A Carrier Group INCLUDES the destroyers otherwise it's just a Carrier. Or are these 10 additional DDs?
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Tharkhold4 days ago
+3585
Indeed. Given the quality of reporting nowadays, I'm betting they didn't make that distinction (or asked about it).
Carriers never operate alone. They certainly have air, surface and subsurface protection elements.
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HerbScientist4204 days ago
+1300
The reporting has been so poor. I was reading an article on a similar topic the other day and they began referring to the destroyers in question as “tankers” mid paragraph. Was incredibly confusing, given tanker movements are also very topical at the moment, and I had to reread it several times to confirm that they were in fact just referring to guided missile destroyers as “tankers”, not in reference to any shipping vessels. Zero journalistic standards anymore, this was the Wall Street journal and it was an article that was hours old at the time
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wavelifter3 days ago
+86
Can't remember who to attribute this concept to, but at the dawn of social media and Facebook news feeds, people were already realizing that the speed of news delivery has a negative correlation to news quality, simply because of cost of change. On one extreme end, newspapers wouldn't allow you to change once it got printed and delivered, so you had to double, triple check your work because it was going to get enshrined forever. On the other extreme end, news sites can create/edit/delete anything they want at will. Hell this post is arguably even faster than some news sites and equally modifiable. TV news is somewhere in the middle. The only benefit I see with Listnook is that: the due diligence comes from the engaging community. Because everyone can share their take on a post, the truth (at least as the engaging group sees it) will bubble up. Whether that can be considered quality/trustworthy, and whether that just perpetuates echo chambers is another topic/problem lol
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productzilch3 days ago
+13
Yes, I remember it being talked about 20yrs ago. What has surprised me is the quality of reporting from some YouTubers, like Rotten Mango. They can certainly delete or edit but it’s much harder than on a news site, partly because of the audience who notices these things. They gain enough of a following that they can hire a team of researchers and actually tend to make corrections openly and be clear about when they’re reporting on commentary or their own impressions.
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Swimming-Mammoth4 days ago
+1136
Also what happens when you use AI slop instead of real reporters AND editors.
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Heavy723 days ago
+716
I am surprised editors even exist anymore. Everybody is so quick to put out anything they can get their hands on, I doubt anyone is taking half a beat to check their work.
*edit - grammar.*
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TolarianDropout03 days ago
+700
The "edit - grammar" on this comment specifically is chef's kiss.
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Front_River_23673 days ago
+210
Cut them some slack, it's not like they're a multi-million dollar journalism org.
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crooney353 days ago
+59
Try multi-billion dollar. According to Google ai they recently reported $648 million in quarterly revenue, so 2.592 billion yearly. It’s hard to hire quality editors when that’s all you’ve made. /s
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Baeolophus_bicolor3 days ago
+10
Yeah, but they still need to be propped up by the government, and guaranteed to be reimbursed when they fail. Which I’m sure their accountants will figure out how to make them appear to be doing in tax filings so they can loot the treasury some more.
Meanwhile Google ai just told a guy to do a mass casualty event at an airport then kill himself so he could join the ai in the afterlife.
ETA: and he did kill himself. Wife is suing.
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ForeverFingers3 days ago
+147
It's funny cuz they cared enough about their post, moreso than the editors and reporters they referred to.
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TheMathNut3 days ago
+7
That's exactly how I saw it too. They cared more about their response on *listnook* than the editors do on *The Wall Street Journal*.
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Somederpsomewhere3 days ago
+68
That edit is fantastic, given the context.
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hamilkwarg3 days ago
+82
They have editors. AI editors. I’m just guessing - but pretty sure I’m right.
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phigene3 days ago
+118
I just asked AI if you're right and it says yes.
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TheAngryCatfish3 days ago
+113
You're basically an editor now
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lord_vivec_himself3 days ago
+112
You're an editor, Harry
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One_Maybe_24603 days ago
+58
Im something of a hairy editor myself!
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stonedandthrown3 days ago
+35
TMZ is gonna come up for real.
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The_BeardedClam3 days ago
+51
It's just another mark of the days we live in, when TMZ is one of the last arbiters of truth.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+24
"Hey Claude, does TMZ confirm that the US has 3 carrier groups and an additional 10 destroyers in the straight of Hormuz?"
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Beginning_Pomelo1963 days ago
+59
When I was still enlisted few years ago, we were convoying to another base for a training event. Saw an article with a picture of convoy, specifically of our network dishes.
Article said they were riot control devices designed to let out a boom to incapacitate people. I was like wtf? They’re just dishes for the commanders to get on the Hubs for their private fapping time between thinking of other pointless BS for us to do.
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VeterinarianFit13093 days ago
+29
When I was enlisted we did, in fact, have LRAD’s on our ship, but they didn’t look anything close to a dish of any kind… more like those tourist lookout binocular things that you would find on a tall building or a mountainside viewing platform, but without the lenses…
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light24bulbs3 days ago
+10
Yep this is the universal experience when something you're involved in is covered by the news, you realize half of it is f****** wrong most of the time.
It's even worse when it's something socially divisive and you know the media has gotten it wrong on purpose because you were standing there at the protest or whatever, but it's too late.
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Iolair183 days ago
+53
Yep. I think there was also some confusion from journalists not knowing the difference between tanker and oiler. Oilers in Navy parlance are refueling tankers, usually using underway replenishment. There are press releases on the replenishment oilers that the fleets are using: USNS John Lewis and USNS Henry J Kaiser are reported in the Indian, keeping the Lincoln Carrier Group and the 31st MEU fueled. The Fast Supply USNS Arctic is enabling the Bush Carrier Group to zoom down the Atlantic to the Indian at 30 knots without the Destroyers running dry.
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ElbowRager3 days ago
+26
Many people don’t realize Oilers are often among the first ships targeted. As such, they are typically guarded on all sides. If you take out the fuel, you’ve got a bunch of sitting ducks.
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Not_Stupid3 days ago
+11
So you need oilers to supply the warships, but then you need warships to protect the oilers, and then more oilers to supply the warships protecting the oliers, and then warships to guard those oilers... and don't you need more oilers to supply the oilers? with warships to protect them of course...
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Kirby_Goes_Wub3 days ago
+46
Sounds like they’re trying to put in as many SEO keywords as possible so they end up at the top of Google searches for ad money rather than delivering well written, meaningful articles.
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Possibly_Naked_Now3 days ago
+32
It's not reporting. It's AI.
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mckzach3 days ago
+28
Also, don’t forget the recent New York Times(?) article about NATO, spelled out in the banner as the “North American Treaty Organization.” Ugh!
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TjW05693 days ago
+11
Well, at least it was the NYT and not The Atlantic.
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Proper-Doughnut773 days ago
+24
It's our president keeping the press in his pocket. I'm guessing you've noticed that we are only getting vague reports about what he and the Army, etc are doing.
It's so disgusting.
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TeagenSirrus3 days ago
+20
It doesn’t help that reporters are being threatened by the WH every time they try to report the news.
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[deleted]4 days ago
+82
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Tharkhold4 days ago
+140
Subs are one of the most secretive things. A carrier on its own is extremely vulnerable (and expensive $$/crew-wise), so it NEEDS protection elements against air, surface and subsurface threats.
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Typical-Blackberry-34 days ago
+61
That's what the sharks with laser beams are for.
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MedvedFeliz4 days ago
+18
Or attack dolphins and giant squids.
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insidiousordo4 days ago
+11
Red alert reference!
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musashisamurai4 days ago
+50
There usually is one attached to a carrier group, though it may operate far ahead. However the persian gulf is narrow and shallow,na submariner's worst nightmare. ASW aircraft can see visually down 100ft in areas like that, and there are far more ASW aircraft than submarines in existence
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joelfarris4 days ago
+10
The good news for the carrier is that this can work both ways, as in seeing and making sure that there are no underwater threats in that direction, and thus the submarine can take care of things on the far side of the group.
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eypandabear4 days ago
+43
> Never any mention of subs.
Yes. That’s kind of the point.
AFAIK even a submarine’s crew (non-officers) often don’t know where exactly they are at any given time.
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joelfarris4 days ago
+52
Underwater. They're underwater.
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severoordonez4 days ago
+15
Well, there are no windows in a sub, so they don't _know_ that.
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Python_074 days ago
+9
Sub-Marine……
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Weekly-Rich35354 days ago
+13
I would think there are most definitely submarines deployed in the area.
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AintNobodyGotTimeDat4 days ago
+58
I know this should be a common knowledge, but I learned this hard way while playing Civilization 6 with my unprotected carriers and jet bomber that it carried getting destroyed. Now whenever my carrier/s is on the move it is companied by a destroyer 😂
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AccomplishedFerret703 days ago
+21
The Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton
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gingerbakerisgod4 days ago
+37
You didn't learn it the hard way I promise
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Hopsblues3 days ago
+6
Sometimes this admin makes decisions that remind me of Civ. It's kinda weird actually, a lot of stuff that makes me think, do they just sit around and play civ and make plans using those tactics?
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modsiw_agnarr4 days ago
+99
Enterprise briefly operated alone after 9/11. She out ran her e****** en route to the Persian Gulf.
The carrier group was returning home on 9/11. Enterprise, before receiving orders, turned around. Her aircraft flew 700 missions dropping 800k pounds of ordnance. Enterprise was 16 days late getting home.
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seanconnery696963 days ago
+78
When captain Picard says engaged, you engage
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Osiris323 days ago
+59
"Turn around and blow everything up" is more of a Kirk thing than a Picard thing.
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Teal-Prowler5053 days ago
+29
Unless there are borg involved and it's movie Picard
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Osiris323 days ago
+11
That was less explosions and more submachinegunning.
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Hotarg3 days ago
+9
I'd argue its a Sisko thing, but I won't rule out Kirk.
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Old_Instrument_Guy3 days ago
+29
I had a friend in the navy back in the 80s. He was on a missile Frigate that was part of the e***** for a Flat Top. I can't recall which one, but he stated the same thing. The Carrier could drive circles around them. He hated it.
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Ichigo28193 days ago
+11
Not all of them, I was on the USS King DDG-41 and she was one of a handful of big boiler ships that could keep pace
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ireallydont1234 days ago
+23
Wasnt aware of this. Thats crazy.
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6BlitzBurgh4 days ago
+110
I was on a carrier for 5 years, while you are correct, we never travel alone, our strike groups never consisted of having 10 DDGs around us. Typically you’d have 3ish DDGs and a cruiser or 2 at max. Also you’d have a sub in somewhat close proximity in the operating area.
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IvanRoi_4 days ago
+98
3 carriers x3ish DDGs = 10
The maths seems alright to me
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Coniuratos4 days ago
+55
So three carrier groups would mean roughly ten destroyers, or exactly what's being described here, right?
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6BlitzBurgh4 days ago
+45
I completely glanced over that, yes, that would be pretty typical for 3 strike groups.
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nekonight4 days ago
+270
Latest USNI News fleet deployment tracker for April 13th list the following deployed to the Arabian Sea:
Carrier Strike Group 3:
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72)
USS Frank E. Petersen, Jr. (DDG-121)
USS Spruance (DDG-111)
Independently deployed warships:
USS Milius (DDG-69)
USS Delbert D. Black (DDG-119)
USS Pickney (DDG-91)
USS Mitscher (DDG-57)
USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112)
USS John Finn (DDG-113)
USS Rafael Peralta (DDG-115)
USS Canberra (LCS-30)
Also operatoring in CENTCOM area of responsibility is:
USS Tripoli (LHA-7)
USS New Orleans (LPD-18)
USS Rushmore (LSD-47)
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laptopAccount24 days ago
+265
Wow. The Tripoli is a marine flat top with no well deck and instead has more facilities for aviation. It is designed to carry over 20 F-35s.
Some serious air power they brought over there.
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Nearby-Chocolate18403 days ago
+42
It's something of a testament to how absurdly powerful US overseas force projection is that most people aren't even aware of the US fleet of "mini-carriers" -- 9 Wasp and America Class amphibious assault ships with the ability to carry 20 - 25 F-35 fighters each. Which combined equals more air power than the actual carrier fleet of any other naval power. Almost twice as much, in fact.
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scoopzthepoopz4 days ago
+309
They're spending other people's money – of course it's any and everything
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UniqueIndividual35794 days ago
+93
I wonder how much this costs per day.
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Rory_calhoun_2224 days ago
+204
Just remember, US forces spent 20 billion a year on air conditioning for tents in the middle east during the War on Terror (more like 30 in 2026 dollars).
No price is too high for blowing shit up on the other side of the planet.
https://www.npr.org/2011/06/25/137414737/among-the-costs-of-war-20b-in-air-conditioning
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HunterBidensHogg4 days ago
+182
But we can’t afford to pay for breakfast and lunches for schoolchildren. I hope someday a true progressive can get in there and cram through a bunch of social programs and maybe help people realize how much better it might be for the vast majority of us
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coffeeandfanfics3 days ago
+96
Voting is like taking busses to get where you want to be; there are no direct routes so you take the options that get you closer and going in the right direction.
There won't be any candidates that are ideal, but voting for the best option makes it more likely that we will get to better ones.
Not voting at all doesn't help anyone but the worst options.
So keep voting!
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Pretend_Safety3 days ago
+20
Please repeat this often!
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JimsVanLife3 days ago
+22
This has got to be one of the best analogies I've seen yet. Bravo! 👏👏👏
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ydnar30003 days ago
+47
God, why does that seem like such a far fetched expectation? To have the people of our country cared for instead of needlessly attacking yet another middle eastern country seems like it’s something I won’t see in my lifetime. I know the answer is greed. I just wish it wasn’t this way.
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BoredNuke3 days ago
+27
Its c****. Just the low low cost of healthcare,housing, education, and senior care.
/s we know those arent on the table anyways.
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Xspud_3164 days ago
+13
Correct, there will also be some sort of frigate/anti submarine ships with each carrier and probably at least 2 submarines as well covering all of them.
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LoneSnark4 days ago
+50
A carrier is not going to do any tanker interception. So at least some destroyers will be operating separate from the carrier groups. 10 sounds like a plausible number.
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Guyfawkes19944 days ago
+533
Seems a bit off counting all the CVNs thete or en route, but only counting the DDGs and LCS in the Arabian Sea. There’s a little bit more than that either in the area or en route.
**Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group**: operating in the Arabian Sea
* USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72), USS Frank E. Petersen, Jr. (DDG-121), and USS Spruance (DDG-111)
* **Tripoli Amphibious Ready Group**: USS Tripoli (LHA-7), USS New Orleans (LPD-18), USS Rushmore (LSD-47) and elements of the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit.
* independently operating warships in the area are USS Milius (DDG-69), USS Delbert D. Black (DDG-119), USS Pickney (DDG-91), USS Mitscher (DDG-57), USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112), USS John Finn (DDG-113), USS Rafael Peralta (DDG-115), and USS Canberra (LCS-30).
**Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group**: operating in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea
* USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG-81), and USS Mahan (DDG-72)
* independently operating DDGs in the Eastern Mediterranean are USS Bulkeley (DDG-84) and USS Gonzalez (DDG-66)
**In the Red Sea**
* USS Bainbridge (DDG-96) and USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116)
En route-
**George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group**: operating off the coast of Africa in the South Atlantic
* USS George H. W. Bush (CVN-77), USS Mason (DDG-87), USS Donald Cook (DDG-75), and USS Ross (DDG-71)
**Boxer Amphibious Ready Group**: operating near Guam in the Western Pacific
* USS Boxer (LHD-4), USS Comstock (LSD-45), USS Portland (LPD-27) and the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
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peazley4 days ago
+377
Seems like a lot of naval vessels in one place. Does that mean other areas are vastly under-protected right now?
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Illustrious_Lion_4603 days ago
+426
Speaking as someone who had done a deployment on 2 of those carriers. Most likely *hopefully* the one en route is on the way to let one of the others go home. I can't imagine how misserable the folks on the Ford are right now, they've been away from home and their families for so much longer than normal. It's typical for a strike group to stand it's post until "relieved"
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seabed_nightmares3 days ago
+334
Trump really isn’t making friends with service members. I don’t expect much from a commander in chief who comes from a corporate background and became famous for a dipshit reality tv show where he says “you’re fired”.
I didn’t reenlist in the Navy in 2024. I stand by my decision.
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wilted-wombok3 days ago
+181
Especially when he insulted POWs as 'losers'
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Kingkwon833 days ago
+122
And many Vietnam vets who fly the POW MIA flag pretended they didn't hear that and still supported Trump. Insane
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wilted-wombok3 days ago
+83
It's wild that ANY veteran supports him. He clearly has no respect for any of them
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kahlzun3 days ago
+8
who does he have respect for, honestly?
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BrummbarKT3 days ago
+13
Putin, Bibi, Orban, basically other leaders who are as bad as him or worse.
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Illustrious_Lion_4603 days ago
+37
Yeah I'm on my way out now. Dd214 bout to be my most valuable possession.
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seabed_nightmares3 days ago
+24
If you still can, file for BDD. I imagine VA funding will be on the chopping block at some point.
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Illustrious_Lion_4603 days ago
+19
Claim is already on step 5 😎
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Lothar-Alaska3 days ago
+44
Don’t forget he got out of military service due to “bone spurs”. I would LOVE Independant verification of that. If false, that’s a felony IIRC, and then his presidencies and his VP’s terms are all illegal.
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Treize263 days ago
+42
If 34 of them didn't do it, throwing one more onto the pile isn't going to change much.
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Lothar-Alaska3 days ago
+34
President Obama should start publicly calling for verification of his “bone spurs”, since Trump went on about his birth certificate for so long. Even just to annoy the c*** out of him.
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DSM-1873 days ago
+15
His bone spurs are from Trump’s childhood in Kenya
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notjay23 days ago
+8
I wish that was true and if I’m wrong I’d be happy but from what I’ve heard it seems the opposite. I’m not in the military and never was but my buddy that’s like a brother was in the marines for a long time. He was a big Trump guy, now he’s like a quiet secret Trump guy.. he told me a lot of new recruits love Trump.. I also have a cousin that’s a career military guy, he said it was scary how many supported Trump and mentioned a while ago that higher ups that didn’t were leaving or being forced to leave.
If you tell me I’m wrong though I’d be thrilled.
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jisookenobi24163 days ago
+12
Not to mention the toilets are absolutely gone to shit, no pun intended. But honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they’re just forced to stay there for at least a month or so
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duckyd18243 days ago
+158
Not really. There's 11 carrier strike groups. The US military is sized to fight something like two peer or near peer wars at once on opposite sides of the world. And that's just the navy's aircraft carriers. The Marines have their own smaller aircraft carriers like the america and wasp class amphibious assault ships. Like 9?
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jordansrowles3 days ago
+29
I did some Googling because I could have sworn it was "2 theaters". It is (was) actually 2-MTW (two major theater wars). But it was actually updated in 2018
> Now, the Defense Department has adopted a one-war standard geared toward defeating a great-power rival. In other words, rather than planning to win multiple medium-sized wars, the Defense Department is preparing to win a single major war against a formidable competitor, one that can match (at least in some areas) American military might. ([source](https://www.aei.org/articles/one-war-is-not-enough-strategy-and-force-planning-for-great-power-competition/))
Its now 1 major great-power, and one lesser.
> The US military in the near-to-medium term cannot afford to fight two major conventional wars, and pretending otherwise is strategically dangerous.
https://publications.armywarcollege.edu/News/Display/Article/4129357/adapting-us-defense-strategy-to-great-power-competition/
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Rexpelliarmus3 days ago
+88
There’s only 9 carrier air wings so only 9 carriers can ever be equipped with aircraft.
Plus, at any point in time there’s usually only 3-4 carrier strike groups active anywhere in the world so 3 carrier strike groups in one area absolutely does mean other areas are poorly defended.
In fact, two of the carrier strike groups there at the moment, USS *Abraham Lincoln* and USS *Gerald R. Ford*, were pulled from other theatres to reinforce the Middle East. The former was originally deployed to the Indo-Pacific but was redeployed to the Middle East and the latter was originally performing duties in the Caribbean and Atlantic (you’ll remember this carrier was due for a break after Venezuela but was immediately redeployed due to lack of other alternatives).
There are currently zero carrier strike groups in the Pacific, leaving the region vulnerable and undefended. And of the active carrier strike groups currently out at sea, they are *all* committed to the Middle East. There are no other carrier strike groups deployed or ready to deploy.
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Foreign_Skill_66283 days ago
+11
Pretty sure the rule of thumb is there are always supposed to be a minimum of 3 carriers actively deployed, 3 on their way to port for resupply and repair, and 3 leaving port to relieve the 3 active carriers
11
Whhatsmyageagain3 days ago
+74
lol the US navy has the second biggest Air Force in the world or something like that. And then like twice as many aircraft carriers as the next like 3 countries combined. It’s an absurdly powerful fleet
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Valance233223 days ago
+17
The US military has about as many carriers as every other nation combined, to the point that when we talk about carriers we don't even count our smaller ones which are comparable to many other navy's main carriers
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Rkovo844 days ago
+2077
Wait, I thought I just read that it was open now? I can’t keep up with all this shit lol
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MrWhite264 days ago
+782
It's hard to get an idea of reality from just the headlines in the news. This is one of the sites which shows the current traffic: [https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/HORMUZ-STRAIT/ship-traffic-tracker](https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/HORMUZ-STRAIT/ship-traffic-tracker)
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Corpus764 days ago
+280
Cool site, neat that there's pictures of so many ships if you click on them.
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dhoomsday4 days ago
+95
right? i like it better than the flight radar one. Who knew there were so many different ships!
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NukaDadd3 days ago
+49
Uh...You can see the photos of the planes on the flight radar tracker too.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
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PerterterhTermertehh3 days ago
+74
yeah but they tend to look the same after a while. Boat r******* is better
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dotikk4 days ago
+49
This also only shows ships reporting properly with their transponders.
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Waste_Tangerine_1793 days ago
+11
yeah even in normal times situations, not all transponders are on.
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BrightNeonGirl4 days ago
+113
There are SO MANY boats sailing around the world right now. It's really cool to see. (Looks like there is a long path in the middle of the Pacific Ocean that is specifically for pleasure craft. Probably to avoid the other types of ships.)
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IvorTheEngine4 days ago
+67
It's probably a route that stops at tiny islands. Big ships are just trying to get from A to B, pleasure craft want to stop to see the sights.
Also, it's 10,000 miles across the Pacific. At 5mph, that's 83 days - you'd really, really want to break that up.
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userhwon3 days ago
+17
Puddle-jump season. They're repositioning from the Caribbean to Polynesia then maybe SE Asia or Australia. They do it while the winds are favorable before cyclone season starts.
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bradland3 days ago
+12
It's not so much that they're routing around other ships as it is these routes are the most sensible navigation path to destinations that pleasure craft are headed to.
That area where you see so many pleasure craft headed to/from is French Polynesia. Home to such hits as Tahiti and Bora Bora. Google image search for French Polynesia, and it'll become clear why they're all sailing there. If you're a billionaire with a yacht capable of sailing the pacific, this is a high-priority destination.
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DDS-PBS4 days ago
+16
Don't blame the news. You could read the direct tweets from POTUS and be just as confused.
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Sunim4164 days ago
+46
Unreal that there are so many. No wonder global warming is happening. Guess me sorting my recyclables and trying to phase out plastics is really contributing to the cause.
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twoDuckNight4 days ago
+258
Media is treating him like he has credibility for some reason. It is frankly insane
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TatonkaJack4 days ago
+94
the markets are treating him like he has credibility too. oil prices haven't gone back up over $100 even though the straight has effectively stayed closed this entire time.
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ClankingRobotCheeks4 days ago
+17
Wide open, you just have to dodge the missiles and mines, with your oil tanker and/or pay a toll to one or more governments.
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Akiraooo4 days ago
+23
That truth media post was to manipulate the stock market that is linked to a AI system reading headlines to make stocks go up and down.
Check out the gamestop saga and the return of Keith gill streaming the stock market live. He was showing how something is controlling it in real time based on news headlines.
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scarab10014 days ago
+83
Iran didn't say anything either.
Likely Orange A****** tacoing.
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Nervous_Test_30054 days ago
+48
None of big media reporting it’s now open
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+80
Trump does. Xi will give him a big hug for it
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redditsuckscockss4 days ago
+24
It’s a Trump tweet this morning
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sebnukem4 days ago
+141
I did that in a past civ game to avoid being defeated by a trireme.
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NefariousOrder3 days ago
+48
And the trireme still won
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raindownthunda3 days ago
+9
I fought the trireme … and the trireme won
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ChroniclesOfSarnia3 days ago
+6
I assume you destroyed **Tenochtitlan** as revenge...?
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NefariousOrder3 days ago
+5
I ain’t gangster enough to mess with Montezuma
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sandwhichdrop4 days ago
+547
The moment Japan has been waiting for lol
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yuje4 days ago
+296
And who would know better about surprise attacks than Japan? Remember Pearl Harbor???
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Bolter_NL4 days ago
+144
Let's ask the PM, she's right there!
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anonareyouokay3 days ago
+26
Prime Minister Takaichi: am I being punked right now?
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[deleted]4 days ago
+93
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Show-Me-Your-Moves4 days ago
+152
**Battleship Yamato rises from the depths**
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Sepelius4 days ago
+15
I can hear the song.
15
FatMaul4 days ago
+9
please tell me you're talking about the one that starts "We're off to outer space..."
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LeafBoatCaptain4 days ago
+7
Get in the damn robot!
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TheFoxsWeddingTarot3 days ago
+25
This does seem to create a crowded target rich environment. With that much activity in one place it seems to heighten either the possibility of serious accidents or even of a small boat/drone sneaking through.
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whatsinurwitchsbrew4 days ago
+240
A3? Hit. A4? Miss. B3? Hit.
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marticcrn4 days ago
+56
You sunk my battleship!
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DoTheMario3 days ago
+25
Did you cluster your entire fleet in the bottom left corner of the Strait of Hormuz again!? Why are you like this?
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Master-Monk-86903 days ago
+168
Everybody knows that you continually send more and more troops and warships after you've won the war. Art of the deal.
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Flat_Explanation_8494 days ago
+932
What’s the estimated cost per day of this deployment?
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Ok_Drummer62824 days ago
+1741
More than what healthcare would cost. Thats for sure.
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Jackadullboy994 days ago
+412
Who needs healthcare when the president is a doctor??
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unimaginative_name23 days ago
+69
He promoted himself to Christ now.
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fa1364 days ago
+83
Il transforme l'eau en soda
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Flat_Explanation_8494 days ago
+248
Yep.
And how does this expense benefit the average American citizen?
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Quintronaquar4 days ago
+206
It does not
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Boyhowdy1074 days ago
+56
The longer the strait is closed, the higher the odds for a global recession. Granted, it's not great for the Iranians to be charging tolls on everything passing through as that cost is passed onto everyone. The ideal is to get back to the pre-war status quo where ships traveled safely and for free. So you could argue if this tactic gets us back to the status quo sooner, there is some benefit in trying to clean up a self inflicted wound. But in the short term while we are closing the strait, we are effectively spending taxpayer dollars to raise prices on taxpayers.
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Hardtack_dev4 days ago
+53
You have to spend money to lose money
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Repave23484 days ago
+23
With that sort of thinking, if you're not careful, you will be called up for White House duty any day now.
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Nearbyatom4 days ago
+28
There is no going back to pre-war status. Going back to pre-war status would raise the question of "wtf was all that for?" And if we go back to pre-war status, would most certainly mean the pedophile admits defeat and cannot get anything from Iran.
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MaybeOnToilet4 days ago
+16
Uh, global recession is already happening. The depth of it is unknown, as that part is reliant on how long the impacts are and if any other infrastructure is destroyed.
Some impacts are already priced in at taking years to recover. If you catch news from Asian countries and Australia, their economies are being devastated. Global recession is already here.
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ForsakenRacism4 days ago
+95
In fairness our military doesn’t sit around and do nothing when they aren’t deployed they drive and fly around every day
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BrightGreyEyes4 days ago
+57
They fly way more when deployed. Keeping everyone fed and the ships supplied with aviation fuel, jet parts, and everything else is expensive, especially when they're not going into port. The pay changes, and with where they're currently operating, none of their income is taxed. The area they're operating in is a presumptive toxic exposure location so down the line, the VA will automatically be on the hook for medical costs if anyone there right now develops any conditions from the list of conditions the government acknowledges might be caused by that exposure. Not to mention, the munitions they're using aren't exactly free, either.
I'm sure there's more, but those are the added costs I can think of off the top of my head
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Anfield_Cowboy4 days ago
+27
There is still an increased cost to deploy
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beekersavant4 days ago
+105
https://news.usni.org/2026/04/13/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-april-13-2026
These guys track them year round. It looks like they are spread out in the seas around Iran -not all clumped. This is a more naval and air power than is needed for a blockade.
The obvious assumption is this lets the US move a rapid invasion in place. It’s a lot of assets.
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Suecotero3 days ago
+28
A land invasion? With what army. Troop numbers in the region are around 30.000. The US invaded Iraq with 150.000 troops, and Iran is three times larger. The Bush admin lied through their teeth but they did recruit troops ahead of time. Trump hasn't prepared for anything and Iran knows it. If the US invades they will win through attrition. If the US doesn't invade they will eventually have to leave and Iran wins by default.
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mover9993 days ago
+23
All being paid for by American taxpayers
23
rhall6214 days ago
+318
Expensive way to make a point and drive oil prices up. Please end this Presidency - it will take decades to recover from this.
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Bestow50003 days ago
+171
One f****** man shouldn't be the reason he screws over the entire globe. The US is just a shit pile of this is the president they still support.
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Ecghteow3 days ago
+65
Problem is, it's not him alone...
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rhall6213 days ago
+32
Over 70% do not. The Republicans (including a number whose jobs will be over after November) are complicit in this continuing.
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tingulz4 days ago
+95
This will help unblock the straight. 🤦🏻♂️
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bad_kiwi20203 days ago
+28
Like putting superglue on the cork
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havocbyday4 days ago
+441
This is all so exhausting. America can't find money to fund healthcare or solve any number of critical affordability issues but we can find billions to start pointless wars. I'm not even sure who knows what's really going on here on a day to day basis given the constant conflicting reports.
Are we great again yet? JFC.
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The_Bitter_Bear4 days ago
+159
The healthcare part is extra dumb because we already pay more with the current system of private insurance.
We could cover everyone and pay less in taxes for it than we currently do.
Yet big business still loves to think it runs more efficient than government.
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Fresh_Boysenberry5764 days ago
+48
Yes but have you considered that if people pay more, the executives get bigger bonuses? You people always miss this in your 'oh why don't we give everyone free healthcare'. What, you think they should just buy a smaller yacht or something? Next thing you know, they won't be able to afford a 200 bedroom home. What would happen to America then?? /s
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The_Bitter_Bear4 days ago
+27
I always forget about them.
I guess I should look inward and reflect on why I have become so selfish and uncaring.
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unfortunatelyfriend4 days ago
+21
My personal motto is EATASS
Everyday Always Think About Shareholder Satisfaction
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unfortunatelyfriend4 days ago
+17
The way I pay $400+ a month to pay $60 when I see a specialist (and I have a corporate job).
Are we in hell?
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The_Bitter_Bear4 days ago
+8
It's awful. There's only been a few times in my life I felt I had decent insurance.
For the most part it's always been an insane amount of cost. It's wild you can pay thousands a month and STILL a medical emergency could ruin your finances.
8
printzonic4 days ago
+42
True, the US has the most expensive healthcare system in the world, and it is not even close.
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HarambeWest20204 days ago
+16
Because it’s a fleece industry and we’re the sheep
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Euphoric-Witness-8243 days ago
+43
Oh good. Gas is insanely expensive and property taxes get to keep rising. Thanks republicans!!
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Qimmosabe_Man4 days ago
+41
"I'm gonna force them to open the Strait of Hormuz for all ships, by blocking all the ships"
- trump's 5D chess.
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Separate-Maize99853 days ago
+75
It's going to be hard to balance two carriers on top of another one.
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Both-Counter40753 days ago
+11
But wait. Didn’t Trump just announce it was reopened?
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Stropi-wan3 days ago
+9
This is a man that can contradict himself in the same speech.
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Grogon24 days ago
+36
We need the Strait of Hormuz in Battlefield 6
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The_Istrix4 days ago
+27
Man, I can't help but wonder what constructive things my tax dollars could be doing instead
27
Correct-Extreme13433 days ago
+26
Anything for israel..nothing for us citizens
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IllDJeff3 days ago
+10
Open the strait you crazy bastards.
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VexedCanadian844 days ago
+126
Trump is really mad that he's not getting his share of the 2 million dollar fee Iran is charging
So mad, Trump is now wasting millions of dollars an hour.
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[deleted]4 days ago
+47
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Clear_Journalist_4844 days ago
+71
We could have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE with less money than we are spending to open the Strait of Hormuz (note- it was opened before this mess started)
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kazoxburner3 days ago
+15
" I don't want it closed so I will close it myself "
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bonitaycoqueta3 days ago
+15
My son’s deployment just got extended. F**k Trump, his administration and that Hegseth 🤡
15
Suguha_chan4 days ago
+42
Is this Star Wars
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Raise_A_Thoth4 days ago
+84
*The taxation of trade routes are in dispute.*
*Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly battleships, the greedy Trump Federation has stopped all shipping to the nation of Iran.*
*While the Congress of the United States endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, Donald Trump has secretly created many bizarre and sacraligious memes, and shares them online, in a desperate attempt to settle the conflict....*
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bunker9314 days ago
+23
\*StarWars theme song plays\*
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Snupzilla3 days ago
+6
I found a lot of the prequels political aspects ridiculous at the time. All that nonsense about trade routes and seeing people just accepting some weird obviously evil looking cartoon villain as their leader. I owe George Lucas an apology. He was just as much a visionary genius in ‘99 as he was in ‘77.
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WreckNTexan484 days ago
+28
Why brings so many assets into a bottle neck? That is in range of land based attacks?
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rhino3693 days ago
+29
They aren't. They'll stay outside the strait and radio ships passing into the straight before they get there "Hey you going to Iran, Y/N?"
And if they don't like answer they order them to turn around. If they don't listen you send a helicopter full of special forces to take the ship.
If they lie, you just catch them on the return trip.
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Propaslader3 days ago
+8
What if on the return trip they paint a disguise moustache on the bow
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Thunderlava3 days ago
+6
Seems like a recipe for disaster. Praying for those that are out there In Harm's Way for a senseless War.
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Traveladdict4203 days ago
+5
What a waste of US tax payer dollars. Happy tax day y’all.
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HellaTightHairCuts3 days ago
+6
$5 says the navy will collide with one of our own, as is tradition
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