I won’t lie I’m kind of shocked it lasted this long
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thefoodiedentist5 days ago
+634
Considering 48+ immigrants died in custody since 2025, they werent even doing anything anyway.
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Grazgri5 days ago
+556
They are the reason we know of these deaths. Without them, numbers like these wouldn't be public. These groups have not failed us, we have failed them by not acting despite the clear evidence of abuse from this administration.
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Foreign-Shift38375 days ago
+117
We only actually know because families are and have actually started to come forward.
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aerost0rm5 days ago
+7
With independent news outlets picking up the stories. The MM then has to pick it up simply because the little guy will get the revenue if they don’t.
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Cl1mh4224rd5 days ago
+121
>Considering 48+ immigrants died in custody since 2025, they werent even doing anything anyway.
You're assuming they have the authority to enforce anything.
It's a watchdog group. They're basically just formalized informants or whistleblowers.
The only power they have is to report their findings to actual authorities.
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Elegant_Situation2855 days ago
+25
collecting evidence...although i have no idea how much access they had.
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aerost0rm5 days ago
+4
And those actual authorities are the same people committing the atrocities. This is why the media, paired with the families are the ones actually releasing info
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KingRBPII5 days ago
+7
Who will take a stand?
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RipplesInTheOcean5 days ago
+9
Bro thinks theyre *actual* dogs who "watch" , and if the dogs see abuse they use their super dog powers to save the migrants
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Thirty_Helens_Agree5 days ago
+2
I’m surprised it existed at all.
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SnooPets18265 days ago
+895
We're going to find a lot of unmarked mass graves in the coming decades...
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Im_not_an_admin5 days ago
+570
People think you're joking. There's already r*** and murder being reported.
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datpiffss5 days ago
+285
This is the logical conclusion of dehumanization.
They’re not people, so it’s ok to r*** them because they exist to be used by us humans. They’re like cattle which serves a purpose.
Once cattle that is used for milk can no longer produce milk we cannot waste resources keeping them alive. So we must kill them, because they’re a drain, they don’t have the same rights as humans.
It’s how it always goes and I’m just shaking my head at the great embarrassment of my lifetime.
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A_Nonny_Muse5 days ago
+48
There was once a mid ranking Nazi who prevented a whole lot of rapes by claiming Jews were animals, so it was beastiality. He tried to get Nazi rapists charged with beastiality. The Jews were still killed, or worked to death, but he did prevent a lot of r***. Kind of a blursed situation.
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omgmypony5 days ago
+22
I wonder if he did this out of some twisted sort of kindness or if he was a true believer
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A_Nonny_Muse5 days ago
+8
From what I read, I'm guessing he just wanted to prevent rapes, but couldn't prevent any of the rest. I could be wrong, though.
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+35
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datpiffss5 days ago
+42
They didn’t make AG-Gag laws because people would get pissed off at the luxury living spaces of chickens and pigs.
We however justify that because we like to eat meat and have a population that was once considered over the earths carrying capacity.
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Decent-Law-95655 days ago
+9
I'd argue it is still over the carrying capacity but we're just juicing it with hundreds of millions of years' combined energy output (fossil fuels) and once it becomes much harder to get them then the problems will start. Imagine if the dinosaurs could use oil, they might have had a chance against the meteor
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datpiffss5 days ago
+13
That was exactly my point. Petro based fertilizers were a huge revolution in terms of farming outputs.
Also, please give me what you are smoking because that’s a fun idea but completely bat shit insane. The meteor was so big that it wasn’t the impact but rather the dust it kicked up which led to mass extinction.
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A_Nonny_Muse5 days ago
+3
Turns out, it's all a matter of efficiency. If we were to implement all the best technology we have today - no need to invent anything more than we already have - we could indefinitely sustain a population at least 4X more than we have today. That's to say, we could sustain a population greater than 32 billion people indefinitely. At a standard of living currently enjoyed by your average Western European (think France, Spain, England, Germany, etc.). Not that we actually need that many people. But we could, if we had to..
What would it take for the world to become that efficient? A complete socio-economic reorganization and at good hundred years of rebuilding our civilization from the ground up.
Edit: all the unsustainable population conclusions we read about are almost always conclusions based on the current socio-economic structure we use today. Which is extremely inefficient and actively prevents the use of far more efficient technologies/methods.
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max1232465 days ago
+5
Yes. It is really bad. And it's why you shouldn't eat meat if you'd like to do real good in this world. It's one of the single most ethically impactful decisions you can make. Almost every other thing we have little control over at this point as our rights are stripped away
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yamiyaiba5 days ago
+2
Well, it's kind of hard to dehumanize non-human animals, so....not for the reasons you're implying, no. Plenty of other reasons, yes, but not that.
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wafflenova985 days ago
+4
> They’re not people, so it’s ok to r*** them because they exist to be used by us humans.
Which is kind of like they're saying they're cool with bestiality and shit too.... but I'm guessing they're not intelligent enough to realize that.
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kstargate-4255 days ago
+83
Theres r*** and murder being [REPORTED and the DHS has ignored them!!](https://www.newsweek.com/congress-sexual-assault-immigration-detention-centers-homeland-security-751986)
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parabostonian5 days ago
+45
Christ, that’s a dark story. And that was in the last Trump admin; there’s every reason to think it’s worse now.
“ According to CIVIC, Homeland Security received a total of 33,126 complaints of sexual and/or physical abuse from January 2010 to July 2016. Of those, only 225—.07 percent—have been investigated.
Three-fourth of these complaints were levied against Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CPB) officers and personnel.”
Those numbers are insane
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kstargate-4255 days ago
+24
Thanks, I posted the wrong link as I meant to link to the [Senate report headed by Jon Ossoff with 1000 human rights abuses and many sexual assault claims since Trump got back in office](https://www.ossoff.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/260114_Report_Patterns_v5.pdf) last year. There was also a news story on Dilley or some other facility that the women reported directly to the DHS abuse line and they ignored them but I cant find that now for some reason.
With the watchdog agency being shuttered and near 100,000 people stuck in these inhumane conditions its only going to get infinitely worse.
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The_1ndiegamer5 days ago
+22
Not to mention underage pregnancies in said detention centers...
It's vile
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Im_not_an_admin5 days ago
+7
In this administration that probably has KPIs
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA5 days ago
+21
How many prisoners "went missing" from Alligator Auschwitz?
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Thirty_Helens_Agree5 days ago
+2
Yup. They want to stop the reporting.
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herrcollin5 days ago
+51
Don't worry, many are being sold- I mean- *legally deported* to entirely different countries. So it's just not America's problem!
Like when corporations move their HQ's to a different country for legal loopholes, but instead of evading taxes we're straight up trafficking and disappearing people.
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Consistent-Throat1305 days ago
+7
When you say "sold" but the deal somehow ends up with the US paying the other country **and** giving them the ~~slave~~ deportee.
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Duchess06125 days ago
+34
Then we will have to take the next page out of Germany’s history book…
The Great Apology page.
I hate everything about this.
Addendum:
And when we do, we need to take the other page as well, The Great Witnessing page: Ensuring that three-time MAGA voters are present, witnessing and experiencing the reality of what they asked for - maybe we can even have some camps for them, so they can gather around as all of the evidence gets collected and reviewed.
If not camps, maybe those nice arenas - filled with all the same people who filled them before.
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ianc12155 days ago
+17
That's sort of like the people who say school shootings aren't real and are false flags. The same with people who said covid was a hoax and such.
My solution, make them bury the dead. Hand them a shovel and say "well it's a hoax then it shouldn't take too long to do will it?"
Having to stare down the reality of something in your face changes how you feel about it. It's easy for a keyboard warrior who has never seen the inside of a detention center to dismiss it since Trump says it's all fine. But when you have the remains of a person in front of you that changes things.
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Brother_J_La_la5 days ago
+3
That's a great plan, but they aren't going down without a fight, and that's troubling.
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Snuffy17175 days ago
+2
Then it’s a fight worth winning against them.
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espinaustin4 days ago
+1
We will be lucky to get a sweep it under the rug page.
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Dantes_465 days ago
+15
They are buying up incinerators from what I hear, the people they murder in those places won’t even get graves.
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alexmartinez_magic5 days ago
+2
Nobody getting buried. They will be incinerated
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Bigred2989-5 days ago
+2
We might even find some furnaces and gas chambers, too.
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Common-Ad-65824 days ago
+1
Agreed I have been saying the same thing for a while. It is inevitable given the scale of these centres, the scale of the budget I’ve has with no accountability, the lack of hiring standards, their secrecy and the brutal permission structure of impunity created from the top. This will be one of the biggest scandals of the 21st century.
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gwazmalurk5 days ago
+159
We have to have a collective vision of how our institutions will look when we rethink them and rebuild them after this scourge passes. And it won’t pass passively.
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+41
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Long-Education-77485 days ago
+1
It won't change until things get materially worse for a larger margin of people. Even then it may not change. But currently there isn't enough public will or organization to fight for the necessary changes.
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Danktizzle4 days ago
+3
We are miles from the end of this scourge. And it’s only going to get worse.
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Common-Ad-65824 days ago
+1
Sadly I agree
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Tzazon5 days ago
+105
The current situation is dire, it's like taking a bulldozer to a china shop. The malice is intentional, and even if a blue wave were to happen taking back the senate/house, and you get a Democrat who campaigned on rebuilding getting two solid terms, they might not be able to completely rebuild everything that was lost with a judicial branch working against them.
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Feisty_Blood_60365 days ago
+21
Get the right mandate and the courts don’t matter.
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wyvernx025 days ago
+13
It's going to take at least 50 years to fix what has been broken in the last 17 months, assuming there is enough will to actually get things fixed.
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MithrandirMaia5 days ago
+130
Only need to do this if your are known for abuse and plan to continue that policy ... Evil only thrives when good people fail to stand up to it...ICE killing immigrants in detention is evil
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McCrackenYouUp5 days ago
+52
Oh shit well in some places they don't feed them at all, so giving them moldy food is perfectly fine!
Whataboutism at it's finest.
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Northern-Canadian5 days ago
+41
“We’re less shit than these places”
Not the best argument.
Perhaps they were less shit because of oversight/policies. Removing that allows bad eggs to flourish.
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ScrewAttackThis5 days ago
+41
Bud, we have laws governing how we treat people in custody
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Georgie_Leech5 days ago
+7
That's the best part, now it can just be *assumed* they're being followed instead of checking and finding out that obviously they're not.
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ManBearHybrid5 days ago
+3
Do you realise you're arguing for the removal of a human rights watchdog? The people who make sure your laws are followed? Take a step back for a second and think about what you're actually advocating for.
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Ayzmo5 days ago
+15
Australia treats deportees much better. More people died in ICE custody in 2025 than died in 17 years of Australian Border Force custody.
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Greyboxer5 days ago
+42
In a better world, the watchdog office would be shutting down the federal detention centers for the abuses
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kstargate-4255 days ago
+20
Next you are going to tell me Trump put a far-right anti-Civil Rights bigot in charge of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division...oh wait, he already did that...
Whenever you think Trump and this regime have hit their low they tell you to hold their beer and double down 😒
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ZachMN5 days ago
+18
Republicanism is fascism.
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My_alias_is_too_lon5 days ago
+13
... they don't even try to pretend they're not corrupt racist shit-heads...
I hate this...
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adapark5 days ago
+10
77.3 million trump voters voted for this abuse.
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June_Fatality5 days ago
+9
Thank a trump voter. They wanted people to suffer and die, and that's exactly what they got. Of course, if you point out all the blood on their hands, they'll screech "I didn't vote for this!" But they did. They are monsters in human skin, just saying whatever they think decent humans say.
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Herkfixer4 days ago
I dont know about how true that is. Usually when I point out the injustice and abuses they say "That's what I voted for, I'm glad hes doing it" while also saying "My Christian faith says abortion is a sin because life is precious."
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chefspork_5 days ago
+40
Need to free up some money for the ballroom.
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JoseSaldana65125 days ago
+15
The Epstein memorial ballroom with the Charlie Squirt fountain?
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Mfamos15 days ago
+1
Charlie Squirt 😂😂😂😂😂
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PetriDishCocktail5 days ago
+29
This is exactly what the Trump administration did during COVID. If you stop keeping track of numbers you don't know how many people get COVID and they can't blame you and you get to make wild claims.
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ro536ud5 days ago
+11
Stuff like this shaky is not be allowed. These groups exist for a reason. Should be mandated by law
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HobbesNJ5 days ago
+29
When the branch responsible for law enforcement is the one committing all the crimes, there is nobody to hold them accountable.
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Crim915 days ago
+2
> there is nobody to hold them accountable.
Well...not legally.
But functionally...people will still hold them accountable.
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boxdkittens5 days ago
-4
The people won't hold them accountable because a third of them want this and another third either don't care or somehow managed to convince themselves that not voting was the more moral decision.
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Crim915 days ago
+1
It only takes one person, or robot, or AI, or accident...
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kindnesskangaroo5 days ago
+1
If that were true it would've been Renee Good, or Alex Pretti. Both of those people were the epitome of the average American, but nothing changed. Americans are soulless cowards and the rest of the world is disgusted with them. So much for all of them saying they would never let something like the Holocaust happen again if it ever happened in their country, because it currently is but what are they doing? Slowly being starved to death and robbed by their own government while they cry about it on social media and sleep soundly while innocent children and people are being tortured, raped, and murdered in detention centers down the street.
Edit for any American that happens to read this: **no one is coming to save any of you.** Not your shitty democratic politicians who haven't done anything thus far and certainly not their opposition. Not your military, your law enforcement, other countries. The only people who can help each other and these people being tortured in your backyard is yourselves.
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AngryTree765 days ago
+11
“If we stop testing, then we won’t have so many cases.”
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MaximumJim_5 days ago
+6
That is following their plans of 1) Build the concentration camps and 2) Do away with anyone who might hear complaints about the concentration camps.
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KenUsimi5 days ago
+9
Problem: warning alarm keeps going off
Solution: take the alarm apart.
A WINRAR IS YUO!
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xValhallAwaitsx5 days ago
+10
What in the ever loving f*** are you doing America? I'd love for one of you to explain to me what you all plan on doing if/when your midterms are rigged/canceled, because at this point you have to be f****** naive if you think the Republicans are just going to allow themselves to be voted out
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FlowInternational9965 days ago
+4
nothing. Sit and embrace the collective delusion that it can’t possibly get that far, that the country hasn’t fundamentally and irrevocably changed permanently, and that the last 10 years have been a fever dream that can simply be woken out of in 2028.
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LittleKitty2355 days ago
+4
“If we just stop the testing the covid goes away”
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IUsedToBeThatGuy425 days ago
+8
Those pregnant children aren’t going to hide themselves. /s
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Detox2085 days ago
+7
Camps…. They are concentration camps
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rekage995 days ago
+9
Yep nothing to see here.
Next week they install industrial ovens in those camps i bet.
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Pillowsmeller185 days ago
+8
They are covering their tracks like those concentration camps by border patrol during the 1st presidency.
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A_Nonny_Muse5 days ago
+7
Maga big brain moment.
There can't be abuses if you're not looking at any.
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paolilon5 days ago
+3
WTF - the detainees are literally being raped.
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Kozmic_River5 days ago
+4
Yeah, and the Trump admin would rather blind and deafen the public than stop the r***. Considering our President was found liable for r*** *before* being elected office, this isn’t surprising, just morally reprehensible.
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Dirtybrd5 days ago
+6
Most nakedly corrupt administration in history.
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Megotaku5 days ago
+15
Establishment Democrats who want to bury the Trump administration's abuses so the wealthy can keep running out the back with our money need to be primaried. Participate in your district's primary process. Vote out establishment Democrats. We need fighters ready to punish this travesty.
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0zymandeus5 days ago
+5
Democrats successfully blamed for Republicans doing what they campaigned on doing, good work!
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FartPiano5 days ago
oh please, schumer has been such a trump toadie. they'll never back out of the iran war becsuse what israel wants is more important
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0zymandeus5 days ago
+1
That's right, Republicans do not possess agency or functioning brains. They cannot be held responsible for their own actions. Democrats must always be at fault even when they have no power.
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FartPiano5 days ago
+1
nobody is saying republicans are blameless. they want to elect democrats that will actually do something. Schumer is on record many times saying shit like:
> I have many jobs as a leader, and one is to fight for aid to Israel—all the aid that Israel needs
people would like a dem to get elected next time that might actually turn some of this around, vs the current ones who will doubtlessly continue blowing up the middle east
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PandaJesus5 days ago
+4
Seconded! If anything, your vote matters *more* in primaries, since fewer people bother to show up.
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GoggleDMara97565 days ago
+6
1000% especially in deep blue districts where the dem will win regardless, the primary is the most important!
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heathm555 days ago
+8
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons," --Fyodor Dostoevsky
"A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones" --Nelson Mandela
"The mood and temper of the public in regard to the treatment of crime and criminals is one of the most unfailing tests of the civilization of any country" --Winston Churchill
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PigFarmer15 days ago
+4
How convenient for the abusers...
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skag_boy875 days ago
+4
Third Reich to close watchdog office for concentration camp genocidal abuses.
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Dantes_465 days ago
+4
Can’t have any watchdog organizations peeking into the concentration camps they want to build all over the country I guess.
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Parking_Syrup_91395 days ago
+2
Just as surprised as when we find out about the mass murdering. Soo no surprised
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readysteadygogogo5 days ago
+2
Yeah…like if you just stop testing for Covid the numbers are gonna go way down.
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Trashy_Cappy4 days ago
+2
make no mistake, when we take this whole thing back and start opening these places up to daylight, we're going to find atrocities. we own that legacy, too now.
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o_julep5 days ago
+3
Disgusted. Not surprised, but disgusted.
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TheAskewOne5 days ago
+2
"If we stopped testing now, we’d have many fewer cases."
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Wraith88885 days ago
+3
We're at the point where towns near detention centers are wondering why ash has started falling from the sky?
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Ntroepy5 days ago
+3
This is reminiscent of Trump’s infamous Covid quote:
>”*If we stopped testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.*”
Similarly, if no one is monitoring immigration detention abuses, we won’t see any immigration detention abuses.
Which is actually pretty terrifying given how violent and undisciplined some ICe agents have been.
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mkawick5 days ago
+1
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CommanderKerensky4 days ago
+1
The U.S. taking notes from Israel. Can't assault or r*** your detainees with rules breathing down your neck.
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green_mist4 days ago
+1
I imagine they were really overwhelmed by the case load lately.
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Herkfixer4 days ago
+2
When you stop documenting abuses, there are no more abuses. Its simple.
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blankvoidoid5 days ago
+1
Thugs gotta thug, and proof needs to be hidden
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Strontiumdogs15 days ago
+1
Perfect, absolutely f****** perfect.
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data-atreides5 days ago
+1
I'm shocked to learn that it's been open all this time
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Toddcraft5 days ago
+1
No checks, no balances.
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redvsbluewarthog5 days ago
Nothing to see here folks
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bubba_bumble5 days ago
-1
It's not like it had any teeth to it anyway. Let's be honest, with this administration, watchdog agencies are just a facade.
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Armadilla-Brufolosa3 days ago
America, dominated by Israel, in my opinion, is increasingly becoming a nation of horrors.
I don't know if it's more dangerous to travel to America or the Middle East these days.
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