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Eddfan36 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Wow, something new stupid happens every day.

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XSinTrick6666 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Using the internet subjects us to NSA spying - we are dumb enough to pay tech firms to harvest our private info, mail gateways, and ISPs to hand everything over to NSA VPNs or any encrypted interface just attracts more of Big Brother's attention... \[BTW all money center banks have massive cybercenters working hand-in-hand w govt spy agencies\]

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medes24 Mar 27, 2026 +1

NSA is going to get to see so much p***.

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Motormand Mar 27, 2026 +1

Make sure it's some weird p*** too. Make them earn their paycheck.

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AcolyteOfInfinity Mar 27, 2026 +1

Ahhh hell no

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BigHungryFlamingo Mar 27, 2026 +1

I mean, are you surprised at this point? >SIX DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS are pressing the nation's top intelligence official to publicly disclose whether Americans who use commercial VPN services risk being treated as foreigners under United States surveillance law—a classification that would strip them of constitutional protections against warrantless government spying.

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mack_the_tanker Mar 27, 2026 +1

They are already spying on us. Remember the patriot act.

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dek-tep Mar 27, 2026 +1

we don’t really have much choice but to use a VPN

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idle-tea Mar 27, 2026 +1

You do have a choice. For the vast majority of people the vast majority of the time: A VPN doesn't improve your security posture, it just swaps out your ISP being able to infer what websites you visit (but not what you're doing there) for your VPN provider being able to infer that instead.

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IdkAbtAllThat Mar 27, 2026 +1

Many of us use a VPN daily for work.

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idle-tea Mar 27, 2026 +1

If it's work it doesn't really matter, because you presumably aren't doing anything personal / sensitive on it. Your employers is a way bigger risk to your privacy than the government on an employer owned device.

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EmphasisFrosty3093 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Then your work is spying on you for them.

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Teripid Mar 27, 2026 +1

I mean.. work has its own security and general requirements for certifications and other legal obligations. I'm not doing anything sketchy on my work connect because I expect them to monitor (and they should to make sure employees aren't transferring data, etc). If common private AES-256 VPN traffic has been cracked there would be a lot of implications.

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dek-tep Mar 27, 2026 +1

certainly helps with blocked sites, geolocked sites, torrenting, and provides safety if using public WiFi

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Unhappy_Gazelle392 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Reverse VPN then?

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AcolyteOfInfinity Mar 27, 2026 +1

Start stacking vpns 😂

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cessout Mar 27, 2026 +1

Something something behind seven proxies

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defiant-raven Mar 27, 2026 +1

Time to use TOR

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CorrosiveMynock Mar 27, 2026 +1

That's probably even worse, TOR nodes are basically honey pots for intelligence agencies these days.

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CockBrother Mar 27, 2026 +1

It's kind of simple. If it looks like the traffic is originating outside the US it doesn't get presumed US protections. This is exactly what someone in the US using a foreign exit point would look like

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idle-tea Mar 27, 2026 +1

> If it looks like the traffic is originating outside the US That's not always the case. Plenty of people use a VPN server within their own country, and I'd be a lot of money the NSA lawyers would argue any traffic coming out of VPN providers within the USA could be foreigners, therefore it's fair game.

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RedditReader4031 Mar 27, 2026 +1

No one here seems to get that.

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Acceptable_Strike_20 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Using and not using.

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alienbringer Mar 27, 2026 +1

Sure corporations that require the use of VPNs love that.

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CorrosiveMynock Mar 27, 2026 +1

Most of them are not commercial VPNs, a company would use its own servers located in the US---so it would never get scooped up by the NSA or something.

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DeLongestTom182 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Great use of resources going after average Joe's instead of the pedos running the government.

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HoightyToighty Mar 27, 2026 +1

From the pedos-in-power's perspective, it is a great use of the average Joe's resources

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houseonsun Mar 27, 2026 +1

I'm going to VPN even harder now.

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RedisaPsyop5647 Mar 27, 2026 +1

As if they already weren't spying on everyone, lol.

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PointedlyDull Mar 27, 2026 +1

Yes but with AI they are substantially more efficient at it

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LordSiravant Mar 27, 2026 +1

Well...that f****** sucks if it's true.

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

They see and hear Everything! Even from the camera and microphone on your computer!!

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masterchefguy Mar 27, 2026 +1

Extra spying? There's no privacy on the net.

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Dapper_Menu_1684 Mar 27, 2026 +1

So what's a practical solution for, uh, web browsing privately?

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

There is none.

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EmphasisFrosty3093 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Who are you trying to hide from? Someone in your house? Incognito Your ISP or the govt? Live CD, public WiFi, no personal accounts

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DeekanKwaz Mar 27, 2026 +1

I just use incognito mode. 🥸 Works every time.

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

LOL!! Sure!

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CeadMaileFatality Mar 27, 2026 +1

A VPN is only as good as the company that logs the traffic on the servers. You can have Google have your search history, or you can pay someone else to have it. The only thing that matters is the intent of the provider.

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PointedlyDull Mar 27, 2026 +1

Well - vpns also help someone just change their location to avoid blackouts or limit streaming providers required

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LordBunnyWhale Mar 27, 2026 +1

It’s routing your whole online traffic through a single connection using someone’s servers somewhere. It was never an option for any level of anonymity, no matter how much annoying YouTube personalities try to tell you.

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coldchicken009 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Lol at people thinking they were anonymous through VPNs. They had PRISM in 2007. Imagine what they have now.

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SkeetonherValentine Mar 27, 2026 +1

Literally every corporation uses a VPN.

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mikeholczer Mar 27, 2026 +1

The NSA may claim that, but they aren’t the ones that get to interpret the law. So, the question is really about whether they are illegally wiretapping Americans.

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Ill_Damage9121 Mar 27, 2026 +1

This is why I do all of my discreet internet browsing in incognito mode. Can't be tracked back to me 👍

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

Can 100% be tracked!

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Nighmarez Mar 27, 2026 +1

Someone doesn’t know what incognito mode does…

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

It's an AI program.

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Ok_Character_5532 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Onion routing and anonymized credentials are your best bet when it comes to mass surveillance

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

They can still get it.

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Impractically_Dead Mar 27, 2026 +1

Have fun watching me watch P******

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Intel-Source Mar 27, 2026 +1

Still going for those big b****? ;)

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gentlemantroglodyte Mar 27, 2026 +1

At least a vpn means your ISP can't sell your browser history to whoever happens to pay them.

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Mysterious_Put_4278 Mar 27, 2026 +1

Lmao imagine thinking a VPN makes you anonymous on the internet.

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