US-Iran talks on Strait of Hormuz reach 'deadlock' - FT

Not a surprise.

“Open the strait” “No” Deadlock

Trump is 1000% going to throw JD Vance under the bus when the negotiations go to shit. Trump just won't be able to help himself. Trump is by definition a textbook malignant narcissist.

Trump gonna backup the bus & run over JD again

It’s all reality tv. Big drama until the 2 week deadline. A little dump and pump. Let’s see what actually happens. I’d be shocked if T doesn’t find an exit ramp

"talks between Iran and the US have entered an "expert-level stage" where committees specializing in economic, military, legal, and nuclear issues are meeting each other..." Lol. Iran is sending 4 PhDs. The US is sending a politicain, an in-law, and a real estate agent.

Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz" Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We are giving them more time." Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end." Mar 25: "We are still negotiating." Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time." Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well" Mar 28: "War will be over soon" Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont" Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells" Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK." April 1: "Iran wants a ceasefire" / "Strongly considering pulling out of NATO" / "There's no deal with Iran" April 3:"We can take their oil and make a fortune" April 5:"Open the fuckin strait you crazy bastards or youll be living in hell" April 6:"US could charge for strait of hormuz passage" April 7:"A whole civilization will die tonight" April 8:"Iran accepts ceasefire, the strait is opened" *strait closed* April 9:"NATO allies have days to reopen the strait" April 10:"Iran has no cards" April 11:"Were going to open up the strait"

The greatest failure of US foreign policy since..... Anyone got a bigger f*** up to mention?

It's definitely not an easy one. Other demands aside, Iran wants two things: for this not to start again in another year or so after the Americans and Israelis have had time to rearm and prepare for another round, and for the means to rebuild and rearm themselves. This has been an existential one for them, and they're battered. Trump's preference (as regime change and escalation are both really unpalatable) is that everyone pretends this war never happened, which means resetting the status quo and reopening the strait. Iran is pretty obviously not on-board with that, and they're going to hold their leverage in a death grip. The funniest negotiating tactic I can think of is if the Iranians offered Trump a cut of the Hormuz tolls. Absolutely unacceptable, but it would be the ultimate troll move.

“What’s that?” “War were declared”

Instead of actual negotiators they sent JD Vance..... If I were Iran I'd take that as an insult.

US/Iran talks transcript: “Please? I look like an idiot.” “No.” “Please?!” “No.” “PLEASE?!” “No.” “Jeez, man. Fine. Whatever.”

Lmao imagine trump thinking he deserves money Everytime a ship goes through the hormuz.   This guy is off his rocker. 

countdown to bumbletrump hopping on social media and blaming NATO for not opening up the strait.

So, Vance and Kushner weren't super negotiators who were going to win everything? Im shocked!

If the strait situation is not resolved in the next few weeks we're on our way to a world wide recession, and regardless of what the orangeutan in the white house says, it's 100% his fault.

Anyone in the US leadership who didn't think Iran would close Hormuz is an idiot

Can it really be called a deadlock if it’s exactly what US military contractors want?

USA "Open the straight" Iran "No" USA "Well, we tried our best"

My puts finna print.

The US literally shot itself in each foot over this issue. For $50k to $100k Iran can lock down the strait and it'll cost billions for the US to re-open it. This was a trap.

It is crazy that "joint control" was actually proposed by the Americans. You can watch the press conference where Trump came up with the idea on the spot that the US should charge fees for the straight instead of Iran and now his dementia brain is fixated.

Donald Trump’s mom essentially tried to warn the world not to vote for her son and nobody listened. She literally called him an idiot with no common sense and hoped he wouldn’t get into politics. Figured Trump would wreck America much like his businesses, but didn’t think he could destroy the world too, but alas, here we are. Who knows how many people will now suffer with oil and food shortages going forward.

This Ukraine talks all over again where Russia and the US wanted to decide on Ukraine ... Iran and the US are now discussing the rights of Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE etc. without their presence at the talks.

Will Trump sic a violent mob of bigots upon Vance for not accomplishing this task for him, just as he did to his previous VP?

Noooo, what?! Really?!

That's what happens when diplomats are forced to deal with dipshits that are out of their league. Did anyone honestly think JD, Trump's buddy, and Kushner were really going to accomplish anything? Like trusting a 5 year old to not touch a cake without supervision.

They probably told Iran they don’t have the cards…when Iran has most of the cards.

One side has Uno cards and the other brings p**** cards.

Iran delegates probably didn't say thank you and wear suits to the table.

Was it ever not in a dealock?

Why do these two think they can negotiate an international waterway. It isn’t for them to manage and control.

What an unnecessary unbelievable shitshow.Then straight was open a couple of months ago.. Now its not and everything in that region is fucked and the worlds economic situation is looking grim

Well, at least it reminds me of R&C Deadlocked.

I mean we are all not surprised. Someone will have to concede something

JD should go off script and negotiate a treaty and force Trump to not sign it.

Totally missed the opportunity to title it.. "US-Iran talks on Strait of Hormuz reach 'impasse'-FT"

Is this before or after the US ships crossed? Also follow up was it after the 1st ship or the second ship? Again another question did either of the ships go through the second strait?

"Reach" deadlock? Buddy, we've been deadlocked since Day 1. Nothing has changed. 

With the brainiac's the USA sent to negotiate, what better outcome was actually expected??

Should I schedule a TACO for the following Monday?

That was as quick as expected.

So back to war. But with TACO you never know. He claims now that he doesn't care if there is a deal or not.

I thought it was only the mines keeping it closed

Well, yeah. Both side make my way or no way demand and nothing get accomlished.

They're gonna open it up eventually anyway. Not like China wants it closed

Wow, that took no time at all!

Chimpanzees w sticks would have more success on these delicate, vital talks than those stupid, greedy white boys w hands in their pockets. 😡

How you going to negotiate after killing another country’s head of state?

Surprise surprise🤔😳

Maybe JD’s couch was uncomfortable for him. Threw him off his game.

Yuta will break it /s

But.... we have the world's best negotiator? 🤔

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So there will be boots on the ground..

I believe the only reason JD is there, is a play by Trump to tarnish his image when talks fail since JD is seen as the more “sensible one” and Trump hates it.

Lazy, weak, piss poor management, pathetic, utterly useless to anyone but their pimps. American leadership a cesspool. Nuke and pave.

This negotiation is a farce and disgrace. Iran having control of the strait is a major geopolitics issue for the us, either the us have no ability to stop them, or they have no will to do what is needed. Think of the long term consequences of this.

I bet many people looked up the straight of hormuz on google maps in the last weeks

Can we just resume bombing them already?

Not a surprise with couchfucker at the negotiating table.

The thing everyone is missing in this “ceasefire” noise is that Iran just pulled off the art of the deal. They didn’t just close the Strait; they installed a Yuan-denominated toll booth. ​  Iran is now demanding $1 per barrel in Yuan or stablecoins (via China's CIPS) just to let a ship pass. By even entertaining this “Joint Venture” toll, Trump is effectively signing the death warrant for the Petrodollar. ​It’s exactly how you’d expect a guy who bankrupted multiple casinos to operate: he bet the house on Iran “blinking,” lost, and is now trying to sell a total liquidation of U.S. financial hegemony as a “beautiful deal.”  You don't get "Freedom of Navigation" back once the world’s most important energy chokepoint starts taking the Yuan instead of the Dollar. 

Iran will from Now On Never Give Up Control over Strait of Hormuz...It is NOT International Waters.... US attempt to send a Naval Warship through Strait of Hormuz while the negotiation had just begun thinking that since the Iranian Leadership is in Islamabad they will simply sneak in and stay there forever... WRONG... IRGC notified the leadership within minutes of its movement and were given authority to blow it up if it doesn't turn around in thirty minutes... Iran is NOT Messing Around...The Warship turned back.. —❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 BREAKING: The U.S. warship has stopped moving, and was turned away from the Strait of Hormuz by the IRGC Navy – Al Jazeera