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News & Current Events Apr 21, 2026 at 4:03 PM

US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot

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US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot
the Guardian
US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot
Defense secretary Pete Hegseth makes announcement and calls military’s flu vaccine mandate ‘broad’ and ‘not rational’

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fiendishrabbit 1 day ago +3449
I'm pretty sure lots of unvaccinated troops in cramped conditions is EXACTLY how the Spanish flu started.
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ManWithASquareHead 1 day ago +813
I'm sure things like meningococcal vaccines are next. Those are ***devastating*** to enclosed groups of people
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joelupi 21 hr ago +203
I was at BCT at FLW back in spring of 2011 and we had someone test positive for meningitis. Command went nuts and we scrubbed down every single surface of the barracks with bleach. Twice. Floor to ceiling, every single crack, crevice, and surface. You could smell the bleach outside. Then someone else tested positive and we had to do this again. We had to leave every window open all day to air it out otherwise our eyes would burn. It was worse than the gas chamber. I cannot imagine doing this on a warship or finding a way to do this when deployed.
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Ok_Faithlessness8375 17 hr ago +94
Oh dude, they won’t. They will just say it’s a false negative, keep it internal, and when everyone gets horribly ill, they will blame it on the E-2 “lack of person hygiene standard” and retroactively admin separate half the so they can’t get service connected. Duh.
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myyrkezaan 1 day ago +334
It is believed to have originated in the United States, with the first recorded cases occurring at Camp Funston in Fort Riley, Kansas. It's called the Spanish Flu because Spain was pretty much the only country covering it. The others involved in the war censored that information.
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Noof42 1 day ago +107
More recent genetic testing suggests that the Kansas origin theory probably isn't how it happened, and that the strain may well have been around in some form for about three years before it exploded. [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6381288/](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6381288/) Oddly enough, though, the particular strain of virus itself still probably originated in the Americas, although they weren't able to tell for sure where the epidemic itself started.
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cardboardunderwear 1 day ago +8285
> Hegseth described the mandate as “overly broad” and “not rational” and the decision to drop the vaccine requirement as “seizing this moment to discard any absurd overreaching mandates that only weaken our war fighting capabilities”. Just wait until Pete sees what a flu outbreak does to his war fighting capabilities.
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KimJongFunk 1 day ago +3283
He’ll be too drunk to understand it.
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MaximumSyrup3099 1 day ago +789
"If I can do my job three sheets to the wind and/or while puking into a bucket, so can our soldiers!"
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Separate_Flamingo_93 1 day ago +307
Found Kash.
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No-Builder-1038 1 day ago +97
Where was he passed out this time?
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UnquestionabIe 1 day ago +77
Passed out? I thought he was taking lessons on how to teleport from that one guy who is a FEMA official. Seriously it is the most hilarious batshit insane garbage coming from someone with a clear substance abuse problem trying to get ahead of it by claiming he was randomly teleported to Waffle House like he's Nightcrawler from X-Men
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MaximumSyrup3099 1 day ago +28
Does Nightcrawler find himself doing surprise teleports to Waffle House or ditches too?
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stevesmele 1 day ago +10
Check out what the recently fired Labor Secretary was up to. Makes Kash look like a saint. Her husband and father are worse.
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mrdominoe 1 day ago +482
Not rational? What the everliving f*** is this drunk moron talking about?
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10000Didgeridoos 1 day ago +214
Not rational means “shit we don’t like” in maga-ese
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whiskydyc 23 hr ago +42
“I don’t understand it and I’m rational”
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AngryBird-svar 1 day ago +73
Its AMAZING how these dorks still can’t get over their vax phobia. They really can’t walk back on their stance can they?
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GoodIdea321 21 hr ago +38
Science contradicts their worldview, and their view is they are right no matter what. So anything which could threaten that idea is a real threat to their psyche.
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voodoomotyl 1 day ago +28
Not "rational" to a moron. This entire administration is the ultimate example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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safari_king 1 day ago +295
The rationalization is so dumb. Somehow, requiring inoculation against the flu weakens the military.
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JayEllGii 1 day ago +168
God, he is such a pathetic, weak, tryhard little p****.
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UnquestionabIe 1 day ago +37
Expected from someone who probably spent his entire military career drunk and watching 80s action movies.
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JayEllGii 1 day ago +35
I mean, I’m keeping it real here —- Hegseth, unlike me, was physically brave enough to volunteer for the military and be in combat, something I could never do. And I have never been in a fight, don’t know how to be in one, and worry whether I’d be brave enough in a sudden moment of crisis to take physical action against a threat. And despite *all* of that, Hegseth is a figure of such palpable, overwhelming clownishness and painfully obvious male insecurity that even I have no problem calling him a p****, and I’d tell him so to his face. That’s really saying something.
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Pyromaniacal13 1 day ago +86
Well, yeah. People get the flu vaccine, people get autism from the vaccine, people hyperfixate on trains and leave the military for a career in rail based logistics instead of becoming a truck driver like the economy demands. It's happened every single year since the flu vaccine started, haven't you noticed? /s
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flyingtrucky 1 day ago +28
Without autism the military would lose like a quarter of their tankers.
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BrannyBee 1 day ago +21
>People get the flu vaccine, people get autism from the vaccine The last thing we want are soldiers that strictly adhere to rules who thrive on schedules /s
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N0stradama5 1 day ago +535
Our enemies can just send a bunch of blankets covered in flu germs.
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nicht_ernsthaft 1 day ago +209
Seriously though, how much would it cost Russia, China, etc to pay a few hot young women to deliberately get flu/covid/norovirus, then go make out with as many drunk sailors as they can in bars at port towns and near military bases? Put something under fake fingernails of a temp waitress and drip them in their drinks and food. What does it cost per day to run a carrier group? What is the strategic value of diminishing its readiness before a critical event?
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Kytyngurl2 22 hr ago +75
Oh god, norovirus on a navy vessel would suck so much, especially one under supplied with hygiene products
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TheArmoredKitten 21 hr ago +46
Norovirus outbreak on the Ford would see the captain shot for doing anything other than seek the nearest safe harbor. They were shitting in buckets *without* a bio-terror threat. This is very bad for war-fighting capacity.
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manbeardawg 1 day ago +75
Hey, that’s our line!
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Aerodrache 1 day ago +22
Hell, forget the blankets, just send them through a school or shopping mall and it’ll be straight up War of the Worlds.
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takeahike89 1 day ago +106
Washington mandated small pox innoculation in the army specifically to strengthen their war fighting abilities. You'd think these guys would at least look to their war heros for lessons.
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kenderson73 1 day ago +35
That sounds a bit too woke for this admin.
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OrangeJr36 1 day ago +108
It's very simple actually: He doesn't believe in diseases
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nicht_ernsthaft 1 day ago +24
RFK Junior told him the flu shot was woke at their last kegger and roadkill BBQ.
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skyblueerik 1 day ago +48
That's why he never washes his hands.
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liltingly 1 day ago +49
If I have to hear "war fighting" one more god damned time... For people so obsessed with how society at large chooses to label things, this seems like one of the dumbest ones to lean in on. Like, there are so many existing and sufficient words for this. A "war fighter" diminishes the role to be an adjective swap away from "cage fighter", "prize fighter" and "c*** fighter".
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ShrimpieAC 22 hr ago +15
He thinks it sounds cooler. Hegseth belongs in a sandbox smashing toy tanks together and making explosion sounds with his mouth. Thats all I can see every time I hear that stupid m*********** talk.
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futureman45 1 day ago +109
He may want to read up on the revolutionary war and understand how many soldiers died of small pox.
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Mend1cant 1 day ago +122
Literally every war before vaccines. Every single war, it was more likely that soldiers died of disease in camp than on the field.
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Strykerz3r0 1 day ago +43
Republicans have known fear of fact checking.
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chihsuanmen 1 day ago +46
The literal solution to the problem was inoculating the Continental Army, a precursor to vaccination. Hegseth slurs about the “lethality” of “warfighters” on a regular basis and cannot get his pickled brain to understand that warfighters cannot be lethal when they’re convalescing in their barracks or medical facilities.
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Dmbender 1 day ago +95
This dumb f*** has never heard of the Spanish Flu
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Ahelex 1 day ago +60
Nah, he probably thinks only Mexicans get that, not pure-blooded American soldiers /s
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Dramatic_Security3 1 day ago +32
And the "Spanish flu" is literally just standard influenza. It's the same virus he just stopped requiring vaccination for.
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-Altephor- 1 day ago +27
It also probably started... surprise surprise... in the US, on a military base.
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WoolooOfWallStreet 1 day ago +13
Also it killed [43,000 US Soldiers](https://www.nps.gov/articles/influenza-at-camp-sherman.htm) near the end of WWI
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samanime 1 day ago +47
Seriously. One soldier with a kindergartener at home and a whole batallion stops being fighting fit for at least a week...
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BananaPalmer 1 day ago +23
Longer than that.. aboard a ship with thousands of people? That shit is gonna bounce around for months, likely for the duration of the deployment, constantly mutating. As soon as you're over one flu, you catch its mutated offspring all over again. It will quite literally just take *one person* infected to start it off.
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JT00000000000000 1 day ago +10
Remember the “Great War”? The one that killed less people than the Spanish flu?
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HooliganBeav 1 day ago +10
Yes, the famous laissez faire military strategy. That should work.
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fsactual 1 day ago +806
Combat readiness is woke.
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Cheese-Manipulator 23 hr ago +85
Logic and reason is PC
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ShigodmuhDickard 1 day ago +7511
Guess they never learned about WW1. Idiots.
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ManWithASquareHead 1 day ago +3586
Those who don't learn history, ~~are doomed to repeat it~~ label it as woke DEI garbage that's for pansies
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Fweenci 1 day ago +849
And then repeat it. 
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Lyftaker 22 hr ago +286
Well they can't read so it will be new to them.
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ArcticCelt 23 hr ago +149
Those who don't learn history, are getting hired in the Trump administration. With a bonus.
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Aviri 1 day ago +1364
George Washington inoculated his troops during the f****** revolution and this moron is stopping vaccinations because of brainrotted conservatives.
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ArbitraryNPC 1 day ago +175
Damn, I'd never heard that before. Thats super interesting!
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leadrombus 1 day ago +666
George Washington enacted the [first medical mandate](https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolutionary-war.htm#:~:text=George%20Washington%20enacted%20the%20first%20medical%20mandate%20in%20American%20history.) in American history. He understood the grave threat smallpox imposed upon the Continental Army and their chances of winning the war. In a letter to the medical director of the Continental Army, Washington proclaimed: > Finding the smallpox to be spreading much and fearing that no precaution can prevent it from running thro’ the whole of our Army, **I have determined that the Troops shall be inoculated**. This Expedient may be attended with some inconveniences and some disadvantages, but yet I trust, in its consequences will have the most happy effects. Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, **for should the disorder infect the Army, in the natural way, and rage with its usual Virulence, we should have more to dread from it, than from the sword of the enemy.**
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windraver 23 hr ago +146
Wow that's a cool part of history I learned today. Thanks for sharing this!
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Both-Prize-2986 22 hr ago +143
Plagues have ended many military campaigns in history.
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mr_potatoface 21 hr ago +54
When I studied this a little, I was astounded by how many people would die or be otherwise unable to fight because of non-combat related things. Illness being the top, but also just plain old starvation. Then you add in infection to wounds and it just gets awful. Over 600k people died in the American Civil War and 2/3 of those deaths were due to disease/illness. More recent estimates have said that 700-850k may have died, with the same 2/3 split.
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FiveCrappedPee 20 hr ago +21
It's so funny how Washington was an objectively horrible field commander, but he made little decisions like this behind the scenes,and made sure he surrounded himself with smart people (Stueben, Pulaski et al) and became a great general. History is a trip.
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Niceromancer 1 day ago +67
It wasn't exactly super clean.  He's have them mix a little blood from someone who had been infected with their own  Still better than nothing but...eww
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eronth 22 hr ago +85
That should be a hint as to how bad diseases are. Willingly infecting yourself with a weaker version of a sickness to avoid the full version, knowing there's a risk of death in doing so.
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FaceDeer 21 hr ago +58
It's so weird that a country where unexpectedly finding yourself in need of basic emergency health services will bring financial ruin to you and your whole family for generations is the country where *preventative* medical care has become taboo.
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eronth 21 hr ago +25
Conservatives just really really want to believe that medical stuff is fake and everyone who is sick can just be tough to heal up and anyone else is just a p****... or something like that. It's a narrative that seems to change depending on the circumstances.
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nycsingletrack 22 hr ago +82
Smallpox had something like a 30% mortality rate. I’d take the inoculation.
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Late-Application-47 22 hr ago +20
Wow. That was 20 years before it was discovered that exposure to cowpox was an effective innoculation.
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gonzo_gat0r 1 day ago +89
These people wax on about the founding fathers but don’t know anything beyond repeating 1776 and “We the people”
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popejupiter 22 hr ago +29
Also that they were Christians, and therefore this is a Christian nation. Even though their relationship with the church was... Complicated, to say the least. Yes they were Christian, and yes they went to church, but it wasn't the basis of their identities like modern fundies.
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EmbarrassedW33B 20 hr ago +18
Modern American Christianity would be baffling and disgusting to people from the 1700s. Not even the Catholic Church indulged in such absurd debauchery as a typical evangelical mega-church-mall 
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grat_is_not_nice 1 day ago +743
Yep. The "*Spanish"* flu pandemic started in the US among soldiers mustering for WWI and spread to Europe on infected troop-ships.
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UltimaCaitSith 1 day ago +242
That's also a hint on how it's going to be reported. "Troops attacked by foreign bioweapon."
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concept12345 22 hr ago +90
Spain got the label for the "Spanish" flu for doing the right thing: reporting and documenting it on the news. Smh
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firemage22 21 hr ago +22
Since everyone else was covering it up to avoid showing weakness to the otherside
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ThaddeusJP 23 hr ago +17
45000 troops died via the flu
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xCyn1cal0wlx 1 day ago +76
They did, they just don't care. For this administration, winning culture wars matter more than lives.
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MaximumConcept25 1 day ago +33
The largest cause of death of militaries across history has always been disease, sickness, and infection. This only changed in recent history due to mass vaccination.
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bp92009 1 day ago +65
Why *should* they? They don't care about history or actual performance. They do not fear any legal repercussions for any of their decisions, hiding behind "Absolute Immunity" when the consequences happen. They act like they can wish reality into being, and will force actually sane people into sacrificing systems that were built over literal *hundreds of years* to try and force their wishes into reality. When it fails, they bail, and avoid all accountability.
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cstough 1 day ago +12025
Hahahaha what could possibly go wrong when you've got hundreds of people crammed onto an aircraft carrier together for 7 months?
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TheLoneTomatoe 1 day ago +2992
Not to be pedantic, just pointing out it’s even worse, theres around 5k people on a carrier..
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punkasstubabitch 1 day ago +801
Imagine a situation like the Gerald Ford with the toilets and plumbing
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timesuck897 1 day ago +272
Worse, gastro on the Gerald Ford.
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obliviousofobvious 1 day ago +203
Even worse...submarine gets hit with noro...
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thisusedyet 1 day ago +71
What are the torpedo tubes if not one giant toilet?
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Techn028 1 day ago +117
I love forgetting lessons learned from ~~WWI~~ the age of sail
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Equivalent-Resort-63 1 day ago +64
Yearning for the days of scurvy.
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PortHammer 1 day ago +40
Navy is going to get issued rum rations again with Kegseth in charge.
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suicide_nooch 1 day ago +29
I remember when my entire platoon got dysentery in Iraq. At least we were on dry land, in the desert, and could drop trousers to spray out of both ends at the same time whenever we wanted.
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inosinateVR 1 day ago +127
5k flu carriers on a carrier
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TheLoneTomatoe 1 day ago +102
How many flu carriers could a carrier carry if a carrier carried flu carriers?
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alezial 1 day ago +32
I get the reference but… oh the carriers do carry carriers and the answer is all of them. I was on board an LHD (mini carrier) for Covid and there was no amount of cleaning we could that made anything much better. Entire work centers would get sick, get better eventually, then all get sick again.
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cbowers 1 day ago +20
Because it’s less about the surface cleaning and more about the air/HVAC config. At the family level we had covid in the house twice (and even in an all day car trip once), and no other infections resulted in others present. Where-as those who brought it home, got it from home and office spaces with poorly managed HVAC. At 1000-2000 ppm CO2 a noticeable chunk of every breath has recently been in someone else’s lungs. Rebreathed fraction approx = C indoor - C outdoor / C exhaled - C outdoor
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Cynical_Classicist 1 day ago +16
It just gets worse and worse!
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Throwawaylikeme90 1 day ago +10
…that’s the winter population of my old hometown when all the rich people leave. That’s actually insane, I knew carriers were huge but I for some reason underestimated the scale of how many people they can carry. 
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warrant2k 1 day ago +543
Remember in 2020 when COVID got so bad on USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT the ship was ordered to Guam? Initially the affected crew members were removed but it kept spreading and the CO wanted to most of the crew removed from the ship. An entire aircraft carrier was basically out of service because of rampant covid. Doesn't sound battle ready at all.
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lostatsea_again 1 day ago +103
The captain/admiral on that incident wrote a fairly decent book. I came across it because he’s a surfer and talks about surfing in his book. 
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NotPromKing 1 day ago +69
I'm amused at the idea of an captain/admiral being a surfer. I know they're people just like the rest of us with hobbies and interests, but still, to my simpleton mind it's amusing.
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lostatsea_again 1 day ago +57
Lots of navy people come from California as it’s a huge military state. Then many of them are posted in Oahu when they’re new in their career. So lots of opportunities for military folk to pick up surfing.  In 2023, Crozier wrote a memoir, Surf When You Can: Lessons in Life, Loyalty, and Leadership from a Maverick Navy Captain, in which he describes how surfing has helped him balance his life. He told Joe Garofoli of the San Francisco Chronicle: "The more time I've spent with family, friends—things outside of work—the better I could focus and the better I could perform at work."[51][50]
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inosinateVR 1 day ago +311
>The US army developed the first flu vaccine at the start of the second world war due to concern of a repeat of the influenza outbreak of 1918 and its effect on military readiness and combat capabilities. Soldiers served as large-scale test subjects for the program at the University of Michigan. Its first widespread use was licensed for the military in 1945 and later for civilians. The irony. But it’s fine, I’m sure Pete Hegseth knows better than those guys who literally invented the vaccine in order to make our military more effective…
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hexcraft-nikk 23 hr ago +48
That's what kills me about all the anti-science stuff lol. The country started almost everything, from medical advances to the technology that gave us the Internet, because of the military and capitalist apparatus that our government is an extension of lol. We're rolling back stuff that directly benefitted our imperialism because of "woke" and the overall culture war. America really is eating itself alive.
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tabrizzi 1 day ago +2293
If they all pray regularly, they should be fine. /s
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hifidad 1 day ago +685
Pulp fiction verses make you immune to the flu
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Ordinary-Leading7405 1 day ago +150
Especially when you are beset on all sides by the virulent
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johnnyrollerball69 1 day ago +91
And I will strike down upon thee with great body aches and furious incontinence those who attempt to countermine my psychobabble!!!
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Sumthin-Sumthin44692 1 day ago +91
That famously worked well for hundreds of years. As we all know there weren’t any cases of mass deaths due flu or plagues before 2020. /s Seriously, these people are all foreign agents, right? They must be *trying* to hurt our military and ability to defend ourselves, right?
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magikarp2122 1 day ago +18
There’s a reason Agent Orange suck Putin’s balls.
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RomulusAndThe3Makane 1 day ago +55
They are their brothers flu keeper
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PaddyMcGeezus 1 day ago +51
I remember basic training with 60 guys in bunk beds and giant dirty metal fans at each end spreading everyone's sneezes and coughs to the whole room. Germs were bad enough with that and vaccines.
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driftingfornow 1 day ago +139
Former Navy here: unhinged decision lol literally unhinged  Once one person got gastroenteritis. By the end of the day people were puking while driving the boat and shitting their pants navigating. 
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ijustsailedaway 1 day ago +119
This is how I know things are completely off the rails. This is not a political decision. This is really f****** terrible management. Having a military force possibly succumb to a preventable illness is absolutely bonkers.
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tempest_87 1 day ago +80
It is a political decision. Because people decided that common sense and scientific fact was a political topic where their opinions matter just as much (if not more) than reality. *Everything* is politics because it only takes one side, one person, to make anything "political".
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Eccohawk 1 day ago +26
Is liking supposed to say puking?
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arealuser100notfake 1 day ago +10
That makes sense. I thought leaking!
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deletetemptemp 1 day ago +337
I truly believe Russia and chine infiltrated the US and is bit by bit taking us apart
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descendingangel87 1 day ago +354
Nah, this is just anti intellectualism and has been a growing issue since the 80s and 90s.
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55tarabelle 1 day ago +65
Everytime I hear since the 80s, I see Reagan and the beginning of the downturn of everything good in the US. He was the start.
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Zombie_Cool 1 day ago +202
Im sure its both. Russia and China didnt create the dark undercurrents of our culture, they're just exploiting it for all its worth.
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pantstoaknifefight2 1 day ago +72
Russia created bot farms that infiltrated shit like Moms Against Vaccines, which in turn pushed for Trump over Clinton in the run up to the 2016 election. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/health/russia-trolls-vaccine-debate-study
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Gekokapowco 1 day ago +27
they're absolutely utilizing social media and existing groups to undermine our stability but we really gotta ask ourselves why a "Moms Against Vaccines" group is allowed to exist in the first place, and where it came from.
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mwbbrown 1 day ago +72
Exactly, they didn't make this guy stupid, they helped elevate the stupid.
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Kaylend 1 day ago +22
We don't need foreign entities to destroy America, we have oligarchs at home.
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dj_spanmaster 1 day ago +33
The anti-intellectualism isn't just a natural occurrence. It's at least partially if not completely a product of misinformation and other intelligence operations. We could have prevented it, and did not, because Our Freedumbs.
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OuijaWalker 1 day ago +36
Trump is so far in Putin's pocket that Trump can smell his balls.
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DarklySalted 1 day ago +54
Osama Bin Laden won the war on terror.
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EaterOfFood 1 day ago +9
It was never a fair fight
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Saneless 1 day ago +14
Well, they get sick. And because you're a p**** to Heggsy if you don't keep at it while sick, some may die of myocarditis because that's caused often by viruses and is why you should take it easy when sick
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Eccohawk 1 day ago +11
On the subs they -SHARE- beds.
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quats555 1 day ago +9
Eugenics, except they all believe they are “the strong ones” who will survive while “the weak” die.
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Mean_Neighborhood462 1 day ago +16
It’s not “survival of the strongest,” it’s “survival of the fittest.” And by “fittest” Darwin meant the best suited to survive the prevailing conditions. The “fittest” during flu season are those who are inclined to get the shot. I’d say let the antivaxxers wipe themselves out, but they’re going to take far too many sensible people out in the process.
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Imaginary_Green8409 1 day ago +2054
Not sure we can survive 3 more long, miserable and ignorant years with this administration.
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nemisis714 1 day ago +799
This past year has been the longest in recent memory.
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bigloser42 1 day ago +314
The last year has been the longest decade of my life.
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cmm239 1 day ago +128
A decade of my life has been dominated by Trump and it will be another several decades before we recover, if it’s even possible.
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AncientSith 1 day ago +77
Even after this f***** is in the grave, we still have to hear his name. So sick of it.
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cmm239 1 day ago +40
I’m starting to believe he will never kick the bucket. We will never recover from him. All our lives have been made permanently more difficult because of Trump and the republicans.
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awmaleg 1 day ago +72
“Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” - we just got on the Interstate, kids
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been2thehi4 1 day ago +63
F****** hell I realized it’s only been a year with this bullshit.
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IPissExcellentThrows 1 day ago +45
A year and 3 months. Don't try and put 3 more months of evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
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TeBp242 1 day ago +21
It’s only been a year??
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Abramshunter 1 day ago +984
Can't wait to see an entire US military unit rendered combat ineffective due to illness from a literal coughing baby (which was entirely preventable).
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ManWithASquareHead 1 day ago +290
1918 pandemic likely started amongst the troops.... Just saying
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Beautiful-Station143 1 day ago +96
Thanks for reminding that we are also going get the Pandemic 2.0 from this administration starting WWWlll.
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Awesome_Leaf 1 day ago +45
in the "coughing baby vs nuclear bomb" fight, i was not expecting the baby to win
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CRAkraken 1 day ago +679
Nothing like a battalion made combat ineffective because of the flu.
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Dandan0005 1 day ago +187
A little history lesson: George Washington enforced the first mandatory inoculation against smallpox among his troops during the revolutionary war, and it’s widely accepted that the Continental Army would have lost the war without that decision.
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bbcversus 1 day ago +60
That was so woke! / s
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The_Flurr 1 day ago +213
It's not like disease outbreak has ever brought a military to its knees before.
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hollsberry 1 day ago +58
Fun fact: disease was the #1 killer during the American civil war. Approx 2/3 of deaths were caused by disease
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No-Score9153 1 day ago +49
Its actually true for most of the campaigns in history before WW1 Historically war is 95% marching and foraging and 5% battle. Exhausted/tired people drinking whatever they can find fall sick easily and in military camps the disease then spreads like wildfire.
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Gekokapowco 1 day ago +18
our amazing revolution of military techology, putting us miles ahead of our peers, was our capacity to get standardized quality food and supplies to our frontlines anywhere in the world, it's said the US Military is the greatest logistics program in human history. We remove that, we tumble behind all of the countries that have copied us. We have multimillion dollar carriers with the latest tech and weapons that nobody can use effectively because they're starving and sick. Frankly, its quite American now that I think about it.
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OkFineIllUseTheApp 1 day ago +34
He's definitely one of those "Suck it up, you're a man, act like it" types. He will demand soldiers near delirious from fever be transferred to active combat *specifically* to toughen them up.
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Ronho 1 day ago +30
Its not as though Kegsbreath ever had to know anything about combat effectiveness
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Fluffy_Brilliant_718 1 day ago +52
So glad we're fighting the real issues here in America. /s
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Pyromaniacal13 1 day ago +13
Imagine a flu outbreak on a ballistic missile sub because Seamen Apprentice Johnny Trump Supporter brought the flu on board.
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ganymede_boy 1 day ago +386
Because big, tough manly-men like Hegseth can fend off viruses with their bulging biceps!
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Callabrantus 1 day ago +96
"Real men don't get the flu! ALPHA!! Get on my level!"
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Lord_Heckle 1 day ago +23
Whiskey kills germs, duh!
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hkohne 1 day ago +31
I totally read that in Colin Jost's voice
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RipErRiley 1 day ago +153
What medical basis did he cite other than bitterness over Republicans having their bad Covid takes debunked by science and reality (like all of their other stances honestly)?
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jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn 1 day ago +45
The point is to cull the herd of the sickly and elderly. They want people to die. There's no other reason to do this ...and cut cancer research funding ...and cut off medical care funding ...and hire goons to shoot people in the streets ...and bomb Iran
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korben2600 23 hr ago +18
“The best alternative to genociding the undesirables is permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies.” --[Curtis Yarvin](https://theplotagainstamerica.com/#yarvin)
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badwords 1 day ago +75
I remember when they fired a captain of a carrier because he refused to deploy with have his ship with covid. His troops cheered his name as he walked off his ship.
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amateur_mistake 16 hr ago +10
Wonder who the president was then. Probably shouldn't reelect him.
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GuinnessGlutton 1 day ago +116
Clowns running the circus. So embarrassing.
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imaconnect4guy 1 day ago +210
George Washington instituted a mandatory vaccine program in 1777. The military has literally regressed 250 years with this idiocy.
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thisusedyet 1 day ago +54
It's how he's celebrating the 250th anniversary
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rbrgr83 22 hr ago +14
But Palantir is over here dog-whistling that other 'cultures' are mid and are *regressive* in nature. B****, I see 1 country on this planet that's leading the f****** pack on regression right now.
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Kale_Earnhart 1 day ago +41
Owning the libs by getting the flu.
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yhwhx 1 day ago +24
...and spreading it all over the barracks, aircraft carrier, or submarine.
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Actual_Noodle 1 day ago +39
So they’ve been required to get a flu shot every year? Cool, so clearly there isn’t any issue with taking that vaccine if we’ve done it for f****** decades. If there was any truth to the whole “weakens our fighting capabilities” this would have happened long ago lol. Trump and kegsbreath aren’t the first people in power to go “we need to strengthen our military!!1!” If anything we should cut their v*****, what are soldiers doing rock hard on the battlefield? It could be drawing away their focus from the enemy /s
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KLGChaos 1 day ago +193
They really are doing everything they can to destroy the US from the inside.
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Ok_Replacement4702 1 day ago +124
It's almost like a Russian plant is in office Oh wait
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Just__Az__Nice 1 day ago +51
So we have given up on military readiness… nice
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EggNo289 1 day ago +29
Fun Fact: On average 35,000 Americans die from the flu EVERY YEAR.
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Bearded_Guardian 1 day ago +122
The smart ones will get it anyway
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baseketball 1 day ago +197
Yes, but the flu vaccine, like all vaccines, isn't 100% effective. If you're going to be in close quarters, you want 100% compliance to reduce the chances for everyone which is why vaccinations have always been mandatory.
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ManWithASquareHead 1 day ago +42
I don't think germ theory and herd theory are this administration's forte...
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NicolasCemetery 1 day ago +19
Which means the smart ones will be working extra hours to make up for the mission failure due to the dumb ones being out sick.
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DayleD 1 day ago +49
To anyone who thinks our fit troops won't be affected, the Spanish Flu killed the healthy with their own immune systems. A cytokine storm. 'Survival of the fittest' is neutral as to what counts as fitness.
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ARGENTAVIS9000 1 day ago +24
russian propaganda spread anti-vaccine conspiracy theories that are now influencing our armed forces. nice.
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TheCzar11 1 day ago +41
Russia pushed the anti vax stuff for decades. MAGA comes along and falls for it.
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mindguru88 21 hr ago +18
We all need to ask ourselves, "what would a foreign agent tasked with weakening the US do in this situation?" We then need to ask, "why the f*** is that what our government is doing?"
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sylbug 1 day ago +39
Flu outbreaks on warships are gonna suck. Ah well, I’m sure it will toughen up some war fighters, of some shit.
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perpetual_student 1 day ago +14
Controlling the spread of disease has been a central tenet of war-fighting since the beginning of recorded history. F****** moron.
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drumrhyno 1 day ago +11
It's almost like the people leading the "Department of War" haven't actually done any research on how wars are won/lost. Hey Pete, I'll give you a hint, infectious disease is almost ALWAYS a major contributing factor.
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hairy_quadruped 17 hr ago +12
Fun fact: the “Spanish Flu” of 1918 that killed between 20-50 million people possibly originated in the US and was definitely carried to the UK and Europe by US troops during WW1.
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theghostlore 1 day ago +23
Spanish flu killed more soldiers than many wars combined.
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RheimsNZ 17 hr ago +12
Incredible. The weakening of the US through their own ridiculous ideologies is just incredible. It's the era of the "self own" for them and I know that but I'm STILL continuously surprised
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JuniperJupiter4 1 day ago +11
Ahh barracks and the flu. A classic combination.
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NotGordan 1 day ago +10
USA sends missiles Enemy Countries send in one sick POW
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shawn_overlord 17 hr ago +10
News in 6 months: US Military stricken by mystery illness forces operations to halt
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CapitalPunBanking 1 day ago +34
Nobody hates the troops more than Republicans.
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jarena009 1 day ago +21
Virus prevention is woke. Getting debilitating viruses is manly. s/ (obviously)
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