Would be the funniest troll if there were no mines at all.
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National-Two24171 day ago
+13
The real threat is c**** drones hitting ships without permission to pass.
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Fallouttgrrl1 day ago
+3
Yeah like
Container ships lose shit in high seas
It would be worse with drones at high noon
Even if you don't lose people, you risk cargo, you risk spills, you risk fires on board a ship, damage, cargo spills if it's liquid oil, and natural gas
... Whoo boy
And you're having to convince a crew of people to go through the strait for a paycheck to secure somebody else's money
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mr-3011 day ago
+21
I mean, I expect there isn’t. But the threat is real, they would risk damaging their ‘own’ ships that have been letting through.
And if there was mines they are showing the safe passage by letting ships through.
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Ellusive11 day ago
+3
Modern mines are programmable.
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fec22451 day ago
+1
They're avoiding the main shipping channel. Some mines be adjusted to target certain types of ships but one VLCC will have the same characteristics as another.
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Ellusive11 day ago
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Modern day mines are just as advanced as missiles. They’re highly programmable, can distinguish between friendly and combatant vessels while having multiple ways to detect vessels from the sound each ship makes and even their magnetic fingerprint.
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fec22451 day ago
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The mines Iran had are not distinguishing between a Panamanian flagged VLCC that loaded in Iran and is bound for India and a Panamanian flagged VLCC that loaded in Iraq and is bound for India. I'm not sure why people keep making this claim.
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Tricky_Big_87741 day ago
+3
I see you aren't familiar with the geography.
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mr-3011 day ago
+2
Drones aren’t mines. Never said it was safe
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PumpnDump09241 day ago
There isn't. The Navy didn't send mine-clearing vessels; they just wanted to create a pathway to prove that there are no mines there.
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Cool-Weight-80361 day ago
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Would be funny if they hit one on the way back.
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Prestigious-Worry-141 day ago
Yeah the mines are definitely just for the news/propaganda. Ships go through the straight every day with no problems. But that’s reality and Americans live very, very far away from it. The US only met for “negotiations” for the hashtag Islamabad peace talks selfies. Then they can say we met with the bad brown people and they didn’t bend over for us so, obviously, everything is their fault. And their maga base will believe it! Just like they believed that raising tariffs would lower prices. Some of the dumbest people to ever walk this earth.
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Ok_Storage58151 day ago
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there is nothing movingvin the straight satellite show straight
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luvinbc1 day ago
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Would be funnier if the American vessel turned around as Iran told them if you don’t turn around in x amount of time we’re gonna open fire on you.
https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/04/11/3563239/axios-claim-of-us-navy-ship-crossing-hormuz-strait-denied
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MendicantBias061 day ago
+10
Lmfao. You know the whole world can watch AIS? Ships have indeed passed, even since Iran claimed it “closed” again after the ceasefire. Now U.S. DDGs are back in the gulf, one literally turned on their AIS to flex their position. Gee, I wonder how they got there. Did they splash down there like the Orion capsule??
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luvinbc1 day ago
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And yet the whole world is laughing at America.
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MendicantBias061 day ago
+5
Laugh all you want, if that helps you sleep at night.
Facts are facts.
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luvinbc1 day ago
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Have the most peaceful sleeps knowing the person in power here isn’t a pedo like in America.
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Stevopotamus1 day ago
+1
Maybe they’re from Scotland and Trump is still a pedo <3
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MendicantBias061 day ago
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Great! That’s good. Rest is important for the mind, body and soul. I too rest well… having eternal optimism for my country.
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Derrickful1 day ago
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US GOV VESSEL 112 has a strange AIS, same position and 19kts speed, in the same spot for 4 hrs.
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fury4201 day ago
+4
It hasn't updated it's position in 16 hours, they turned off AIS.
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ElizBorneopentowork1 day ago
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It's the whole military concept of "living fleet" (my translation may be c*** cause it's not my mother tongue).
You'd rather not engage everything you have in battle because it may get destroy. It's more interesting to keep your fleet (vessels or mine) alive and keep some uncertainty around its status because the existence of the threat is a deterrent of higher value than the risk of losing it in a fight.
It's likely some mines were deployed, it's extremely unlikely they were all deployed and even more unlikely Iran will tell whether they were deployed or not (unless they're trolling on the location) because the threat alone gives them an hedge. The stright is closed.
And the US can go through all they want it means shit.
First because some mines onle detonate after X ships came nearby (like a countdown), and then because unlike the US military, all the ships that need to go through are commercial ships belonging to private interests. And those interests would rather not take the risk of losing their ship.
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Liminal_Aspect1 day ago
+23
I trust that about as much as anything else this admin says
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jtjstock1 day ago
+6
I believe they transited it, I don’t believe they are doing any mine clearing though
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mgr861 day ago
+3
Well they weren’t hit by a mine…so clear? /s
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Simple_Tip41431 day ago
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2 US ships escaped through the hormuz strait during the ceasefire
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SlugFromSnug1 day ago
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The USA have always been cowards
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PeterDawo871 day ago
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Correct. The warship that tried to pass had to turn around before being fired on. They were informed in no uncertain terms to turn immediately. Nothing has passed there yet. That people here still believe ridiculous outlets like Axios is amazing.
Wishful thinking won’t change facts on the ground.
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datumerrata1 day ago
+13
Do you have a source for that?
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AdventurousPolicy1 day ago
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[This was published recently](https://fortune.com/2026/04/11/iran-war-us-warships-strait-of-hormuz-transit-irgc-ceasefir-talks/). It says Iranian media (IRGC) is saying the ships were turned around by drones. So it's another case of who knows what to believe, I'm certainly not believing either version until I see some reporting on actual evidence.
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datumerrata1 day ago
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted for providing the sauce. I appreciate it. It's a shame we don't have a Hormuz strait cam.
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AdventurousPolicy1 day ago
Probably people who don't like what I said because they don't understand the difference between fact based reporting and hearsay. I can't be sure though because they downvote silently.
I certainly don't trust the IRGC but the same goes for the current US administration, who have repeatedly shown that will lie for dear leader. I see no reason that wouldn't also apply to CENTCOM after Hegseth's purges in the military. This could also be a disagreement about how far the ships went before turning around, and the definition of the entrance and exit to the strait. There's just not a lot of clarify about what happened. Fog of war, after all.
I saw [this article](https://news.usni.org/2026/04/11/two-u-s-warships-sail-through-strait-of-hormuz-to-establish-new-route-for-merchant-ships) stating that "ship spotters" reported the transit, but it doesn't identify any ship spotter, doesn't name a location where the sightings occurred, and doesn't say how many spotters reported the passage.
There is a photo the Navy released showing a destroyer transiting the strait on April 11, can anyone geolocate those islands in the background? I can't find them.
EDIT: After further research it appears to be the [As Salamah Archipelago](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Salamah_Archipelago) in Omani waters. The central island is Didimar Island. Based on the orientation of the island in the photo (the lighthouse is on the left side of it but obscured). I'd say that the destroyer was east of the islands and heading Southwest, toward Oman.
This would suggest that if they did go through they likely passed south of the Achipelago, close to Oman. Although, since this is taken from the Gulf of Oman side, this doesn't actually provide any evidence of them getting all the way through.
That route is considered an alternative the normal shipping lanes but is high risk because of shallow areas, so it's possible that some traffic could avoid the tolls by going that way if the US can get rid of any mines that might be there.
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datumerrata1 day ago
+1
That article says the ship spotters observed the return to the Gulf of Oman. Still don't know how credible that is. I think regardless of that, it's almost trivial for Iran to keep the strait closed with some drones. It would be very difficult to identify and neutralize a 3m submersible drone. Even surface drones would be difficult to prevent.
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AdventurousPolicy1 day ago
Return to the Gulf of Oman seems to imply that the sighting happened on the Gulf of Oman side. So that could certainly match either version of events.
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Twitchingbouse1 day ago
+11
I don't trust your source for that version either, which is undoubtedly Iran.
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jtjstock1 day ago
+3
AIS tracking shows one of the US ships passing fully through and back, the other never turned AIS on. They travelled together, if one went through then they both did.
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PeterDawo871 day ago
-1
You will all get your answers from the results of the negotiations. Nothing passed, let alone U.S. warships. It will be clear soon enough.
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AdventurousPolicy1 day ago
+5
It doesn't make sense to me. Why would the ships transit the minefield before clearing it?
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DogVacuum1 day ago
+6
This is more of an ocular pat down, if you will.
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+3
It's mostly a show of force I'd say. They can be attacked, but then the war would restart, and Iran probably doesn't want that. I'm not sure floating mines are a threat, the probability they hit them is very low and they can probably be detected.
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dbandit11 day ago
+1
Hardly a show of force when they can only do it during a ceasefire
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Rambler_Hoss1 day ago
-2
Was the first month of bombings. killing all their leaders in the first hour not enough of show of force? Iran didn't seem to budge then so why would they now? They clearly see their leverage with the Strait and they're using it. They can also see the whole world is turning against US & Israel. Right now, it's the US that's looking to get out of this war.
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+4
> Was the first month of bombings. killing all their leaders in the first hour not enough of show of force?
I don't think so.
> Iran didn't seem to budge then so why would they now?
What does it mean "didn't seem to budge"? They sent and received thousands of missiles, it "budged" things everywhere. They lost dozens of generals, leaders, important buildings, factories, bases etc etc. in all countries of the world these things have an impact. Up to 3m iranians have been displaced: https://www.unhcr.org/news/press-releases/unhcr-3-2-million-iranians-temporarily-displaced-iran-conflict-intensifies , it was a big war, it has impacts. I know on listnook it's a bit dehumanized, but they probably don't want to restart the war Trump started.
> Right now, it's the US that's looking to get out of war.
Both wanted that, it's the reason why they both agreed to a ceasefire.
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Rambler_Hoss1 day ago
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>They sent and received thousands of missiles, it "budged" things everywhere. They lost dozens of generals, leaders, important buildings, factories, bases etc etc. in all countries of the world these things have an impact. Up to 3m iranians have been displaced: [https://www.unhcr.org/news/press-releases/unhcr-3-2-million-iranians-temporarily-displaced-iran-conflict-intensifies](https://www.unhcr.org/news/press-releases/unhcr-3-2-million-iranians-temporarily-displaced-iran-conflict-intensifies) , it was a big war, it has impacts.
And yet you're saying it wasn't enough show of force but somehow sending two naval ships was?
>What does it mean "didn't seem to budge"?
What I mean is the IRGC still controls the country, they're still keeping the citizens under control, they replaced their leaders. They started firing back and bringing other gulf states into the conflict. They seem to be holding on just fine. In fact, they probably were having the best military success in the past two weeks by downing US jets,, heavy damage to military aircrafts at Prince Sultan Air Base.
>Both wanted that, it's the reason why they both agreed to a ceasefire.
Neither side has agreed to each other's demands so how did they agree to a ceasefire? If the ceasefire is happening, why is the Strait still closed or was that not part of it?
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Particular-Ring51101 day ago
+1
Maybe they trust their sensors
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Toastytuesdee1 day ago
-5
Fiction doesn't always have the best reasoning.
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Active-Pineapple-2521 day ago
+6
I don't know who to believe now
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nekonight1 day ago
+15
Pretty hard to lie about it when CENTCOM said the exact ships that crossed. USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121) and USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112). It would be a propaganda win if anyone can prove the US wrong. These two are know US destroyers involved in operations in the arabian sea. Now you could argue over if they stay in the strait for the actual mine clearing or that they are currently in the Persian gulf or just ran the strait and back out the Arabian sea
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Active-Pineapple-2521 day ago
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Very true but does centcom have the same credibility as the President who has said time and time again that Irans launchers have been decimated just make the US look like they are winning
They have definitely taken out a lot of their leaders.
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nekonight1 day ago
+10
Everything that came out of CENTCOM so far that could be validated by third parties was validated to the true. Where a military vessel is during a conflict is top of every intelligence agency mind and easily validated. You cant hide where a ship is in today's world. Any country hostile to the US would have a propaganda win on their hands for just saying the US is lying.
Had CENTCOM said 2 vessel cross without giving the names of the ship i would be less sure but the fact they give the names of the specific ships that did the crossing means the likelihood of the crossing near certain in my mind. Again i would like the point out that just means they cross not that they are doing the mission that CENTCOM said they are or staying in the Persian gulf.
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Mikebyrneyadigg1 day ago
+4
Believe things with hard video evidence in any war. Both sides lie and sometimes tell the same lie. The first casualty of war is always the truth, and that’s by design.
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fartonisto1 day ago
+5
It's funny how stating you don't believe the US around here means you must believe Iran by default. How about don't believe in any of these radical dickheads? None of them are working for you or me, we know that. They both lie, we know that.
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mburke61 day ago
+9
Remember when Trump was elected to his first term? Before he took office people in the media kept saying he'd have to act more presidential now, but he didn't. Then they started saying that he'd act more presidential once he was inaugurated, but instead the first months were filled with bullshit about the size of his inauguration crowd. Trump's was bigger than Obama's. That was when I truly realized that you can't believe a single thing that comes out of this administration. If Trump and the sycophants he surrounds himself with are willing to lie so forcefully about something so petty and inconsequential, then nothing they say is worth anything at all.
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bixtuelista1 day ago
the first victim in war is the truth.
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CatProgrammer1 day ago
I thought it was the people killed.
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TriXter691 day ago
+3
Ok even if this is true, it changes nothing when no ship wants to risk getting drone striked through the strait
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Dilosaurus-Rex1 day ago
+4
They sent 2 ships that got turned around. The misinformation coming from government entities is astounding.
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zIFeathers1 day ago
+2
Listnook response: booooo!
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[deleted]1 day ago
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bliss191 day ago
+5
It was literally reported 4 hours ago and confirmed
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ThomYorkeSoup1 day ago
+1
Where has it been confirmed?
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GoneSilent1 day ago
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two US ships, but NOT minesweepers. 2 US mine sweepers took off from Japan 2 days ago....it will take them another 4-6 days to arrive....one would think those should have taken off to the middle east WEEKS ago. Even months if someone planned any of this.
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bliss191 day ago
+6
It doesn’t say mine sweepers. It mentions naval vessels that were conducting operations related to mine sweeping.
My take is that the verse the water is to test Iran’s control over the strait
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jayrocksd1 day ago
+2
Obviously, none of this was well thought out, but there were already three ships in the Gulf capable of minesweeping. It's highly unlikely that they sent two DDGs into the Gulf without flying the route to scan for mines first.
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84Cressida1 day ago
+1
I believe them over Iran.
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OriginalLittle26241 day ago
+1
"fait accompli"
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THEPIGWHODIDIT1 day ago
Operation 'Human Shield'
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NoSwordfish69491 day ago
https://nypost.com/2026/04/11/world-news/iran-threatens-to-attack-any-us-navy-ships-that-enter-the-strait-of-hormuz/
Iran threatened to attack any US Navy ships that enter the Strait of Hormuz shortly after American vessels moved through the channel for the first time since the war broke out.
Tehran warned Pakistani mediators that “if the vessel continues to move, it will be targeted within 30 minutes, and the Iranian-American negotiations will suffer,” a Foreign Ministry spokesperson told Khabar Network, according to Fars News Agency.
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CowsEatYou1 day ago
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But listnook told me Iran punked them and made them turn around!!!!
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alex81551 day ago
did they say what the tab was for that?
not talking about Irans fee that they want to do
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Jellicent-Leftovers1 day ago
+1
The total cost is about 900 million a day. 1 billion if there's combat.
Even during ceasefire you still have to keep up air patrols constant monitoring and full military alert.
There's a reason the US usually puts it's aircraft carriers in the middle of nowhere.
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FlashyProfession48181 day ago
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Russia has the largest fleet of minesweepers. Trump may ask Putin for help.
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Imbendo1 day ago
+1
Us has minesweepers. And new littoral ships that are to take over minesweeping capabilities.
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GeshtiannaSG1 day ago
+1
The minesweepers are in Japan, they’re not going to be in Iran in about a month if they start moving now.
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Imbendo19 hr ago
+1
So our littoral combat ships are what we now use for minesweeping. There are some in theatre. The 4 ships currently in Japan will be decommissioned shortly is the plan.
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SwvellyBents1 day ago
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Let's see. We have no minesweepers, so clearing the strait might mean directing the least senior commander afloat to drive his ship in first to see if they can find any mines.
Not exactly the best duty, nor route to advancement.
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Student-type1 day ago
+8
Choppers and the LCS class can also perform minesweeping.
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SwvellyBents1 day ago
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Then why don't they? We're at war, remember?
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ravenecw21 day ago
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F*** it, get rid of them both. Maybe expulsions will help keep politicians dicks in their pants
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