US Supreme Court rejects Massachusetts school gender-identity policy challenge

It must be crazy to watch your parents struggle and fail to sue your middle school when you’re halfway finished with high school

Meanwhile who remembers back when we were in school and were asked "Let me know if you go by a nickname or any other name and I'll use that" on the first day of school? Just call people what they wish to be called.

I went to school in the 90s and this was so commonplace even then. Guy in my class went by billy at home but asked to he called Bill or William in school to sound more mature. I went by middle name at home and first name in school. Had a female friend whose name I honestly forget (it was something very feminine) and she insisted on being called a different men’s name. Afaik she wasn’t trans or even queer at all, just a personal preference. None of these examples caused any problem 25 years ago in a conservative area of the south.

We should really have some kind of tracker for 'x dollars wasted is stupid lawsuits'. I bet these guys are well into the millions.

All because people view their children as their property. 

The ramifications of this logic is soooo bad too, just think about it for a second. A kid tells his teacher, in confidence, "hey I use this other name with my peers. But don't tell my parents because .... " Well f****** think about it y'all, because their parents are literally not safe people for them to talk to about this. Or maybe because they're not 100% sure and don't want to have their parents know yet? These laws LITERALLY require schools to tell parents something their kid told them in private, that could potentially get them hurt, and for what? Also, the laws technically require you to inform parents of every nickname. As in Tom vs thomas. As in "actually I got by Jr" or by their middle name or anything else. And literally ALL because the right can't stop being obsessed with hating gay and trans people I substituted a few years ago, in a very progressive college town, over the year with lots of classes k-12, prob 1000 students at least by the end, there were literally two kids this applied to. One was a little trans girl wearing a dress, I read the list of names, someone corrected me and said "oh that's Gracie actually she's a girl" or something like that, looked up and saw a kid in a skirt, wrote the other name and moved on. Literally NONE of the kids cared, everything about the day was normal. And another time a young girl I think was kinda non-binary, dressed very plain and wanted to go by "pat" or "Sam" or another gender neutral name. Like, two kids in a thousand or so want a different name at school. And i did the terrible awful horrible thing of crossing out their legal name and writing what they asked me to and calling them that. Along with all the Alexander's that are Alex, the Thomas that's Tom, etc, because there's way more of those changes needed on the attendance sheet. But yes, the left is clearly indoctrinating kids by giving them the basic respect of using the name and pronoun they tell us. My God. "But maybe they'll grow out of it!" Cool ok maybe i don't really give a shit either way, let them figure it out.

Wait what? Maybe I'm just tired So student wants to be called A at.school and B at home and the parents are upset the school called them A? Am I understanding that right

Actually the supreme court declined to hear this case. That means there is no ruling on this from the Supreme Court. I’m no legal scholar, but if I had to guess they refused to take this case because in might have affected laws in other states.

I mean at that point they might as well sue the other students for using nicknames too.

And I would have to bet that had this been about the school violating the parents religious rights and not about "medical" gender care they probably would have won in the Supreme Court

What an enormous waste of the court system’s time and money.

Reminder that these same people want to ban all medical care for trans people, both kids and adults, and consider anything not strictly cisnormative to be medical care. Names, pronouns, clothing, etc. Simply existing as a trans person is 'pornographic' and deserves imprisonment. They literally wrote the Project 2025 manifesto that virtually all republican politicians are currently following. It's always been about genocide but they know that word has bad PR so they take the classicaly conservative "we don't condone [human rights violation], we just support states rights!" Conservative politics have destroyed this country but the voterbase is so blinded by dogma, selfishness, and/or ego they'll never recognize the harm they're doing.

Because some people value their ideology more than their own kids.

My kid started high school telling almost every teacher a different preferred name. We only found out when she said 'good luck at conferences' and we had to make a spreadsheet lol

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My niece goes by like 3 or 4 different variations of her name. I dont even think she chose the names. My sister, her aunt, just called her Millie on her own. Liv for another. Then her full name. And probably a 4th idk about.

This also makes me think of in language classes, sometimes the teachers would make us pick a french name or a spanish name to go by. The names didn't have to be related to your real name, so it could be any name that originates in that language. Like I went by Elodie in 7th grade french class... my real name sounds nothing like Elodie lmao and my parents never knew. who cares.

If people don't have issues with someone named William going by Will or Susan going by Sue, they should have no issues with other names. Transgender or otherwise.

>alleging Ludlow's use ​of gender-affirming pronouns or ⁠a gender-affirming name suffices to state a **claim that the school provided medical treatment to the student.** Following this logic, using *anyone's* "gender-affirming" names & pronouns by teachers or administration should constitute a HIPAA violation.

ideology over all

"Why won't me kids talk to me anymore?! It must be that new liberal WOKE college she's going to!"

If they were the sort of people who could ask themselves such questions, they wouldn't need to.

>Good parents would’ve taken this opportunity to become introspective and figure out why their child felt like they could trust their teachers more than themselves. You largely answered that yourself. Parents that are so enraged over this are almost certainly evangelicals. And, of course, most LGBT (but especially T) kids trust virtually ANYONE more with their own evangelical parents to come out to. If a child feels this way, you can assume their parents are NOT “good parents” and likely not the introspective type.

I hope someone lights a bag of dog shit on their doorstep and rings the bell lol.  What useless existences they lead.

Didn’t you know, this is the healthiest way to approach the situation. I mean, the school brainwashed the kid clearly. The parents told their kid to not be themself (totally normal) but they insist that being themselves at school and being open about it like it is ok (talk about indoctrination!)

Some people are simply neurologically incapable of self reflection. They're known as conservatives.

and they'll still be narcissistic enough to blame anything and anyone except themselves when it happens

they're probably Mormon or Christian fundamentalists so they'll probably cutoff contact with their child on their own if they don't turn to God and rehabilitate themselves to Jesus's strict vision of them.

I told a guy he probably hasn't tied his bathrobe since his kids stopped visiting and he got real mad.

> Why is this a huge debate?! "Are traps gay?" - 4chan circa, 2010's Trap, meaning a person who is feminine, and was born male. Eventually they turn to trans women, they incorporate them into the discussion. Is liking a trans woman gay? Ideological lines are drawn and people are willing to back their thought with action. Putting a fascist into office.

If I were this kid, I would be asking the courts for emancipation from their parents.

That’s why people need to RTFA before they smash out some shitpost while on the toilet.

“Poopy Buttface” ? Of the Connecticut Buttfaces?

She’s too young for that! She can only go by her middle name when she’s in her mid twenties and trying to reinvent herself 😜

As a teacher . . . this is already happening. Not driven by schools themselves, but by newly passed anti-queer state laws. To follow both state law and school policy, I can't use nicknames at all without written permission from the parents.

I wonder how often my mother wonders about me. I wonder about her, and I occasionally discuss the the consequences of my decision with my friends. I frequently dread the day I will learn about her death. But that's the price I pay to prevent her from learning about mine.

There was a kid in my 4th grade class that went by Taco. Everyone (teachers included) just called him Taco. I don’t even recall anyone even questioning it.

Exactly the same thing we did with our daughter. One month she was trans and wanted to go by a different name and gender. Next month she was just pan and wanted a different name. In the end, she's back to using her birth name and female pronouns. I went through the same thing as a teen but it was dying my hair and getting pierced. By the time I graduated highschool I'd removed all my piercings and just had natural hair color. I never even got a tattoo. My parents let me get all that out of my system early and I personally think it helped me be more professional in adulthood.

It's not as big as it sounds. Rejecting to hear a case does not set precedent.

You are mistaken. This is not a ruling. They are declining to hear the case.

Declining to hear a case does not set precedent. This is not a ruling The 1st Circuit Court for Appeals sets precedent in the 1st Circuit only, which is Maine, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Puerto Rico. The 1st Circuit is already progressive as these states are pretty progressive, and the 1st Circuit is under Justice Kentanji Brown Jackson It's a pretty limited win that only applies to 4 states and 1 territory

Gotta have a handful of these rulings so they can act like it’s balanced when they issue 10 rulings that are insane

Yeah, they seem to be riding this weird line of “gender affirming medical care is a no-no, and we won’t respect trans people in sports, but Idgaf if someone wants a different name”

Meanwhile we have “Ted” Cruz , “J.D. Vance” neither of which were born with those names. And others. But continue to support legislation that SHOULD include them in who it affects.

Or children, given the number of kids they've gotten shot at schools.

But then TLC would run out of programming!