US remarks on NATO are pushing Europe to seek alternative security options, Spain says

Well, the problem is whether that middle ground will stay middle ground. Right now, we're lucky in a way. Putin already has his hands tied in Ukraine. But in ten years time, and the leader of a re-armed Russia wants to make a go at the Baltics, then all they have to do is wait two or three years for a new Trump. The very moment they elect the next a****** the USA's part of NATO becomes worthless. It's like guarding a house only on weekdays, while announcing to the world that the house will be unguarded on the weekends. All the burglar has to do is wait until the weekend starts, so that guard might as well not be there at all. And if a guard like that is pretty pointless, then why do we bother dealing with his demands?

How have the Democrats gotten “crazy?”

The democrats are a centre party by almost any measure. The political polarization in the USA is just so crazy that the right wing looks at them like baby eaters.

There's always an excuse.

Its not bots mate (or maybe its both). But seriously. Actions have consequences and i'd really love to believe that Trump wasnt voted in legitimately, but unfortunately I know enough about certain red states first hand to know that he is widely supported many places. I get that its probably frustrating to watch the rest of the world turn on the country you value, especially if you yourself dont support trump. But it doesnt take away culpability of the masses unfortunately, and you cant blame the rest of the world for observing and turning their backs. Your comment makes it sound like that isn't warranted, but a quick and honest review of the situation suggests otherwise. It sucks that the chosen figurehead is doing this, but dont misdirect that blame. Also I realize many Americans dont support Trump so that isn't lost on me.

>it turns out all USA's allies were eager and willing to play along and turn their backs. How so? Can you argue that it is moral and decent to support the yanks these days?

Honey, I’ve lived in the Midwest and the South. Yes, a lot, if not most, Americans enthusiastically support this. Racism is the most fundamental element of American culture there is. If it weren’t, we wouldn’t have needed a civil war or a civil rights movement or any of it. America has *had* to make strides toward equality because it has been viciously opposed by a major minority for centuries. This is exactly what America is. This is just the latest iteration of it

And was forced to back down, likely by the military. Legally, attacking Greenland is the equivalent of attacking New York. There is no ambiguity to if the US military is allowed to attack a NATO member.

Even though they have nukes that's not how wars are fought in the modern era. Russia has nukes too but they can't use them because the first person to drop a nuke is getting nuked by everyone else. You still need conventional arms

> The only concern is actually how much we depend on the US military industrial complex, it's a pitty that Germany bought F35 and want to leave the next gen fighter plane project It's not a pity that they bought F-35 - that puts them in a much stronger position than waiting another 15 years for equivalent capability. They don't want to leave FCAS, it just seems that they and France cannot get along on it.

Sure would be nice if the rest of the EU decided to oust Hungary at this point

Which is Trump’s vision, pushed by Russia.

WTF are you on about? Sorry, but I CBA to change my name within 24 hours of creation and didn't even know it was a Listnook rule until much afterward. "anti-Western unity" 🤣 There is absolutely nothing Western about America, Hungary, Russia, or any of the other autocratic shitholes you seem to worship.

I agree with you in principle, and I see your point. But we as EU should not divorce US. We should separate and keep distance from USA and its... society in 2026.

Honestly, I don't think it will. I'm not sure what would at this point. (This is just my opinion): I think the USA being so geographically isolated has created this phenomenon where many people here don't really think of global events as "real" - it's like it's a source of content or some perverse entertainment, think rubbernecking at an accident on the freeway. There are millions of Americans who never leave America, or even their own state (which could be the same size or bigger than many countries elsewhere). Europe or Asia might as well just be a fictional world to them, like middle earth. Hell even other states, like California or New York are portrayed as these communist hellscapes running rampant with homeless people and the bathrooms are full of trans people or some crazy shit. These people, which I think make up a greater % of the population that we're acknowledging, generally only notice or have any reason to act if it directly impacts them in some way that they notice in their day to day lives (e.g. gas/grocery prices, someone they know gets deported, their kids school gets shot up). Lets say Trump nukes Iran (the most extreme scenario) based on his latest tweets. What changes for the average American? What's the catalyst for them changing their behavior? Any sort of retaliation on American soil is pretty unlikely, prices might stay high for a bit and they b**** about it, but as soon as the next thing hits the news it's forgotten. Idk, maybe I'm just in a mood today, but it's pretty disheartening being an American these days.

Not choosing is a choice. I definitely don't agree with everything on either side, but comparing "dealing with dozens of gender identities" and "facing war" kind of makes the point pretty well: One choice is shit, the other is explosive diarrhea.

Gaza is on Israel not the US, Iran is on both.

liberally lunatic

The US is the one who isn't funding Ukraine.