US strikes military targets on Iran's Kharg Island, US official says

Trump has been wanting to get this island since 1988.  *I choose an issue. What would he do about Iran, for instance? ‘I’d be harsh on Iran. They’ve been beating us psychologically, making us look a bunch of fools. One bullet shot at one of our men or ships and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it. Iran can’t even beat Iraq, yet they push the United States around. It’d be good for the world to take them on.’* [source](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/12/polly-toynbee-1988-interview-donald-trump)

Generals keep telling Hegseth that going in on the ground with less than 200k troops and no international support is suicide. Pete keeps firing generals who say that.

People compare an invasion of Iran to Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam etc. but they’re wrong, it would be more akin to Ukraine and Russia now, and Russia has over a million casualties so far and over a 160,000 name linked KIA with 300,000 actually KIA estimated. All this in under five years This is MUCH different from Vietnam where the US lost some 50,000 KIA over the span of 20 years or Afghanistan with 20 some years and 2,400 dead. The drastic numbers difference is NOT because Ukrainians are somehow simply superior fighters than afghans or Vietnamese The primary difference is technology. Modern real time intel allows US intelligence to coordinate strikes with Ukraine positions in real time, AI can notice changes in pixelation that human eyes can’t and can analyze a tremendous amount of data in minutes that would have taken humans days or even weeks. Simple and c**** drone technology and advanced missile tech combined with real time intel allows much weaker forces to continue to fight and inflict casualties on stronger opponents. This was not possible until recently. There are only three countries with the necessary satellite infrastructure that can provide this ability: the US, Russia, and China. We see how effective it has been against Russia, and we see how Ukraine even after being decapitated is still able to find, target and destroy US interests. So, in conclusion. Not like Vietnam not like Iraq or Afghanistan, the US ground offensive in Iran would look more like the Russian ground offensive in Ukraine.

No I think he back down. The language makes me think he will. He’s trying to say he achieved regime change for the better so now he accomplished something and he won’t invade Iran.

Boots on the ground will result in more dead bodies and demoralized troops when Iran uses kids in the meat grinder.

Wasn’t the whole point of this to liberate the Iranian people 😏

if I had a nickel for every time trump has threatened to commit war crimes during my shifts, I'd have two nickels

I'm going to have a hard time sleeping tonight, we could be wiped out by morning if trump kicks off a nuclear exchange

I had to listen to him babble about how demented leaders shouldn't have nuclear weapons this morning and I almost spewed my coffee.

If he nukes Iran he’s even more desperate and stupid than I already thought he was

He’s calling for a revolution - hit the streets, Americans!

i would agree that options are limiited one of these are that congress may intervene where are the house republicans?

How can he TACO? He’s fucked

The US has been chuckling and giggling at Trump’s FA but everyone is going to feel it if he ever FOs.

He’s not, the TACO jokes are not funny anymore tbh

Well, he just got what he wanted, that's putting fear into others to have them doing what he wants. He's a life long rapist and pedophile

He literally can’t TACO out on this. Iran has an effective military and the ability to harm and disrupt the world’s economy however it wants to in the Middle East with no reason not to. Trump grabbed a p**** that grabbed back with Iran. About time.

I'm all in for a new Nuremberg based on the epstein files but, given what's globally going on, with rampaging technoligarchs and all, I'm afraid that's the smallest picture here

He didn't do this because of Epstein though. Israel nudged him and Russia too probably, And he and his friends have been making untold fortunes from this market manipulation Russia is laughing all the way to the bank with their sanctions lifted on oil. Israel is laughing as they get a free pass to commit war crimes trying to annex Lebanon with the US keeping Iran and the world distracted. Russia is laughing as their plans to weaken NATO are coming to fruition too

Mine went up 10 cents just in the time I was walking my dogs this morning.

But hey, at least the DOW is over 50….oh

You can't convince me that Putin didn't find a genie in a lamp. The entire Trump arc is the biggest gift to Putin in his lifetime. And it isn't even close to being spent.

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Cut Iran's cash flow

The idea behind seizing the island is one of leverage. It’s the only place in Iran with a harbor deep enough to dock supertankers. Iran needs Kharg island and its infrastructure intact if it wants the money to rebuild when this is over.  If the US takes it intact then it can be traded back to Iran in return for greater concessions in the peace deal. Iran would have to go with what the US says or the facilities on the island would be destroyed. If this happens then Iran would only be able to export oil on small ineffective tankers, cutting 90% of their oil exports. Irans only option would be to take on massive foreign loans to rebuild, and even then it would take years to get the island running again, during which they will be completely broke and unable to rebuild much else. They may chose to negotiate to prevent that.

Deplorables was always an accurate description, she just said the quiet part out loud.

Wrong. She said only half of Trump Supporters were deplorable. That's a gross underestimate.

I'm not privy to the email lady. Care to elaborate?

email lady or buttery males?

yeah well turns out you actually tend to be right about a lot of stuff when you’re highly educated and have tons of experience. but, hey, who could have ever known that?

Nah, "basket of deplorables" was too mild.

They'd never arrest a sitting President, no matter who it is. Don't forget the SC ruling as well.

SCOTUS would rule that everything in the Epstein files were all retroactively official presidential acts and covered by immunity. Shadow docket of course, so there would be no actual ruling to dissect.

I said this already elsewhere, but it's forever going to be an indictment of our species that the child r*** wasn't enough.

For the first time?

Skyrocketing prices and shortages of literally everything. But this is what the sober minded and wise Trump voters demanded.

Bombing the middle East over and over again and expecting different results?

The new definition of insanity is putting a sociopathic child rapist as head of state. Twice.

And sadly here we are with Artemis exploring and Trump destroying. Kind of the proof.

that was just a "partial obliteration"

The Iranian prob has rebuild and resupply the island after that

Not a soul will do anything

I'd say spending billions to make *hundreds* of billions. Death and destruction are just (to their mind) necessary side effects.

The government uses our tax money to contract with private weapons dealers that they’re in bed with. Every weapons manufacturer makes billions and gives kickbacks and “gifts” to the government. The average American citizens are the ONLY ones who get fucked by wars

I called my reps. None of their offices answered. Left voicemails but I doubt they will listen.

I did the same this morning. I hope there are many more of us.

Where the f*** is congress‽ what the f***

Because Israel tricked dimwitted Trump into it.

He just TACO'd his genocide for the standard Trump 'two weeks' (which equals forever in human years). Time for him to pivot to more "Where's my Nobel Prize?" whining.