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News & Current Events May 5, 2026 at 8:24 AM

US tries to force open the Strait of Hormuz as the UAE comes under attack in a test of Iran truce

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US tries to force open the Strait of Hormuz as the UAE comes under attack in a test of Iran truce
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US tries to force open the Strait of Hormuz as the UAE comes under attack in a test of Iran truce
The U.S. military says it fired on Iranian forces and sank six small boats as it moved to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

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the_amazing_lee01 6 days ago +178
Weird that the AP is calling it a truce when the ceasefire extension wasn't even fully agreed to by Iran in the first place. Hopefully this stays contained to the Strait and doesn't escalate further.
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beluga1968 5 days ago +6
If this keeps up, the lack of oil, LNG and fertilizer will lead to conflicts elsewhere in the world.
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008Zulu 6 days ago +600
Trump is all about trying to force things open.
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aradraugfea 6 days ago +84
Maybe if he ate some f****** celery he wouldn’t have to force so hard.
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byerss 6 days ago +68
He was talking about the r***. 
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stevez_86 6 days ago +25
Remember all of the criminal profiling shows in the 2010's? Man, we were given as entertainment the tools we should use to interpret the actions and motivations of this guy, and we have collectively forgotten about those tools. Just go back and watch Criminal Minds of Mindhunter and then the news and its like, holy shit, we are under the control of a rapist domestic abuser whose abused spouse has returned to. And we are the abused spouse's kids from another father. Of course he is going to abuse us for fun, beat our mother, and saddle her with insurmountable debt, all the while cheating and raping at their leisure. We were accidentally given popular media that was actually relevant, and we missed it, we forgot about it. Or we didn't and people will think this will make the next season even more interesting. Like a choose your own adventure, but with real life and we still keep choosing the dramatic options for fun.
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jureeriggd 6 days ago +17
No, pretty much everyone is aware of what's going on, it's just that 1/3rd of the country was duped into allowing it in exchange for being able to "mask-off" when it came to their particular bigotries. Another 1/3rd came up with various excuses about why they weren't going to vote or why they were voting in protest to not prevent this from happening. The last 1/3rd swallowed their pride, voted for the person that WASN'T going to do this, and are now left feeling hopeless, because everything they said was going to happen is happening and everyone is STILL telling them they're overreacting.
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Eighthfloormeeting 6 days ago +5
It’s crazy that 1/3 has that much power in the greatest democracy in the world or something something
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MirrorComputingRulez 6 days ago +5
They don't. 2/3 do.
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Albadia408 6 days ago +3
I think we pushed the 'greatest democracy' bit because we took too much credit for being early adopters, and not enough for doing it right.
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yamirzmmdx 6 days ago +34
Like some sort of thing that starts with a r.
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garbagegoat 6 days ago +35
Russy? Ragina? Runt? 
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guaztronaut 6 days ago +80
You okay Scoobs?
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Consistent-Throat130 6 days ago +8
Ruh Roh, Rhaggy
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Annual-Reason2970 6 days ago +7
Operation E***** Service, someone is getting screwed.
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GetsBetterAfterAFew 6 days ago +2
Youre absolutely right, no joking around, this is rapist mentality.
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-TheExtraMile- 6 days ago +4
Rename it to the Gay of Hormuz and he might back off
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cwatson214 6 days ago +2217
This is great. Now American taxpayers are paying for something that was 100% free a couple months ago. Thanks so much, everyone who stayed home...
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SuccessionWarFan 6 days ago +339
*Now American taxpayers are paying for something that was 100% free a couple months ago.* Non-American here. It’s something the **entire world** is now paying for, given the oil price increases. You can also include fertilizers. Trump and Netanyahu have made their problems the entire world’s problems as well.
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downloads-cars 6 days ago +102
The part that makes me the most upset is how brainwashed society must be at this point to not realize it's all by design. This is very clearly a concerted effort to extract wealth from people and it's working flawlessly. Trump is not an idiot. He might have dementia, he may be intolerable, he certainly diddles children, but he's been a class A gifter for his entire life. It's natural for him to squeeze blood from a stone.
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binzersguy 6 days ago +34
Some people aren’t even the least bit mad. It’s wild.
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sirbassist83 6 days ago +36
ive got a friend who voted for trump 3 times. he lives in corpus christi, which is running out of water. hes got 2 young children. last time i talked to him, we discussed the state of the world, broadly, and he basically said "i go to work and take care of my kids and dont have time to be informed anymore, but as far as im concerned everything is ok and it will all work out fine. i think people are overreacting" i use to consider him one of my best friends but ive withdrawn a lot in the last year or so. i think hes a good dad and generally a kind and empathetic person, but his optimism is delusional. im sure there are a bunch of people like him.
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AuroraFinem 5 days ago +8
Mate, Trump is a marvelous grifter, but that takes narcissism not intelligence. As long as you can take advantage of someone else’s good faith without blinking an eye you can grift. Grifters aren’t elaborate scheme makers, they look for the dumb or vulnerable to take advantage of. Trump is not playing 5D chess to grift money, he’s doing it right out in the open tweeting about it. Republicans in congress and SCOTUS are just complicit. Why would you jump to master manipulation behind the scenes to make a quick buck when they are openly making billions right in front if our eyes without going to war with anyone. We’re talking about someone who fired his general manager running a successful c***** for saying no to his suggestions then proceeded to bankrupt a c***** in a matter of months. This wasn’t just once, either, twice were exactly the same scenario though under a different roof.
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a34fsdb 6 days ago +11
Trump is an idiot. 
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santamaria715 5 days ago +8
It is riling me up a lot how egocentric Americans are. Many still seem completely oblivious to what chaos this BS has brought to countries on the opposite side of the globe . (NZ here), and yes our gas prices started going up immediately. I just bought a bicycle as I expect we might have carless days soon (we did in the 1970s) and possibly no gas at all. Sort out your shit, USA.
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Tje199 6 days ago +41
Incredible how Americans can't comprehend that this is a global problem they've created, that affects more than just them. And literally any conversation you try to have with them about it returns to them trying to center themselves as victims in the situation.
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IMOBY_Edmonton 6 days ago +9
Goes tot show how they would either be okay or apathetic with the whole situation if it didn't affect them.
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NiteOwl421 6 days ago +10
Oh some of us can, the third of us who voted for Kamala understand exactly what was created on our behalf.
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celtekk_ 5 days ago +4
Incredible how anyone outside of America lumps all Americans together, as if we all wanted this to happen. Kick rocks.
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cstough 5 days ago +3
Maybe now that he's becoming a global problem, Americans can finally ask non Americans why they aren't doing anything about him? 🤣
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DownhillUphill 6 days ago +164
We have morons running this country
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Fluffy_Top6837 6 days ago +84
and pedophiles! Don't forget the pedophiles!
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JankyTundra 6 days ago +32
dont leave out convicted felons!
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quacainia 6 days ago +17
*intentionally malicious people Whether they're smart or not doesn't play into the fact that they are consciously and willingly doing all this shit, and saying only that they're morons diminishes that malicious intent.
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DownhillUphill 6 days ago +3
Good point
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binzersguy 6 days ago +1
Everyone’s saying it!
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[deleted] 6 days ago +413
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an-invisible-hand 6 days ago +60
Meanwhile in real life: Latinos and young men. It’s much easier to fight phantoms and scream Israel/Palestine than confront the complex and tricky subject of Latinos and young men switching to the Republican Party en masse and how to win them back. Nobody seems to want to touch either of those with a 10 foot pole even though it’s what cost her the election by far if we’re actually talking votes and not memes and vibes.
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elfescosteven 6 days ago +26
The fact that guys at work were banding together to bet and win money on Trump winning was a very sad moment. They were convincing guys who were undecided to join them to ensure they all won money.
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an-invisible-hand 6 days ago +16
Yep. I work a blue collar industry and all the young guys flipped for trump out of f****** nowhere. The million dollar question is why. I never really got a catch-all answer, but I can say for a fact none of them gave a single f*** about Palestine.
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doneandtired2014 6 days ago +17
>Yep. I work a blue collar industry and all the young guys flipped for trump out of f****** nowhere. It didn't come out of nowhere. Many are MAGA, they just have enough situational and social awareness to know openly supporting Mr "I r*** kids and immigrants are poisoning are blood" would be detrimental to their standing with their colleagues. The rest are as innumerate as they are illiterate because they heard "No tax on overtime" and "lower taxes on capital gains" and thought that their paychecks would magically grow. Ever wanted to know who would be dumb enough to fall for obvious scams? Congrats, you now know who the easy marks are.
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Efficient_Market1234 6 days ago +7
> Ever wanted to know who would be dumb enough to fall for obvious scams? Congrats, you now know who the easy marks are. And Republicans/MAGA/Trump takes advantage of this. They very much recognize that their voting base isn't just dumb enough to vote away their own rights and livelihood but to even hand over wads of cash for additional scams. There are people on those catfish videos online who you know are just going to be scammed again and again and again. They've sometimes gone from one romance scam to another to another to another. And every time, I'm like, "no need to tell me who *you* voted for." They hand over all of their money to strange men in Nigeria who verbally abuse them and just put all their trust in Trump and god to take care of everything. >they heard "No tax on overtime" and "lower taxes on capital gains" and thought that their paychecks would magically grow Even the "no tax on overtime" thing was just on the overtime pay itself and over a certain number of hours or something (?). I forget. But the way they were talking about it, they were going to get thousands of dollars out of it. There was that woman quoted in an article recently (posted to LAMF? I don't know) who was upset that she still wasn't getting her entire paycheck. She apparently thought that she wasn't going to just get a tax *break* but never pay any taxes at all. She apparently has no earthly idea how anything she wants to use or benefit from is funded.
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doneandtired2014 6 days ago +7
>They very much recognize that their voting base isn't just dumb enough to vote away their own rights and livelihood but to even hand over wads of cash for additional scams. I mean, this is a group of people who equate literacy, numeracy, actual peer reviewed medicine, and actual peer reviewed science with being "liberal". They aren't just stupid, they are *maliciously* stupid. They revel in it. Being an unrepentant dumbass is a badge of honor, something to be proud of because it means they aren't "woke". At the same time, they are the most intellectually insecure whoresons to have been pushed out of a birth canal. They feel personally attacked when all of the shit they refused to learn or spent considerable effort unlearning refutes whatever nonsensical bullshit they've decided will be they hill the die on. Which is horrible in and of itself but it gets worse when one considers they are not content to just be maladjusted morons. No, they have to destroy facts and discovery at their sources because their simple little brains have just enough folds to recognize both as threats to their egos. These people would drag us back to the goddamn dark ages for nothing beyond spite and pride. >Even the "no tax on overtime" thing was just on the overtime pay itself and over a certain number of hours or something (?). I forget That itself had caveats and the f****** morons we both work with were very, very keen to overlook them. No tax on OT has a long list of who does and doesn't qualify for that tax break based entirely on their industry, their position, and what they are classified as. Something that will shock literally no one who can read above the 4th grade, *most* hourly positions do not qualify for that tax break. And the most f****** frustrating part of that is trying to explain that to the disphit collective and being told, "Well, Trump said"... Yes, a conman who is such a pathological liar his entire team of attorneys had to be present at all times when trying to represent him because he was known for lying to them individually is clearly on the up and up and his (poorly spoken) promises clearly carry far more weight than what the actual text of the f****** tax bill says. F*** man, we have truly done a disservice to ourselves protecting these imbeciles from themselves for the last 40+ years. At any other point in our history, they would have self eliminated through their arrogance and their own breathtaking incompetence in everything they do beyond occupying space and consuming resources.
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lab-gone-wrong 6 days ago +7
>the complex and tricky subject of Latinos and young men switching to the Republican Party en masse and how to win them back. If the threat of mass deportations and denaturalization against immigrants, illegal or not, didn't turn them off then I don't know what will. There simply isn't much to analyze here.
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statslady23 6 days ago +7
We lost Latinos a long time ago, although the attacks on the Pope and subtle threats against his life might not sit well with some. It's the whole machismo bs. We need to concentrate on our old, reliable friends who are being actively disenfranchised as we speak and labor. Honestly, running on better border security and prosecuting employers of illegal workers and mandatory e-verify would probably help the Dems. 
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KDR_11k 5 days ago +5
> Honestly, running on better border security and prosecuting employers of illegal workers and mandatory e-verify would probably help the Dems. They tried that before, it didn't work. Voters who want that will either see it as validating the Republicans' demands for even more of it or will just ignore that the Dems did anything like that while the Dems alienate people who don't want that. You will not win that messaging war, no matter what. It's important to remember that moving towards the center is not a free action, the Dem leadership may think anyone to the left of the center is a guaranteed vote for them anyway and doesn't need to be pandered to (kinda like states always vote one way) but they are forgetting that these groups can be demoralized and deenergized which will depress their turnout.
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Upstairs_Eagle_4780 6 days ago +2
Why did this happen?
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ScienceWilly 6 days ago +14
Lots of younger men have poor job prospects and aren't getting laid. They're angry and easily seduced by the fantasy that they can go back to the "good old days" when they didn't have to compete with women for jobs and every man was assigned a personal sex & domestic slave.
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Efficient_Market1234 6 days ago +8
I've been looking at the data on gender and race in college degrees lately (not for fun, it's for a thing) and women have outnumbered men in degrees for decades, with the gap projected to continue for years. This is well-known stuff--I didn't discover anything, lol. But it's interesting to just see the numbers, I guess. Of course, getting a job (or a good job) isn't just about education, and god knows the job market is a hot mess that's overrun with college graduates, but men are kind of set up for lower earnings than women overall if they're not going to college or dropping out. And as always, to some, the solution isn't to get an education or training and do better, or make themselves better people, it's to oppress women and go backwards. (It's kind of telling how marriage rates dropped when women didn't suddenly "need" to marry men to survive.)
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doneandtired2014 6 days ago +6
>Latinos and young men switching to the Republican Party en masse and how to win them back. \*Watches the gestapo rip anyone who looks vaguely latino out of their cars, homes, and work places as DHS arranges one way flights to death camps in foreign nations most passersby would struggle to find on a map at a glance\* Yeah, that seems to really be working out for them. I guess they're finding out in real time why "Jews for Hitler" was and then very suddenly was not following the fall of the Weimar Republic.
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euthan_asian 6 days ago +68
Do you ever think of the autopsy of the Kamala campaign, that the DNC said they were going to release, ended up not getting released and then just said it was a distraction? The very people that said they would take seriously the reasons why Kamala lost, instead just hid the data. If the reasons were the ones you stated, they wouldn't hesitate to broadcast it lol.
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EmbarrassedW33B 6 days ago +312
Best (worst?) part is Palestine is even more fucked now. All those f****** mouth breathing goobers who seriously thought Trump of all people would somehow make Israel stop destroying Palestine...Just how man, f****** lmao. Trump can't even find the place on a map and he's never given a single iota of a f*** about the plight of another human being in his entire life. 
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stoned_meditation 6 days ago +193
*All those f****** mouth breathing goobers who seriously thought Trump of all people would somehow make Israel stop destroying Palestine...Just how man, f****** lmao.* I think they knew it would be worse under Trump, but they just had to try to teach Democrats a lesson. And I'm convinced they'll do it again if they don't get their perfect candidate in the midterms.
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Wayrin 6 days ago +82
If only there was a way to know why people who normally vote Dem didn't last election cycle. Like maybe if there was some research into that and a report written up so that politicians can be sure not to make the same mistakes they made last time. They could then share that report with us so Dems can be sure not to repeat those mistakes. If only...
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20051oce 6 days ago +19
> If only there was a way to know why people who normally vote Dem didn't last election cycle. Like maybe if there was some research into that and a report written up so that politicians can be sure not to make the same mistakes they made last time. They could then share that report with us so Dems can be sure not to repeat those mistakes. If only... Fun fact, after Obama won the 2012 election, and off the back of their lack of success, the RNC drafted a report through the Growth & Opportunity Project (their autopsy). Some of the findings were for them to embrace reform/legalisation with immigration, and be more inclusive in social issues, because otherwise it "will limit our ability to attract young people and others, including many women, who agree with us on some but not all issues. ". https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/RNCreport03182013.pdf Guess how did the Republican nominee win subsequent elections? Guess who caused movement towards the republicans through young, minority demographic and women. https://theconversation.com/who-are-the-women-supporting-trump-265027 https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/ Trump won the electoral college in 2016, and won the popular vote and electoral college in 2024. Even if 2024 had mandatory election, Trump would have been projected to win. This is what America is. https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition
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d0ctorzaius 6 days ago +32
Came here looking for this. The DNC has the report as to why they actually lost. They won't release it because it's probably not just due to Gaza protest voters and sexism and would probably require Dems to actually make bold change.
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calmdownmyguy 6 days ago +20
They want to run on "we're not trump" again. They'll get mad at their base for not being satisfied with it.
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Kataphractoi 6 days ago +10
I still can't believe that's their strategy. Those f****** dinosaurs in leadership need to go.
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Mythosaurus 6 days ago +10
Dems are too corrupted by corporate bribes to materially provide change to Americans like they promise in campaigns. They would rather court Republicans by bringing Liz Cheney on stage, and pretend that Biden was powerless to stop Israel’s genocide by stopping the flow of weapons and sanctioning the nation
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NoInevitable9810 6 days ago +16
It’s as simple as a black woman being president. That’s all it took for Hispanic men to help give the election to reducblicans.
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johnmudd 6 days ago +21
To not do it again would be to admit that they made a mistake in the first place.
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OK_x86 6 days ago +91
They'll do it again because the DNC is working as hard as possible not to learn that lesson. But yes objectively Trump is 1000% worse.
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syynapt1k 6 days ago +27
You can't blame *everything* on the DNC and give voters a pass. Candidates must win a primary before they are an option in the general - which is entirely possible if people actually participate in the full process. Taking your ball and going home because you didn't get your way is sore loser shit that fucks everybody.
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Pitt-sports-fan-513 6 days ago +58
"Stop blaming the wealthy powerful people who run one of the major political parties for the failings of the party, blame the voters for not being loyal."
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flipping_birds 6 days ago +19
I sure as shit blame ever voter and every non-voter who could have but did not vote for Hillary Clinton.
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Worthyness 6 days ago +3
To be fair she did with the popular vote. Just didnt "win the right states" because of the electoral college.
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +38
Every voter had a choice: Trump or not Trump. So if you're one of the people who decided to not vote, you made a choice: youre not a powerless pawn or something. And you made the exact choice that the GOP wanted you to make. How's that going so far? Is your protest vote causing the wealthy to lose power? Things getting better? Adults understand we just have to work within the system we have. Petulant kids sit on the sidelines waiting for their own personal perfect candidate.
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Admiral_Skye 6 days ago +26
100%... As a non American living in a democracy with compulsory voting it just seems nuts to me to be complaining about what the Republicans are doing but also just not voting for the alternative. America's electoral system has a lot of problems but voter turnout is one of the biggest imo.
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HRHValkyrie 6 days ago +13
They designed it that way. You have to register, get to a polling place on Election Day, possibly stand in line for hours, it’s illegal for anyone to give you water even if you’re in the hot sun, and it’s not a holiday so you may be missing work and pissing gif your boss. Some places have mail-in voting, but Republicans are trying to get rid of that.
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Pitt-sports-fan-513 6 days ago +7
Yes every voter had a choice and Trump won. The problem is you blame the voters for this result and I blame the major political party that lost 2 of 3 national elections they ran against Donald Trump. If Democrats could feasibly be seen as anti-war or pro-worker none of Trump's rhetoric would have hit home at all with voters. Instead, Trump claimed the democrats are a corrupt party of political insiders and the democrats bent over backwards to provide him with opponents who fit this bill.
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avcloudy 6 days ago +10
If Harris was anti-war and anti-Israel, Trump would have run anti-semitism accusations. Pro-worker, she doesn’t understand business. And he would have won. I don’t think they’re the reason. The reason is simpler, Americans wanted this. If they didn’t, it wouldn’t be between Democrats and Republicans, it would be between Democrats and a left party.
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +8
Yes I blame voters for the votes they cast or didnt cast. What is the end game here? You think you protest vote for a couple of cycles and all of a sudden progressive Jesus shows up? And somehow, all of the moderates within the Democratic party decide to vote full on progressive? What happens when some of your personal beliefs dont dovetail with those of others? Going to hold your vote again for the next perfect candidate? How did we get so entitled that people think they deserve a perfect politician. You are a big part of the problem. Go ahead, dont vote. Let the world burn with that smug twinkle in your eye. Good on you.
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OK_x86 6 days ago +13
Everything? No. But surely after 2 disastrous campaigns - first Hillary then Kamala - you would think that the Democrats would do a little introspection and figure out what lost them the votes they needed. Both times against a f****** abysmal candidate like Trump who, rat fuckery aside, was very beatable. And what are they doing? Suppressing the report they themselves commissioned on why they lost. Anyway I don't blame the voters as much as I blame America's electoral system that all but guarantees a 2 party system and gives distinct advantages to the least popular party. In a system like this your choices are poor.
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mboop127 6 days ago +19
Blaming the voters achieves nothing. The people with power to reach voters and change their minds have made disastrously stupid choices and intend to keep doing so unless they're replaced.
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LystAP 6 days ago +14
Bro about 1/3 of the voters still think Donald is doing a wonderful job even as they complain about prices and the war. How do you reach people who refused to change?
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Technoxgabber 6 days ago +11
Why focus on them? Why not focus on your side that is telling you we wont vote for you if you support this . 
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mboop127 6 days ago +3
This is an argument that blaming voters is somehow "correct." My point is that doesn't matter. You need to get 51% of votes somehow.
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FettLife 6 days ago +7
It’s the DNC’s job to win. They have failed to do so 2/3 times, one of them being against a convicted felon. You and I would be fired over that kind of performance. The best part is that they are ignoring the presidential campaign autopsy showing why they lost the last election.
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toomanyshoeshelp 6 days ago +1
Who has all the actual power here, to blame? I guarantee you simply letting a Palestinian speak at the DNC would’ve done wonders, but the Dems doubled down on their racism. (No Arab speakers since 1988 btw)
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Gamer_Grease 6 days ago +46
If Dems think Israel is really that important, they can run more unpopular candidates in 2028.
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RedTulkas 6 days ago +24
Almost like spiting your own base is an idiotic way to run a campaign But I m not getting paid big bucks as a party consultant, so what do I know
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Pitt-sports-fan-513 6 days ago +16
I blame the voters, personally. You can't reasonably expect a major political party with billions of dollars at their disposal to turnout voters. There was simply no option but to show total and utter contempt for your base while answering every valid criticism with "what are you going to do? Vote for Trump?". The far left radicals were making ridiculous demands like for the administration to stop providing material support for a genocide. The major political party here is blameless and the problem is actually that more voters don't show a cult-like unquestioning loyalty to the democratic party.
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ThyArtisWill 6 days ago +14
this is it. Why democrats don't understand this will always baffle me. The party needs to meet the voters not the other way around. Democracy is pointless if they don't.
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skiabay 6 days ago +18
Wow maybe dems should run better candidates if they keep losing elections because of their shitty candidates. I say this as someone who voted for kamala in 2024, but it's frankly pathetic to continue to run defense for the people in power who failed us and to make light of their refusal to oppose a genocide.
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magnoliasmanor 6 days ago +3
LOL all the comments under you are just proving your point.
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lifesnofunwithadhd 6 days ago +10
Aren't they actively making sure Isreal receives weapon shipments before Ukraine now?
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LystAP 6 days ago +8
Ukraine doesn’t ‘get’ any weapon shipments per Mr. Vance. They get weapons from normal sales like everyone else in the West. They or the Europeans pay for them, then the shipments come via normal shipping. They get treated the same as the other Europeans. Europe as a whole has been bashed on by this administration, but the Europeans haven’t been doing [nothing.](https://www.newsweek.com/germany-overtakes-us-in-ammunition-production-capacity-11886409) Israel ‘gets’ weapon shipments via Congress so they get priority shipping outside of the usual defense industry cycle.
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DownhillUphill 6 days ago +3
He knows where it is because he wants to build hotels there and enslave the remaining people
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WhyLisaWhy 6 days ago +4
My friend is still being a slacktivist on social media about this lol, he just refuses to learn and feels eternally spurned by Democrats (despite not even voting for Bernie in 2016!). I'd say his social media is 40% Republicans bad, 60% Democrats bad. It's f****** obnoxious and I just threw in the towel trying to convince him of anything.
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Auggernaut88 6 days ago +5
The people I saw stay home knew trump was bad but wasted their vote bc kamala wasn’t pro Palestine enough I support Palestine but I’m sure that cause was being co-opted by right wing PR campaigns and foreign interests to peel people away from dems so they could make way for this travesty. I don’t think I’ve seen any coverage on Palestine in months.
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ApoBong 6 days ago +9
She could have just addressed what everyone in the world was seeing. So afraid of Fox news and donors, chained to Bidens disastrous policies, that cost her the votes. How can you really come away with this take after all we know now? We now know with absolute certainty that the IDF completely leveled Gaza, at that time protestors were denounced for calling it out. Harris as VP easily had access to intel from the US that was much better than the public. She of all people was in a position best poised to speak out. She didn't. And it cost her the election and all the suffering caused by Trump, is not a consequence of those pesky voters not bothering to show up... It's the consequence of her not doing the bare minimum and convincing people she is able to do better. Again, we now know with the gift of time and hindsight, that she must have seen the whole picture, but chose to stick her course for whatever reason. It's also public knowledge grassroots workers warned fairly early how disastrous the response was to her Gaza stance when knocking doors. Reportedly the campaign told them to stop bothering them with that. What I am doing here, is laying blame where it should be placed, at a campaign that was not well run. What people like you are doing, is attacking people you want to vote for you, no you NEED them to vote for you, because you are salty your team wasn't able to convince them in the past. They (protestors/uncommited) were clear about what they wanted last time around, they are clear now. Your team waffles around on the issue constantly. Let's put this simple, in a voting system between two choices, threatening the electorate with 'this other candidate is much worse!!' is only going to carry you so far. Maybe the left does want too prefect candidates, but you guys have not been able to field a candidate people really like since Obama. I think this is important to call out because you are clearly setting yourself up to repeat the same mistakes in the next election cycle.
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +11
So are you getting what you want out of not voting?
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ApoBong 6 days ago +5
You have to convince the voter to vote for you. How is this hard to grasp? It seems that was not completely lost on the Harris campaign, since they were trying to flip disgruntled GOP voters by wrongly assuming getting on stage with war criminals even too toxic for the right was a good plan. We could adjudicate the errors of the campaign for hours. Never mind how we got to a Harris candidacy in the first place. You can play this game, fight among the base until next election. But then please let's bring up all the other shit. At this rate, if this rift continues, you might as well see a break in the party that makes reconciliation impossible. Single issue voters don't usually deal well with being spit on. Polling for approval of the democratic party, the leaders, elected officials is also constantly low. People are not happy with status quo. As I understand electorally unless there are big shifts (and maybe there are with recent gerrymandering and changes in society) you absolutely need these voters in the future so better get on board with the issues soon.
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +5
What game? I see progressives online repeating this ad nauseum. The fact is we had 2 choices for who to vote for, and Trump ended up in office. You can blame the DNC if you want (and they do deserve some of the blame) but *voters* chose who to vote for, or not vote against, and so do they. Look at how the right wins elections. Vote for your team even if you arent 100% in agreement. And if you think "playing politics isnt a team sport" or whatever, in our current system, you get 2 parties. If we could all vote together, we could win elections, and discuss internally what policies we should support. Instead we fight amongst ourselves while Trump is in office. What does courting voters look like? You've got some foolproof plans for policy and how to fund it that everyone will agree with and vote for? What's stopping you from running for office then?
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ApoBong 6 days ago +1
I think your framing is off here. The right in the US understands how to deliver some basic shit for their base. Look at the insane stuff they get up to just to please them, big parts of what key voter blocks inside the GOP demand. I am trying really hard to think up on issues the right has, that they would just basically tell parts of the electorate to f*** off over. You don't see that sort of political malpractice of them too often, at least not right before elections. Trump is pretty unique in that way. The right has a lot of pretty contradictory groups, them all showing up elections (or not) has reasons. Let's face it, Harris lost because she wasn't prepared to break with Biden's course on Gaza. If she simply had delivered the bare minimum for the base, you wouldn't whine about the people that stayed home right now. You can't have it both ways, if progressive/left electorate matters, you can't ignore them with the excuse they don't matter in the grand scheme of things. It would really help if you look at what happened in the last presidential election beyond complaints that people didn't show up for your candidate. Look what MAGA accomplished (even if astroturfed by big money), the democratic party needs a renewal like that. Out with the old, in with the new. Remember HOPE in the Obama years? How the energy felt after occupy wallstreet movement? There was real expectation for change towards the better. You need that, not 'vote for us because it's a two party system duh'. What are you even trying to argue here, come on.
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larz334 6 days ago +4
So if it was Hitler v Newsom, you'd stay home?
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ApoBong 6 days ago +3
Are you saying even when running against Hitler, the establishment won't say what the world can see out of polical expediency?
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larz334 6 days ago +4
No I'm saying you'll never have your perfect candidate. Being an adult means sometimes picking between two things that you don't like to mitigate losses. People who were so high and mighty about not voting for Kamala because she isn't harsh enough on Israel didn't account for the millions of African kids who will die from the USAID cuts. I guess African kids are worth less than Palestinian kids in your calculus though. I was told "you can't double genocide." Seems like the Trump admin proved them wrong.
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ApoBong 5 days ago +3
And again, you would rightfully place the blame on the terribly ran campaign. If you can't say the right things when running against literally Hitler, what are you even doing? She didn't need to be perfect, just to give a minimum of assurance to the base. You will defend the election loss, probably even after losing in 2028 in a similar way. Wake up, the days of coasting on 'we are not Trump' are over. It wasn't enough to carry you in 2024 and it won't in 2028. It's really silly to defend the campaign in hindsight... They knew Gaza was a explosive issue, there were clear indications by grassroots workers knocking doors early on, the campaign reportedly told them to not bother them with that. Underlining this, there was a clear very loud and public campaign with the uncommited movement trying to force a conversation on reigning in Israel. They were kicked out physically! You can't make that up really. Someone else said political malpractice, I think that fits neatly. I posed this question to someone else in this thread, do you think the GOP/right would be stupid enough to do something reckless as that right before an important election? Trump is unique in that way (trampling on everything, caring about nobodies opinion, only his ego) They go out of their way to deliver insane shit for their base, grab power and don't leg go without a fight. You can argue MAGA forced them, but fact is they share power with their different interest groups. Compare that with mainstream democrats, progressive positions that have mainstream appeal are being ignored in favour of big donors. Deal breakers for single issue voters like Gaza are being ignored or worse these voters outright alienated. You won't ever have the perfect candidate, but yours will need to bring the bare minimum or people won't vote for him and that's on that candidate/campaign.
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honjuden 6 days ago +3
Was funding Israel's genocide worth losing to Trump again?
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +12
LMAO so, did the funding stop when you decided to not vote, or whatever you did? How well is that choice working out for you?
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honjuden 6 days ago -1
I get it, you would rather light the world on fire than stop helping Israel commit mass murder.
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the_last_0ne 6 days ago +15
Dude. Have you seen the world lately? *I* am not the one who lit it on fire voting for democrats. Let me ask again: has Israel stopped? Did you get what you wanted? Instead. The US got convinced to go to war with Iran by Israel. Does that feel like winning to you?
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Gamer_Grease 6 days ago +55
Israel is why we’re in this mess, so I don’t think voting based on willingness to cool relations with Israel is all that crazy, actually. Since 2023 my two primary criteria are a) doesn’t like Israel, and b) isn’t 70 years old.
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ButtEatingContest 6 days ago -6
>But the laugh! And Palestine! Neither of those things are why Trump is president now. But perhaps if something is repeated often enough, people will believe it is true.
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dope_sheet 6 days ago +5
But somehow our representatives aren't allowed to vote on it continuing.
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throwaway4whattt 6 days ago +3
It's almost like Trump has the same playbook. Take something which was 'free' (trade, Hormuz transit, etc.) and make it. Ore expensive for Americans. 'America Last' is a more appropriate slogan for this moron
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raging-peanuts 6 days ago +8
Totally on brand for the Trump administration
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bl4ckhunter 6 days ago +2
American taxpayers are paying *to try* to achieve something that was 100% free a couple of months ago.
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Vhu 6 days ago +4
> I refuse to support bad candidates! *Enables the election of the worst candidate to ever hold the office.* 5D chess right there. They get to stick their head in the sand while problems get worse, and then still get to pretend they did something useful!
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AlternativeRun5727 6 days ago +1
Everyone is paying for this shitshow.
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Ashamed-Status-9668 6 days ago +1
Tariff 2.0
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MultiGeometry 6 days ago +1
Hey, at least the fuel we’re spending to do it is way more expensive now /s
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shwarma_heaven 5 days ago +1
Milton: "*... but... I was told... the Straits were open*..."
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RipplesInTheOcean 5 days ago +1
Thanks, failed-staters, for being fat and stupid.
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Stonp 6 days ago +314
Of course Trump is actually doing something now that it affects America. Thanks for f****** all of us in Asia for the last 2 months while you were on catch up
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Mother_Idea_3182 6 days ago +320
He’s f****** the entire world because he wants us to stop talking about how he likes to f*** children. Donny was friends with a pedo and is a pedo himself. Don’t forget it when visiting the petrol station.
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Teantis 6 days ago +166
It appears it wasn't even that. He's f****** up the world because he believed Israel's pitch that it'd be super quick when both the CIA and Rubio straight up told him Israel's plan was really bad and bullshit. > The second two goals presented by Mr. Netanyahu and his team — a popular uprising inside Iran and the replacement of the Islamic government by a new secular leader — were not. The C.I.A. director, John Ratcliffe, used a single word to describe the regime-change scenarios: “farcical.” Secretary of State Marco Rubio translated, “In other words, it’s bullshit.” Also I like imagining Rubio throwing sideye at ratcliffe there like "dude he doesn't know what that f****** word means come on"
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THEPIGWHODIDIT 6 days ago +39
Or maybe those two details are not that far removed and the president is a compromised individual being easily manipulated/blackmailed.
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Teantis 6 days ago +14
Yeah maybe. But my read is is that trump is essentially a creature of immediate impulses, not a person of intricate devious plans. M*********** is a shit person who does whatever atavistic immediate urge tells him to do, he seems to have no theory of mind.
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calmdownmyguy 6 days ago +3
Yeah, there's no reason to believe it has to be one or the other.
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opeth10657 6 days ago +27
He's also making a ton of money off this, him and his gas exec buddies. He even bragged about it on his knockoff twitter. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/12/trump-gas-prices-iran-war
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Bovronius 6 days ago +4
Don't forget there are powerful people in every nook and cranny that also want him to do this because they like f****** children. He's the biggest problem at the moment, but once he's gone society best not dust off its hands and just try to move forward. These social parasites need to be removed US and worldwide, otherwise, this has all just been educational for them, and they'll be even more effective when they get their next orange cow out there.
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KDR_11k 5 days ago +1
His underlings are actually telling Americans that they should be happy because other countries are suffering so much more.
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otherwisepandemonium 6 days ago +48
Remember when the Strait was completely open and ships traveled freely, the economy was moving forward in the right direction, and Americans didn't pay 50+% more for gas and groceries? Then along came Trump. All the rapist pedo had to do was hold steady but instead he wanted to take a wrecking ball to everything good about the US to distract from being a rapist pedo.
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OddPerformance 6 days ago +23
Let's just be clear that this is not entirely on Trump alone. There's an entire political party propping him up that could remove him and his collaborators if they so chose. And then there's the voters.. I don't know how we fix them.
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Efficient_Market1234 6 days ago +10
I also remember how much easier Covid-19 would have been if he'd just let sensible people do their jobs, like previous presidents probably would have done. You know, listen to the epidemiologists, ensure supplies are distributed, whatever. Just listen to people who know shit and then go, "yeah, do the thing" and sign on the blank when needed. But no, he had to mess with it. America's morons elected the biggest moron their king and worshiped him. I'm regularly reminded of the Pakleds on Star Trek, where the leader is the one with the biggest hat and their only successes are stolen from other civilizations.
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PaulR79 6 days ago +12
> and Americans didn't pay 50+% more for gas and groceries? The entire WORLD is paying more because of this. Don't be a stereotypical American and only think of yourself and where you live.
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otherwisepandemonium 6 days ago +14
I get what you're saying but that wasn't the intent. I speak 3 languages and spend a large portion of every year in Europe so I'm far from a stereotypical American. I was just making a point directed at Americans so they can fix their bullshit. You tell Americans that the world is suffering and they don't care. They will care when you put their noses into their own shit.
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PaulR79 5 days ago +2
Understood. I apologise for being a tad aggressive. I don't tar all Americans with the same brush as the orange clown gang, I know you can't just wave your hand and make it all go away. It's just a sad realisation that most only started to care when their petrol / gas costs increased.
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otherwisepandemonium 5 days ago +3
No need to apologize, I totally get where you came from. I wish we could wave our hand and make the pedo disappear. The United States should be the one apologizing to the rest of the world
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cravingnoodles 6 days ago +16
Can the u.s just stop making the situation even worse? They are being a hindrance to the entire world.
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hyoo82 6 days ago +99
Thanks Obama /s Jesus f****** Christ, America is gonna have to change their name to Un-United States of Americants.
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pengmalups 6 days ago +26
The last “a” should be “u”. 
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boogs_23 6 days ago +3
Remember when the Soviet Union collapsed? Would it be that surprising if the US turned into the Un-United States?
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oneonus 6 days ago +70
Truce is not being honoured by Bibi, whose armed and funded by the US and is bombing Lebanon daily.
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Mythosaurus 6 days ago +18
Shh, you can’t bring up the root cause for Middle East being unstable and filled with US aligned authoritarians
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Blubbolo 6 days ago +127
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2050588054461489494?s=20 Winning, so much winning. Wake the f*** up and depose this demented moron before the world can't come back from his bullshit.
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aecrux 6 days ago +54
everybody knows the second amendment states guns can only be used in school shootings, not tyranny
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Tienbac2005 6 days ago +14
They're gonna be like, "we didn't force anything, it dressed like it was asking for it".
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FutureRevolutionary- 6 days ago +43
I’ll never forgive the idiots who votes for this administration
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Efficient_Market1234 6 days ago +3
*Never forgive, never forget*
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sarhoshamiral 6 days ago +14
Or those that didnt vote in elections because they thought both candidates were equal.
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Cubey42 6 days ago +16
I thought we were the ones keeping it closed? I cannot keep up with who's controlling this body of water anymore.
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OysterHound 6 days ago +83
NACHO! Not A Chance Hormuz Opens
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VividMonotones 6 days ago +38
For hating Latinos so much, this administration certainly is basing a lot of policy on Latino food.
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Winterfrost691 6 days ago +3
"Why is my 'murican superbowl in Spanish???" *He said, downing tequilla and eating tacos with a side of nachos with guacamole*
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Death-by-Fugu 6 days ago +14
Tired of my government being run by fascist morons who never played Risk
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SpaceXmars 6 days ago +7
Is america great again yet...?
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HonorboundUlfsark 6 days ago +5
Ya if youre big oil
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ButNotInAWeirdWay 6 days ago +4
There are many people who would say “yes” to that unironically.
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AlpacaTraffic 6 days ago +7
All because you guys wanted a pedophile in chief instead of a woman
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wildkiller65 6 days ago +2
Nah your shit there was rigged.
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demonlag 6 days ago +2
She also had an obnoxious laugh though!
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Gildenstern2u 6 days ago +3
The US needs to learn no means no.
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BloodFartz69 6 days ago +7
Well, at least gas is c**** and all those wealthy pedos in the Epstein files arrested.
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Tapprunner 5 days ago +3
Wait, so the war isn't over? When's the authorization vote?
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zuma15 5 days ago +2
I was told weeks ago that it was over and we had won.
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Gold-Cress-9407 5 days ago +3
Not the only thing the us leader has forced open
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Round-Medicine2507 6 days ago +11
Iran could just target every ship sitting in the gulf and wreck global supply that way too, Israel and the US is still the instigator no matter what way you slice it .
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MealTone 6 days ago +6
I can’t handle all this winning
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Upstairs_Eagle_4780 6 days ago +2
Yeah, I would call this a test of a truce.
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jeffismybaby 6 days ago +2
Trump is used to forcing children open.
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Haunting_Explorer376 6 days ago +2
He's going to annex Canada for our potash, isn't he?
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canofwine 6 days ago +2
Even our military tactics have rapey undertones.
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zackks 6 days ago +9
Test? The USA’s blockade of Iran is an ongoing act of war and a clear violation, not a test. How much did the writer get paid by the Trump admin?
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Reasonable-Turn-5940 5 days ago +1
Glad the war is over. Wait it wasn't a war. It was a limited something that ended, but that we're going to keep hearing about for the next few years
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tech-slacker 5 days ago +1
The war never ended because it never started. That was just practice.
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