US will start revoking passports for thousands of parents who owe child support

Now we're asking the real questions

They have already acquire the passport from another country.

Is that an actual thing? Do enough billionaires really avoid paying child support on proven offspring?

That’s where the Platinum Passport program comes in.

I think that's just the count of $100k+ delinquent parents who also have active passports.

I used to work in child safety. I couldn't believe how many millionaires had children out there they had abandoned. I worked with more than a few families where mom was caring for kids, living with her impoverished parents, but he was living in luxury with his new family.

My dad got his bank accounts and drivers license revoked in Pennsylvania, sorry they had to come for the fishing license…

Decades ago, Michigan Friend of the Court used to help with collections and disputes, but after failing miserably, Michigan enacted a law that required automatic garnishments from wages, SSA payments, etc regardless of whether there was a history of on time payments or not. This applies to all parents, regardless of gender or financial standing. I think they also revoke driver and professional licenses as well. My ex BIL was in arrears several thousand dollars (meaning all but about a dozen sporadic payments in over 10 years), so my sister paid a private detective to find him. Friend of the Court couldn't find him in 7 years, the PI found him in 2 days, living in another state and working for "under the table" salary for a woman with whom he lived. When ex came to visit his family, a bench warrant got issued for failure to pay support . His family had to give the court a cash bond to get him out of jail. After ex appeared in court for the hearing and judgment, my sister was awarded the bond, which still didn't equal all he owed. Ex then worked for awhile and paid support, then decided he was disabled. After fighting 2-3 years of appeals, he was declared fully disabled and awarded a lump sum of back payments, also totalling several thousand dollars. My sister got the balance of what he owed his child, who was now in his late twenties. The rest went back to the state of Michigan to repay welfare that another woman received to support a 2nd child, for whom he had never paid a cent. My sister worked 3 jobs at a time to raise her son, eventually remarried, and together she and her new spouse sent my nephew to college on their own dime. Every penny of the child support ever paid was saved for my nephew, who refuses the money to this day. My sister will not spend it, either. It now totals over 6 figures, after being invested wisely.

Where’d you get the math that 2500 is 6-8 months? I knew someone who did not make much money and that would’ve been like… 2 months for him. I feel like your months are way too high (I’m genuinely asking)

$2500 was like 2.3 months worth of child support for me and I didn’t make a lot

What about parents who never paid the money they owed, and whose children have now grown into adults? Does that stay on the record. I have a friend who’s father was derelict in that way for his entire childhood

I pay ~$1000/month for my son. Not that I begrudge that at all! His Mom takes great care of him and we have a good relationship. My salary is in the mid-five-figure range.

And with the new voter suppression rules. Many may not be able to vote. Wow. Let freedom ring. More and more like a banana republic run by billionaires, grifters and pedophiles

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Yup. And now my ex is taking vacations to Hawaii and Florida and bought a second house with his new wife but still complains about paying me a whopping $350 a month for his two kids that he barely sees. I see red every time I think about it. We lose so much earning potential because we have to take jobs that allow us to use available daycare hours or because we can't work overtime and our retirement accounts suffer. I don't blame the younger generation of women for never wanting kids. It's not worth it.

I got laid off from my job overseas and, with cash burning, tried to get my family back to the US. I was held up for a similar 4 months for 2 really stupid reasons. 1st - They didn't believe my child with my second wife was mine, despite us producing copious medical records. We had to wait until their traveling DNA testing doctor came around. In the meantime, they tried to say I needed to "adopt" my own kid, as it would be faster. This ran me right up to passport expiry time, leading to... 2nd - I was faithfully paying child support from my first marriage. My ex-wife, in her infinite wisdom, decided to apply for welfare in 3 bordering states, claiming in two of them that I wasn't paying support and giving addresses for various relatives (committing fraud, basically). This flagged me for passport renewal. The c\*\*ts at the US consulate really thought they got themselves a deadbeat, said it right to my face. I had to wait around for weeks to piece together what was going on, as at first they wouldn't even tell me what state(s) flagged me. Then I had to call the local offices in those states and get them to talk to each other. Another few weeks and all flags were magically lifted.

Probably just a law that didn't get regularly enforced that can be used as a means of revoking passports now. I don't see a problem with the law personally, though I don't know all of the downstream impacts.

They're generally given a "hardship" license to drive to/from work if needed. In practice, I've rarely seen license taken because it just complicates everything. With a large number of people, there are too many excuses (like driving to a job) to make it workable. The threat of jail time is the real stick.

If wages weren't getting garnished, then that person either isn't working or is working under the table to avoid paying child support.

I process people's driving history a lot for my job and I often see revoked licenses in people's history for dropping out of high school. So they're not going to school, but likely need to work, so they drive without a license, then get ticketed for driving without a license.. it all just compounds until their record is screwed and they have to go to court a bunch and pay all sorts of fees. Note: only some US states do this

It is a punishment. Not saying it is a good law, just the law. It does crack down on people who work under the table, etc to avoid being garnished from legitimate wages.

Often it's not actually revoked. They're limited to only driving to and from work and maybe things like getting groceries and picking up their kids.

Can Canada revoke it just because Elon’s a prick? Like has he ever used the word sorry?

You'd think it'd still matter for his security clearance (it would absolutely be a disqualifying factor for any other person during the clearance investigations)

Wait… this is tied to voting? Oh Lordy. 

At least in Ontario, I can confirm that they can revoke your driver’s license and garnish your wages. But if you are a deadbeat that is ok driving without a license and working under the table, then you can still get away with paying nothing. Ask me how I know…

Also sovereign citizens. Pretty much every sovereign citizen has a suspended driver's license and thousands in unpaid child support hanging over their heads.

Men, ESPECIALLY conservative men, don't typically change their last names upon marriage. So, very few men would ever need a passport to vote. Deadbeat *dads* will still have their voting rights.

You must not live in an urban area

Those guys can still just use their birth certificates.

That'll entice us to have more kids.

The passport makes sense so they can't just up and leave. The driver's license makes no sense.

Correct. They're running the system.

It’s already legally mandated but poorly enforced

My husband took his passport to vote in our primaries we had here the other day, he had a drivers license but was very much in a f*** you I'm not taking any chances frame of mind I'll bring the best ID I have. His was the first they'd had all day and no one knew what to do with it or how to tell if it was real they called some sort of supervisory person over to check it out. Election day is going to be a clusterfuck if people people bring passports. If our primary voting location was anything to go by the people in where the fucksville Indiana apparently have never seen a US passport.

I think they don’t realize how many MAGAs are not paying child support