> Iran has operational access to 30 of its 33 missile sites along the Strait of Hormuz
90% is pretty remarkable.
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tripping_yarns13 hr ago
+598
Well, he did say they’d been decimated.
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Blueopus213 hr ago
+335
Trump’s most accurate quote to date happened because he didn’t know what the words he was saying meant…
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lo_mur13 hr ago
+130
“Decimated” has to be one of the most misused words in the English language, so many people use it as a synonym for obliterated, destroyed, etc.
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BugsyMcNug12 hr ago
+69
Happened so often they changed the definition. That pisses me off waaay more than it should but, hey, what can ya do.
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trampolinebears11 hr ago
+79
It's funny that *decimate* bothers you, but not the rest of your vocabulary.
For reference:
* *change* used to mean "trade", like *exchange*
* *definition* used to mean "bounded", like *finite*
* *pissed* used to only refer to literal urine
* *way* used to only mean "road"
* *should* used to mean "owe"
* *can* used to mean "know"
Words get used differently, causing the meaning to change. That's just how language works.
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genreprank11 hr ago
+100
Happened so often they trade the bound. That literally urines me off roooad more than it owes but, hey, what know ya to do.
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rainshifter5 hr ago
+3
Madlibs, but with former bounds.
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kvikklunsjrevolver9 hr ago
+8
I’m not from an English speaking country, but from my perspective English is all a bunch of French words. No wonder English is confusing.
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TenbluntTony9 hr ago
+8
English is a blend of Latin and Germanic languages with sprinkles of the rest of the languages as well . That’s why there’s so many different ways to articulate the same thing.
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trampolinebears9 hr ago
+6
This isn't something unique to English I'm describing; it's how all languages work.
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PhysicallyTender8 hr ago
+2
For example, the Malay word for cup is Cawan, which derived from the Chinese word for teacup, 茶碗 (Chá wǎn).
And the English word: Compound, came from the Malay word for village: Kampung.
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HoightyToighty7 hr ago
+3
> No. Just, hard no. Words never lose their meanings.
Uh, sure they do. Did you know the word 'clue' originally referred to a ball of yarn? Its meaning lingers in 'clew', a nautical term for a spot at which a line get tied.
That original meaning has been effectively lost despite my interest in trivia
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sixtus_clegane11911 hr ago
+1
Pissed is sorta like slang though how it developed
Now it means angry or drunk depending what side of the pond
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HoightyToighty7 hr ago
+3
Are you taking the piss?
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BugsyMcNug11 hr ago
-8
Never said it didn't. Having a good day?
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trampolinebears10 hr ago
+8
I’m having a reasonably good day, yes. One of the projects I’m working on is going better than expected.
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JamesTheJerk11 hr ago
-8
Wouldn't you take the word at face definition of the time it was used?
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trampolinebears10 hr ago
+7
What do you mean by “face definition”?
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IPissExcellentThrows9 hr ago
+3
TIL. I will not use the new way!
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GoldCoinDonation11 hr ago
+3
now tell us how you feel about December being the 12th month
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ZenBastid12 hr ago
+22
Agreed - if you want to decimate a dozen donuts just eat one and take a bite of another. There. Decimated.
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Capable_Kiwi251410 hr ago
+6
That's not misuse that's how words work.
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LongBeakedSnipe6 hr ago
+1
It is not misused because a few listnookors are pompously sticking to a dated version of the word that is basically never used.
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kezow12 hr ago
+6
He can only accidentally tell the truth.
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MentalDisintegrat1on10 hr ago
+7
It's quite possible he actually doesn't know what's going on. They said they had to kick him out of the war room because he was super pissed off.
Basically they are lying to him to make him seem like he's winning.
But then again trump lies like he breath so it could be a lie.
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DerVogelMann13 hr ago
+21
Well done
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National-Charity-43513 hr ago
+8
Well-done steak slathered in ketchup
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Some_Conference209113 hr ago
+8
They decimated nearly 10% of Iran's missile sites. 🥴
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GenericRedditor040512 hr ago
+3
10% of the time, we obliterate things every time!
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furimmerkaiser7 hr ago
+2
In the last 4 years I have learned that it is not difficult to bring down the "global military superpower" to their knees. Both Russia and US are struggling despite having the top military in the world.
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ObviouslyRealPerson13 hr ago
+2
Obliterated!
...unless they have shovels
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qTp_Meteor13 hr ago
-7
90% of bases are somewhat or fully operational, doesnt mean that the missiles are or that its in good shape, just that the bases can be used, pretty meaningless story imo
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Some_Conference209112 hr ago
+35
Your comment leads me to believe you either didn't read the article or you didn't understand it.
"Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile, according to the assessments. That stockpile encompasses both ballistic missiles, which can target other nations in the region, and a smaller supply of cruise missiles, which can be used against shorter-range targets on land or at sea."
"United States expended roughly 1,100 long-range stealth cruise missiles in the war — close to the total supply that remains in the American stockpile. The military also fired more than 1,000 Tomahawk missiles, roughly 10 times the number the Pentagon procures in a year. And it used more than 1,300 Patriot interceptor missiles during the war, which accounts for more than two years of production at 2025 rates."
Just those two quotes have a lot of meaningful implications for the future of US security.
The conflict has made America less able to defend against a true threat, should one arise.
It's also clear that Iran is still able to easily threaten shipping and infrastructure in the region.
To fully discuss all the reasons why the Iran war was a strategic blunder would take days.
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laptopAccount212 hr ago
+3
Well good to see the patriot production is reasonable at least.
America has infinity laser guided bombs. All the expensive stuff let's us operate without exposing our planes to much of any risk. In a serious war you would still be getting blown up everywhere all at once from stealth bombers, just that you would also be shooting some of those down.
This makes me much more wary about a conflict with China.
We have an army, navy, Air Force, space Force... China has a dedicated rocket force. They're going to block out the sun with their missiles.
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DemosthenesOrNah9 hr ago
> In a serious war you would still be getting blown up everywhere all at once from stealth bombers,
"serious war" is now semi-autonomous robot swarms on land, sea and air.
100% of neo-modern doctrine will revolve around trying to stop c****, fast drones.
We are see a shift in the entire definition of 'air superiority' with the advent of ai/IR empowered drone flocks..
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chaos0xomega13 hr ago
+19
Leaked pentagon memo says they still have access to over 70% of their missile stocks and launchers, its reasonable to conclude that a signoficant portion of those 30 missile bases are operational threats.
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wiseoldfox13 hr ago
+1
Yeah, but there has been an awful lot of leaks since the "excursion".
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SirTresmegestis5 hr ago
-2
>Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile,
Its more like 70% - and TBH losing 30% capabilities in just a few short months is not a good look. If America lost 30% capabilties the NYTimes would be screaming about how bad that is for the US. It also doesnt account for the major losses in leadership and the multiple navy vessels that were destroyed.
I think people just dont want to admit that these strikes hit Iran hard.
>People with knowledge of the assessments said they show — to varying degrees, depending on the level of damage incurred at the different sites — that the Iranians can use mobile launchers that are inside the sites to move missiles to other locations.
Them moving mobile launchers was always an option. The problem for Iran is that they are pretty much just relying on luck that they dont get spotted by UAV and destroyed enroute. They DONT have the AA capabilities to effectivly stop US strikes on their mobile launchers. Also we can talk all day about what Iran could do - but its clear what they are doing is now after weeks their strikes have dried up and have made zero attempt to stop the blockade or even strike at any of the elements that are currently putting them in check. There hasnt been a unified message from their leadership and their navy still cant contest at sea
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mgzkk121010 hr ago
+97
Coming up next:
Military intelligence are a bunch of traitors to our great nation.
-President Donald J Trump.
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PureLock335 hr ago
+6
"Any news that makes me look bad by highlighting my or my appointees' incompetences is illegal."
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soggit12 hr ago
+179
Didn’t the US bomb them for like a month straight? What the f*** were they bombing every day if not the 33 missle sites along the straight. Seems kind of like the most obvious target.
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Life_Without_Lemon11 hr ago
+103
What the U.S. spending 1 billion a day on? Steak and lobster?
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tryingisbetter7 hr ago
+20
Grifting
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666666Satanislife9 hr ago
+39
Apparently they were targeting the areas that didn’t have air defences. They avoided the more heavily defended areas. But that’s not from verified sources just chatter online
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Skeeter_2065 hr ago
+6
That's why they were hitting civilians to you know... Protect the civilians from the regime or whatever?
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SilverAgedSentiel11 hr ago
+60
There were schools in the way.
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usemyfaceasaurinal5 hr ago
+3
And painted decoys on runways
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UseBackground23707 hr ago
+9
They basically only hit Tehran and a few places in Isfahan.
In Tehran, they mostly hit IRGC affiliated buildings, most of which were empty: police departments, companies, safe houses, etc. They hit airports, specifically mehrabad. Almost daily for a while. They hit checkpoints set up by the irgc on the streets to kill citizens.
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ITSA-GONGSHOW9 hr ago
+11
Wait, the Americans have intelligence?
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howardbe14 hr ago
+92
I know this is fake news, because a guy who gets weird spray tans told me otherwise.
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wwarnout13 hr ago
+67
Wait...wait...What does Putin say? After all, Trump already rejected the US Intelligence assessment regarding Russian interference in the 2016 election.
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megaplex6611 hr ago
+9
I thought Trump said we took care of that last year when we "won the war"?
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butwhyisitso13 hr ago
+41
We still have intelligence? I guess intelligence is a spectrum too.
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ThatsThatGoodGood12 hr ago
+20
We have concepts of it, if nothing else
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macrocephalic11 hr ago
+7
Trump tomorrow: "The fake news, which no one reads, not funny, always wrong, bad genes, should have my nuclear genes, they quoted leaked intelligence, it's all fake - we destroyed it all"
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o_MrBombastic_o13 hr ago
+27
If only we had intelligent people in the Whitehouse who listened to US Intelligence
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ObviouslyRealPerson13 hr ago
+20
The intel analyst job is a constant game of leading a horse to water and trying to make it drink
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Epaminodas_11 hr ago
+3
Then beating the dead horse after it refused to drink.
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Legitimate-Arm-981610 hr ago
+5
How…we won the war in 1 day.
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Broad-Lobster74708 hr ago
+4
So you did nothing then.
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reflect2513 hr ago
+10
Sigh they just flip back and forth. They say all the missile sites are still working when they want to bomb Iran. Then say that everything is taken out when they want a ceasefire
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MusicFilmandGameguy11 hr ago
+3
U.S. Unintelligence says otherwise 🍤
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mountainfreshy999 hr ago
+3
What a total farce. Our government can’t be trusted with any bit of information. Dozy Don’s Vietnam.
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VoddieMC5 hr ago
+3
US Intelligence. One of my fave oxymorons.
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soggyarsonist5 hr ago
+3
The USA has not come out of this well.
Not only have they fucked the global economy but they look militarily weak as well since they've failed to prevent Iran from continuing it's retaliatory attacks on its neighbours and shipping.
I'm particularly pissed off that the fallout from this is helping the far right in the UK since it's undoing most of the economic improvements the current government achieved and the public largely put the blame on the government.
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doublelist874 hr ago
+1
We were lied to by Hegseth that the bombings in June 2025 wiped out Iran’s nuclear capabilities?
Were we also lied to by Hegseth that a girls school was blown up by Iran not the United States?
Everything is just one Big Beautiful LIE!!!
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goodtimtim9 hr ago
+3
It's not a good look go deplete 50% of our patriots, and 25% of our tomahawks and come out worse off then when we started. The trillion dollar war machine (anually) isn't set up to fight a modern conflict.
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AccomplishedBother129 hr ago
+2
Who would have guessed that leaning heavily on AI in their war planning could have led to such colossal failures?
/s
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StatelyTree9 hr ago
+2
Well sounds as though "Mr. Intelligence Services" didn't ask "Mr. Smartest-Man-In-The-Room" cause then they would know that Iran's entire military was "obliterated"!
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RodMcThrustshaft14 hr ago
+5
shockedpikachu.jpg
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Ok-Enthusiasm311412 hr ago
+5
Well of course the US says that... they're Israel's puppet.
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manniesalado5 hr ago
+1
I notice Trump's convoys through the Hormuz have been put on a fat hold.
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Unilted_Match11765 hr ago
+1
I thought they were obliterated at levels never seen before?
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Supernova_Soldier4 hr ago
+1
Oh, that fat f*** lied
Not surprised
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Packagedpackage4 hr ago
+1
Only djt and his cronies care.
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5150MEX70213 hr ago
+1
Exactly and this explains why Donnie is scared to do anything.
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championchilli8 hr ago
+2
If the IC is leaking this to the press, they are really pissed at the administration. It's a time honoured tradition.
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aotus_trivirgatus8 hr ago
+1
"The CIA is filled with low-energy losers. They're fired. I'm gonna get me some real intelligence officers. Oh, but Tulsi can stay." -- Donny, tomorrow
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Far_Drummer_140610 hr ago
+1
Yeah. No shit, Sherlock. Fox News will tell you otherwise, cause republicans dummmmmbbbbbb.
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NoRelief10639 hr ago
+1
US intelligence is a misnomer….it should be US non intelligence
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EnderDragoon8 hr ago
+2
From an air only campaign against an adversary that buried it's arsenal deep underground the best we could do is deny them access to their magazine for a couple weeks. If we're not maintaining closures to their underground facility then all they need is a few days with some basic earth moving hardware and the capability is back online. Kegsbreath likes to claim what was rendered inaccessible is "destroyed" but with the depth of cease fire they've had access to... I'd be willing to bet a rather large portion if not a majority of their fires potential has been restored.
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Harry_The-Bastard8 hr ago
+1
> Obliterated 🟠💩
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VegetableWishbone7 hr ago
+1
Is this any surprise? Iran has almost all of its missile manufacturing and storage inside mountains that are impervious to the biggest bunker buster bombs in the U.S. arsenal.
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SirTresmegestis5 hr ago
+2
But they gotta move those mobile launchers into position to use them. Hiding underground doesnt win wars - not when your main strait is being blockaded.
And even with all that mountain protect Iran still lost about 30% of its missel capabilities in just a few short months. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was the US who lost 30% of anything, NYtime would be calling it a major loss....
And people are being fooled by Trump. This wasnt his plan or idea - hes just taking credit for a military campaign he has nothing to do with. He was worrying about what his next 3am post would be up until the moment the war started. I wouldnt even be surprised if Military command kept him in the dark until the very last moment.
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mpompe11 hr ago
-1
Isn't this treasonous to report?
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FatFish4410 hr ago
+2
Not as long as the 1st amendment is still a thing
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WillTheyKickMeAgain13 hr ago
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The U.S. military isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
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Top_Action_609513 hr ago
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Hopefully we take them all out sooner than later
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Resident_Nothing_65912 hr ago
+2
I hear you. Hopefully someone other than Trump will be in charge; otherwise, it ain’t going to happen
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DDoubleDDog13 hr ago
-13
Even more reason to remove the regime from power. The regime must not be allowed to remain in power after all the horrific atrocities it carried out.
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alvinofdiaspar13 hr ago
+11
Great. I look forward to an intervention in Sudan.
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DrB0013 hr ago
+11
Yes I agree. When is the world going to remove Trump and Netanyahu from power?
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Some_Conference209112 hr ago
+8
Yes, the military junta in Myanmar is out of control. The atrocities carried out against millions of Rohingya is one of the most severe humanitarian and human rights crises of the 21st century.
Or were you talking about Gaza?
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Astralsketch13 hr ago
+2
not worth the lives required to do so.
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ThE_LAN_B4_TimE13 hr ago
+1
Its sad I dont know which "regime" you are talking about. Could be Iran could be US with Trump...
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xerthighus13 hr ago
+1
So what are your suggestions on achieving this objective. Most intelligent assessments also suggests a full scale invasion of Iran is unlikely to collapse the regime. The regime was only months in power and survived a full invasion by Iraq backed and supplied by the US and has dug in defensively since.
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Tall_Hat_42468 hr ago
What? You mean Trump has lied to us this whole time. I don’t believe it!
Of course they do and of course Trump is a liar.
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dweaver98711 hr ago
-2
And now that we have gotten their attention, they will focus on extending their mid-range missile capability to reach DC & NYC.
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Ice_Milk13 hr ago
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U.S. intelligence really is world‑class at writing scripts: same country, two stories — ‘Iran is a massive missile threat’ when they want to bomb, ‘Iran’s missile capability is basically wiped out’ when they want to brag. No wonder nobody believes them anymore.
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Some_Conference209112 hr ago
+18
The intelligence has been consistent, it's the politicians that are telling lies.
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RespectSquare827911 hr ago
-1
Should military and intelligence even be in the same sentence ?
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Snigglybear12 hr ago
-7
This is an excuse to keep the general public on the U.S. side so they can keep bombing Iran.
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NiewinterNacht12 hr ago
+11
This makes the US look super weak, though
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edelweiss_pirates_no9 hr ago
-2
Do not believe shit from the USA.
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Electroppp714 hr ago
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Go to iran and drop airdrop lots of books so children pick them up and become harder to recruit into the armed forces.
Drop epistemology and self care books.
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kkang_kkang14 hr ago
+23
Lol do the same in US so people won't elect pedo, that too twice.
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KazeNilrem12 hr ago
+8
That's the problem, especially for the red states. They purposefully look for ways to dumb down the population. It is not a coincidence that educated people typically lean more left, I mean trump said it himself, smart people do not like him.
It is easier to manipulate and control people who lack any sense of logic and reason.
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Electroppp713 hr ago
-4
Just do it everywhere
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Potential_Archer24274 hr ago
+1
Doesn't matter if they're unarmed and the irgc has the guns
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