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HumanChicken 4 days ago +1047

That’s a dishonorable discharge, right?

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stuck_in_the_desert 4 days ago +426

Big chicken dinner

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Worn_Out_Nikka_L 4 days ago +319

Bad Conduct Discharge for the uninitiated. Arguably worse as a Dishonorable really doesn’t mention why, it’s just bad. A BCD tells everyone what kind of demeanor you have.

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Slighted_Inevitable 4 days ago +121

Both result in complete loss of benefits and any bonuses can be clawed back too if he didn’t finish the term.

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DanielCraigsAnus 4 days ago +54

You can upgrade a dishonorable discharge to other than honorable

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Initial-Lead-2814 4 days ago +13

You can ask for an upgrade, what every 6 months?

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Takemyfishplease 4 days ago +8

Yeah but for a long time they werent really doing it, and it’s fairly difficult irl.

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Slighted_Inevitable 4 days ago +3

For something like this it would be basically impossible. Most of the time to even be considered you have to be endorsed by a CO or sometimes a group of active NCOs.

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Spoonacus 4 days ago +100

Not at all worse. DD is a lot like a felony and and BCD is more like a misdemeanor. Both can include jail time but DD is much more severe and can even carry the death penalty. Think it also means losing rights to own a firearm but I can't remember if that's always the case or not. And you can get a BCD from pretty much anything you can court martialled for. It's punitive so you HAVE to be court martialled to get it but you can be court martialled for damned near anything. It doesn't have to be a severe crime. It can be AWOL or fraternization or something else that UCMJ can punish but isn't a real crime outside of the military. There are so many. Not going to a doctors appointment. Jumping off a boat. Bad mouthing your boss. Faking sick. It's not likely to warrant the BCD but absolutely possible and you'd be surprised how much bored, cruel, or insecure officers like to "make an example." BCD kinda fucks you for government jobs but you can still make it work. You also lose pretty much all VA benefits which was probably the whole reason to enlist. It's not good but it's not the end of the world. Depending on the crime, it might not even get picked up on a background check and is a non-issue after seven years anyway. It might get expensive with legal fees but you can also get it upgraded to something less severe. You can also request a BCD at your court martial. Like, "yeah, I'd rather just take the BCD and leave the military rather than do confinement and come back to a low rank." It's rare but an option. Anyway, f*** that guy. Full Dishonorable and lots of confinement.

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Retireegeorge 4 days ago +27

Loss of right to own a firearm would be quite a good idea for this guy.

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Bagellord 4 days ago +8

Dishonorable discharge disqualifies someone from possessing/buying firearms legally. It's basically equivalent to a felony or domestic violence charge, in that regard.

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mik3cal 4 days ago +5

I thought it was steak and lobster?

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Floom101 4 days ago +4

But what will they serve at Trumps dinner?

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The_Blue_Rooster 4 days ago +42

If so, only because it made the news, I was at a party where a drunken sailor showed up with a gun and gathered everyone in the living room to hold at gunpoint while he interrogated us convinced his wife was cheating with someone there(She was cheating but not with any of us). His punishment was that his CO forbid him from going to that house again. For what it's worth that was long before Trump, this isn't another dumbass "In this administration" comment.

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withateethuh 4 days ago +7

Ay yo, what the f***? That's terrifying.

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Human-Election-9939 4 days ago +94

More likely a promotion to the joint chiefs of staff

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Technical_Fee1536 4 days ago +87

Maybe if it was a mosque, but this was at a synagogue.

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Human-Election-9939 4 days ago +46

This christian nationalist regime likes israel not jews. They are absolutely fine with exterminating minorities of any type

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youreloser 4 days ago +17

Stephen Miller, Jared Kushner, Howard Lutnick, Lee Zeldin are literally Jewish.

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Good_Restaurant15 4 days ago +7

That means f***-all. Hegseth is a nazi and was hand-picked by Miller.

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Vallkyrie 4 days ago +32

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

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madame_of_darkness 4 days ago +13

And they're still nazis, so it doesn't matter

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unlolful 4 days ago +2

The Christian nationalist regime is ok with Israel because they hate Muslims more than they hate Jews.

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Human-Election-9939 4 days ago +8

Evangelicals need israel to fulfill their doomsday prophecy and bring back their 'messiah'. Thats literally it. They do not like jews any more than they like blacks or Trans people or Muslims.

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sulris 2 days ago +2

Racists view Israel as a way to “get rid of” local Jewish people. It’s their version of the “back to Africa” movement. That’s why they can love Israel while being antisemitic.

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SaulTNNutz 4 days ago +21

Depends on if he is a Muslim or a Christian

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dorkofthepolisci 4 days ago +56

Whelp he allegedly stated it was to “protect the white youth” so….its not outside the realm of possibility someone in the GOP offers him a job

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Best-Chapter5260 4 days ago +10

> so….its not outside the realm of possibility someone in the GOP offers him a job At the very least, he probably has a lucrative right-wing podcast career ahead of him.

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Waderriffic 4 days ago +9

He’ll be fast tracked to be a member of the joint chiefs of staff for this.

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No_Struggle1364 4 days ago

Yes, a perfect candidate.

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Mraz565 4 days ago +1

In this administration? That's an interview for a promotion.

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markysyx 4 days ago -1

Under Kegsbreath? Probably a commendation. Or a discharge for not following through.

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ClassicT4 4 days ago +1

Unless Kegsbreath reassigns him to Kid Rock’s military transport detail.

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sinisgood 4 days ago +1

In this admin? If anything that just landed him a job at the Pentagon

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monkeybawz 4 days ago +1

Discharge? It's a promotion hearing!

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NanDemoNee 1 day ago +1

Maybe not anymore in Kegbreath's military.

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Lithium_Lily 1 day ago +1

Nah he's now serving as kegsbreath's PR director

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Elberik 4 days ago +307

Not at all surprised that this guy came out of Fort Polk

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WoolooOfWallStreet 4 days ago +231

“I don’t have PTSD from being in Iraq, I have PTSD from being at Fort Polk” - Zach Hazard 2019

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Osiris32 4 days ago +30

"You see the corn? The corn is very important to the story!" - Zach

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Only-Respond7945 4 days ago +49

Zach Hazard's theory of Polk being the place where the army sends the rejects and some unlucky souls to try and contain the rest proving true.

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Kaarl_Mills 4 days ago +133

Jesus Christ Fort Polk is breaching containment again. I swear everyone who's stationed there and at Ft Cavasos who doesn't just abandon ship as soon as they're possible are always the greasiest, scum of the earth imaginable

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Osiris32 4 days ago +7

> Jesus Christ Fort Polk is breaching containment again. Call the SCP?

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Kaarl_Mills 4 days ago +6

They can't fight weaponized incompetence of that magnetude

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JustSmallCorrections 4 days ago +50

Right after basic I went to jump school. While we were waiting for our last jump, the instructors were going around to each of the new guys and telling us our first duty station. When he came around to me he told me Fort Polk. Him and a couple others laughed. At the time I didn't know why.

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ImperiumRome 4 days ago +33

So ... what's wrong with Fort Polk ?

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JustSmallCorrections 4 days ago +70

It's in the a****** of Louisiana. Terrible location in a terrible state. Closest town (leesville) is right outside of post and its biggest draws are the Walmart and various strip clubs. Compare that to the areas around most other bases. There just isn't anything to do there. Wasn't a huge issue for someone like me who is happy to stay in, but a lot of younger soldiers like to get out and about. Polk is pretty bad for that.

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GourdonHamsey 4 days ago +12

I promise, there isn't shit to do outside Fort Drum NY.

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Reveal-Basic 4 days ago +9

You have to drive an 40 minutes to get away from Watertown, but f*** you have the whole Thousand Island region and Adirondack right next to you! Scuba Diving, Hiking, etc. I did have to travel to Syracuse for a girlfriend however, I'll give you that.

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GourdonHamsey 4 days ago +4

did she work at Paradise Found?? lol >.< there are those amazing things you mentioned. Loved it during the fall, driving around. Then getting lost, but not really, and find a badass small diner called: ["Cooperstown Diner"](https://wgna.com/one-of-the-worlds-tiniest-diners-in-upstate-ny-turned-100/) in Watkins Glen. It's one of the worlds smallest diners.

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Reveal-Basic 4 days ago +5

Know that place in WG! Far as SCUBA diving in the Finger Lakes, it was Skaneateles for me. Second cleanest lake in continental US, and tiny freshwater jellyfish! Seneca had some sunken boxcars to dive in on the northern part of the lake.

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Reveal-Basic 4 days ago +3

One was a Therapist for some state facility, another was working in her Forestry MGMT masters from ESF. There was a Onc County Social Worker too working towards her master. I have a soft center hard shell career lady type I guess haha.

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adubb221 4 days ago +32

>its biggest draws are the Walmart and various strip clubs you have just described most of the army bases... leonard wood? walmart and strip clubs. leavenworth? walmart and strip clubs. sill? you guessed it! walmart and strip clubs.

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JustSmallCorrections 4 days ago +15

Well I can't speak to any of those, but the differences between Polk and Campbell, Lewis, and Benning were pretty stark.

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Bagellord 4 days ago +5

Ft Leavenworth Kansas? I mean it's right outside Kansas City, so as long as you have transportation you've got a major metro area to go do stuff in

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wzlch47 4 days ago +7

As a single 24 year old E5 playing OPFOR, it was a blast. I got to go out in the woods and play laser tag a couple weeks each month. I spent my weekends off rotation in Beaumont, Texas skydiving with friends. I completely understand those who hated Polk. There was enough to do within an hour and a half that made the opportunities for having a great time plentiful.

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Kaarl_Mills 4 days ago +7

Your job was to troll the rest of the army, you're a statistic anomaly

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JustSmallCorrections 4 days ago +1

Same. As someone who spent the majority of those years playing starcraft, call of duty, and Warhammer, Polk wasn't bad at all.

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kuroxn 3 days ago +1

Lmao just that?

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trynared 4 days ago +34

Quick, name an army base with a *good* reputation lmao

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hlgb2015 4 days ago +24

Benning seems to be the least bad of the big bases, which isn’t to say it has a good rep, just not a full on slumville like Bragg or Hood or Polk.

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SilvyValeMead 4 days ago +7

Ft Lewis is good place to be, lots of things to do in the area.

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_nicejewishmom 4 days ago +4

Technically a joint base now, I think. Air Force locations are usually pretty decent.

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blyan 3 days ago +3

It’d be nicer if JBLM didn’t blow shit up at random hours of the night though lol

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SilvyValeMead 3 days ago +1

Sounds of freedom!

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blyan 3 days ago +2

Well can they like... be free when I'm not trying to sleep lmao

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Osiris32 4 days ago +4

Except for the water contamination, steroids, suicide rate, bad command decisions, and history of warcrimes committed by the 3rd/2ID, yeah, Fort Lewis can be nice. If you are already a native of the PNW or anywhere else that is temperate rain forest.

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thenuinn 4 days ago +3

Rucker was pretty nice.

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mechajlaw 4 days ago +1

If you're already used to small town Great Plains I've heard Fort Riley is pretty decent. Manhattan KS doesn't exactly have a lot going on but you could certainly do worse.

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circamidnight 1 day ago +1

I spent 3 or so weeks at ft polk in 2006. That place is the worst.

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KimJongFunk 4 days ago +223

He was charged with “transmitting a threat in interstate commerce” and is still in custody. I’m glad they were able to get him before anything happened.

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ElectricalGate6615 4 days ago +2

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curiousbydesign 4 days ago

Agreed. Kudos to the authorities involved.

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af_cheddarhead 4 days ago +84

Quick Response? The threats were made in February and the individual was arrested in May? Not all that quick, but that's Kash's FBI.

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No-Fan6115 4 days ago +6

Well his name is kash. Kash is a hindi/urdu expression which means "if only" , "i wish".

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Guntcher_1423 4 days ago +3

I thought it meant "How much is in it for me?"

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TheEyeOfTheLigar 4 days ago +179

Let me tell you something, i was a medic on active duty in the army when Obama was president. Not a single battle buddy of mine talked about "winning the war in the middle east" or any radicalized middle east propaganda that the US or any country is pumping out. This guy sounds like a classic Section 8. But with this headline, and the current political landscape, it works. 99% of my battle buddies literally couldn't tell you why we were in the middle easy, and they certainly didnt act like they gave a single shit about it. It was always go to PT, do your day job, drink alchol after work, and just try to stay out of trouble. After 3/4 years, you get the f*** out and never come back. Npbody EVER gave a single flying f*** about what was happening in the middle east or Isreal. Ironically it would be us who would have to die in their wars, yet none of us really understood why we were even in Iraq or Afghanistan. I really feel for the people being forced to do shit in Iran having never signed up to fight that pointless bs.

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Vegetable_Good6866 4 days ago +92

What made Chelsea Manning decide to release all those files was because when she got to Iraq she looked around and realized "wtf are we doing here?'"

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Blagsc 4 days ago +36

Some people just have more morals/ethics, some people cant stand what they saw. Some understand more or are more active and cant handle not saying something. Whistleblowers and etc are rare for a reason (outside of getting punished for it) Most soldiers will just go "dunno did my job" not inherently out of malice but just cause thats what a large bunch of people do (Also having known military whistleblowers myself, most of them are the "ive seen enough, ive had enough of my fellow soldiers complain to me. I'm standing up and taking the blow")

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Lirael_Gold 4 days ago +23

You signed up to support US interests through the use of military force. That is quite literally the job of any/every military. The US hasn't fought a defensive war since 1865, (okay 1941 if we're being generous) you knew what you were getting into.

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ActuatorTasty4982 4 days ago

I give the benefit of the doubt because they get literal children in schools. I don’t think an 18 year old “man” (kid) knows any better. We don’t really have a culture for the military beyond “they protect us” (somehow) while we also all know deep down the wars are all unjust, but you don’t know that as a kid and I can excuse it for a kid. The age they get most of these guys they really are not equipped and that’s by design

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MirrorComputingRulez 4 days ago +42

> having never signed up to fight that pointless bs. Everyone in the military signed up to do this. That's literally the job.

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Easy_Yogurt_376 4 days ago +29

Yeah it’s kind of weird how we infantilize the troops like they didn’t sign up for war like activities

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HybridizedPanda 1 day ago +2

And like you don't thank them so often for their service of war crimes and killing children.

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slicer4ever 4 days ago +13

>I really feel for the people being forced to do shit in Iran having never signed up to fight that pointless bs. I generally agree with what your saying, but what in the hell did you think you were signing up for when you joined the military?

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imnotokayandthatso-k 4 days ago +9

Dodge Hellcat

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creepig 4 days ago +3

at 30% APR

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imnotokayandthatso-k 4 days ago +4

At these inflation rates and rising used car prices, you’d be losing money if you DIDN’T lease a v8!

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creepig 4 days ago +3

Come, give me your whole signing bonus for a car! Also the stripper is totally into you, my guy.

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sarcasticmedic92 4 days ago +11

Everything you said; same over here. Same.

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ActuatorTasty4982 4 days ago +5

I mean if you signed up for the military you signed up for pointless BS, as you just described. Hate to say it cuz I get your point but let’s be real, unfortunately y’all get suckered into this culturally and because it’s a good opportunity economically when you are a kid. But this exact pointless bs is what you sign up for even if you known it at the time or not

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i_r_faptastic 4 days ago +2

He's sounds like a consciences objector who went about it the wrong way.

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Good_Restaurant15 4 days ago +2

The US has been "at war" for >98% of it's entire existence. What reasonable person would assume they'd be able to join the US Military, and NOT get sent somewhere to blow up brown people? What in our history has happened, to give ANYONE the impression, they Won't be getting sent somewhere to blow up brown people....???????????????????????????????????????? >I really feel for the people being forced to do shit in Iran having never signed up to fight that pointless bs. I Don't, and I was stupid enough to join the Navy once upon a time... The entire time I've been alive, the US has been blowing up Someone, and they've always been brown.

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PostIronicPosadist 4 days ago +7

that's more than a little fucked up

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sunkist-sucker 4 days ago +6

f****** bum. keep guns and the like away from this guy

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Pure-Combination2343 4 days ago +8

Got bad news about the US military

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AmethystMalcontent 4 days ago +6

That would require gun control, which this country apparently has no appetite for.

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Good_Restaurant15 4 days ago +5

I'm all for gun control. Nothing sucks more than hitting a bystander. On another note. I'll back all gun control measures the moment the rest of the country starts enacting anti-nazi measures. Until then, I'll be thankful the 2A exists, and at least gives me the chance, however fleeting it may be.

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AmethystMalcontent 3 days ago +1

I'm with you 100% on that

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Late_Opening4185 4 days ago +23

Least surprising thing to come out of Fort Polk. Hope they throw the book at him. Wishing death on anybody is terrible, absolutely vile. But singling out a group of people is as evil as it gets.

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Popular-Rule 4 days ago +53

can we just cool it with the Jews?

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Frequilibrium 4 days ago +10

Right wingers gonna right wing

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MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot 4 days ago +18

Nazis gonna Nazi.

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Frequilibrium 4 days ago +14

I just said that

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Stalinium2 4 days ago +1

Are you calling conservatives nazis?

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Frequilibrium 4 days ago +7

No. Billions of people are.

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MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot 4 days ago +2

Yes, you did.

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Kendall_Raine 4 days ago +37

Luckily you don't need to assume, you just need to read the article. He's just a white supremacist. Those are nearly always right wing.

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Hodr 4 days ago +9

If this were the 80s/90s you could safely say right winger. In the 21st century it's a toss up.

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Cynykl 4 days ago +3

The left being understandably mad at the Israeli government has given the real antisemites cover.

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DisruptorEyeBe 1 day ago +2

Or it’s all the evil “Isn’t-Real” is spreading across the globe.

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Civil_Future_2095 4 days ago +98

Oh, so what department are they making him head of?

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TimDuncanIdaho922 4 days ago +34

He’s gonna replace Hegseth.

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classless_classic 4 days ago +10

Or Patel

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Thu66 4 days ago -10

Uhh this admin is the greatest defender of israel

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a34fsdb 4 days ago +18

Not because they like Jewish people.

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UselessInsight 4 days ago +17

An American soldier threatened American Jews. Why did you bring up Israel?

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Spire_Citron 4 days ago +5

He didn't say he was going to attack Israel, though. This guy was a white supremacist, and they really don't care about anything directed at Jewish people for that reason even though they're usually the ones getting violent with it.

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HereInTheCut 4 days ago +9

Sounds like his next SecDef

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Kursiel 4 days ago +14

AK? In the US military?

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UselessInsight 4 days ago +26

You can buy semi-automatic versions in the US. He’s not getting a US military issue AK.

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OldAccountIsGlitched 4 days ago +5

It's still a pinko commie design used by terrorists. Real Americans should be brandishing ARs like Jesus intended. /s Although I guess the right likes Russia these days. So maybe my assessment is out of date.

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websagacity 4 days ago +11

He could own his own AK.

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t-mille 4 days ago +3

Conservatives are foaming at the mouth to continue the atrocities they started 90 years ago.

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edingerc 4 days ago +18

Going to get an invite to the Proud Boys while in prison.

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PossiblyATurd 4 days ago +13

He should've said he'd shoot up a school, they would've left him alone then.

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ChummusJunky 4 days ago +16

100% chance he voted for Trump and instead and is now blaming the Jews for his daddy's problems

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Stalinium2 4 days ago +2

Not even a trump problem, the issue is that everyone associates Jews with Israel and right now everyone hates Israel

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DrEpileptic 4 days ago +5

Ok sure, but the whole idea that Israel made Trump do it- he could’ve just said no like Biden and Obama did. So like… still only works if you’re brainrotted or just hated jews to begin with.

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Chocol8Cheese 3 days ago +2

He will get a kegsbreath promotion

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RINewsJunkie 4 days ago +4

He was just promoted to a General by Whiskey Pete

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JordanTheOP 4 days ago +6

People are disgusting

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My_alias_is_too_lon 4 days ago +4

So ICE is going to give him an e*****, then?

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spatialflow 4 days ago +3

If he said he was gonna kill all the liberals he would probably have a rank promotion, a gofundme that reaches a million dollars, and a guest appearance on Fox

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wytewydow 4 days ago +6

conservatives sure are a confused lot.

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According_Role_2802 2 days ago +1

He walks into the synagogue, sees wedding rings on everyone's fingers, and leaves sad and disappointed.

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Prudent-Parsnip-7105 1 day ago +1

With the way all military personnel are being treated is anyone surprised.

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Guntcher_1423 4 days ago +1

Promoted to head of Joint Chiefs then?

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U.S. soldier threatened to 'walk into a synagogue with my AK' and 'kill every single Jew,' DOJ says

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