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eskimospy212 Mar 31, 2026 +172

How can it be at a decisive moment when we already won like four times?

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Maximum_Error3083 Mar 31, 2026 +19

Trump has met his march with Iran on the ability to bluster and embellish

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Xollector Apr 1, 2026 +2

If Charlie Sheen can be bi-winning, you sure can beat that with a quad-winning decisively

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Negative-Start9414 Mar 31, 2026 +7

Because Iran is winning.

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thereoncewasahat Mar 31, 2026 +29

They won the moment Trump attacked. 'Should we bomb Iran?' 'No they'll close the straight and there will be nothing we can do.' That should have been as far as it went.

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Superest22 Mar 31, 2026 +8

Strait

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thereoncewasahat Mar 31, 2026 +11

The gay of Hormuz is a fabulous part of the Gulf, the only sanctuary in that part of the world.

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xSaRgED Apr 1, 2026 +3

Honestly, accepting gays in that part of the world could do wonders for their branding and fashion.

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knivesout0 Apr 1, 2026 +2

Hormuz is the Gulf’s hottest new club. It has everything…

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TheGhostofJTWalsh Mar 31, 2026 +1

Strait. George Strait.

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Negative-Start9414 Mar 31, 2026 +8

Yep you're 100% correct. Soon as the first missle was fired at Tehran. The pedo thought he was dealing with the gulf states who show their belly.

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Midiamp Apr 1, 2026 +1

Brave that you assume trump asked. Most likely it's 'we should bomb Iran' and everyone in the room was panicking trying to talk him out of it and because he's the president, he got what he wanted.

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WatRedditHathWrought Apr 1, 2026 +2

Nah bibi asked him nicely, and probably gave him a bribe.

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eskimospy212 Mar 31, 2026 +4

That’s the joke

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morbie5 Mar 31, 2026 +6

I mean if the metric is not getting your regime overthrown then I suppose yea 'Iran is winning' But even if they 'win', after this thing is over their country and economy is going to be in shambles

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son_et_lumiere Apr 1, 2026 -1

Won't they now have gained control over the strait, giving them a new revenue stream in charging tolls, and giving them control over not only the price of global oil (by determining how much oil leaves the Gulf), but also control over being the major oil supplier from the Gulf? Which will give them a bunch more money? Yes, they will need to rebuild, but they also just got a bunch of money to do it. This gives them the leverage to build back stronger.

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morbie5 Apr 1, 2026 +4

And you think that the US will let up on the sanctions if they demand the right to charge an insane fee for ships to pass thru the strait? Plus even if they did that that will mean that saudi and UAE will build more pipes lines that bypass the strait. So at best they'll get a temporary influx of money

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son_et_lumiere Apr 1, 2026 +5

The sanctions are currently let up because of the strategic miscalculation driving up energy prices even in the US. and the dropping of the sanctions were in hopes to ease that. If nothing changes with the strait, energy prices may come down a little due to adding supply to the market, but Iran will only be selling to most favored nations, who will benefit from it. and they may not even want to do that in USD. More pipelines may get built, but that will take time, and won't be able to cover 100% of what goes through the strait. The only 2 pipelines other only cover about 15% of what's produced in the Gulf, and go to the Red Sea which is currently seeing some turmoil with the Houthis, who are under Iranian control, and would be strengthened with the influx of money going to Iran. Which only leaves the only other viable option to be to go through the Suez canal which cannot handle large ships, putting restrictions on global supply.

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morbie5 Apr 1, 2026

> The sanctions are currently let up That was a small letup in sanctions from oil that was already on ships > but Iran will only be selling to most favored nations, who will benefit from it And they'll then sell to 3rd parties, similar to India selling Russian oil to Europe > and go to the Red Sea which is currently seeing some turmoil with the Houthis They aren't as strong as Iran. They could never withstand the same type of operations that are going on against Iran right now. And they are also not under Iranian control. They are an ally, not a subordinate

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Hot_Cupcake7787 Apr 1, 2026 +2

It will take years to build a pipeline to bypass the strait, and that doesn't help Kuwait or Qatar, unless they're included adding more years to construction time. Additionally the pipeline will have to be built in a way that it isn't vulnerable to attack, which is even more complicated. The East-West Pipeline in Saudi Arabia, currently running in excess of its maximum capacity, took 5 years to build and it can only take about 20 percent of the diverted oil. It was actually commissioned in 1979 after the Iranian Revolution for this exact reason, fear of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. If Iran gets at least 5 years of tolls, that's a win for them. They're supposedly getting 2 million USD per ship right now.

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morbie5 Apr 1, 2026 +1

> Additionally the pipeline will have to be built in a way that it isn't vulnerable to attack, which is even more complicated In the future if Iran is attacking arab gulf assets in an unprovoked way then they'll attack Iran's oil assets > They're supposedly getting 2 million USD per ship right now. No country is going to tolerate that long term, they'll be even more isolated internationally than they are rn.

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mesopotato Apr 1, 2026 +1

Iran cannot "control the price of global oil". They can influence it since it's about 20% of the world's oil passing through but ultimately that will speedrun new pipelines through Iran and other countries (like the US) speeding up production to replace the LNG.

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son_et_lumiere Apr 1, 2026 +2

Yeah, not a 100% control, but given that is actually closer to 30% of global supply of oil (and 20% of natural gas), any time they decide to slow the flow, you're going to see prices spike like they are now. New production of either pipelines or facilities elsewhere in the world will take years to come online. Pipeline that runs through Iraq (I assume you mean Iraq and not Iran), only leads to the Red sea which is under turmoil with the Iranian controlled Houthis. They could make the Red Sea tough passage, too. Leaving only the Suez Canal which can't handle as large ships due to size constraints of the canal, further driving up shipping costs both due to lower capacity, and further distance to travel around Africa to supply Asia.

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mesopotato Apr 1, 2026 +1

I actually meant Oman, but I guess autocorrect didn't like that. Lol.

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Pruzter Mar 31, 2026 -2

Iran will have won if the war ends under the terms they set out in their proposal. But I mean, if the US does actually invade, it’s tough to see how they win. It’d be costly on terms of lives for the US, sure, but every US death is going to make them go more and more „all in“. The US lost around 4k from a decade in Iraq, I would imagine what, 5-10k here? Also, any defense offered by Iran will drive soldiers into the open, where they will be decimated by the US Air Force. God forbid the US liberates and arms a city against the regime… that would catch like wildfire through the country. It would lead to the end of the regime, and they don’t want that either.

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FencingDuke Apr 1, 2026 +7

Maybe they don't win, but either way we lose. We're already past the point of no return for reaping ruinous consequences. Everything we do just digs the hole deeper.

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Pruzter Apr 1, 2026 +2

I don’t disagree with you there, that’s for sure

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ElizBorneopentowork Apr 1, 2026 +1

Well you're just 2 weeks away fron leaving. Trust them bro.

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redyellowblue5031 Apr 1, 2026 +1

Just another 4D chess move by Trump. Simpletons like us will never understand the stable genius.

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yosisoy Apr 1, 2026 +1

This time it's for realsies

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monotvtv Mar 31, 2026 +34

Nobody is winning — except the people selling oil futures.

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aintnoonegooglinthat Mar 31, 2026 +8

I mean theyre not winning either

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Chrono_Convoy Mar 31, 2026 +15

Victory falsely declared daily Young Americans preparing for a ground invasion for a war that makes as much sense as the admin who are sending them there to die for nothing.

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Thurak0 Mar 31, 2026 +33

> the next few days in the war against Iran would be decisive and warned Tehran that the conflict would intensify if it did not make a deal. I don't know how much stuff Iran is really losing, but for a whole month I have read about daily ballistic missile impacts in Israel or U.S. military bases or infrastructure in the Gulf States. Every threat of US escalation was met with a ballistic missile or drone hitting something of value, just yesterday the Kuwait desalination plant, IIRC. So these U.S. threats sound not only empty, but desperate by now.

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Maximum_Error3083 Mar 31, 2026 +19

Iran can very cheaply fire off a few missiles each day. The warfare is very asymmetric

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United_Intention_323 Apr 1, 2026 +3

That ignores the massive daily losses they are taking though. I don’t understand how people are downplaying complete air superiority and freedom to bomb at will.

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WorkTropes Apr 1, 2026 -1

I believe Iran has been planning for this over the last few decades. So as mighty as air superiority is, there's only so much you can do without boots on the ground. Not to mention the country is like 20 million people.

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Rude_Initial_5746 Apr 1, 2026 +2

90 million. And, yes, in mountainous regions, airstrikes are limiting in capability. They have been absolutely preparing for an asymmetric battle. The U.S. will suffer if they push forward. That us the point. The global economy will suffer if they push forward. That is the point. However, Iran is pushing the U.S. into a corner, and this crazy administration is more than willing to use nuclear weapons. It is a giant game of chicken. You only need to look at the leaders and the situation to gauge the outcome. Nukes will be dropped. I have no doubt. Trump is f****** insane.

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CRUSTBUSTICUS Apr 1, 2026 +3

Nukes will not be dropped as it directly hurts US interests in both the short and long term. If you are so confident please bet the house on it and show your position.

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Rude_Initial_5746 Apr 1, 2026 +1

Trump has obviously shown his priority is the prosperity of the U S. and your everyday, working man. /s Personally, I hope I am wrong. I don't want nukes to be dropped. But this administration gives me little hope and lots of anxiety. We will see. The fact that it can even be posited as an argument is scary enough. The fact that Nuclear Armageddon could be started by the convicted felon and rapist, is enough. By the time it does happen, it won't matter if I am right or wrong, we will both probably be dead.

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CRUSTBUSTICUS Apr 1, 2026 +1

The thing people get wrong about Trump is that he’s this unilateral force. In fact I think his administration and the cronies using him as a useful idiot prefer this rhetoric as it absolves them of a certain degree of responsibility. He don’t drop the bomb because it can’t be reasonably construed in any context to benefit his handlers. This war if it went like Venezuela (which in theory was definitely possible even if intelligence said it wasn’t likely) would have been seen as a masterstroke of foreign policy and solving a thorn in the US side since the 70’s. Of course it was dumb to do and there’s a reason the other war hawk republicans didn’t even bother but his handlers saw opportunity. There is no benefit to the handlers of dropping a nuke, making the US a pariah state (no it isn’t one yet think more North Korea) and opening the gates for nukes to be used on the US if they ever interfere with the possible foreign wars of Russia, China, North Korea, etc etc. It doesn’t make sense even for the cronies.

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United_Intention_323 Apr 1, 2026 +1

Doesnt change the clear massive losses they are sustaining.

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whatproblems Mar 31, 2026 +4

is it really a deal if there’s no negotiations?

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Engineer9 Apr 1, 2026 +2

They are negotiating... with bombs!

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I-Have-An-Alibi Apr 1, 2026 +2

Oh this administration is being hush hush about any US personnel or equipment losses. It's all bullshit if it's fromcthe Whitehouse.

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Eskipony Apr 1, 2026 +2

Iran has lost a lot of launchers and conventional warfighting capability. But... most of those assets are not really needed to threaten the region and the Hormuz straits. For the war and its objectives its currently fighting, it really just needs to put political pressure on the US and Israel and divide any response to closing the straits. Iran can and is likely to absorb all the bombing done on them which while painful, isn't exactly going to advance US/ Israeli objectives in the war, whatever they may be.

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Jedistixxx Mar 31, 2026 +4

They clearly have allies ready and willing to keep them armed, informed, and funded. This is not against Iran alone anymore.

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Thurak0 Apr 1, 2026 +2

> This is not against Iran alone anymore. What do you mean, "anymore"? Russia and Iran are allied and that China will jump on every opportunity to hurt the USA is not surprising at all. So starting a war against Iran with Russian and Chinese support was clear before this started.

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morbie5 Mar 31, 2026 -5

> I don't know how much stuff Iran is really losing They have lost like the top 4 levels of leadership. How many Israeli or US flag officers have been killed by Iranian missile attacks?

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passionlessDrone Mar 31, 2026 +8

Great! When does gas become c**** again?

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ARazorbacks Apr 1, 2026 +4

It’s a decisive few days because Donald Trump intends to invade Iran with US troops this weekend while everyone is looking for eggs hidden around their lawns.

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jsp06415 Mar 31, 2026 +6

Cool. It’s amateur hour in Washington and the whole world is on fire. What could go wrong?

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not_having_fun Mar 31, 2026 +5

*"Just one more game, mom"*

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bigredthesnorer Mar 31, 2026 +4

Iran's potential attack or threat of attacking major corporations is an interesting move that I doubt Hegseth and his team considered. Though I bet all the real leaders that have been fired or resigned would have.

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iAMguppy Apr 1, 2026 +4

Then he’ll have to have a press conference stating that they absolutely anticipated this.

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truttatrotta Mar 31, 2026 +5

He’s threatening Iran to take a deal that Iran was begging for in a war that’s been won multiple times? And there’s still people who try to defend him.

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PatSajaksDick Apr 1, 2026 +1

Can someone explain why oil prices would fall after news that Iran gets to control the strait?

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GeshtiannaSG Apr 1, 2026 +4

As long as the goods are moving, the prices will fall.

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MarlboroShark Apr 1, 2026 +1

Why doesnt the Reuters article include the full list of 18 companies?

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capnfoo Mar 31, 2026 +1

“US says” or “Trump says” really means “Putin says.”

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GreatGojira Mar 31, 2026 +1

Is this the near peace deal that's coming why day now that the Epstein Class is talking about?

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trgreg Mar 31, 2026 -2

Fake news. Seriously, what are they gonna do when everything they have has been obliterated like 3 or 4 times.

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teamnowak Apr 1, 2026

War? What war?

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coreychch Apr 1, 2026

If it’s a decisive moment, you can guarantee Trump is about to make a hideous judgement call and everything will get worse …

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yosisoy Apr 1, 2026

Threatening random business is an idea. Should the US target random Iranian businesses?

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denNISI Apr 1, 2026 -2

Is Iran is about to set tech back a few years?

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iAMguppy Apr 1, 2026 +1

They could start with AI…

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