Same. Instant nostalgia. I don't remember for sure who made my 14.4 and 28.8k modems, but I know USR made my 56k.
14
ICIP_SNMar 24, 2026
+16
300baud gang checking in
Edit: Oh wow and there she is
Hayes Smartmodem 300 | National Museum of American History https://share.google/UpXdXSyMuGENYpiQI
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Confident-Beyond6857Mar 24, 2026
+10
Don't forget your AT commands!
10
Additional_Quiet2600Mar 24, 2026
+1
And all of the different transfer protocols.
1
Additional_Quiet2600Mar 24, 2026
+1
Had one of those too.
1
PhilpotBlevinsMar 24, 2026
+4
Probably Hayes
4
synapseattackMar 24, 2026
+7
I think this was the perfect speed for the internet. There is just too much speed for bullshit now.
7
Donny_Do_NothingMar 24, 2026
+4
Figure out what it takes for gifs and dial it back a click.
4
Lost-Wizard168Mar 24, 2026
+3
I was thinking it might be time to get out my 300 baud acoustic coupler! But then I realized I’d need to buy a landline phone. I wonder if the BT handsets shaped like the old landline handset would work with the AC? 😂
3
melgishMar 24, 2026
+1
I remember my parents being livid at the $80 phone bill that was me trying to use compuserve.
1
pcserenityMar 24, 2026
+3
Courier's. Had several. Loved them.
3
DarthShivMar 24, 2026
+1
In other words they were never relevant in the modern internet... dead well before it went big...
1
notmyredditacctMar 24, 2026
+4
i can still hear it.. or maybe that’s tinnitus
4
qlurpMar 24, 2026
+2
First modem I ever owned was a 2400 baud external from US Robotics.
Haven’t thought about that thing in decades and now I’m Googling photos of it for some reason.
2
dcdttuMar 24, 2026
+1
Blast from my past for sure!
1
bionic_cmdoMar 24, 2026
+1
I watched the BlackBerry movie last week and that company came up. Prior to that it was 20 years ago.
1
Additional_Quiet2600Mar 24, 2026
+1
I loved my USR HST 14.4k.
1
Coffee_And_BikesMar 24, 2026
+6
At last, my ancient knowledge of AT commands will once again be relevant.
6
SixrayMar 24, 2026
+3
I'm a retro tech collector.
Most US Robotics products were made in Canada LOL
3
Xiaopeng8877788Mar 24, 2026
+5
One router now only costs you $999! Tired of winning yet?
5
Voided_ChexMar 24, 2026
+1
They can compete with Hayes again!
1
snatchblastersteveMar 24, 2026
+1
Nah man, it’s the Jared Kushner Drone, Router, Golf, and Tennis Club.
1
JohnNWMar 24, 2026
+1
Haven't touched a USR modem in an age...memories unlocked
1
villageidiot33Mar 24, 2026
+1
Here’s hoping for Global Village to make the same comeback.
1
NthDegreeThoughtsMar 23, 2026
+30
Is this an old article from when Bush was president ? /s
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giantpotatoMar 24, 2026
+13
It's actually about banning routers used for woodwork
13
inconspiciousdudeMar 24, 2026
+2
The hacking of those things can get a little out of hand.
2
jefbenetMar 24, 2026
+1
Is op internet explorer in a trench coat?
1
FallouttgrrlMar 24, 2026
+1
Some say they're out there navigating the Netscape to this very day
1
DialecticEnjoyerMar 24, 2026
+4
Eh give it a month for taco time.
4
flashlightgigglesMar 24, 2026
+1
I thought TACO time was 2 weeks...or 5 minutes after markets close for the week
1
IshalltalktoyouMar 24, 2026
+1
na, it's to allow the feds to insert their own spyware/back doors into devices.
It's to spy on us.
1
DiggityDooWopMar 23, 2026
+154
They rather us use the ones they will make by some subsidiary of Palantir. It will be easier.
154
2HDFloppyDiskMar 23, 2026
+43
Be ready for Don Jr to start a new company that’ll have exclusive rights for routers.
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DiggityDooWopMar 23, 2026
+11
And made of shiny brittle plastic marketed as gold.
11
iTouch_AndroidsMar 24, 2026
+3
It'll be made in America! ...eventually, or so I've heard
3
BlumbleBee123BMar 24, 2026
+1
Even with your inability to spell, I bought in.
1
Wayward_WhinesMar 23, 2026
+303
Do we even make this stuff here? If we aren’t importing them we had better start making them pretty quick.
303
physedkaMar 23, 2026
+348
Some Trump crony will quickly spin up a company that imports the components of Chinese routers and assembles them over here with some obnoxious branding geared toward idiots like American Awesome Router. The components will still be just as compromised, but the price will be 50% higher.
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ConundrumMachineMar 23, 2026
+146
And it will send everything you do straight to Palantir at no extra charge
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sixfourtykiloMar 24, 2026
+28
Jokes on you. Your DNS server already does this.
28
whabtMar 25, 2026
+1
I mean mine doesn't but it's in my utility closet.
1
blockedcontractorMar 23, 2026
+32
Trump modems and Trump routers coming in 2027 right after the Trump phone releases.
32
10thousndreflectionsMar 24, 2026
+8
Gold plated Freedom Routers!
*eagle scream*
8
nautziMar 24, 2026
+3
Insert another Trump coin for an additional 20 minutes of wifi
3
Blackstone01Mar 24, 2026
+14
They'll also get a 100 million dollar no-bid contract a week after making their company with no obligation to actually deliver the products.
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TheWolfbytezMar 24, 2026
+1
They'll get paid $1bn NOT to make them
1
ARazorbacksMar 24, 2026
+5
American Awesome Router made me f****** laugh.
MAGA really is that stupid.
5
-TheExtraMile-Mar 24, 2026
+6
Elon’s starlink router is exempt from the ruling, so they are already on this. It’s probably mostly about collecting even more data of private citizens
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Is_that_even_a_thingMar 23, 2026
+3
For the advertising I propose the slogan, "build a wall-make them pay!" & a monster truck jumping through a ring of fire and the irony will be completely lost on them.
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Long-Emu-7870Mar 24, 2026
+1
That gives me an idea.
1
BlumbleBee123BMar 24, 2026
+1
What happened to the my pillow guy when he lost his money?
1
thenamelessone7Mar 24, 2026
+1
The chips are made by broadcom and the only thing that's left is radios, which you could easily produce in the US but no one will be assembling them in the US and still charge a reasonable price for them
1
kstargate-425Mar 24, 2026
+17
Not one is made in America at this point in time as even American companies like Cisco outsource their production. There will be exceptions made as soon as the bribes are collected though
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rubywpnmasterMar 24, 2026
+3
Only in small amounts primarily for the federal government and sensitive industries.
Netgear moved out of China for production but is still majority Asian manufacturing
3
mindgame18Mar 24, 2026
+3
Yes we do (sort of). Companies that provide similar equipment that aren’t banned I deal with every day. Closest actual manufacturing is Mexico.
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zzazzzzMar 24, 2026
+1
mexico is still foreign tho.
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mindgame18Mar 24, 2026
+1
It is, I only mean there are other sources of this equipment that aren’t banned and have no (known) foreign security issues. The list of banned equipment is honestly a “no shit, why weren’t they already banned?” List.
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NorysStorysMar 24, 2026
+5
Not trying to defend the likely corrupt reason this is being done but the US absolutely could produce most of the stuff in a router. The chips required don’t need to be anywhere near bleeding edge or particularly powerful for consumer equipment, Intel and global foundries both could produce much of this.
It could also just be an ‘assembled’ in the US situation which is just a shit way to artificially increase jobs while not really providing any value.
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fapsandnapsMar 24, 2026
+1
I'm guessing that broadband provider's routers are considered perfectly acceptable and it basically just becomes a way to force everyone into requiring the monthly subscription fee to rent a router instead of being able to purchase your own
1
Uranus_HzMar 24, 2026
+1
It’s about making sure only the US government can install the spyware.
1
FaterFakerMar 23, 2026
+63
Maybe he'll give $12B to a foreign company to stop building routers.
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snatchblastersteveMar 24, 2026
+6
But only if they agree to build an oil refinery in Texas.
6
noseshimselfMar 23, 2026
+82
"Mother, should I trust the government?"
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notmyfault_everMar 23, 2026
+26
"Mother, will they put me in the firing line (in Iran)??"
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VaguelyArtisticMar 23, 2026
+15
“Just another brick in Trump’s wall.”
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kiss_my_whatMar 24, 2026
+7
all in all, it's just another kick in the balls
7
notmyfault_everMar 23, 2026
+6
"Now there's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me, get him up against Trump's Wall"
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DumpoTheClownMar 24, 2026
+3
Tear down the wall!
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noseshimselfMar 24, 2026
+1
Probably. As long as it makes the oil flow.
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ChillZilla2077Mar 24, 2026
+3
My ballss
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Low_Pickle_112Mar 23, 2026
+69
I'd ask what routers aren't made abroad, but then I'd also have to ask if tech made in the US doesn't have some three letter agency spooks trying to spy on us. And we all know the answer to that one.
So the only thing that leaves is IPoAC systems.
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cwx149Mar 23, 2026
+28
I bet even routers "made in the usa" aren't entirely made in the US probably just final assembly or something so even this ban probably isn't full proof
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The_Bitter_BearMar 24, 2026
+14
Oh, zero chance all the parts are made domestically.
There's a few American manufacturers I work with that build and source as much as they can in the states, there are some things they just cannot get in the states and some things that they really can only get from China.
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Thoth74Mar 24, 2026
+8
>full proof
Fool proof, fyi
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cwx149Mar 24, 2026
+4
Nah I want it full of proof that there's no spy stuff
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myrevenge_IS_urkarmaMar 24, 2026
+3
Current federal definition of "manufactured in the u.s." means assembled in the u.s. This changes in October when it will mean 55% of the materials also come from the u.s.
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ItilityMSPMar 24, 2026
+5
So just add base lead plate and we are good right? right? Of course the lead is USA lead.
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MagicBoyUKMar 23, 2026
+30
Bit late for that, the ship sailed in about 2005. Amazed they took time out of trying to get Kimmel cancelled for this.
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outerproductMar 24, 2026
+24
So they're banning pretty much all routers? Almost none of that shit is made here.
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ThinInvestigator4953Mar 24, 2026
+4
Nah it only affects devices that use components from the banned list.
And all previous FCC authorizations remain.
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I-baLLMar 24, 2026
+14
No, it's a blanket ban on approval of all new consumer router models:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-420034A1.txt
The funny thing is that that says:
> Foreign-made routers were also involved in the Volt, Flax, and Salt Typhoon cyberattacks targeting vital U.S. infrastructure.
Except this administration stopped the investigations into those attacks plus this ban means that people won't be able to afford to upgrade vulnerable routers to better models (like WPA3 models and the like)
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LordChungusAmongusMar 24, 2026
+2
You could build an old-style (2006-ish) MikroTik router with entirely domestic components from top to bottom.
Nobody wants that hulking mass though.
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wyvernx02Mar 24, 2026
+10
I'd rather the Chinese have my data than Palantir at this point.
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chrispy42107Mar 24, 2026
+1
Good news , they both have all your information already 🤣. We're cooked .
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Additional_Quiet2600Mar 24, 2026
+2
Thanks DOGE.
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seethenoiseMar 24, 2026
+8
get ready for palentir spy routers.
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bitwarrior80Mar 24, 2026
+5
No doubt Xfinity will be the first in line for that.
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CharcoalGreyWolfMar 24, 2026
+8
So, Brendan Carr is doing what the previous GOP-majority FCCs said wasn’t possible; they said the FCC couldn’t make policy without Congress when Net Neutrality was something they didn’t want.
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Power_StoneMar 24, 2026
+13
Weird how suddenly everything foreign is suddenly a security risk
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wyvernx02Mar 24, 2026
+14
Meanwhile, the security risk is coming from inside the house.
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Falconman21Mar 23, 2026
+11
This is probably to raise costs of internet hardware, and drive to people to Starlink for his buddy Elon’s upcoming IPO.
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DISHYtechMar 24, 2026
+5
Starlink WiFi routers are manufactured overseas. The dishes/antennas are made in the US, but router production was shifted overseas a year or so ago.
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Falconman21Mar 24, 2026
+2
Oh I fully assumed that was the case, but he's got to funnel the business to someone.
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OuchieMuhBussyMar 23, 2026
+87
IDGAF if China spies on me because they’re in China and they can’t do anything to me. We should be way more worried about the U.S. gov’t. Also, half the time some foreign hacker gains access to our information it’s only because they piggybacked off some U.S. gov’t mandated back door.
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defroach84Mar 23, 2026
+37
The US doesn't need routers to do that. They just force ISPs to provide it.
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axonxorzMar 24, 2026
+8
But if we are being honest, doing it at the CPE level offers _much_ more granular coverage. What they have today can catch you after the fact. They want to f*** you over in real-time. Government doesn't like what you're saying? Remote deprovision. Best get back in line or we'll debank you and display our Christian Virtue™ (® 2026, Carl's Junior), by letting you starve.
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IohetMar 24, 2026
+1
They do. Just differently. They're generally more interested in corporate espionage, so your work secrets are pretty important. They don't care about your sexual proclivities or religion yet. That may change if trump sells us off
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IngsocInnerPartyMar 23, 2026
+20
Yeah, I’m so sick of using China as a scapegoat. China poses no threat to me. On the other hand, my own government…
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NJdevil202Mar 23, 2026
+21
Idk I kinda get it - does everyone remember in 2016 when the Russian government did a full-press psyop on every social media site and created fake protests, and they did this based on algorithmic activity in a (successful) effort to get Donald Trump elected.
Anyone who says "another country can't do anything to me" must be the same people who say "advertising doesn't work on me".
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cardboardunderwearMar 24, 2026
+6
And one step removed from.... "why do I care if the govt knows what I'm doing if I'm not doing anything wrong"
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The_Bitter_BearMar 24, 2026
+2
Hey now, my app dialed in to feed me propaganda assures me they are the good guys! Nothing to worry about!
Y'all, I can't think of a single government worthy of anyone's trust.
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[deleted]Mar 24, 2026
+1
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ManifestDestinysChldMar 24, 2026
+3
>If you read the article you'll see that the pentagon still has the option to use foreign made routers AND that this new policy only applies to new routers. So until companies and DOD replace their routers, they're being spied on. Nice.
To say nothing of existing equipment that automatically updates itself with new firmware. If there's no regulation of that and it's just a wide-open door, then banning the silicon itself is a joke.
It's not like the chips themselves are doing the spying, it's the 1s and 0s that are telling the chips what to do. If you ban some chips and do nothing about the silicon...I mean, that's just wanking.
This is yet another naked bribery play by the current Administration.
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SponchmanMar 23, 2026
+18
Every router is foreign made from my understanding, why wouldn't this just be a ban on Chinese companies?
Even US router makers produce their products in China.
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ccie6861Mar 24, 2026
+16
This is not a new problem or one that can be this easily fixed either. 10ish years ago, China was flooding the secondary market with counterfeit modules for Cisco routers that had trojan firmware. I still have one. They were so good looking that I suspect they were made on the same lines as the “real” ones.
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ga-coMar 24, 2026
+7
Didn’t someone take pictures of some super secret site in the US where Cisco boxes were being opened, having something modified on the boards, and being shipped out in a way you wouldn’t know the box had been tampered with?
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maybelyingMar 24, 2026
+1
>They were so good looking that I suspect they were made on the same lines as the “real” ones.
They were. I was in the industry at the time, tho this is going back more than ten years, and it was quite common for those manufacturing companies to keep the lines running and building the very same products they were contracted to build but being sold as generics. Cisco was one of the biggest targets, and was fully aware of what was going on.
Most enterprises and large companies stuck to Cisco branded gear, but a lot of small and mid-size companies would look at these generics and question why they would pay Cisco $2000 of whatever for a GBIC, when they can get an equivalent generic for $300.
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thebigeverybodyMar 24, 2026
+2
You're not the first person I've heard say this. I always thought that the bootleg products would be inferior, but then several people I trust told me the factories run 24/7, making products for the actual company during the day and making products for the knock-off market at night. That's absolutely wild.
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wyvernx02Mar 24, 2026
+1
The knock off products aren't always the same and corners are often cut. Take power tool batteries for example. The external plastic shell may be the same, but they may use cheaper battery cells or a kludged together solution instead of a proper battery management system.
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blackchameleongirlMar 24, 2026
I'm guessing this way they can make sure they have time to install a fancy backdoor before we get it. Take c***, add additional back door, sell for more.
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SirwiredMar 24, 2026
+8
A little more warning might have been nice... it's not as if you can construct a new high-volume factory for small consumer electronics quickly. Yes, there are US factories for everything, but not at this kind of volume.
Since the order only applies to new models, it just means we ain't getting any upgrades any time soon. And we are gonna be SOL when current-gen SoC's (System-on-a-Chip) reach the end of their natural product lifecycle.
(Oh, and the order also exempts routers that the Pentagon has declared an "acceptable risk"... I have a feeling the "risk" will be directly correlated with the number of trips to Mar-A-Lago the executives make.)
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oldcreakerMar 24, 2026
+4
So pretty much all routers are imported - how is this going to work? When does it start?
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New_Accountant2449Mar 24, 2026
+5
The FCC order does not impact the import or use of existing models, but will ban new ones.
The agency said a White House-convened review deemed imported routers pose "a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure."
It said malicious actors had exploited security gaps in foreign-made routers "to attack households, disrupt networks, enable espionage, and facilitate intellectual property theft," citing their role in major hacks like Volt and Salt Typhoon.
# The determination includes an exemption for routers the Pentagon deems do not pose unacceptable risks.
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inconspiciousdudeMar 24, 2026
+2
So that's what it feels like to hear a wink while reading text...
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GahugafugaMar 24, 2026
+5
Betcha the regulator just bought stock in the biggest router producer in the US.
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thegrimrangerMar 24, 2026
+4
I must have missed something recently; which inept trump spawn was gifted a board seat for a router manufacturer?
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TjbergenMar 23, 2026
+7
Thr NSA made Cisco put a backdoor in its routers
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kubbie2004Mar 23, 2026
+12
Dang these are the routers I’m using. They’ve been collecting my data for over a decade now?
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NahdiraZideaMar 23, 2026
+17
Everything collects your data, I mean everything. Routers, PCs, phones, TVs, smart appliances, if at any point you click a EULA and accept that device is now collecting, and likely selling, your data. Thats whats silly about these laws, it just means that what ever American company router you now have to buy will sell your data and China will just pay for it instead.
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Additional_Quiet2600Mar 24, 2026
+5
The totalitarian crackdown is happening right in front of your face America. You better do something quick.
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vriska1Mar 24, 2026
Did you read the article?
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kendromediaMar 24, 2026
+3
This guy's going to some extreme measures to stay in power.
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_CleverNameGoesHere_Mar 24, 2026
+3
Yeah this totally isn't going to be used to solicit bribes for waivers. /s
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xunreelxMar 24, 2026
+3
Do we even make routers?
3
biloxiboiMar 24, 2026
+5
Irony is the government wants your ID which is a huge security concern of mine.
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Only--EastMar 24, 2026
+2
.....they already have your id
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Modern_BearMar 24, 2026
+6
Very few routers are made in the U.S. Do you want an example of one made here? Starlink ones. Now we know why this is going on. The giant grift continues. Good job, MAGA Morons who support this garbage and hoisted this on our country. Go pound sand, you twits.
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meatybaconMar 24, 2026
+9
I used to think stuff like this was a good thing. However with our current regime it makes me worried that they are laying to foundation to have the US's own version of China's great firewall
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Funkytowel360Mar 23, 2026
+3
Trump did not get his bribes I see.
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Temporary-Algae-6698Mar 24, 2026
+4
I hope my Trump router 2000 comes in gold...
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Greenleaf90Mar 24, 2026
+3
Back to 56k
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Tab1143Mar 24, 2026
+2
I thought real Americans could buy whatever they want.
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No_Clock2390Mar 23, 2026
+6
Does this affect TP-Link? Mikrotik?
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Protean_ProteinMar 23, 2026
+9
Read the article.
>> Last month, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued TP-Link Systems, a California-based router manufacturer spun off from a Chinese firm, for allegedly marketing its networking devices deceptively and allowing Beijing to access American consumers' devices.
TP-Link Systems said it would "vigorously defend" its reputation, adding that the Chinese government had no form of ownership or control over the company, its products or user data.
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MagicBoyUKMar 23, 2026
+9
Paxton is a moron.
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No_Clock2390Mar 23, 2026
+12
I did. It doesnt specifically say.
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GuyCrazyMar 23, 2026
+6
I had the same question. Just because a state sued and the admin put a hold on sales doesn’t mean that was what was banned.
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firemylasersMar 24, 2026
+2
A lot of Mikrotik gear is targeted at non-consumer markets (most of it is marketed for enterprise and SMB use), so I expect that most of their product lines will be exempt from this order (which only targets **consumer** routers).
My CCR2004 for example is the furthest possible thing from consumer, so I don't expect any issues if I need to replace or upgrade it in the future.
The article also says that it does not affect the import or use of existing routers, so in theory that means the existing product line of every OEM is exempt from this order, and only newly introduced products may be potentially subject to it.
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Im_with_stooopidMar 24, 2026
+1
I'm glad I bought my TP-Link Deco 7 Pro BE10000 mesh routers last weekend then.
1
TonyTheTerribleMar 23, 2026
+2
Should ban lenovo too
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LeapIntoInactionMar 23, 2026
+2
The security of their bribes depends on them blocking outside competition.
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ducs4rsMar 23, 2026
+2
I've been using a software based router running in a VM for close to 10 years now.
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MeanYesterday7012Mar 24, 2026
+2
Does this affect gl.inet routers?
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CatCatchingABirdMar 24, 2026
+2
gl.inet routers are manufactured in China. So I'm assuming that they will be affected.
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SafetyMan35Mar 24, 2026
+2
A lot of this stems from a story several years ago where cellphone switch (used at the base of a tower) had firmware in it that “phoned home” to China. The concern being China could launch cyber warfare against us by shutting down a portion of the cell towers in the US.
2
zdrums24Mar 24, 2026
+2
I started playing Homefront: The Revolution the other day and I swear the Trump administration thinks its a accurate representation of the world.
2
mido_samaMar 24, 2026
+2
I don’t trust this administration they wanna lets their surveillance into my like. I’ll get EU products.
2
katmndooMar 24, 2026
+2
I wonder exactly what routers are made in the US?
2
jdogfunk100Mar 24, 2026
+2
They certainly don't need to use a router to hack us. They're extremely capable at this already. First drones, then this...stinks of protectionism under the guise of safety.
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ImpulsE69Mar 24, 2026
+3
This administration needs a re-logo....something like "America Worst".
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markth_wiMar 23, 2026
+1
Given that I'd to search high and low for a comparable home router - I'm just super happy that my router doesn't spout off in Standard Mandarin randomly. I can probably patch it until the cows come home, and then probably have some hyper-specific over-ride to my device that can't be e-prom'ed away.
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BuIINeIsonMar 24, 2026
+1
Follow the money on this one
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Tangerine16Mar 24, 2026
+1
More serious than the security breach by DOGE?
1
ScottOldMar 27, 2026
+1
Only trump approved routers to filter through trump approved propaganda
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IsoscelesCircleMar 24, 2026
+1
The FCC update isn’t a ban on every router. Their FAQ says it applies to new consumer‑grade routers made by foreign manufacturers, which mainly affects companies like TP‑Link, Tenda, and similar OEM brands. Anything already approved or already being sold in the U.S. isn’t affected.
But we aren’t stuck here, and we don’t have to buy whatever “patriot router” or reactionary cash‑grab gets marketed next. There are real alternatives that put you in control. Open‑source options like pfSense or OPNsense running on small x86 boxes (Netgate, Protectli, etc.) give you full transparency and aren’t impacted by this because they’re not consumer routers under the FCC’s definition. Ubiquiti is also unaffected since it’s a U.S. company and their gear falls under enterprise networking rules.
If anything, this is a good moment to step back from the usual consumer router cycle and look at solutions that are more open, more secure, and actually put the user in charge.
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