What about Chinese ships? Would American soldiers board a Chinese ship if it violated the illegal blockade?
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xSaRgED18 hr ago
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The USN has demonstrated clearly that they do what they are told.
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tundra44514 hr ago
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The vast majority of oil that China gets from Iran is not on Chinese flagged ships. This is done on purpose to avoid risk of any kind of secondary sanctions. I think people are overstating this scenario. China gets more of it's oil form UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, etc, anyways.
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TerraMindFigure14 hr ago
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Without knowing for sure I think you're correct but here's a counterpoint:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/chinese-oil-tanker-breaks-us-202508503.html
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Leraldoe18 hr ago
+11
No worries Trump will quickly back off of this
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lateread9er17 hr ago
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Two weeks…
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furryfrog0217 hr ago
+1
My guess is by....Tuesday.
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Leraldoe17 hr ago
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Far more likely just before the markets open Monday
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NoVax-Djocovid18 hr ago
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If it’s linked with Iran, I assume so.
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MSTRBASS200017 hr ago
+6
Chinese ships have already been blocked and lead away...nothing is getting bye the u.s destroyers blockading the straits....nothing
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TerraMindFigure17 hr ago
Chinese ships are being blocked, but what happens if one refuses the USN ask to turn away? Will the U.S. be boarding or shooting at Chinese ships?
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jamie991017 hr ago
+1
The ship will be bordered yes?
The US navy blockaded the Soviet Union at its peak.
It blockaded imperial Japan (pre war)
It can blockade Communist China.
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TerraMindFigure17 hr ago
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When did the U.S. blockade the Soviet Union? And I think your example of the U.S. embargo (...and embargo, not a blockade - big difference) is a bad example of things going well.
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jamie991017 hr ago
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Cuban missile crisis. The US was prepared to go to war to enforce a blockade vs a far more formidable navy than China currently has.
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TerraMindFigure17 hr ago
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Yeah, that's not a blockade of the Soviet Union so the stakes are much different. Framing that as a blockade of the Soviet Union is just dishonest. Even still, that's a terrible example. During the Cuban Missile Crisis the Soviets had a submarine nearly launched a nuclear missile. The blockade of Cuba was the closest humanity has ever come to a nuclear war.
Edit: typo
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jamie991016 hr ago
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China better study the Cuban missile crisis then? Because the US blockade is in place and any country including China risks armed conflict if they try to test it. Does China want to risk a war, or a potentially human life ending nuclear exchange? That’s a question they have to answer, for all our sake’s I hope they act logically and responsibly.
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jaa10113 hr ago
+5
> China better study the Cuban missile crisis
Because DJT is like JFK?
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TerraMindFigure15 hr ago
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China has many non-military options available to try to punish the U.S., what would the U.S. do if China captured an American ship in return? Much less, what do you think they would do if China cut the U.S. off from many of the critical goods and materials that China is relied on for? What if China dumped U.S. treasuries on the market and caused interest rates to sky rocket?
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beginner7516 hr ago
Any armed conflict arising from the blockade will definitely benefit Trump because it will prove his point.
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Scriefers16 hr ago
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Yes America will. And China wants none of that smoke. They are way smarter than that.
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TerraMindFigure15 hr ago
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China has other ways of responding outside of direct military confrontation, they control global trade of several critical goods and materials.
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Scriefers13 hr ago
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Yes and they rely on the continued trade of those critical materials and goods. China’s economy is in not ideal shape to be waging h******* economic war. And again, they are smarter than that, and know better than to do that.
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TerraMindFigure12 hr ago
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China's economy is doing great, and China needs the U.S. much less than the U.S. needs China.
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Scriefers12 hr ago
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I’m jealous of you.
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shootinjack15 hr ago
+1
Why wouldn’t they? The boarded Russian linked ships in Venezuela
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Frank956713 hr ago
+5
China has a lot more heft. For example, China might well board US flagged merchant ships in the Strait of Taiwan. With the US Navy bogged down in the Middle East, a Chinese fleet could potentially do that. How about blockading US ships transiting the Panama Canal? How about threatening to do that, but without actually doing it, and causing insurance costs to cripple US overseas shipping?
Pretty easy to cause major disruption that would also make the US look like the Keystone Cops chasing Chinese fleets. Less than a third of the way through his term, and the US is becoming a big joke.
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shootinjack10 hr ago
+1
China does not have a navy designed to project power in South America. The US still has a carrier strike group in South America. Any blockade on the Panama Canal would be broken immediately.
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MSTRBASS200012 hr ago
+1
Yes, every ship has been warned,that lethal force will be used if they try to dock in iran
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pirategirljess16 hr ago
whatever whim daddy trump has at the moment
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bestmaokaina14 hr ago
+5
I think my pizza arriving in more than 30 minutes has a better chance of happening than this lmao
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BOPSurfcasting114 hr ago
+3
Now you've just got me thinking of ordering a pizza tonight.
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physicsking17 hr ago
+11
Can we stop posting this until it happens? Or anything happens? I'm tired of all this saber rattling.
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DemosthenesOrNah14 hr ago
+2
clicks = $
when only engagement matters and next quarter profits are the sole motivator...no. it'll continue
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Television_Powerful19 hr ago
+8
If any dare to pass the strait..
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MSTRBASS200017 hr ago
+3
The more Iran acts like they r in charge, the more the u.s takes away....irans losing 5 hundred million a day on lost oil sales and the u.s blackaded the straits nothing hits Iran docks
Soon the oil spigots will have to be shutdown too due to oil storage limits and that harms the entire oil industry cause once spigots r shut there is no guaranty.of them coming back on
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Boysoythesoyboy13 hr ago
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Funny enough thats less than us has been spending a day for the operation.
For the oil spigots, that is a real issue, which is why they are unlikely to turn them off. They can just burn excess or pump storage it into reservoirs. Keeping the oil flowing long term is worth more than their current stores.
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MSTRBASS200012 hr ago
That not how it works...Iran has about 10 days of oil storage....once it's filled the spigots go to be turned off...no guarantee oil will pump again when you turn on the spigots again
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Boysoythesoyboy11 hr ago
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You dont have to turn it off, you can just spill it out, ot more likely burn it off. Or you can pump current storage into oil reservoirs. The point is that there are a bunch of alternatives to just turning them off
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Necx99910 hr ago
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They also have a pipeline outside the strait. They don’t need to ship anything on the inside with the pipeline on the outside. Sure it reduces the % of output but it don’t cripple them.
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Frank956713 hr ago
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That works with rational actors. Are you saying that the Ayatollahs are rational?
Because, if they aren't, then your scenario means looking at higher prices for gas for years. It also means that everything from ait tickets to farm produce needing fertiliser becomes way more expensive.
The Ayatollahs don't care if your gas, food, travel goes up 20%. Take a look in Afghanistan to see how much the religious leadership cares how poor they become.
Plus, when the US has someone in charge playing 4 dementia chess, the rest of the world shouldn't operate on the premise that the Ayatollahs are going to be the adults in the room.
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MSTRBASS200012 hr ago
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What ayatollahs ...they r all dead already, the us killed all of the 1st line leaders in 2 days, once Iran named replacements, they were all killed too then irgc named new leaders again ,next day all dead again
What's left after 3 layers of leadership were eliminated...we r now dismantling irgc piece by piece...
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Frank956712 hr ago
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Sure. And that's what people said about the Afghani leadership too. How did that go?
And, of course, the Straits of Hormuz are still closed. That's not what winning looks like. That's counting your chickens before they hatch.
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marawki10 hr ago
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The son is still alive, very wounded, but alive and involved in decisions.
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SanDiedo16 hr ago
+1
Delulu. Just admit USA has no plan and leadership. It's a "drunkard's work" - morons and drug addicts are in charge, fumbling and stumbling. Nothing good ever comes out of it.
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Chance_External_437115 hr ago
+1
Thou shall not pass! Unless you answer 3 questions correctly
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Pidgeonscythe9 hr ago
+1
The Pirate Age
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thefunkybassist18 hr ago
They might just confiscate a couple of oil tankers for pocket money / private stash / sell for uncle P.
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ViolettaQueso17 hr ago
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Someone’s gotta get something to fill the 121 empty tankers Trump bragged about letting thru and sending on their way to Louisiana to fill up with US oil for the world.
We don’t have it.
His lies are catching up with him.
That medical ship never did arrive in Greenland to emergency treat all the really sick Greenlanders who are ignored by their mother country…
Why does nobody have it in them to hold him accountable???
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TangoPRomeo17 hr ago
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Because the entire two-party system is broken and corrupt.
Every eligible voter clearly needs to vote blue to fight back what the GOP has become. But once this crim is out of office, we really need to reevaluate who we are putting into offices at all levels of government.
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ViolettaQueso16 hr ago
Agree. Also we’ve gotta close the loop holes it seems they’re using AI to find to poop on the constitution.
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Scriefers16 hr ago
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[There’s a whole convoy of VLCs on their way to America right now. So many so that America won’t be able to utilize them because they simply don’t have the infrastructure to move that much oil. America has the oil, its ports are the saturated limiting factors](https://youtube.com/watch?v=cGQVhnP0POE)
[The hospital ship never made it to Greenland because Greenland quickly refused receiving it. And it couldn’t have made it into any Greenland ports either, it’s too large. And it’s in dock in Alabama getting maintained before that shipyard is undergoing reconstruction in May](https://youtu.be/QlxipwQR7Fo)
Put more effort into your understandings.
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Fearless_Tie575110 hr ago
Pirates
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BeardoftheManwhore18 hr ago
-5
A secret service agent could the the funniest thing..
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Spinoza429 hr ago
+1
What if it's an actual Iranian ship? Will they board that too? That's almost too good an opportunity for Iran to ignore, right?
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