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News & Current Events Apr 21, 2026 at 4:03 PM

US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot

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US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot
the Guardian
US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot
Defense secretary Pete Hegseth makes announcement and calls military’s flu vaccine mandate ‘broad’ and ‘not rational’

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fiendishrabbit Apr 21, 2026 +3449
I'm pretty sure lots of unvaccinated troops in cramped conditions is EXACTLY how the Spanish flu started.
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ManWithASquareHead Apr 21, 2026 +813
I'm sure things like meningococcal vaccines are next. Those are ***devastating*** to enclosed groups of people
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joelupi Apr 21, 2026 +203
I was at BCT at FLW back in spring of 2011 and we had someone test positive for meningitis. Command went nuts and we scrubbed down every single surface of the barracks with bleach. Twice. Floor to ceiling, every single crack, crevice, and surface. You could smell the bleach outside. Then someone else tested positive and we had to do this again. We had to leave every window open all day to air it out otherwise our eyes would burn. It was worse than the gas chamber. I cannot imagine doing this on a warship or finding a way to do this when deployed.
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Ok_Faithlessness8375 Apr 22, 2026 +94
Oh dude, they won’t. They will just say it’s a false negative, keep it internal, and when everyone gets horribly ill, they will blame it on the E-2 “lack of person hygiene standard” and retroactively admin separate half the so they can’t get service connected. Duh.
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myyrkezaan Apr 21, 2026 +334
It is believed to have originated in the United States, with the first recorded cases occurring at Camp Funston in Fort Riley, Kansas. It's called the Spanish Flu because Spain was pretty much the only country covering it. The others involved in the war censored that information.
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Noof42 Apr 21, 2026 +107
More recent genetic testing suggests that the Kansas origin theory probably isn't how it happened, and that the strain may well have been around in some form for about three years before it exploded. [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6381288/](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6381288/) Oddly enough, though, the particular strain of virus itself still probably originated in the Americas, although they weren't able to tell for sure where the epidemic itself started.
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cardboardunderwear Apr 21, 2026 +8285
> Hegseth described the mandate as “overly broad” and “not rational” and the decision to drop the vaccine requirement as “seizing this moment to discard any absurd overreaching mandates that only weaken our war fighting capabilities”. Just wait until Pete sees what a flu outbreak does to his war fighting capabilities.
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KimJongFunk Apr 21, 2026 +3283
He’ll be too drunk to understand it.
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MaximumSyrup3099 Apr 21, 2026 +789
"If I can do my job three sheets to the wind and/or while puking into a bucket, so can our soldiers!"
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Separate_Flamingo_93 Apr 21, 2026 +307
Found Kash.
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No-Builder-1038 Apr 21, 2026 +97
Where was he passed out this time?
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UnquestionabIe Apr 21, 2026 +77
Passed out? I thought he was taking lessons on how to teleport from that one guy who is a FEMA official. Seriously it is the most hilarious batshit insane garbage coming from someone with a clear substance abuse problem trying to get ahead of it by claiming he was randomly teleported to Waffle House like he's Nightcrawler from X-Men
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MaximumSyrup3099 Apr 21, 2026 +28
Does Nightcrawler find himself doing surprise teleports to Waffle House or ditches too?
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stevesmele Apr 21, 2026 +10
Check out what the recently fired Labor Secretary was up to. Makes Kash look like a saint. Her husband and father are worse.
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mrdominoe Apr 21, 2026 +482
Not rational? What the everliving f*** is this drunk moron talking about?
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10000Didgeridoos Apr 21, 2026 +214
Not rational means “shit we don’t like” in maga-ese
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whiskydyc Apr 21, 2026 +42
“I don’t understand it and I’m rational”
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AngryBird-svar Apr 21, 2026 +73
Its AMAZING how these dorks still can’t get over their vax phobia. They really can’t walk back on their stance can they?
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GoodIdea321 Apr 21, 2026 +38
Science contradicts their worldview, and their view is they are right no matter what. So anything which could threaten that idea is a real threat to their psyche.
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voodoomotyl Apr 21, 2026 +28
Not "rational" to a moron. This entire administration is the ultimate example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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safari_king Apr 21, 2026 +295
The rationalization is so dumb. Somehow, requiring inoculation against the flu weakens the military.
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JayEllGii Apr 21, 2026 +168
God, he is such a pathetic, weak, tryhard little p****.
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UnquestionabIe Apr 21, 2026 +37
Expected from someone who probably spent his entire military career drunk and watching 80s action movies.
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JayEllGii Apr 21, 2026 +35
I mean, I’m keeping it real here —- Hegseth, unlike me, was physically brave enough to volunteer for the military and be in combat, something I could never do. And I have never been in a fight, don’t know how to be in one, and worry whether I’d be brave enough in a sudden moment of crisis to take physical action against a threat. And despite *all* of that, Hegseth is a figure of such palpable, overwhelming clownishness and painfully obvious male insecurity that even I have no problem calling him a p****, and I’d tell him so to his face. That’s really saying something.
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Pyromaniacal13 Apr 21, 2026 +86
Well, yeah. People get the flu vaccine, people get autism from the vaccine, people hyperfixate on trains and leave the military for a career in rail based logistics instead of becoming a truck driver like the economy demands. It's happened every single year since the flu vaccine started, haven't you noticed? /s
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flyingtrucky Apr 21, 2026 +28
Without autism the military would lose like a quarter of their tankers.
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BrannyBee Apr 21, 2026 +21
>People get the flu vaccine, people get autism from the vaccine The last thing we want are soldiers that strictly adhere to rules who thrive on schedules /s
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N0stradama5 Apr 21, 2026 +535
Our enemies can just send a bunch of blankets covered in flu germs.
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nicht_ernsthaft Apr 21, 2026 +209
Seriously though, how much would it cost Russia, China, etc to pay a few hot young women to deliberately get flu/covid/norovirus, then go make out with as many drunk sailors as they can in bars at port towns and near military bases? Put something under fake fingernails of a temp waitress and drip them in their drinks and food. What does it cost per day to run a carrier group? What is the strategic value of diminishing its readiness before a critical event?
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Kytyngurl2 Apr 21, 2026 +75
Oh god, norovirus on a navy vessel would suck so much, especially one under supplied with hygiene products
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TheArmoredKitten Apr 21, 2026 +46
Norovirus outbreak on the Ford would see the captain shot for doing anything other than seek the nearest safe harbor. They were shitting in buckets *without* a bio-terror threat. This is very bad for war-fighting capacity.
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manbeardawg Apr 21, 2026 +75
Hey, that’s our line!
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Aerodrache Apr 21, 2026 +22
Hell, forget the blankets, just send them through a school or shopping mall and it’ll be straight up War of the Worlds.
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takeahike89 Apr 21, 2026 +106
Washington mandated small pox innoculation in the army specifically to strengthen their war fighting abilities. You'd think these guys would at least look to their war heros for lessons.
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kenderson73 Apr 21, 2026 +35
That sounds a bit too woke for this admin.
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OrangeJr36 Apr 21, 2026 +108
It's very simple actually: He doesn't believe in diseases
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nicht_ernsthaft Apr 21, 2026 +24
RFK Junior told him the flu shot was woke at their last kegger and roadkill BBQ.
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skyblueerik Apr 21, 2026 +48
That's why he never washes his hands.
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liltingly Apr 21, 2026 +49
If I have to hear "war fighting" one more god damned time... For people so obsessed with how society at large chooses to label things, this seems like one of the dumbest ones to lean in on. Like, there are so many existing and sufficient words for this. A "war fighter" diminishes the role to be an adjective swap away from "cage fighter", "prize fighter" and "c*** fighter".
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ShrimpieAC Apr 21, 2026 +15
He thinks it sounds cooler. Hegseth belongs in a sandbox smashing toy tanks together and making explosion sounds with his mouth. Thats all I can see every time I hear that stupid m*********** talk.
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futureman45 Apr 21, 2026 +109
He may want to read up on the revolutionary war and understand how many soldiers died of small pox.
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Mend1cant Apr 21, 2026 +122
Literally every war before vaccines. Every single war, it was more likely that soldiers died of disease in camp than on the field.
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Strykerz3r0 Apr 21, 2026 +43
Republicans have known fear of fact checking.
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chihsuanmen Apr 21, 2026 +46
The literal solution to the problem was inoculating the Continental Army, a precursor to vaccination. Hegseth slurs about the “lethality” of “warfighters” on a regular basis and cannot get his pickled brain to understand that warfighters cannot be lethal when they’re convalescing in their barracks or medical facilities.
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Dmbender Apr 21, 2026 +95
This dumb f*** has never heard of the Spanish Flu
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Ahelex Apr 21, 2026 +60
Nah, he probably thinks only Mexicans get that, not pure-blooded American soldiers /s
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Dramatic_Security3 Apr 21, 2026 +32
And the "Spanish flu" is literally just standard influenza. It's the same virus he just stopped requiring vaccination for.
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-Altephor- Apr 21, 2026 +27
It also probably started... surprise surprise... in the US, on a military base.
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WoolooOfWallStreet Apr 21, 2026 +13
Also it killed [43,000 US Soldiers](https://www.nps.gov/articles/influenza-at-camp-sherman.htm) near the end of WWI
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samanime Apr 21, 2026 +47
Seriously. One soldier with a kindergartener at home and a whole batallion stops being fighting fit for at least a week...
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BananaPalmer Apr 21, 2026 +23
Longer than that.. aboard a ship with thousands of people? That shit is gonna bounce around for months, likely for the duration of the deployment, constantly mutating. As soon as you're over one flu, you catch its mutated offspring all over again. It will quite literally just take *one person* infected to start it off.
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JT00000000000000 Apr 21, 2026 +10
Remember the “Great War”? The one that killed less people than the Spanish flu?
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HooliganBeav Apr 21, 2026 +10
Yes, the famous laissez faire military strategy. That should work.
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fsactual Apr 21, 2026 +806
Combat readiness is woke.
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Cheese-Manipulator Apr 21, 2026 +85
Logic and reason is PC
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ShigodmuhDickard Apr 21, 2026 +7511
Guess they never learned about WW1. Idiots.
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ManWithASquareHead Apr 21, 2026 +3586
Those who don't learn history, ~~are doomed to repeat it~~ label it as woke DEI garbage that's for pansies
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Fweenci Apr 21, 2026 +849
And then repeat it. 
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Lyftaker Apr 21, 2026 +286
Well they can't read so it will be new to them.
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ArcticCelt Apr 21, 2026 +149
Those who don't learn history, are getting hired in the Trump administration. With a bonus.
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Aviri Apr 21, 2026 +1364
George Washington inoculated his troops during the f****** revolution and this moron is stopping vaccinations because of brainrotted conservatives.
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ArbitraryNPC Apr 21, 2026 +175
Damn, I'd never heard that before. Thats super interesting!
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leadrombus Apr 21, 2026 +666
George Washington enacted the [first medical mandate](https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolutionary-war.htm#:~:text=George%20Washington%20enacted%20the%20first%20medical%20mandate%20in%20American%20history.) in American history. He understood the grave threat smallpox imposed upon the Continental Army and their chances of winning the war. In a letter to the medical director of the Continental Army, Washington proclaimed: > Finding the smallpox to be spreading much and fearing that no precaution can prevent it from running thro’ the whole of our Army, **I have determined that the Troops shall be inoculated**. This Expedient may be attended with some inconveniences and some disadvantages, but yet I trust, in its consequences will have the most happy effects. Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, **for should the disorder infect the Army, in the natural way, and rage with its usual Virulence, we should have more to dread from it, than from the sword of the enemy.**
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windraver Apr 21, 2026 +146
Wow that's a cool part of history I learned today. Thanks for sharing this!
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Both-Prize-2986 Apr 21, 2026 +143
Plagues have ended many military campaigns in history.
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mr_potatoface Apr 21, 2026 +54
When I studied this a little, I was astounded by how many people would die or be otherwise unable to fight because of non-combat related things. Illness being the top, but also just plain old starvation. Then you add in infection to wounds and it just gets awful. Over 600k people died in the American Civil War and 2/3 of those deaths were due to disease/illness. More recent estimates have said that 700-850k may have died, with the same 2/3 split.
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FiveCrappedPee Apr 21, 2026 +21
It's so funny how Washington was an objectively horrible field commander, but he made little decisions like this behind the scenes,and made sure he surrounded himself with smart people (Stueben, Pulaski et al) and became a great general. History is a trip.
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Niceromancer Apr 21, 2026 +67
It wasn't exactly super clean.  He's have them mix a little blood from someone who had been infected with their own  Still better than nothing but...eww
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eronth Apr 21, 2026 +85
That should be a hint as to how bad diseases are. Willingly infecting yourself with a weaker version of a sickness to avoid the full version, knowing there's a risk of death in doing so.
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FaceDeer Apr 21, 2026 +58
It's so weird that a country where unexpectedly finding yourself in need of basic emergency health services will bring financial ruin to you and your whole family for generations is the country where *preventative* medical care has become taboo.
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eronth Apr 21, 2026 +25
Conservatives just really really want to believe that medical stuff is fake and everyone who is sick can just be tough to heal up and anyone else is just a p****... or something like that. It's a narrative that seems to change depending on the circumstances.
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nycsingletrack Apr 21, 2026 +82
Smallpox had something like a 30% mortality rate. I’d take the inoculation.
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Late-Application-47 Apr 21, 2026 +20
Wow. That was 20 years before it was discovered that exposure to cowpox was an effective innoculation.
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gonzo_gat0r Apr 21, 2026 +89
These people wax on about the founding fathers but don’t know anything beyond repeating 1776 and “We the people”
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popejupiter Apr 21, 2026 +29
Also that they were Christians, and therefore this is a Christian nation. Even though their relationship with the church was... Complicated, to say the least. Yes they were Christian, and yes they went to church, but it wasn't the basis of their identities like modern fundies.
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EmbarrassedW33B Apr 21, 2026 +18
Modern American Christianity would be baffling and disgusting to people from the 1700s. Not even the Catholic Church indulged in such absurd debauchery as a typical evangelical mega-church-mall 
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grat_is_not_nice Apr 21, 2026 +743
Yep. The "*Spanish"* flu pandemic started in the US among soldiers mustering for WWI and spread to Europe on infected troop-ships.
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UltimaCaitSith Apr 21, 2026 +242
That's also a hint on how it's going to be reported. "Troops attacked by foreign bioweapon."
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concept12345 Apr 21, 2026 +90
Spain got the label for the "Spanish" flu for doing the right thing: reporting and documenting it on the news. Smh
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firemage22 Apr 21, 2026 +22
Since everyone else was covering it up to avoid showing weakness to the otherside
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ThaddeusJP Apr 21, 2026 +17
45000 troops died via the flu
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xCyn1cal0wlx Apr 21, 2026 +76
They did, they just don't care. For this administration, winning culture wars matter more than lives.
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MaximumConcept25 Apr 21, 2026 +33
The largest cause of death of militaries across history has always been disease, sickness, and infection. This only changed in recent history due to mass vaccination.
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bp92009 Apr 21, 2026 +65
Why *should* they? They don't care about history or actual performance. They do not fear any legal repercussions for any of their decisions, hiding behind "Absolute Immunity" when the consequences happen. They act like they can wish reality into being, and will force actually sane people into sacrificing systems that were built over literal *hundreds of years* to try and force their wishes into reality. When it fails, they bail, and avoid all accountability.
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cstough Apr 21, 2026 +12025
Hahahaha what could possibly go wrong when you've got hundreds of people crammed onto an aircraft carrier together for 7 months?
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TheLoneTomatoe Apr 21, 2026 +2992
Not to be pedantic, just pointing out it’s even worse, theres around 5k people on a carrier..
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punkasstubabitch Apr 21, 2026 +801
Imagine a situation like the Gerald Ford with the toilets and plumbing
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timesuck897 Apr 21, 2026 +272
Worse, gastro on the Gerald Ford.
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obliviousofobvious Apr 21, 2026 +203
Even worse...submarine gets hit with noro...
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thisusedyet Apr 21, 2026 +71
What are the torpedo tubes if not one giant toilet?
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Techn028 Apr 21, 2026 +117
I love forgetting lessons learned from ~~WWI~~ the age of sail
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Equivalent-Resort-63 Apr 21, 2026 +64
Yearning for the days of scurvy.
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PortHammer Apr 21, 2026 +40
Navy is going to get issued rum rations again with Kegseth in charge.
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suicide_nooch Apr 21, 2026 +29
I remember when my entire platoon got dysentery in Iraq. At least we were on dry land, in the desert, and could drop trousers to spray out of both ends at the same time whenever we wanted.
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inosinateVR Apr 21, 2026 +127
5k flu carriers on a carrier
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TheLoneTomatoe Apr 21, 2026 +102
How many flu carriers could a carrier carry if a carrier carried flu carriers?
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alezial Apr 21, 2026 +32
I get the reference but… oh the carriers do carry carriers and the answer is all of them. I was on board an LHD (mini carrier) for Covid and there was no amount of cleaning we could that made anything much better. Entire work centers would get sick, get better eventually, then all get sick again.
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cbowers Apr 21, 2026 +20
Because it’s less about the surface cleaning and more about the air/HVAC config. At the family level we had covid in the house twice (and even in an all day car trip once), and no other infections resulted in others present. Where-as those who brought it home, got it from home and office spaces with poorly managed HVAC. At 1000-2000 ppm CO2 a noticeable chunk of every breath has recently been in someone else’s lungs. Rebreathed fraction approx = C indoor - C outdoor / C exhaled - C outdoor
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Cynical_Classicist Apr 21, 2026 +16
It just gets worse and worse!
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Throwawaylikeme90 Apr 21, 2026 +10
…that’s the winter population of my old hometown when all the rich people leave. That’s actually insane, I knew carriers were huge but I for some reason underestimated the scale of how many people they can carry. 
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warrant2k Apr 21, 2026 +543
Remember in 2020 when COVID got so bad on USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT the ship was ordered to Guam? Initially the affected crew members were removed but it kept spreading and the CO wanted to most of the crew removed from the ship. An entire aircraft carrier was basically out of service because of rampant covid. Doesn't sound battle ready at all.
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lostatsea_again Apr 21, 2026 +103
The captain/admiral on that incident wrote a fairly decent book. I came across it because he’s a surfer and talks about surfing in his book. 
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NotPromKing Apr 21, 2026 +69
I'm amused at the idea of an captain/admiral being a surfer. I know they're people just like the rest of us with hobbies and interests, but still, to my simpleton mind it's amusing.
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lostatsea_again Apr 21, 2026 +57
Lots of navy people come from California as it’s a huge military state. Then many of them are posted in Oahu when they’re new in their career. So lots of opportunities for military folk to pick up surfing.  In 2023, Crozier wrote a memoir, Surf When You Can: Lessons in Life, Loyalty, and Leadership from a Maverick Navy Captain, in which he describes how surfing has helped him balance his life. He told Joe Garofoli of the San Francisco Chronicle: "The more time I've spent with family, friends—things outside of work—the better I could focus and the better I could perform at work."[51][50]
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inosinateVR Apr 21, 2026 +311
>The US army developed the first flu vaccine at the start of the second world war due to concern of a repeat of the influenza outbreak of 1918 and its effect on military readiness and combat capabilities. Soldiers served as large-scale test subjects for the program at the University of Michigan. Its first widespread use was licensed for the military in 1945 and later for civilians. The irony. But it’s fine, I’m sure Pete Hegseth knows better than those guys who literally invented the vaccine in order to make our military more effective…
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hexcraft-nikk Apr 21, 2026 +48
That's what kills me about all the anti-science stuff lol. The country started almost everything, from medical advances to the technology that gave us the Internet, because of the military and capitalist apparatus that our government is an extension of lol. We're rolling back stuff that directly benefitted our imperialism because of "woke" and the overall culture war. America really is eating itself alive.
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tabrizzi Apr 21, 2026 +2293
If they all pray regularly, they should be fine. /s
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hifidad Apr 21, 2026 +685
Pulp fiction verses make you immune to the flu
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Ordinary-Leading7405 Apr 21, 2026 +150
Especially when you are beset on all sides by the virulent
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johnnyrollerball69 Apr 21, 2026 +91
And I will strike down upon thee with great body aches and furious incontinence those who attempt to countermine my psychobabble!!!
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Sumthin-Sumthin44692 Apr 21, 2026 +91
That famously worked well for hundreds of years. As we all know there weren’t any cases of mass deaths due flu or plagues before 2020. /s Seriously, these people are all foreign agents, right? They must be *trying* to hurt our military and ability to defend ourselves, right?
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magikarp2122 Apr 21, 2026 +18
There’s a reason Agent Orange suck Putin’s balls.
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RomulusAndThe3Makane Apr 21, 2026 +55
They are their brothers flu keeper
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PaddyMcGeezus Apr 21, 2026 +51
I remember basic training with 60 guys in bunk beds and giant dirty metal fans at each end spreading everyone's sneezes and coughs to the whole room. Germs were bad enough with that and vaccines.
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driftingfornow Apr 21, 2026 +139
Former Navy here: unhinged decision lol literally unhinged  Once one person got gastroenteritis. By the end of the day people were puking while driving the boat and shitting their pants navigating. 
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ijustsailedaway Apr 21, 2026 +119
This is how I know things are completely off the rails. This is not a political decision. This is really f****** terrible management. Having a military force possibly succumb to a preventable illness is absolutely bonkers.
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tempest_87 Apr 21, 2026 +80
It is a political decision. Because people decided that common sense and scientific fact was a political topic where their opinions matter just as much (if not more) than reality. *Everything* is politics because it only takes one side, one person, to make anything "political".
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Eccohawk Apr 21, 2026 +26
Is liking supposed to say puking?
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arealuser100notfake Apr 21, 2026 +10
That makes sense. I thought leaking!
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deletetemptemp Apr 21, 2026 +337
I truly believe Russia and chine infiltrated the US and is bit by bit taking us apart
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descendingangel87 Apr 21, 2026 +354
Nah, this is just anti intellectualism and has been a growing issue since the 80s and 90s.
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55tarabelle Apr 21, 2026 +65
Everytime I hear since the 80s, I see Reagan and the beginning of the downturn of everything good in the US. He was the start.
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Zombie_Cool Apr 21, 2026 +202
Im sure its both. Russia and China didnt create the dark undercurrents of our culture, they're just exploiting it for all its worth.
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pantstoaknifefight2 Apr 21, 2026 +72
Russia created bot farms that infiltrated shit like Moms Against Vaccines, which in turn pushed for Trump over Clinton in the run up to the 2016 election. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/health/russia-trolls-vaccine-debate-study
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Gekokapowco Apr 21, 2026 +27
they're absolutely utilizing social media and existing groups to undermine our stability but we really gotta ask ourselves why a "Moms Against Vaccines" group is allowed to exist in the first place, and where it came from.
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mwbbrown Apr 21, 2026 +72
Exactly, they didn't make this guy stupid, they helped elevate the stupid.
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Kaylend Apr 21, 2026 +22
We don't need foreign entities to destroy America, we have oligarchs at home.
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dj_spanmaster Apr 21, 2026 +33
The anti-intellectualism isn't just a natural occurrence. It's at least partially if not completely a product of misinformation and other intelligence operations. We could have prevented it, and did not, because Our Freedumbs.
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OuijaWalker Apr 21, 2026 +36
Trump is so far in Putin's pocket that Trump can smell his balls.
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DarklySalted Apr 21, 2026 +54
Osama Bin Laden won the war on terror.
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EaterOfFood Apr 21, 2026 +9
It was never a fair fight
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Saneless Apr 21, 2026 +14
Well, they get sick. And because you're a p**** to Heggsy if you don't keep at it while sick, some may die of myocarditis because that's caused often by viruses and is why you should take it easy when sick
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Eccohawk Apr 21, 2026 +11
On the subs they -SHARE- beds.
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quats555 Apr 21, 2026 +9
Eugenics, except they all believe they are “the strong ones” who will survive while “the weak” die.
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Mean_Neighborhood462 Apr 21, 2026 +16
It’s not “survival of the strongest,” it’s “survival of the fittest.” And by “fittest” Darwin meant the best suited to survive the prevailing conditions. The “fittest” during flu season are those who are inclined to get the shot. I’d say let the antivaxxers wipe themselves out, but they’re going to take far too many sensible people out in the process.
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Imaginary_Green8409 Apr 21, 2026 +2054
Not sure we can survive 3 more long, miserable and ignorant years with this administration.
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nemisis714 Apr 21, 2026 +799
This past year has been the longest in recent memory.
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bigloser42 Apr 21, 2026 +314
The last year has been the longest decade of my life.
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cmm239 Apr 21, 2026 +128
A decade of my life has been dominated by Trump and it will be another several decades before we recover, if it’s even possible.
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AncientSith Apr 21, 2026 +77
Even after this f***** is in the grave, we still have to hear his name. So sick of it.
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cmm239 Apr 21, 2026 +40
I’m starting to believe he will never kick the bucket. We will never recover from him. All our lives have been made permanently more difficult because of Trump and the republicans.
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awmaleg Apr 21, 2026 +72
“Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” - we just got on the Interstate, kids
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been2thehi4 Apr 21, 2026 +63
F****** hell I realized it’s only been a year with this bullshit.
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IPissExcellentThrows Apr 21, 2026 +45
A year and 3 months. Don't try and put 3 more months of evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
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TeBp242 Apr 21, 2026 +21
It’s only been a year??
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Abramshunter Apr 21, 2026 +984
Can't wait to see an entire US military unit rendered combat ineffective due to illness from a literal coughing baby (which was entirely preventable).
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ManWithASquareHead Apr 21, 2026 +290
1918 pandemic likely started amongst the troops.... Just saying
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Beautiful-Station143 Apr 21, 2026 +96
Thanks for reminding that we are also going get the Pandemic 2.0 from this administration starting WWWlll.
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Awesome_Leaf Apr 21, 2026 +45
in the "coughing baby vs nuclear bomb" fight, i was not expecting the baby to win
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CRAkraken Apr 21, 2026 +679
Nothing like a battalion made combat ineffective because of the flu.
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Dandan0005 Apr 21, 2026 +187
A little history lesson: George Washington enforced the first mandatory inoculation against smallpox among his troops during the revolutionary war, and it’s widely accepted that the Continental Army would have lost the war without that decision.
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bbcversus Apr 21, 2026 +60
That was so woke! / s
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The_Flurr Apr 21, 2026 +213
It's not like disease outbreak has ever brought a military to its knees before.
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hollsberry Apr 21, 2026 +58
Fun fact: disease was the #1 killer during the American civil war. Approx 2/3 of deaths were caused by disease
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No-Score9153 Apr 21, 2026 +49
Its actually true for most of the campaigns in history before WW1 Historically war is 95% marching and foraging and 5% battle. Exhausted/tired people drinking whatever they can find fall sick easily and in military camps the disease then spreads like wildfire.
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Gekokapowco Apr 21, 2026 +18
our amazing revolution of military techology, putting us miles ahead of our peers, was our capacity to get standardized quality food and supplies to our frontlines anywhere in the world, it's said the US Military is the greatest logistics program in human history. We remove that, we tumble behind all of the countries that have copied us. We have multimillion dollar carriers with the latest tech and weapons that nobody can use effectively because they're starving and sick. Frankly, its quite American now that I think about it.
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OkFineIllUseTheApp Apr 21, 2026 +34
He's definitely one of those "Suck it up, you're a man, act like it" types. He will demand soldiers near delirious from fever be transferred to active combat *specifically* to toughen them up.
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Ronho Apr 21, 2026 +30
Its not as though Kegsbreath ever had to know anything about combat effectiveness
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Fluffy_Brilliant_718 Apr 21, 2026 +52
So glad we're fighting the real issues here in America. /s
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Pyromaniacal13 Apr 21, 2026 +13
Imagine a flu outbreak on a ballistic missile sub because Seamen Apprentice Johnny Trump Supporter brought the flu on board.
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ganymede_boy Apr 21, 2026 +386
Because big, tough manly-men like Hegseth can fend off viruses with their bulging biceps!
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Callabrantus Apr 21, 2026 +96
"Real men don't get the flu! ALPHA!! Get on my level!"
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Lord_Heckle Apr 21, 2026 +23
Whiskey kills germs, duh!
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hkohne Apr 21, 2026 +31
I totally read that in Colin Jost's voice
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RipErRiley Apr 21, 2026 +153
What medical basis did he cite other than bitterness over Republicans having their bad Covid takes debunked by science and reality (like all of their other stances honestly)?
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jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn Apr 21, 2026 +45
The point is to cull the herd of the sickly and elderly. They want people to die. There's no other reason to do this ...and cut cancer research funding ...and cut off medical care funding ...and hire goons to shoot people in the streets ...and bomb Iran
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korben2600 Apr 21, 2026 +18
“The best alternative to genociding the undesirables is permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies.” --[Curtis Yarvin](https://theplotagainstamerica.com/#yarvin)
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badwords Apr 21, 2026 +75
I remember when they fired a captain of a carrier because he refused to deploy with have his ship with covid. His troops cheered his name as he walked off his ship.
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amateur_mistake Apr 22, 2026 +10
Wonder who the president was then. Probably shouldn't reelect him.
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GuinnessGlutton Apr 21, 2026 +116
Clowns running the circus. So embarrassing.
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imaconnect4guy Apr 21, 2026 +210
George Washington instituted a mandatory vaccine program in 1777. The military has literally regressed 250 years with this idiocy.
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thisusedyet Apr 21, 2026 +54
It's how he's celebrating the 250th anniversary
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rbrgr83 Apr 21, 2026 +14
But Palantir is over here dog-whistling that other 'cultures' are mid and are *regressive* in nature. B****, I see 1 country on this planet that's leading the f****** pack on regression right now.
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Kale_Earnhart Apr 21, 2026 +41
Owning the libs by getting the flu.
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yhwhx Apr 21, 2026 +24
...and spreading it all over the barracks, aircraft carrier, or submarine.
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Actual_Noodle Apr 21, 2026 +39
So they’ve been required to get a flu shot every year? Cool, so clearly there isn’t any issue with taking that vaccine if we’ve done it for f****** decades. If there was any truth to the whole “weakens our fighting capabilities” this would have happened long ago lol. Trump and kegsbreath aren’t the first people in power to go “we need to strengthen our military!!1!” If anything we should cut their v*****, what are soldiers doing rock hard on the battlefield? It could be drawing away their focus from the enemy /s
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KLGChaos Apr 21, 2026 +193
They really are doing everything they can to destroy the US from the inside.
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Ok_Replacement4702 Apr 21, 2026 +124
It's almost like a Russian plant is in office Oh wait
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Just__Az__Nice Apr 21, 2026 +51
So we have given up on military readiness… nice
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EggNo289 Apr 21, 2026 +29
Fun Fact: On average 35,000 Americans die from the flu EVERY YEAR.
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Bearded_Guardian Apr 21, 2026 +122
The smart ones will get it anyway
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baseketball Apr 21, 2026 +197
Yes, but the flu vaccine, like all vaccines, isn't 100% effective. If you're going to be in close quarters, you want 100% compliance to reduce the chances for everyone which is why vaccinations have always been mandatory.
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ManWithASquareHead Apr 21, 2026 +42
I don't think germ theory and herd theory are this administration's forte...
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NicolasCemetery Apr 21, 2026 +19
Which means the smart ones will be working extra hours to make up for the mission failure due to the dumb ones being out sick.
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DayleD Apr 21, 2026 +49
To anyone who thinks our fit troops won't be affected, the Spanish Flu killed the healthy with their own immune systems. A cytokine storm. 'Survival of the fittest' is neutral as to what counts as fitness.
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ARGENTAVIS9000 Apr 21, 2026 +24
russian propaganda spread anti-vaccine conspiracy theories that are now influencing our armed forces. nice.
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TheCzar11 Apr 21, 2026 +41
Russia pushed the anti vax stuff for decades. MAGA comes along and falls for it.
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mindguru88 Apr 21, 2026 +18
We all need to ask ourselves, "what would a foreign agent tasked with weakening the US do in this situation?" We then need to ask, "why the f*** is that what our government is doing?"
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sylbug Apr 21, 2026 +39
Flu outbreaks on warships are gonna suck. Ah well, I’m sure it will toughen up some war fighters, of some shit.
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perpetual_student Apr 21, 2026 +14
Controlling the spread of disease has been a central tenet of war-fighting since the beginning of recorded history. F****** moron.
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drumrhyno Apr 21, 2026 +11
It's almost like the people leading the "Department of War" haven't actually done any research on how wars are won/lost. Hey Pete, I'll give you a hint, infectious disease is almost ALWAYS a major contributing factor.
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hairy_quadruped Apr 22, 2026 +12
Fun fact: the “Spanish Flu” of 1918 that killed between 20-50 million people possibly originated in the US and was definitely carried to the UK and Europe by US troops during WW1.
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theghostlore Apr 21, 2026 +23
Spanish flu killed more soldiers than many wars combined.
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RheimsNZ Apr 22, 2026 +12
Incredible. The weakening of the US through their own ridiculous ideologies is just incredible. It's the era of the "self own" for them and I know that but I'm STILL continuously surprised
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JuniperJupiter4 Apr 21, 2026 +11
Ahh barracks and the flu. A classic combination.
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NotGordan Apr 21, 2026 +10
USA sends missiles Enemy Countries send in one sick POW
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shawn_overlord Apr 22, 2026 +10
News in 6 months: US Military stricken by mystery illness forces operations to halt
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CapitalPunBanking Apr 21, 2026 +34
Nobody hates the troops more than Republicans.
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jarena009 Apr 21, 2026 +21
Virus prevention is woke. Getting debilitating viruses is manly. s/ (obviously)
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