U.S. warships cross Strait of Hormuz for first time since Iran war began

> we truly are living in the wildest times Bad times.

I would say center, maybe slightly left leaning. It’s a 100 year old paper and their print edition is pretty good. I’m sure they also have clickbaity articles online. But, they consistently get journalism awards for their in depth pieces.

One of the countries with the highest misinformation. https://news.umich.edu/india-ranks-as-highest-risk-for-misinformation-u-m-experts-can-comment/ https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/31605/rank-of-misinformation-disinformation-among-selected-countries/

here comes the mob

Worse than Faux Angertainment?

LOL.. I noticed that the Hindustan Times is always one of the very first "news outlets" to report on gang activity... in Los Angeles, lol.

That website, and several others like it is one of the methods Russia has been using to "legitimize" fake news. It's called *information laundering*, and they've been doing it for decades. [https://www.cima.ned.org/blog/information-laundering-and-globalized-media-part-i-the-problem/](https://www.cima.ned.org/blog/information-laundering-and-globalized-media-part-i-the-problem/)

This is the same media outlet that started the rumor that Trump was rushed to the hospital last weekend without any sources. It's not a credible source.

Why would Iranian media admit to making an empty threat to a US warship?

This should be at the top! He helps dTrump manipulate the market....d*****.

Yeah this entire situation is a joke. Anyone claiming they have correct information in this quagmire is either lying or a direct insider.

Please revert back to me

That's kind of what they want. They want the ships to take fire so they can blame Iran for the war still continuing. Better yet, they would probably try to DARVO (their specialty) their way out by claiming it's a dastardly sneak attack during negotiations. Something that would upset americans and get them to believe Iran is an irrational actor, and that they tried their best but Iran just wanted war. Which, ironically, is **exactly how the USA began this war**. They're playing narrative games here, not making strategic moves. They're hoping that enough americans will forget about why and how this war started, and if they can shape the narrative, then they can keep up domestic support. Expect them to be less focused on tight military objectives, and more on at-home political factors. It's ironic how similarly they're following Russia's 3 day operation. One reason why people keep underestimating how much loss Russia can handle, it's really about how the Russian government is more concerned with how the war looks at home rather than how it's going. This is why they could fight the way they did. Now americans aren't going to tolerate even a fraction of the casualties that russians do. But in terms of easily being brought around to supporting a losing war? That's been building since 9/11. We're just at a point where it might get much more severe.

They're likely trying to intentionally provoke Iran and have them break the cease fire.

>A shiny destroyer getting schwacked and a couple hundred sailors dying would really be an enormous political hit Yeah, Trump might lose *dozens* of supporters. His ratings would "crash" to the upper 30s again.

What happened when the first formalized navy was waterborne?

We don’t do freedom of navigation exercises against countries we’re at war with.

Until they sweep for mines even a lone destroyer isn't going to open it up for tankers!

Not particularly, no

And here I am still looking for the Gays of Hormuz

You can always tell who gets their information from Listnook comments and news TV/tiktok when there’s any spelling quirks like this. Cracks me up because these same people will dog on someone for a pronunciation error when that’s actually excusable imo.

I'm trying to quit drinking so I only drink when he uses the word "decimated" correctly. Trouble is he says it so often that the "broken clock clause" comes into play and I'm still fhckingnhammered

Tremendously obliterated! more than you’ve ever seen!

Definitely not their only card. Iran is insanely far away from defeated, their army won’t just stop existing and can perform attacks on the neighbouring countries as we have seen, basically destroying the world energy market, that’s not a card, but royal flush in hand. They won’t just surrender and here we are, having negotiations in Pakistan with a defeated country.

I was told "they don't have any cards" sir. /s

There's plenty. Marinetraffic.com for exemple This "incident" happened more than 8hours ago.

Trump's statement on it: >*The only thing they have going is the threat that a ship may “bunk” into one of their sea mines which, by the way, all 28 of their mine dropper boats are also lying at the bottom of the sea. We’re now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor to Countries all over the World, including China, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, and many others. Incredibly, they don’t have the Courage or Will to do this work themselves.*

Hmm, this article says that the trip is aimed at "increasing confidence for commercial ships to cross." I can't imagine Iran would want U.S. ships to clear the mines yet.

> don’t pose a risk of blocking to strait It's narrow and not that deep.. a few wrecks will stop all traffic.

Because it’s obvious BS from people who don’t know how mines work.

fantastic idea