Using US ground troops against Iran could prove very costly, retired generals say

We're now weeks into a war that has never be justified by this administration. No declaration of war by congress yet we're sending thousands of US troops to the region. Trumps clown at the DoD also wants Americans to cough up $200B more dollars for this bullshit. This war is illegal and this administration is blatantly corrupt.

If iraq was a "walk in the park" (which turned out to be a marathon through a minefield), iran is basically trying to play dark souls on sl1 with a broken controller. the geography alone makes Afghanistan look like a suburban backyard. we'd be sinking trillions into a literal fortress of a country just to end up with another 20-year "oopsie" that leaves the region more unstable than we found it. history doesn't repeat, but it sure does love to rhyme when there's oil and ego involved.

The guy who sent them in: https://imgur.com/2ge9xnz

In both meanings of the word. They will be in hostile territory outnumbered thousands to one. So of course they are going to die at very high rates. And because the only thing giving them any protection at all is very expensive equipment, we're also going to lose that at the very high rates. The loss of life is obviously the far more important factor to everyone who isn't f****** psychotic, but both are going to wear us down.

Experts have been warning for months that the conflict could drag on and become far more costly than originally projected.

It's in the interests of many in the Middle East to get the US to engage in a long-term war, to get to fighting the US and not just a proxy in Israel, and Russia sees this as a path to conflicts like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Afghanistan (the US version), Ukraine, etc. And the only true strategic interest we have is trying to stabilize the region after we initiated this war. Not only could it be costly, in many ways, there are a number of countries that want it to be costly, and that's not limited to Iran.

Ground warfare has changed significantly in recent years. We are seeing this firsthand in Ukraine. The way Russian soldiers are being decimated there as they attempt to advance could also happen to American troops in a ground operation. On Kharg Island and in the coastal area near the Strait of Hormuz, soldiers would be exposed to drones with little protection. And Putin will certainly send the Iranians all the drones and probably also the necessary personnel for operations and training. Then Trump will surely be quite surprised again that Putin would do something so mean.

Let's adjust this to reality and remove the word "could" to "will" prove to be very costly. There is no reality or planet where an invasion of that country doesn't have an enormous and significant cost, in every possible way. That certainly is only cemented by the clowns in charge.

Why is the US in this war, and how does it help make America great again? Because I see lots of dead people: children, adults, soldiers. I see ecological catastrophe and economic hardship. Can somebody tell me what's better now?

When you've got two seasoned, battle hardened warriors like Trumpty Dumpty and Kegsbreath leading the charge, what is there to worry about?

Trump is a sociopath who sees everyone else as toys to play with.

As long as people forget the Epstein files... /s

While laws don’t seem to matter anymore, there’s still the countdown of how long Trump has to wage war without declaring it. I fear Trump’s ego will demand he comes out on top, even though they have the cards, making the use of a nuke more likely imo.

As an active armchair general, I concur with the retired general. Holding lowlands, surrounded by mountains, trying to protect a 2-5 km wide traversable strait.

Even armchair generals know this.

Unfortunately, not like this admin actually listens to experts anyway......

bah what do they know, we’re running on vibes and feelings

I keep reading about this war, this article talks about battlefield dominance and seizing Kharg Island as a method of economic attack, but I'd be a lot more confidant if Trump hadn't surrounded himself with losers like another article mentioned some hours ago.

The US has scored very badly against FPV drone warfare in exercises. Going in against a country that's been working in the conflict where they are dominant is going to result in a lot of losses. 

"Very costly?!?" It will be disastrous for the thousands of kids who get killed and maimed! Again!!

As long as the not retired generals sit back and keep their mouths shut, there will be no change. Everyone is afraid to say the orange emperor has no clothes.

It's also hard to see how someone who was too much of a coward to fight for his own country when he was younger, now has the nerve to be considering risking thousands of soldiers lives in a war that is unwinnable.

we have a ready front line of Ice ready to be deployed. They even have the budget to send every last Ice officer to Iran

War for thee not for me 🎻 

I’m a retired nobody and I could have told you that.

They wouldn't be able to accomplish anything. Much less get into a nuclear bunker. Trump needs a long war. That's all that's going on here.

Anyone giving even a cursory glance at a topographical map of Iran could see that.

If l was an American soldier setting foot in Iran it would be foolish of me not to be shit scared.

Every vet I know that has been to the desert gulf, who isn’t brainwashed into MAGA, is pulling their hair out and panick-yelling about it. Because we know it’s true. So, duh 🤷‍♂️

Keep our troops safe, don’t put them in absolute danger.

There's no 'could' about it.

What do the Republicans care?  It's not their sons, daughters or their grandkids that will have their "boots on the ground"

No shit, Sherlock! I hated it when the media are saying these obvious thing.

Trump lit the fuse on a situation that could bring down the US Empire unless the military takes the cost of Iran for decades. This is stupid AF.

Maybe i’ll be able to re-up for another 100k bonus for a year in the box again

Absolutely. I just read on another sublistnook, US and Israel troops were hiding on Bubiyan Island (off Kuwait) when Iran struck, multiple vessels sunk and approximately 100 casualties.

The exact number of IDF that helped in the Iraq invasion will now help in Iran invasion. Which is great, lesser Israel takes the casualties while Greater Israel takes land and expands it borders. Its a win win for Greater Israel, not so much for lesser Israel tho.