I say we just pay the troll, it only works out to about two cents extra at the pump.
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dz45055 days ago
+8
Then other places will start charging for their water way.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
-6
Alright, alright, bad idea.
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datumerrata5 days ago
+1
It's really not about the fee. It's about Iran's recognized control.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
-3
Alright, guess we ain't paying the fee then. How to end this mess.
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dz45055 days ago
+1
Through negotiations. I imagine that a USA blockade will put more pressure on Iran to make a deal.
Both sides are using whatever they can to strengthen their hands at the negotiation table.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+3
US want Iran to give up its enriched uranium and Iran now has every reason under the sun to not give it up. On this point there will be no concession from either side, welcome to a forever war.
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dz45055 days ago
+3
Except there been reports that Iran did offered to stop Uranium enrichment?
They just disagree on the time of stopping at 5 years or 20 years. II look at it as kicking the can down the road.
This conflict will end with concession from both sides. No sides will have all of what they want.
My guess would be stop all attacks, lifting of certain sanctions, return frozen money to Iran (over time) in return from USA while USA gets straight reopening , stopping uranium enrichment for x years or whatever.
Few things I see USA will never concede: withdraw their military bases in Middle East and war reparations. Also any deal without uranium enrichment from stopping them from getting nuclear weapons.
International pressure will ramp up to make sure they get to the negotiation table. I would say this conflict will wrap up in a few months max if not weeks.
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BOPSurfcasting15 days ago
+2
I just took a look, Iran was to stop enrichment for 5 or 20 years, not permanently though. Basically like the 2015 nuclear deal that Trump threw in the rubbish can.
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dz45055 days ago
+2
Why I said that it’s kicking can down the road. They will force another agreement then.
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datumerrata5 days ago
+2
They did agree to stop uranium enrichment in 2015
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xnmyl4 days ago
+1
That sounds just like the old Iran nuclear deal
We're really going to spend tens of billions in direct military expenses just to get the same deal we had a decade ago? That's also not even touching the economic cost of the strait being closed this long
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Mediocre_Comedian7395 days ago
Except Trump’s word is meaningless. Iran was involved in negotiations when America and Israel took out their leadership. Why would anyone assume America will honour any agreement?
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dz45055 days ago
+2
Because that’s how conflict ends. At the negotiation table.
Even the worst one-sided conflict ends there unless you can annihilate the other side (genghis khan killing off entire populace and selling them to slavery)
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nu1stunna5 days ago
-8
Idk what else Iranians need to do/say. We do not want any country, group, organization, person, etc to negotiate with this f****** regime. Please do not throw lifelines to a dying terrorist regime. I’ll put this in American football terms: If you are up 28-3 in the second half of the Super Bowl, you run the f****** ball down your opponent’s throats and don’t give them a chance to come back. The alternative is to let the clock constantly stop by throwing incomplete passes and turn the ball over to give your opponent a chance to come back. No team is that stupid, right?
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I_spread_love_butter5 days ago
+3
I genuinely can't tell if you're talking about the US or Iran
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nu1stunna5 days ago
-4
You’re being disingenuous. I’m clearly talking about the Islamic terrorist regime that occupies Iran. We do not want anyone to help preserve them.
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I_spread_love_butter5 days ago
+1
*I am being disingenuous*
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xnmyl4 days ago
+1
I don't see regime change happening with the current state of the war
The regime isn't just going to gracefully step down, and it's clear at this point neither the Kurds nor the pretestors have the ability to overthrow the regime at this point
Only way we get regime change would be a years long war with boots on the ground. Israel doesn't have the forces for that, and the US has no appetite for another forever war cosing trillions
How exactly do you see regime change happening?
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True_Window_93894 days ago
+1
Regime change won’t happen without a full ground invasion, occupation and installment of a new government that would immediately be rejected and lead to civil war.
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