Here we go again. Should we expect a late night Sunday Truth Social to try to manipulate the markets?
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JarJarBingChilling1 day ago
+149
Does the bear shit in the woods?
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DieHardAmerican951 day ago
+48
Is a frog’s ass watertight?
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JarJarBingChilling1 day ago
+16
It is not. Don’t ask me how I know.
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Antique_Remote_55361 day ago
+4
Ok well now we have to ask you how you know
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JarJarBingChilling1 day ago
+3
I don’t know, I am spreading misinformation. If I happened to be right it’s just a coincidence
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trippknightly1 day ago
+10
I had never PONDered this before.
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level1hero1 day ago
+1
That’s because you’re not from Poland. They’re all a tadpole-ish over there
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AppearanceDizzy70061 day ago
+3
Does Trump enjoy TACOs?
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DieHardAmerican951 day ago
+1
It sure seems that way.
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RandoDude1241 day ago
+7
Is the pope Catholic?
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Why_No_Doughnuts1 day ago
+6
Is the space pope reptilian?
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RaHarmakis1 day ago
+3
No the Space Pope is currently an Avian Species. She got elected cause Wings are all the rage in deeps space right now.
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Fallouttgrrl1 day ago
+1
This person Stellarises
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PlainJaneGum21 hr ago
+2
Does the pope shit in the woods?
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karsh361 day ago
+2
Otherwise bears are going to have a great day on Monday 😂
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rubbarz1 day ago
+8
What's Polymarket say about the Melania/Epstein subplot?
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EquivalentOne2411 day ago
+5
Do we need a truth social post when everyone already knows the outcome of the talks?
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Xollector1 day ago
+18
Yes we do, especially when it will be like :
“The talks with Iran are going very well even though we didn’t reach agreement this time. We will be continuing it in 2 weeks as there were many many points to discuss. They are going to be opening up the Strait of Hormuz ( OR ELSE!) and they WILL NOT develop nuclear weapons which makes a much safer world!
China we are watching you you better not be sending them weapons or TARIFFS! I have great relationship with president Xi, he is a good friend since the Qin dynasty. Looking forward to meeting him in May, after we finish this off with a big WIN for AMERICA! And oil will drop like eggs soon! Praise be to Allah!
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP”
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Lanky_Milk85101 day ago
+8
Followed the next day by: “THESE CRAZY IDIOTS CANT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH AND WANT TO NEGOTIATE WITH ROCKS SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO BOMB THEM UNTIL THEY CAN FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN COMMUNICATE. PRAISE BE ALLAH DONALD J TRUMP”
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Account_no_621 day ago
+3
You forgot THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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rabbid_prof1 day ago
+2
This is already pre scheduled to post
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iWish_is_taken1 day ago
+1
I’m hoping so! Sold high on Friday and planning on buying the same stock back on Monday as it tanks. Worked out well last week.
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rng721 day ago
+1
Probably not he's at the UFC fight and might be too busy 🙄
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MessMaximum54931 day ago
+1
I expect a post on blowing up bridges and powerplants anytime now
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musiccman20201 day ago
+1
"We said they didn't even wear a suit, the iranians just walked out. Such uncooperative assholes "
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Little-Chemical50061 day ago
+75
Part text
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ISLAMABAD, April 12 (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Sunday that his negotiating team was leaving Pakistan after not reaching a deal with Iran after 21 hours of negotiations.
Vance cited shortcomings in the talks and said Iran had chosen not to accept American terms, including to not build nuclear weapons.
"The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement, and I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America," Vance said. "So we go back to the United States having not come to an agreement. We've made very clear what our red lines are."
Vance said he talked with U.S. President Donald Trump half a dozen times during the talks.
...
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PrestondeTipp1 day ago
-3
Neither side wants to agree to the others terms
Meanwhile the US sends two destroyers through the strait unmolested.
Iran threatened them but did nothing, suggesting they don't have as much leverage as they bluffed.
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Taliesin58991 day ago
+119
They never pretended to have the ability to control all traffic. All they have to do is blow up one ship out a thousand to make shipments transiting uninsurable.
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luc_que_te_passa1 day ago
+54
Did we forgot that all of this begun when the US bombed Iran in the middle of negotiations?
Sending two destroyers through the strait, again in the middle of the negotiation, is a provocation. I would guess, that Trump try to bait the Iran military to make some kind of a statement. But they let it slide, because if they would act on it, the US would have a powerful argument to initiate/resume attacks to them.
On the other hand, Iran purpose is to disrupt the oil market, so they aim is to destabilise the fuel market. So the two destroyers don’t matter for the plan. And the US didn’t get anything out of the two warships crossing the strait. The ships are now in the Persian Gulf without an exit strategy, so helpless.
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Cocosito1 day ago
+2
Since when has this administration cared about *casus belli* lol
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TracingRobots1 day ago
+15
I don't see it that way. Iran doesn't want to escalate. Any country with missiles that Iran has could have damaged those ships.
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hootblah14191 day ago
+27
Two ships went through the straight and turned right back out.. they are not minesweepers, they did not e***** any ships.. it's not a win for the united states either.
a win for the U.S. in this case would be the USA navy freely operating in the gulf which it has no ships in the gulf currently and commerce would be flowing which it is not.
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Scriefers1 day ago
-10
2 American destroyers (costing about $2B each) freely entered and exited the the Persian Gulf through the strait. You don't sweep mines with destroyers and you don't risk those assets without knowing Iran's true capabilities/intentions. America was sending a message, and called Iran's bluff.
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superseven271 day ago
+22
Why should it be a bluff? Iran will attack just a few tankers that cannot defend itself and that will lead to no other tankers trying to cross the strait
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Ohdake1 day ago
+1
If it had happened during active conflict or even at the time of kind of a simmering conflict, maybe. However, that is not so during the negotiations when neither side is supposed to be antagonizing the other side.
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Apprehensive-War74831 day ago
+8
If you were Iran would you attack these ships or antagonize them during negotiations?
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Happyplace_s1 day ago
+10
Bad take. They don’t have to disable every ship that passes. Just 1-2 would do what they want. Plus, if they did it while negotiations were still on…well that would just be really stupid.
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krazybanana1 day ago
+2
They didn't harm the ships because they've agreed to a ceasefire for now genius
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PapaTahm1 day ago
+1
>Meanwhile the US sends two destroyers through the strait unmolested.
Iran threatened them but did nothing, suggesting they don't have as much leverage as they bluffed.
**Iran definitely can sink those and whoever think it doesn't have no idea why Drones Launchers are problematic.**
The reason it did not, is because U.S sent those as a way to antagonize Iran during negotiation, so that it would try to change public the perception of the war in case Iran attacked, "Iran does not have good faith".
Iran would not throw a card it has over U.S and Israel just for nothing, they are not dumb they have been preparing for this for over 40 years.
Also they don't need to sink every ship,
Just the threat of the capability of sinking ships makes Insurance companies not allow ships go across.
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Prestigious_Yak85511 day ago
-5
Finally I can agree with Vance on something. This is very bad news for the USA.
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MendicantBias061 day ago
+1
Where in that statement did you read that? Poor comprehension?
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Fallouttgrrl1 day ago
-3
They are *literally* quoting Vance from the part of the article posted
A continued war in Iran is bad for everyone
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MendicantBias061 day ago
-3
Show the quote. They are *literally* not quoting shit lol.
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Warpey1 day ago
+1
Second paragraph of the parent comment: “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement”
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Fallouttgrrl1 day ago
+1
"The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement, and I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's *bad news for the United States of America*," Vance said
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Tigerbutton8311 day ago
Buddy, the quote is right there in the article
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Prestigious_Yak85511 day ago
This is getting ridiculous. I agreed with JD Vance when he said this was very bad news for the USA. I did not quote him. When people quote, they use inverted commas. For example: "Hello, I am JD Vance. I wear eyeliner and f*** couches". - JD Vance. See how that works?
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pat_the_catdad1 day ago
+69
Iran: “JD, if you call Donald *right now* and he answers the phone while at UFC — we have a deal.”
Vance: 😐
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spacemanspiff19791 day ago
+37
Shocker 🙄
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GingerSnapSurprise1 day ago
+50
Vance is out faster than the last time he walked into an Ashley's Home Furniture Store.
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AslanPahar1 day ago
+5
Pakistan has couches made of hard fabric, wasn't comfortable for JD.
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Inevitable_Butthole1 day ago
+31
Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz"
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We are giving them more time."
Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end."
Mar 25: "We are still negotiating."
Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time."
Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well"
Mar 28: "War will be over soon"
Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont"
Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells"
Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK."
April 1: "Iran wants a ceasefire" / "Strongly considering pulling out of NATO" / "There's no deal with Iran"
April 3:"We can take their oil and make a fortune"
April 5:"Open the fuckin strait you crazy bastards or youll be living in hell"
April 6:"US could charge for strait of hormuz passage"
April 7:"A whole civilization will die tonight"
April 8:"Iran accepts ceasefire, the strait is opened" *strait closed*
April 9:"NATO allies have days to reopen the strait"
April 10:"Iran has no cards"
April 11:"We're going to open up the strait"
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UhhhhmmmmNo1 day ago
+13
You forgot “praise be Allah”
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bkfountain1 day ago
+31
Duh, the US has no leverage.
Iran wasn’t closing the Strait of Hormuz before this war and agreed to a nuclear deal years ago with Obama. Iran has only been emboldened by all this and actually invading them with a large force to dig out the regime would be very unpopular in the US.
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rnicoll1 day ago
+4
I think it's more the US has no credibility. Trump has demonstrated he'll tear up any agreement whenever he feels like it, so Iran isn't going to take their word on things.
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PretendFly84911 day ago
+20
So, JD Emo, Jared, and the real estate guy. Real Dream Team there.
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AK_Panda1 day ago
+10
"They aren't sending their best"
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Chrono_Convoy1 day ago
+40
Did 🍊forget to bring his FIFA Peace Prize?
What gives?
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kation12341 day ago
+10
PEACE Of Shit Prize.
Was then, much more so now.
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Manaze851 day ago
+7
“Art of the Deal”
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TriXter691 day ago
+26
Looks like bombs will start flying soon :/
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tri1703911 day ago
+7
Get some TACOs also.
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number39utopia1 day ago
+1
Ground beef or shredded?
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UrBoySergio1 day ago
+1
To shreds, you say?
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imanchats1 day ago
+2
To Israel’s delight.
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NevyTheChemist1 day ago
+1
To bomb what? Everything was obliterated already.
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HelloYesItsMeYourMom1 day ago
+4
Energy facilities, transportation infrastructure. If that doesn’t work economic infrastructure like factories.
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Foooour1 day ago
+2
So what the f*** was Trump threatening to do last week then?
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[deleted]1 day ago
+1
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Lovv1 day ago
+1
The ceasefire was violsted by both parties.
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XX_AppleSauce1 day ago
+6
I did not expect any other outcome. Actually, I thought it might be a worse outcome, like Iran swearing to fight for 1000 years or something.
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AK_Panda1 day ago
+5
>like Iran swearing to fight for 1000 years or something.
that parts implicit lmao.
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Puzzled-One-17591 day ago
+12
If Trump is such a great negotiator why doesn’t he go and do the negotiating?
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0111010121011 day ago
+5
Too busy watching UFC
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AdLiving87081 day ago
+9
Did jd or whatever he’s calling himself these days day thank you
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DieHardAmerican951 day ago
+11
JD Vance couldn’t negotiate buying a dozen doughnuts, so nothing about this surprises me.
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LincolnHighwater1 day ago
+2
"What will you give us to open the strait?"
"Whatever makes sense."
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Vaglame1 day ago
+10
What is going to happen now?
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rubywpnmaster1 day ago
+16
More bombing. If you look at it from Trumps perspective it makes sense. Iran is in a position to keep global oil supplies restricted and high.
If he’s going to “lose” either way he may as well inflict maximum pain.
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throwthisTFaway011 day ago
+8
Next play by play. We are going to start targeting critical infrastructure claiming it’s dual use is justification.
Iran adds another strait to their Infinity Ring gauntlet (Bab-el-Mandeb). USA becomes even more fucked as volatility increases.
Trump won’t survive until November if we’re at $8 gas and eggs reach labubu prices. Both IRGC and Trump knows this.
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EgoTripWire1 day ago
+7
Dow goes up still for some f****** reason.
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InsertWittySaying1 day ago
+9
Well, they tried for almost a whole day.
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MAVERICK9101 day ago
+52
The US sent JD Vance and two real estate agents to negotiate with career diplomats who have been studying/waiting over 40 years for such a negotiation.
Who looks more worried?
The Iranians are gonna make Trump pay, they have no current incentive to reopen the strait.
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Ritaredditonce1 day ago
+15
If only Jared read 25 books on peace negotiations.
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Pharazonian1 day ago
+5
did they even try?
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Tsakax1 day ago
+9
I bet they left with a nice Pakistani leather couch though.
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XX_AppleSauce1 day ago
+2
Just don’t look at the tags.
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TracingRobots1 day ago
+13
The US thinks they are the ones with the leverage. This is the problem.
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too-left-feet1 day ago
+7
I can’t think of one single thing that is better for the US as a result of this war. We have increased energy costs, increased our deficit, depleted our armaments, lost the ability to conduct free trade in the Straight, lost the faith and backing of our allies, and stagnated ( at best) financial markets. A complete cluster and no good path to recover from.
Trump really should be blaming himself, but he’s trump so he could start by stop listening to Netanyahu, stop listening to Lindsey Graham, firing Pete Hegseth, and relegating J.D. to menial tasks. Someone needs to be on the chopping block, it’s too big of a screw up to sweep under the table.
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Waiwirinao1 day ago
+1
Until this trully causes hardships to MAGA America then nothing will change.
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34710x21 day ago
+3
Someone who can see the future, what happens next??
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cmackchase1 day ago
+5
Option 1: The US fucks around a bit, gets bored, and leaves. Israel continues to bomb Lebanon.
Option 2: Trump and Hegseth get riled up by those AI videos and just bombs the absolute piss out of Iran as Israel bombs Lebanon.
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poppop7020251 day ago
+3
No surprise here
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Leading-Score95471 day ago
+3
Meanwhile Donny is in Miami watching ufc
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fullofspiders1 day ago
+3
Hmm, that was even faster than I expected. I guess that's what counts as government efficiency these days.
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Oldiebones1 day ago
+3
Wow I’m so surprised that the elite diplomatic team of JD “couch humper” Vance and Saudi-bribed Jared Kushner failed.
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ForsakenRacism1 day ago
+3
We gave it the ole 1 day try
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hrfloatnstuff1 day ago
+3
They’re not leaving forever, just long enough to make a bunch of money in the oil futures market - BRB!
You see kids, you can make money on the good news *and* the bad news - especially if you are the ones making the news.
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bad_kiwi20201 day ago
+3
"We tried nothing and are all out of ideas about how to resolve the conflict we started for no good reason"
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Ok-Bar6011 day ago
+3
So they negotiated for one day?
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ThePirateKing011 day ago
+3
This is crazy, I’m feeling the same way now as I did when I was 8 when we went to war with Iraq
“Wait, why are we doing this? There seems to be a lot better use for our money than this”
And yet here we go again. And it’s the Republican’s fault…again. I’ll die happy to see the GOP dismantled and salt the earth they sprung from
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Windycityunicycle1 day ago
+3
So a hillbilly and two real estate developers walk into a bar….
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angrybobs1 day ago
+4
Wouldn’t call any of those guys negotiators.
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MaybeTheDoctor1 day ago
+2
I think the direction Vance got was not to agree to any deal, as that would show compromise, and Trump just made everything worse.
A better weasel solution for Trump is just to continue the ceasefire without an agreement on peace, and now he can both shout about how he won, how allies didn’t help, and how the ayatollah booth is against international law.
His base will love how he found a non-compromising solution, and the market will see stability and not crash, and the $2m toll on shipping just adds $1 to a barrel of oil, which will just be priced in.
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glumjonsnow1 day ago
+1
no, trump's play was to agree to a ceasefire that he never believed in and prepare to obliterate iran during the chaos - how is that not obvious
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vessel_for_the_soul1 day ago
+2
Be the cure to the problem you caused.
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Single-Use-Again1 day ago
+2
Who in the Kentucky fried f*** wants a peace deal? Big oil oligarchs are making billions at the moment.
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runs_with_airplanes1 day ago
+2
They should have sent Kirk Cousins’ agent
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dinggusss1 day ago
+2
“Negotiators” ha ok
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Ok-Abbreviations5431 day ago
+2
Vance better get his fat, b**** ass back to the table and get my gas prices down! What the hell else is he doing?
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jabaturd1 day ago
+2
Sources in the US are reporting ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahahahahahaha
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Wombatapus7361 day ago
+2
JD was never going to accomplish anything. Fuckin' guy can't even order donuts.
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Nooneknows8821 day ago
+2
Vance really fucked the couch on this one
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number39utopia1 day ago
+6
I had a feeling this was going to happen
there are 4 things the Islamic Republic of Iran will refuse to negotiate on as follows.
* the strait of hormuz must be under the full control of the Islamic Republic of iran.
* The Islamic Republic of Iran must be given full reparations from the U.S for accumulated war damages.
* An immediate end to attacks from the US and Israel against the Islamic Republic of Iran and it's proxies (Hezbollah, houthis, etc) as well as a guarantee they won't initiate future attacks against them.
* The Islamic Republic of Iran must be allowed to continue their enrichment of uranium for peaceful purposes (powering nuclear power plants, other nuclear activities).
Though there is some flexibility in some areas, their demands are still way too maximalist for the U.S to agree with them on. In my personal opinion, I had a feeling these talks were not going to be going anywhere and the american-iran war will continue after the ceasefire expires.
There is also the possibility that president trump decides to chicken out (TACO) again and ask for more time; the man can be an unpredictable force of nature at times as seen with the capture of maduro and the bombing of Iranian bunkers. Time will tell
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try_repeat_succeed1 day ago
+3
Also it was JD Vance. Dont know if the man has the skill set to deescalate. If escalation was what was needed he might be the man for the job...
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Federal-Piglet1 day ago
+3
I agree but Iran seems to have paying for transition through the strait as the mechanism for reparations. Knowing the US will never pay.
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_x_oOo_x_1 day ago
+2
They should be the ones paying damages to 3rd party countries who didn't attack them but they bombed them anyway, like the Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, S. Arabia, Quatar, Iraq, Azerbaijan, etc.
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Rich_Housing9711 day ago
+19
\>countries with US bases
\>3rd party
lmao
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Unlucky_Accountant711 day ago
+2
Guys I'm shocked that the regime that actively recruits 12 year olds and refuses to fight wars if not done through their proxie terrorist organization, I am just so shocked
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glumjonsnow1 day ago
+1
i believe you mean "america bad".....read the room sir. this is TDS headquarters
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HK-531 day ago
+1
I thought they were going to continue negotiating tomorrow?
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Individual_Section_61 day ago
+1
Did Vance not read the art of the deal??
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Jatobi19931 day ago
+1
Not surprising
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rdldr11 day ago
+1
What part of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED did Iran not understand???
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uberduck1 day ago
+1
Colour me surprised!
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SnooChickens15341 day ago
+1
Why didn't Trump go since hes a self proclaimer master negotiator. Bibi was probably on the phone to his two assets Kushner and Witkoff and told them to refuse a deal .
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sossigsandwich1 day ago
+1
Then keep talking?
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cdnhockeynut1 day ago
+1
But did you say “thank you”
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CampEmbarrassed1701 day ago
+1
Sad fact : Islamabad ( city of Islamabad) was once called Gandhara, the marvelous city where buddhism was peacefully spread to all parts of Asia.
No different than what the Taliban did to the Bamyan Buddhas . Destroying Cultural heritage of a place by changing its name is Peaceful religion 101.
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Shadowlance231 day ago
+1
"The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. The good news is I made bank betting against the agreement. See you all next week!"
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Low-Umpire2361 day ago
+1
Vance is inexperienced, unskilled, and ill-informed. He learns about Trump policy through public X posts.
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Niftydog116321 hr ago
+1
Not surprised at all. Dumbasses sent dropout boys to do a job.
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essaysmith20 hr ago
+1
Don't peace negotiations typically take day, weeks, or months? 21 hours and we're out seems to indicate an inserious attitude.
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WloveW1 day ago
+1
Maybe Trump himself could have gone? The great deal maker and negotiator. Wuss.
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HP8441821 day ago
-4
Anyone who thinks the US should have given up anything just to make a deal are either Iranian bots or just basic tankies
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Serious-Ebb-46691 day ago
+5
The only way out of this is to give up something- that’s why initiating it in the first place was a boneheaded move.
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killerofchicken1 day ago
Cant wait to read another post from the rapist after this
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