Calm-Preparation74322 days ago
+682
wow! i looked this up and [you're right](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-white-south-africans-are-persecuted-some-are-returning-better-life-2026-03-11/). "african refugees leaving US" is not what i expected for the 2020s
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FrOdOMojO942 days ago
+131
There is a slight misrepresentation since those returning to SA emigrated to the US before the Trump 'refugee' program started.
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Calm-Preparation74322 days ago
+70
The Reuters article includes information that demonstrates an increase in interest in return, which I'll include below. [This article](https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/first-afrikaner-refugee-returns-to-south-africa-resettlement-programme/) describes the first known refugee to return home (after her family didn't move with her) and includes reasoning on why refugees might face barriers to travel from USCIS, impeding their ability to repatriate.
"Two recruitment agencies that help expats relocate said the number of inquiries had jumped, and Reuters spoke to 10 South Africans who had either returned or were planning to, seven of them from across Europe and three from the United States."
"Anton van Heerden, CEO of employment agency DNA Employer of Record, said inquiries from white South Africans seeking to return had jumped 70% in the past six months. Angel Jones, CEO of Johannesburg-based recruitment firm HomecomingEx, reported a roughly 30% rise in inquiries since 2024."
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FrOdOMojO942 days ago
+15
Thanks very much for the article. I hadn't heard of a case of a 'refugee' choosing to return to SA.
15
EffektieweEffie2 days ago
+17
Thats a massive misrepresentation.
17
YomiKuzuki2 days ago
+46
This is both so f****** funny and so f****** sad.
46
Niceromancer2 days ago
+10
They expected to be propped up by musk and trump. Given cushy jobs and a fast track to wealth and prosperity.
Once the photo ops were done they were abandoned.
10
paxrom22 days ago
+330
They were expecting free housing and a stipend. LOL
330
metaldrummerx2 days ago
+275
Wait you mean that the US government isn’t giving immigrants free money, free healthcare, allowing them to steal jobs, and aren’t a burden to people living in bumfuck nowhere??? I am SHOCKED!
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TurbulentBat83282 days ago
+24
A lot of them were from bumfuck nowhere in South Africa also.
24
Osirus11562 days ago
+59
They probably listened to conservative propaganda about migrants.
59
relevantelephant002 days ago
+6
They also probably think it'll be good for them because MAGA is trying to bring back apartheid.
6
EffektieweEffie2 days ago
+14
None of those things are available to them in South Africa either so idk.
14
Eisernes2 days ago
+28
Certain US “news” outlets have been lying for years that immigrants are being given everything they want for free. They are the onion, then the leopards ate their face.
28
A_wild_so-and-so2 days ago
+108
I remember an article not too long ago about some SA refugees who were being housed in roach infested motels who had to walk everywhere in a town with no public transit. It definitely wasn't the welcome they were expecting, but that's usually what happens to the pawns that Trump plays with.
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TheFrostynaut2 days ago
+58
They got the true American experience of bad public infrastructure and inadequate housing.
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MamaBearForestWitch2 days ago
+10
But without the immigrant experience of being judged for the color of your skin...
10
Whiterabbit--2 days ago
+20
if you are refugee and your life back home was in imminent danger, living in roach infested hotels isn't so bad.
20
Norm_Standart2 days ago
+29
Yeah, if they were actually refugees.
29
Pale-Acanthaceae-7362 days ago
+14
The only imminent danger I see is if these Afrikaners were acting like bigoted, racist plantation owners ignoring that Apartheid there ended more than 30 years ago. It's my guess they were the equivalent of MAGA here in the US.
14
Mysterious_Donut_7022 days ago
+44
America:
We mostly lack the sprawling slums, and "poorest of the poor literally starving" absolute poverty... but still have plenty of inequality, crime and social issues that would make a South African feel imperfectly at home.
For a rich Afrikaaner used to gated communities, backyard swimming pools, poor people to exploit as c**** housekeepers, and a much lower cost of living... our middle class might even be a downgrade.
We'd be a huge upgrade for someone stuck living in South Africa's informal settlements though.
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oreo-cat-2 days ago
+27
Not ZA but I've worked with people from other countries that at 40 had literally never cooked. Like didn't know what to do with pans levels of 'can't cook'. They'd always had a cook, same with laundry and cleaning.
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that_f_dude2 days ago
+10
That's pretty much it, even "rich" SAers are like eff this, I got a plot of land, a house cleaner, a gardener and a nanny back home. They can't find a foot hold here to support that same lifestyle
10
peon22 days ago
+27
That's laughable. Modern day South Africa is the closest thing we currently have to France just pre-revolution with a 32% unemployment rate and the highest Gini coefficient in the world.
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Copthill2 days ago
+12
8% for the whites.
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Sea_Public_66912 days ago
+22
Yeah, but not for white people.
22
Zombie_Cool2 days ago
+23
Is South Africa allowed to declare "LOL no takebacks"?
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Bytewave2 days ago
+15
No, that's not allowed, to protect legitimate refugees. Refugees are always supposed to be able to return when the conditions are safe, they are still citizens of their home countries. Many don't want to go back but that's another story.
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Parking-Interview3512 days ago
+25
South Africa is way more violent than the US. Cost of living differences makes sense though.
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OldAccountIsGlitched2 days ago
+18
That really depends on where you are in the country. If you stick to wealthier areas you're much less likely to get exposed to serious violence. Cape Town has some of the world's worst gang violence but it's basically limited to about five suburbs.
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Fun-Twist-37052 days ago
+9
> That really depends on where you are in the country
Well.. there is not a lot of violent crimes in much of the US as well so how is that an argument? Even the safer areas in South Africa are quite dangerous by American standards.
9
LeticiaPadillaSolis_2 days ago
+227
I met one in Iowa while visiting two weeks ago who was driving for Lyft. He said he was returning to SA in the summer.
Oh my goodness he was rude, mean, said offensive things the entire ride. It was more the older bitter lonely man who was clearly rejected by the local women. He went on a full rant the entire ride complaining about going to the grocery store because the local women were like hogs. He literally made squealing noises. Guarantee every woman he’s probably tried to hit on in Cedar Rapids has rightfully told him to f*** right off.
Mind you I’m Hispanic so I was just waiting to see what he’d say about me. It was like he kept trying to just poke and poke to see if I’d say something back. Then as he was dropping me off at the hotel he told me to request him again for a ride. LOL
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suicide_nooch2 days ago
+49
I have a really good friend (Afrikaner) who immigrated here 35 years ago. Her family worked hard, developed businesses from the ground up, paid taxes and it still took them 12 years to get citizenship. They were also highly intelligent and kind, caring people. I was asking her about these immigrants and she basically told me it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised.
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aqtseacow2 days ago
+8
>it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised.
Not even remotely, most of the people coming from SA aren't in a comparable economic cohort to your typical trailer park folks.
These people are for the most part used to gated, private communities. Its why there's easy pickings for the media to point out the ones that are returning.
8
_Burning_Star_IV_2 days ago
+122
I've met more than a few foreigners who have this idea before they come here that most American women (especially in the coastal cities) are 10/10 pornstars who will f*** anything that moves and then get really disappointed and angry when that turns out to be incorrect when they get here. Movies are to blame? The p*** they watch? Idk.
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Tall_poppee2 days ago
+89
To be fair, some US men think women should look like p*** stars and only be interested in f****** them too. They are usually found in far right religious groups, but they're here too.
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princesspuffer2 days ago
+17
Exactly! I grew up Mormon, and many boys were told on their mission "the more baptisms you get, the hotter your wife will be."
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ValuableOven7342 days ago
+5
I tell them that is God's plan for the non religious. The plan for him is to watch.
5
GreatMovesKeepItUp692 days ago
+49
The movies don't communicate how truly awful the obesity epidemic in America is compared to pretty much anywhere in Asia or Europe. Ive worked with a lot of foreign visitors before and I've heard it a lot usually in hushed tones.
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Expensive_Law_31802 days ago
+12
This is a fact. My sister and I are the only two members of our family who have a BMI in the normal range, and we got bullied so damn much for it, both of us cut the family off 15 years ago.
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Lazydusto2 days ago
+19
Your family bullied you for *not* being overweight? What the hell?
19
DizzyAsparagus96222 days ago
+16
I'm not an american but I live in a border town in Canada (Niagara), not even close to a coastal US city and I get way and I mean way way more matches and meetings and hookups with US women (through dating apps) compared to Canadians. It's not even a comparison. Say what you will about US women but they are not scared to meet with a non-white man. Wherever I visit US inland, it's the same thing, get more matches and meetings. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in a major US city like NYC or LA. Must be awesome.
Edit: u/carlysimonsays sorry the post is locked so can't reply. Obviously things are not as good for cross border travel but I cross the border 2 times a month approx. Sometimes once or twice within a week and it has been ok so far. Less crazy in this corner of the USA. (Hopefully I haven't jinxed it)
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Copthill2 days ago
+6
Worked for that guy in Love Actually.
6
CarlySimonSays2 days ago
+3
I actually feel a bit bad for Kris Marshall that that dumb character is what most Americans know him for. He's brilliant in the early seasons of "My Family" and the several detective shows he's been in.
3
grchelp20182 days ago
+8
Movies for sure. Hollywood gives a totally warped view of how things are.
8
rocketbunny772 days ago
+20
The whole poking to see if you're as racist as them is the typical south African racist way. Try living there. Good god
20
Alive_Internet2 days ago
+128
Last year on X, Elon Musk was really pushing for this because of how they were allegedly treated (with some using the word “genocided”) in South Africa.
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SpleenBender2 days ago
+114
I don't know how mister *nazi salute* is trying to tell anybody *anything* about morality.
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robodrew2 days ago
+45
Elon Musk is a f****** Nazi
45
tomdarch2 days ago
+10
Trump played a nonsense white propaganda video in the White House claiming this false genocide thing. The head of state of South Africa brought white propaganda golfers to his meeting with Trump so that Trump would actually listen to them explain reality.
10
BasvanS2 days ago
+7
It was genocide! They were not allowed to be Nazis, hating people of color, and f****** their cousins. If you can’t even do that, what is freedom even worth?
7
kitsunewarlock2 days ago
+10
Our administration is literally just basing policies off old 4chan memes.
10
Beneneb2 days ago
+34
To me, I don't think there is any more clear example of the racism of the current administration. I guess it's a sign of the times that this has barely been reported on.
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AmbassadorCrazy79052 days ago
+16
It's literally our trailer park trash, our farmer are way too rich and live so well they would never ever leave SA, also they have pride. Our serious farmers here have private plane money, they not giving that up to live in some backwater
16
GearBrain2 days ago
+23
Literally building a fifth column of white supremacists.
23
PlutoJones422 days ago
+3
Elon asked daddy Trump to bring over all his poo persecuted Nazi friends because their government didn’t like them being Nazis anymore
3
Walter_West2 days ago
+255
As a South African, it feels so weird to have been a main character for a bit during Trumps presidency but that feels like it happened a decade ago
255
Wadarkhu2 days ago
+56
How do you guys feel about all these people leaving for America? Is it a "good riddance" thing?
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Zefrem232 days ago
+179
Yes. They're people who think the grass will be greener on the other side of the hill, because they convince themselves they have a hard life here in South Africa. Meanwhile they live lives of extreme privilege, with awesome weather, largely affordable high quality nutritious food, live in maids for all but the lowest of the lower middle class, and virtually zero police presence in most places. They convince themselves that life is somehow terrible here because previously disadvantaged people are now allowed to be on the same social footing as them. As I've said for years, when you're used to being told you're better than everyone else, equality looks like oppression.
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Wadarkhu2 days ago
+30
Welp, when they leave - more for you, and more for the previous disadvantaged people too. Also, live-in maids is wild, I can't imagine something like that being so common lol.
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do_pm_me_your_butt2 days ago
+22
There are serious issues in our country, I do not fault anyone for leaving to hope for a better life for their family.
Im choosing to stay, this is my country, I will try improve it, and if needs be, fight for it.
22
overfiend19762 days ago
+2777
MAGA loves the idea of having apartheid at home.
2777
hoppertn2 days ago
+561
I feel like Americans abroad are going to be treated like White South Africans abroad from 1970-1994.
561
o_MrBombastic_o2 days ago
+666
We deserve it, unfortunately it's mostly liberals who will get the brunt of it MAGA generally don't leave their shithole states
666
not_so_chi_couple2 days ago
+240
Liberal Americans have known for years that when you are travelling internationally, you are Canadian
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doyouhavehiminblonde2 days ago
+99
I actually am Canadian and trust me we get lumped together when I tell people I’m Canadian not American.
99
VisitingPeanut482 days ago
+45
I must admit that my opinion of Canada has dipped a bit over the years. I had an online friend from Canada and the impression I got from him was that it's very much America-lite. He lived in Alberta though, so make of that what you will
45
TesseractThief2 days ago
+89
All you needed to say was that he lives in Alberta so likely maple MAGA. 99% of us Canadians hate them with a passion
Edit: I should clarify - if the online friend was acting like an ‘American lite’ then he’s likely a maple MAGA (which 99% of Canadians hate). By no means are all Albertans maple MAGAs - only a small but obnoxiously loud amount are.
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deschamps932 days ago
+21
There a lot of good albertans out here who do not agree with the rhetoric. Look even at the miniscule traction of the petition vs our total populace. But yeah. The shitty ones are shit
21
Nu-Hir2 days ago
+6
Alberta is just Texas of the north.
6
spare_me_your_bs2 days ago
+6
99% of Canadians hate an entire province? Is this true? Granted, the only things I know about Alberta is oil and 'berta beef (Letterkenny).
6
TesseractThief2 days ago
+13
99% of Canadians hate the minuscule amount of maple MAGAs, who are mostly in Alberta but are not by any means a majority of the province. Should’ve clarified.
13
doyouhavehiminblonde2 days ago
+6
Yeah I live in Toronto which is pretty different but our Premier sucks so I can’t say Ontario is super progressive either.
6
ArkitekZero2 days ago
+4
Alberta is like the Canadian analog for Texas.
4
hotviolets2 days ago
+9
I was in a Canadian housing sub because I was thinking about moving to Canada, I accidentally joined the more right wing one. They are definitely America-lite in a lot of ways. There was so much racism and rhetoric that got us where we are today in the US.
9
Actual_System89962 days ago
+9
Always thought that was lame. Kids were doing it when I was backpacking around Europe around 2010. Own where you’re from, the good and bad. It’s not that hard to agree with people about the shitty aspects about America. This collective escapism and ignoring of our problems by the people who recognize them is part of the problem.
9
doyouhavehiminblonde2 days ago
+6
I think it’s lame too. Anyone with a brain knows not all Americans are ignorant or horrible. I’ve met a lot of great people from the US. Just don’t call me American lol
6
squuidlees2 days ago
+21
I am a terrible liar and it’s written all over my face when I do. I can’t use that excuse abroad. So I just say California and hope my actions of respecting the place I’m visiting will speak louder than the world’s disdain of where I’m from.
21
Darth_Nox5012 days ago
+28
Same.
"Where you from?"
"New York"
Never had a problem lol.
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zack770702 days ago
+28
In the real world:
"Where you from?"
"Texas"
"Do you ride horses to school."
Nobody actually gives a f*** if you're American if you don't come off as an a****** and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways. I have met Russians against Putin, I don't automatically associate a nations crimes with random people on the street.
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MottoScotto2 days ago
+7
This. When I've traveled internationally, the most "c***" I've gotten is jokes about various crazy things (mostly Trump and school shootings) happening in America. No one has ever been rude. Just be a nice person and people will treat you nicely.
7
NCC755672 days ago
+4
> Nobody actually gives a f*** if you're American if you don't come off as an a****** and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways.
Yep, granted, I haven't been abroad since the second shit show began, but as an Oklahoman that's been my experience.
Spent 2 weeks in Paris a few years ago. None of them cared that I was American. None of the Americans (mostly from Boston and other NE cities) on my all-day bus tour to Normandy cared that I was from Oklahoma. My family was just nice, normal people interacting with other nice, normal people.
In all my time traveling to Europe, California, and the east coast, I've only run into one loser from Virginia that thought his meth jokes were super funny.
4
mummy__napkin2 days ago
+38
Speak for yourselves. I'm a lib and have no shame saying I'm American when I'm abroad and people ask. I'm not gonna apologize or feel shame for having no choice in where I was born. And to be totally honest, lying about being Canadian is a b**** move that I'm sure real Canadians don't appreciate. Just enjoy your vacation and stop worrying about the opinions of people you're never going to see again and who likely don't actually care where you're from.
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uacoop2 days ago
+18
I have spent a lot of time on language exchange apps, so I've had the opportunity to speak to a lot of people from a lot of different countries.
I think many Americans have an outsized expectation about how much people from other countries think or care about the US or what's going on with them politically, especially outside of the anlgosphere. In my experience, most people are just living their own lives, doing their own thing, maybe they'll hear something about it on the news every once in a while, but unless it impacts them directly, they probably couldn't care less.
Which I think makes a lot of sense, honestly. I mean...many people *inside* the US don't even engage with what's going on here (big problem btw), so why do we expect people from other countries to.
18
reddituser4032 days ago
+19
And you're still not fooling anyone
19
LandonDev2 days ago
+45
Most people seem to understand the difference, the world in general has a lot of bigotry but as long as you are polite and don't disrespect their culture you'll have nothing but great interactions with others.
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RobertMcCheese2 days ago
+34
Back in the late 80s I was in a pub in Amsterdam with my brother.
We were having a good time and just acting like normal people out at a bar.
When they were about to close the bartender called us over and handed us each a Canadian flag pins.
So I put it on my hat since it was a gift and why would you be a d*** about a weird gift from someone in a bar?
It wasn't until months later that I realized what that was all about.
Edit: My brother reminded me that we were travelling all over Europe while the World Cup was in Italy and that is why we didn't go to Italy.
So we'd sight see all day and then find a bar in the evening to watch the games.
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MilesAlchei2 days ago
+11
Forgive me, I'm still not sure I get it, were they giving you a "oh youre ok" pass or was it ridicule?
11
matt-er-of-fact2 days ago
+14
You’re ok. Now wear this so you aren’t treated like the assholes your country is known for.
14
forgetit12432 days ago
+4
What was it all about?
4
SteveMemeChamp2 days ago
+7
Canadians are left leaning and nice compared to Americans i think
7
forgetit12432 days ago
+5
So like “you seem nice, wear these and people will just assume you’re nice”
?
Edit: truly I’m not like trying to be dumb here or anything maybe it’s cuz I just woke up, I’m just genuinely confused by this
5
imnohankhill2 days ago
+21
If anything people are pleasantly surprised when they meet Americans who arnt assholes.
21
GastricallyStretched2 days ago
+18
I know that about half of Americans (probably more than half) are totally normal people that didn't want any of this shit. I'm not *surprised* when I meet nice Americans, but more relieved that the d20 landed correctly and didn't give me an American with a Maga debuff.
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Captain_Futile2 days ago
+3
The story was from late 80’s. Many American tourists were seen as insufferable assholes long before Trump.
3
Veggies-are-okay2 days ago
+7
Yeah in my travels abroad I get more “I’m so sorry” rather than “f*** yous.” The latter are just little people who have little worldviews and would probably be trumpers if they were born in the US 🤷♂️
Probably does help that I explicitly tell people I’m from California when asked.
7
jaytix12 days ago
+6
In my experience (I'm from the Caribbean) Americans are usually well-behaved, so they might avoid getting lumped together with those dipshits lol.
6
J58922 days ago
+13
I was in Oslo a few weeks after the whole Nobel prize tantrum. We were treated great the whole time we were there, but when we were leaving a clothing shop once, the cashier said, "Hey can you get rid of Trump for us when you get back?"
We were like "Dude, sorry, we're trying."
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jankenpoo2 days ago
+19
Southern Democrats were so hysterical at LBJ for passing the Civil Rights Act ending segregation that they turned Republican after that and never went back. (Republicans also saw the opportunity and leaned hard into appealing to the racists.)
That is the foundation for the modern GOP and MAGA so you are 100% correct
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ScrrrewFace2 days ago
+21
The “Great Again” aspect of MAGA…returning to apartheid, known here in the US during pre Civil Rights era, as Jim Crow.
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GourdonHamsey2 days ago
+3
maga is going full scorch earth bc the Pope asked for peace.
3
DinoDonkeyDoodle2 days ago
+9
Wait until they realize they are not on the side of apartheid they want.
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livy-aurelia2 days ago
+5
how so? they’re mostly white
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DinoDonkeyDoodle2 days ago
+3
Ju$t a hunch i$ all.
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Outrageous_Space80832 days ago
+1215
The word “Refugee” is doing some serious heavy lifting there
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Efficient_Carrot_6692 days ago
+224
What are they seeking refuge from? Am I just really out of the loop?
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TheTim2 days ago
+94
This American Life did an episode about it that covers the topic pretty well. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/872/winners
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porygonj2 days ago
+300
Trump administration manufactured another notion a few months ago that white South Africans are being "genocided."
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MagnetsCarlsbrain2 days ago
+25
I’m not familiar with the history of South Africa, but I had heard claims of oppression/violence against white people there years ago. I don’t think it’s a new theory, to say nothing about its credibility though.
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MurshaqBack2 days ago
+71
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/politics/fact-check-white-farmers-south-africa-trump
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/a-hillside-of-white-crosses-fuels-a-misleading-story-about-south-africas-farm-killings
Long story short, yes the "theory" about violence against white farmers in South Africa has been around for a while, but it was usually spread by white nationalists and then was boosted by Trump saying it to the president of South Africa and insisting it was true even after the President of South Africa debunked his points to his face.
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AKAFallow2 days ago
+20
It was mostly "white farmers", but turns out barely any farmers die year per year, and most murders in the country were black to black due to the country going to some actual bad times unrelated to any kind of genocide. To give you a number, the supposed farmer deaths were 0.001% of the yearly murders in the country, with even less of those farmers being white.
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BrassedoffDan2 days ago
+73
I believe this was a yard they were spinning 6 months or so ago about how white south Africans were being persecuted for, I can't remember if it was being white, Christian or both. Absolute nonsense of course, but anything to keep the papers distracted.
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Mddcat042 days ago
+29
South Africa is 85% Christian, so any suggestion of persecution due to Christian faith would be pretty absurd.
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msiri2 days ago
+16
lol- I had a professor in South Africa who said the traffic from the football or rugby matches or something was messing up her commute to church and therefore it was christian discrimination. I have to imagine it was tongue and check and something got lost in cultural translation. I'm an American and she was a white lady originally from Germany.
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Altruistic-Carry-6842 days ago
+15
Christians won’t miss an opportunity to tell everyone they’re being persecuted. Don’t dismiss it so easily
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Mddcat042 days ago
+10
Oh, for sure. Christians in the US also love to *claim* to be persecuted. There’s just no basis for it.
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Darrow_au_Lykos2 days ago
+42
South African Government started seizing land without compensation a few years ago IIRC. I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 80% of farm land was owned by White South Africans who made up like 10% of the population.
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FrOdOMojO942 days ago
+89
Land seizure without compensation was only signed into law last year and there hasn't been any major cases yet. Fully expecting the first attempts to be raised in the courts.
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MoefsieKat2 days ago
+30
No, there has not been any land siezed without compensation. The supposed incidents were even investigated and found to only exist as media stories sourced from rumours, and the same blogs that claimed they happened dont even have sources.
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lotgd-archivist2 days ago
+14
Also, importantly, the new law is not a blanket allowance to seize land.
> The new law allows for expropriation without compensation only in circumstances where it is "just and equitable and in the public interest" to do so. [...] "Expropriation may not be exercised unless the expropriating authority has without success attempted to reach an agreement with the owner,"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg9w4n6gp5o
Also given the history of land "distribution" in the country, I can understand why the government wants a tool to take some of that land back if there are legitimate public interest purposes they can argue in court.
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trydola2 days ago
+42
unironically these south africans are the actual economic migrants that they accuse every other refugee of being
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slanewolf2 days ago
+14
The best part is that these people end up have worse lifes in America
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friendofelephants2 days ago
+4
I did see an article about exactly that. They were pretty unhappy.
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randomtask2 days ago
+1356
Openly racist immigration policies from openly racist administration
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Cantmentionthename2 days ago
+41
Yeah seems like the news doesn’t know how to write stuff that gets clicks AND is news
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ripyourlungsdave2 days ago
+60
Thank God they fixed this headline. I saw this posted yesterday and it said t "US has let in 4,499 refugees since October, all three were South African" and everyone in the comments was just talking about it as if that wasn't an incredibly confusing typo. So I thought I was going crazy.
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tak3_it_ez2 days ago
+10
Thank you for this. I read the corrected headline wrong and wondered what was wrong with me because I didn't get it and no one else was commenting on it.
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DrMikeH492 days ago
+130
Trump said that letting them in was the White thing to do.
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geekraver2 days ago
+91
Correction: “people let in via refugee program”, not actual refugees
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padbodh2 days ago
+243
And these white south africans... do they have a history of violence? military/paramilitary service?
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UnpricedToaster2 days ago
+103
More ICE recruits.
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SophisticatedStoner2 days ago
+24
Operation Rhodesian Paperclip
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+48
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DemiBlonde2 days ago
+28
I love heartwarming stories.
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Latter-Progress-93172 days ago
+7
With the economy going how it is the whole country will look like District 9 within a year, so I guess this tracks.
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Interesting-Potato-62 days ago
+10
I work with refugees and I’ve had to explain this upside down world to so many people, it’s so exhausting.
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Educational_Bend_9412 days ago
+213
Russians, Israelis, South Africans. This dude loves all the worst kinds of our people
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NazgulSandwich2 days ago
+123
Fun fact, Israel was the very last developed country to stand by the Apartheid regime in South Africa. They only cut ties strictly due to extremely strong american pressure.
>’By 1987, Israel found itself the only developed nation in the world that still maintained strong relations with South Africa. …. According to the New York Times, the Israeli Cabinet "made no attempt to hide the fact" that its decision [to curtail ties] was being made in response to political pressure from the United States.[130][129] South African Foreign Minister Pik Botha downplayed it as "clearly a direct result of pressure by the United States". ‘
Source: [wiki article on the matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations)
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Beneneb2 days ago
+71
Israel and Apartheid South Africa literally worked together to develop nuclear weapons.
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RobutNotRobot2 days ago
+5
Joint tested it in the most isolated spot on Earth in the Indian Ocean.
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xXTheGrapenatorXx2 days ago
+19
When people said "never again" after the Holocaust most meant it, many American Jews and other members of the diaspora community have been excellent intersectional allies ever since (and still are today, just look at JVP, those guys are great).
But for certain people from the beginning that was interpreted to mean "never again **to our people**", and why would someone who feels that way care if South Africa was making second class citizens of a different group of gentiles? Jewish South Africans counted as White under Apartheid.
Interestingly there were prominent anti-Apartheid movements among *Jewish South Africans* though and a lot of them expressed disappointment in Israeli complicity, so I can think of at least one other South African minority that maybe the US should try and attract first.
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Acceptable-Peace-692 days ago
+3
They never actually stopped their support. It just became clandestine.
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bertonomus2 days ago
+8
Jesus Christ, South Africans are now the worst of people?
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bullza1232 days ago
+37
who are the good people?
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wildekat2 days ago
+24
I know SA has a bad history, and probably a lot of these "refugees" are racist chancers, but it's a bit unfair to lump the whole country's demographic in with countries that are actively committing war crimes.
SA is not perfect, but they are not the bad guys anymore (some select individuals, not included). It is a multicultural country trying to manage with the consequences of its past.
The USA offered to welcome these "refugees" , and some came. Probably they are quite racist, but they are, first and foremost, economic migrants. Make no mistake.
Of course, desperate people took the USA up on the offer. Of course, they are not the best and the brightest.
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IronDoughnut2 days ago
+15
Also, of the about 4.5 million white South Africans, only like 67k expressed interest and even less applied for the refugee status.
And frankly, good riddance, America can keep them.
It would be like South Africa taking some American refugees and only getting 4500 AWB diehards
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dowevenexist2 days ago
+4
South africans are the worst kind of people for what reason? really curious to hear your response ..and says the one whose countrymen elected a pedo thats threating ww3 on the daily (twice).
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Dr_Quest12 days ago
+14
Adding to the US white nationalist following... great
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ikickbabiesballs2 days ago
+52
Elon was like “Don I know where to get more racist white people”
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No_Newspaper82 days ago
+32
And then the afrikaners went back cause the US so too ghetto/expensive and the cost of living is too high
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Most-Bench64652 days ago
+24
And they expect you to work instead of letting your indentured servants do the work.
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Jim_Nills_Mustache2 days ago
+10
My wife’s father’s half of the family all lives there and I visit every couple years, legitimately none of them know how to do their own laundry because everyone has a maid who does a lot of the cleaning and often times cooking, child care ect just about all the work around the house is taken care of.
When they come here we have to teach them how to do laundry, and often times my wife ends up having to do it for them.
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DiamondHandsToUranus2 days ago
+18
Not all white South African immigrants to the U.S. are racist or bigots. None of the families from S.A. i have met in person have been, or if they were, they were smart enough to keep it to themselves.
That being said, both Elon Musk and Peter Theil are immigrants from South Africa. Both are racist bigots. Both helped install this administration. If you don't see the connection here, I have a bridge to sell you.
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WashingtonDCMonument2 days ago
+11
Wow I’m actually surprised at that statistic
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Baltim-Os2 days ago
+14
"Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer"
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redditbdum2 days ago
+19
Blatantly racist administration does blatantly racist things.
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