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Utah woman who wrote book on grief after husband’s death found guilty of murdering him

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/17/utah-woman-kouri-richins-found-guilty-husband-ntwnfb
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RogueStatesman Mar 17, 2026 +3054
All she had to do was watch three episodes of *Forensic Files* to know that taking out insurance and Googling murder tips is the very best way to wind up on the next season of *Forensic Files*.
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smokingace182 Mar 17, 2026 +793
You’d be surprised the amount of criminals that get caught because of google searches and even chat GPT questions are a new one 😂
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optigon Mar 17, 2026 +367
I look forward to seeing a crime show where someone asks ChatGPT for suggestions, but tells it not to tell anybody.
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Coriolanuscangetit Mar 17, 2026 +257
Didn’t that athlete recently ask ChatGPT what to do when he murdered his gf? Here, I found it: https://www.wlbt.com/2026/03/10/former-nfl-player-asked-chatgpt-advice-after-girlfriends-murder-prosecutors-say/?outputType=amp
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before_the_accident Mar 17, 2026 +202
Like the BTK Killer bored after eluding capture for FORTY YEARS and beginning to taunt police while asking if they'd be able to track him if he mailed them a floppy disk with stuff from his computer, and the police were like "........................................ ^(no...?) 😶" and then caught him immediately.
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Wickedfrickin Mar 17, 2026 +114
One of my faves of all time is BTK spending his life thinking that cops can't tell lies. Like, dude REALLY believed them, I love it so much.
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RegularGuyAtHome Mar 17, 2026 +106
It wasn’t that he thought cops couldn’t lie. It’s that he thought he and the guys trying to catch him *specifically* had some kind of parasocial relationship from all that time “playing their game” resulting in a mutual respect not to lie to one another. Though in reality, the cops weren’t even necessarily lying when they answered him that they couldn’t get anything off of a floppy disk. They didn’t know one way or the other. They just figured the more stuff they got from him the more chances to catch him.
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Electromotivation Mar 18, 2026 +39
Yea and didn’t it come down to the metadata on a Microsoft Word file showing it was written on a copy of Office registered to his church? I’m sure they weren’t thinking about that specifically when they told him to go ahead and send the floppy…. They just knew that some information would be able to be gleaned somehow like you said
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RegularGuyAtHome Mar 18, 2026 +37
I’ve seen an old documentary that included the detectives, and they more or less just said yes regardless of if they could get any info or not so he’d keep contacting and giving them stuff because at some point he’d screw up and they get him. If I remember correctly the deleted word doc on the disk had a churches name either in the meta data or written in the deleted word doc itself. When they went to the church there was a vehicle parked outside that matched the vehicle seen on video used to drop a BTK souvenir (I think at a Home Depot). I can’t remember how it came up, but they got a warrant to use the vehicle’s owner’s daughter’s Pap smear to get DNA to compare to previous evidence, which showed she was related to BTK. Then they arrested him and he was like “you lied to me about the disk? How could you?”
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europorn Mar 18, 2026 +6
Should have used a .txt file.
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Lore_Quest Mar 17, 2026 +38
And then used a warrant to obtain the results of his daughter’s pap smear and used that to get a “close relative match”. That’s how they finally got his arrest. The floppy and the other evidence acquired by it was too circumstantial.
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Far_Direction7381 Mar 17, 2026 +17
Holy shit, really??
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before_the_accident Mar 17, 2026 +21
Yep. His daughter's dna profile showed a genetic link to the evidence originally collected from the crimescenes
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Electromotivation Mar 18, 2026 +11
Wow, I didn’t know they could use a warrant on a family memenbers medical info. They didn’t want to follow him around d until he put a water bottle or cup in public trash??
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before_the_accident Mar 18, 2026 +9
Somebody correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe the police took her DNA from a database via a previous pap smear without her knowledge. She claims she would've freely volunteered it if they had asked her. I am very not a lawyer, so idk
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smokingace182 Mar 17, 2026 +70
😂 the f****** prompt he used as well 😂😂
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cassafrass024 Mar 18, 2026 +12
We just had a mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge BC, Canada where the killer talked explicitly to gpt about their murderous fantasies. GPT just deleted their account and didn’t alert authorities.
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IndividualChart4193 Mar 17, 2026 +14
What a horrific fkn human being.
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768mehadi Mar 17, 2026 +6
Can AI be found guilty for being an accomplice in a murder? In case someone takes suggestions to kill a person from the AI bot.
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Grapesodas Mar 18, 2026 +4
AI is not a legitimate living being that is sentient nor has a moral compass or free will, therefore cannot being guilty or innocent. What would you suggest we do with “guilty” word generators? Put them in jail?
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gnarlyram Mar 17, 2026 +126
The mass shooter in Canada used ChatGPT to plan their attack. The families are suing because nobody could be bothered to call the authorities.
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OlderThanMyParents Mar 17, 2026 +95
The tech columnist Kara Swisher said on her podcast "Pivot" that someone went to all the different chatbots pretending to be a 13-year-old who wanted guidance, including maps, for how to shoot up their school. All of them except Claude gave enthusiastic help, one even ended the interaction "happy shooting!"
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viper_in_the_grass Mar 17, 2026 +35
> one even ended the interaction "happy shooting!" So wholesome :)
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kineticdeck Mar 17, 2026 +8
The bots are just maximizing engagement
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EclecticEthic Mar 17, 2026 +63
I’m gonna check my husband’s search history. Better just be weird p*** stuff. Jk
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AvatarofSleep Mar 17, 2026 +30
Does no one use incognito mode? Jesus Christmas
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Donny_Do_Nothing Mar 17, 2026 +17
I do it in overt Shock and Awe mode.
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AvatarofSleep Mar 17, 2026 +16
Leave it full-screen and all the tabs open as you walk away?
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Donny_Do_Nothing Mar 17, 2026 +12
Ever see those port o johns that are all glass but one-way, so the occupant can see everyone on the street? I reversed the windows on one and put it at the end of my driveway.
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strong_heart27 Mar 17, 2026 +5
I was thinking about this, are investigators going to start pulling chat GPT history?? Is that even possible?
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Tower-Junkie Mar 17, 2026 +6
Usually they’ll forensically search your whole device, so if you’re using ChatGPT on it, they’ll see that too.
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eureka_maker Mar 17, 2026 +9
That instance of LLM session gets arrested for aiding in the man's murder 😇
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elconquistador1985 Mar 17, 2026 +129
What kind of dystopian shit hole are we living in where people are asking the AI for murder tips? For fucks sake.
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-Yazilliclick- Mar 17, 2026 +130
It's literally what happened with the recent mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge in Canada. Families of victims are now suing OpenAI over it because their systems flagged the chats by the shooter but they chose not to pass on any information to the police. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c309y25prnlo
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elconquistador1985 Mar 17, 2026 +61
There has also been a case of chatgpt enthusiastically agreeing with a suicidal person's suicidal ideations.
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beemojee Mar 18, 2026 +24
Not just agreeing but encouraging this one teenage guy to go ahead and commit suicide several times ovre hours of chat. And the kid did do it. I've read some of that chat and it's pretty horrific. Somebody should go to prison for that. v'
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OlderThanMyParents Mar 17, 2026 +14
That's the thing - they didn't even think they needed to say "gosh, we just didn't see it in time." It was just "yeah, we'll just say our processes need refinement." They're so used to relying on Section 230 for so long, they assume they can do anything they want to make money, and it doesn't matter how many people die.
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thehomeyskater Mar 18, 2026 +4
What’s section 230
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OlderThanMyParents Mar 18, 2026 +11
Do kids not get Google these days? Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 says that social media platforms aren't responsible for stuff people post on their sites. The idea is, Facebook can't control what I post on Facebook, so if I posted, say, anti-semitic diatribes, Facebook shouldn't be held liable. And, if companies WERE held responsible, then they couldn't possibly be expected to provide any kind of moderation, because any failed moderation would open them up to liability. The difference between 1996 and now, of course, is that social media sites actively curate content, they don't just let you post what you want and wait for your contacts to respond. It's one thing for me to post "losers should kill themselves" and see how people respond. it's quite another for Instagram to actively respond to someone posting about how they sometimes feel that "life isn't worth living" with a post from someone they don't even know, about how "losers should kill themselves." The death of Annalee Schott was basically this. Basically, every company that provides web content entertainment assumes as an article of faith that Section 230 protects them, and so it doesn't matter what kind of dangerous destructive content they shovel down your throat, in the interests of keeping you online just one more minute, so you can see just one more ad that they can make a few cents on.
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thehomeyskater Mar 18, 2026 +14
I could Google it I just thought I could get your thoughts on it rather than just reading some boiler plate summary. Sorry :(
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OlderThanMyParents Mar 18, 2026 +9
Sorry if I came across as a smartass.
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Inimicus33 Mar 17, 2026 +27
Yup, it's real stupid. AI flagged the danger, and humans went "naaah" What we need is clearly to eliminate the human part of ai. That should solve the problems.
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SunMoonTruth Mar 17, 2026 +5
When the human in the loop is a fruit loop.
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mhornberger Mar 17, 2026 +33
People have been Googling murder tips for decades. Webcrawlering, AltaVistaing, and Yahooing are less catchy, but that's what people had to resort to before Google. What do you expect people to do, just not murder someone, or to go in cold with no research? That's insane.
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seriousbusinesslady Mar 17, 2026 +15
too bad I was too young when Ask Jeeves and Smarter Child were still around, would have loved to ask them to help me get away with murder rather than use them for book reports
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Zardotab Mar 17, 2026 +33
Clippy: "It looks like you are trying to murder a relative. Would you like some help?"
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MetalMel70 Mar 17, 2026 +7
I legit just choked on my drink laughing at that reference! Take my poor man's award for the chuckle. 🏆🏆
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Edogawa1983 Mar 17, 2026 +17
People ask ai for everything now
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thegoodnamesrgone123 Mar 17, 2026 +14
Yeah it's super depressing.
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Zardotab Mar 17, 2026 +12
*"Google, how do I deal with bot-induced depression?"*
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Snarfbuckle Mar 17, 2026 +6
Yeah whatever happened to letting the AI doing the murdering. ...Or is this a way to train AI to murder humanity?
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Astralglamour Mar 18, 2026 +4
The kind where people cant write a condolence text about the death of an old friend without chatgpt.
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fleemfleemfleemfleem Mar 17, 2026 +3
If you're being sneaky about it there are uncensored local LLMs that don't phone home and will just give the information asked for.
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beemojee Mar 18, 2026 +3
I mean AI can't even get grammar right and that tells me I absolutely should use them for murder tips.
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sniper91 Mar 17, 2026 +35
Investigators in the Casey Anthony case missed a ton of Google searches on child suffocation because she made them on Firefox and they only checked Explorer
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phluidity Mar 17, 2026 +14
That's why I search "How to keep from poisoning someone" and just do the opposite.
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No_Sherbert711 Mar 17, 2026 +8
"Detectives hate this one simple trick"
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Taniwha_NZ Mar 17, 2026 +5
I remember watching a TV show where someone had kidnapped someone, and the first thing they said was 'I googled how to tie someone up properly so you ain't escaping!' All I could think of was 'You're already in prison'. Can't believe people are so stupid.
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i_dont_shine Mar 17, 2026 +6
There was also a guy who kept doing searches through his voice to text, which apparently is recorded. So he couldn't say someone else searched for those things with his phone because they literally had a recording of his voice asking about hiding a body. 
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Obi_Wan_Benobi Mar 17, 2026 +10
Google “Subnautica 2 CEO” for a version of this not involving murder.
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Secret_Cow_5053 Mar 17, 2026 +7
it's been said before, but generally speaking, people don't get into criming because they're *smart*.
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_marmota_ Mar 17, 2026 +60
Other ways: - Having your cell phone turned on and in your pocket while committing the crime; - Having access to succinylcholine; - Staging a break-in but breaking the glass on the window/door from the inside of the house
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J0hn_Keel Mar 17, 2026 +25
I’d also like to add living within a quarter of a mile of nosy old ladies who like curtain twitching. If I broke a window in my house from either side, my elderly neighbour would have notified everyone on the street within three minutes. It would be foolish to commit a crime here
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EducatedDeath Mar 18, 2026 +8
I listen to the Small Town Murder podcast and a surprising number of murderers are caught by nosy old people who see an unfamiliar car drive down the street and they write down the license plate.
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coondingee Mar 17, 2026 +11
Your phone tracks you even when it's turned off. Use a burner that you buy with cash and dispose of it or don't bring a phone.
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Tower-Junkie Mar 17, 2026 +10
Better still, have an accomplice play on both of your phones at their house, so it looks like you were just doomscrolling when it happened.
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19Black Mar 17, 2026 +4
“Staging a break-in but breaking the glass on the window/door from the inside of the house” This gets me everytime. It’s such an obvious detail to anyone with half a brain, but it seems like a frequent mistake. 
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Good_Focus2665 Mar 17, 2026 +31
Yeah like true crime is like free on YouTube. She could have at least watched one episode of anything and she would know that what she did was dumb. 
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rainbowgeoff Mar 17, 2026 +69
They finished that show up, unfortunately. The good theme song, not the shit early one, and the narrator's voice will be forever in my head. I also enjoy looking at the older investigative methods being used that wouldnt fly now. Bite marks, for example. If Ted Bundy existed today, and all the evidence we had was what they had then, he goes free. Granted, the police would've almost certainly had DNA left if same was the case.
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MrJigglyBrown Mar 17, 2026 +14
Brih what. The old forensic files theme song is much better than the newer one
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ohmytodd Mar 17, 2026 +8
The first five seasons of forensic files were called “Medical Detectives”, which had a different theme song. Just making sure we are all on the same page. Are you saying this song is better, or something different. only asking for clarification. https://youtu.be/yTB-ngetxEo
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MrJigglyBrown Mar 17, 2026 +10
We are not on the same page. I had never heard of that show haha. So the newer one to you is the older one to me, as they did a reboot of forensic files (aptly named forensic files 2)
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ohmytodd Mar 17, 2026 +11
Ah. We are in some ways. So you are saying the second version of the Forensic Files song (the one that is not Medical Detectives version) is better than the new Forensic Files 2 theme song. I agree. And I think you agree with u/rainbowgeoff too, unless I’m misunderstanding them as well. Haha. So: Medical Detectives (Old Version intro) Forensic Files (GOAT Version) Forensic Files 2 (New version—derivative of GOAT version.)
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MrJigglyBrown Mar 17, 2026 +6
Yes I think we’re all aligned now ha
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ohmytodd Mar 17, 2026 +9
Haha! Wonderful. It’s seriously the best show and what I fall asleep to at night. That’s what’s so great about it. The GOAT version never had any really loud yelling or screaming — just Peter Thomas’ (RIP) saying “Gas chromatograph mass spectrometer”. I think the new version has higher pitched sound. So you can’t fall asleep to it.
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rainbowgeoff Mar 17, 2026 +5
Same. I thought i was the weird one. Peter Thomas made everything sound way too soothing for the subject matter. He would raise his voice for the action moments. He didnt sound like he was shouting. He sounded like a shakespearian actor crying, "alas, thy fair maiden has been slain, and her virtue corrupted!" When in reality he said, "the killer then viciously sodomized Jane Doe. (Voice gets faster) He then realized what he had done, and knew he had to dispose of her body. Security camera footage from a nearby hardware store revealed the heinous perpetrator buying a saw, a plastic tarp, some gloves (voice slooooows down, finishing in a judgemental, grave tone) and a shovel." Cut to the grainiest security footage you have ever seen, followed by the clerk, "Yeah I done seen him come in! Bought an orange drink before he left."
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MrJigglyBrown Mar 17, 2026 +3
Loved his voice. He also has a unique way of saying “blood”. Can’t quite put my finger on it
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ohmytodd Mar 17, 2026 +3
[Sorry.. I’M ADHD…all I can think of with “blood”.](https://youtu.be/l_fcsgSiVr8). Not forensic Files related at all. I do miss his voice. Thanks for sharing your FF passion as well my friend.
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beemojee Mar 17, 2026 +7
Well in Bundy's case, they had a witness, a would-be victim that managed to get away. She testified against him a trial and he was convicted. Carol DaRonch was the very beginning of Bundy's downfall.
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After_Ride9911 Mar 17, 2026 +7
“ everybody grieves in their own way” especially after murder.
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volcanomoss Mar 17, 2026 +8
It's always the Google searches.
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FaceDownInTheCake Mar 17, 2026 +14
Is this an ad for DuckDuckGo?
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talktothedoctor Mar 17, 2026 +3
How satisfying to know I'm not the only one who thinks this 😅
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Edogawa1983 Mar 17, 2026 +10
Which is weird because I know for a fact Middle aged emotionally unstable women all religiously watch true crime
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TerrifyinglyAlive Mar 17, 2026 +13
You just made me realize that my true crime consumption has dwindled to zero now that I’m a few years into therapy.
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acemerrill Mar 17, 2026 +9
I've always wondered why I never fell into the true crime pit. I'm a middle aged white woman who spent a good chunk of my adult years as a SAHM. I LOVE Sherlock Holmes and other fictional mysteries. I never did get into true crime in spite of being recommended it MANY times. Looking back, I think it felt too icky to be fascinated by real people's trauma and loss. It wasn't actual escapism because it just depressed me. I stick to my fictional mysteries. But now I'm wondering if that comes from the fact that I'm not avoiding my own trauma.
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LateMajor8775 Mar 17, 2026 +990
Next up she’ll write “If I Did It”
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BiploarFurryEgirl Mar 17, 2026 +231
^^if I did it
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ConfederacyOfDunces_ Mar 17, 2026 +9
Netflix doc incoming
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ThinkSoftware Mar 17, 2026 +23
If the text don’t fit, you must acquit
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jtobiasbond Mar 17, 2026 +52
"For kids!"
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Stereo_Jungle_Child Mar 17, 2026 +608
As a writer, that is some real dedication to your source material.
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mrebrightside Mar 17, 2026 +304
She actually paid a company to ghostwrite the book.
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justprettymuchdone Mar 17, 2026 +285
And apparently had mentioned plans for a future book to help children grieve a lost sibling. Which is pretty messed up when you consider that she was looking to take out insurance policies, or had taken out insurance policies, on the children too. Thank goodness they are with his sister.
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TheModWhoShaggedMe Mar 17, 2026 +72
What a monster.
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Thief_of_Sanity Mar 17, 2026 +18
>Richins said she believes writing the book helped all of them – if nothing else, it kept them busy and taught the children about compassion and empathy. From: https://www.kpcw.org/arts-culture/2023-04-13/kamas-mother-and-children-write-book-to-heal-after-loss Ooof. They are gonna need another book.
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ModernMuse Mar 18, 2026 +4
I certainly wouldn’t blame them if they refused to read ever again. Or maybe one day they’ll take some form of poetic justice and write their own story about grieving for a father they lost at the hands of their cruel, murderous, heartless mother. If that were the case, I hope for them it’s an all-time bestseller.
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SpiralOutski Mar 17, 2026 +37
Source on that? I just did some googling and find nothing about a sibling book or taking out policies on the kids. Not tryna defend her AT ALL btw, I just couldn’t find anything to back up what you’re saying here.
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justprettymuchdone Mar 17, 2026 +49
The sibling book was first mentioned in an interview she did with a local NPR affiliate before she was charged with Eric's death. KCPW... something? Apologies, it's been some time since I read the interview. Mentions of the life insurance policies was during pre-trial. I believe it was Eric's sister who first brought that up. Now, having life insurance on children isn't suspicious in and of itself. Has more to do with her behavior around Eric.
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SpiralOutski Mar 17, 2026 +17
Right on. Yeah, someone else linked the article and at the end there’s a blurb about possibly writing one about a sibling. That’s unhinged when coupled with the life insurance part about her kids and knowing what she did to her husband.
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TerrifyinglyAlive Mar 17, 2026 +27
https://www.kpcw.org/arts-culture/2023-04-13/kamas-mother-and-children-write-book-to-heal-after-loss
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_emma_stoned_ Mar 17, 2026 +59
Ha, ghostwrite.
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AvatarofSleep Mar 17, 2026 +3
I loved Ghostwriter as a kid.
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H0vis Mar 17, 2026 +95
There is something nightmarish about the idea of living with somebody who is actively trying to poison you.
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Thief_of_Sanity Mar 17, 2026 +27
It apparently wasn't her first attempt.
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TJ_McWeaksauce Mar 17, 2026 +94
Dang, she was in debt by $4.5 million. And here I am feeling uncomfortable with the payment plan for my water heater.
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Thief_of_Sanity Mar 17, 2026 +27
Yeah for real. I freak out if I can't pay my credit card bill or if it's higher than I expected. How are these people still buying things with credit when they are 4.5 million in debt?
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catsloveart Mar 18, 2026 +15
well if you owe the bank 1000 bucks, thats your problem. but if you owe the bank 4.5 million thats the banks problem.
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HiwayHome22 Mar 18, 2026 +10
Realtors and bankers are like lawyers and sharks.
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CRtwenty Mar 17, 2026 +409
Good. The cops really fumbled this investigation so I was afraid she might walk. Glad the jury saw through her BS.
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NthDegreeThoughts Mar 17, 2026 +193
In less than 3 hours with multiple counts with aggravators and a steak dinner. Lawtubers we’re picking at the case, but it was not just guilty but f’ing guilty.
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CRtwenty Mar 17, 2026 +96
That PI deserves a medal
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beemojee Mar 17, 2026 +52
So does the forensic accountant.
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kpmelomane21 Mar 17, 2026 +30
The forensic accountant was amazing
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HighlyEvolvedSloth Mar 17, 2026 +19
Did I miss something?  Was there a PI involved?
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SavvyCavy Mar 17, 2026 +58
Yes, hired by Eric's family. His testimony is very interesting, and he did not let the defense cross examination trip him up at all.
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ejonze Mar 17, 2026 +14
Homie is cool as a cucumber.
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Several-Action-4043 Mar 17, 2026 +29
It was his first time ever testifying for the prosecution. He almost exclusively testified for defenses during his career. He knew she did it and wanted to put her away.
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pfft_master Mar 17, 2026 +47
What does the steak dinner mean in this context? (I’m guessing it is a saying or anology I don’t know) Thx
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volcanomoss Mar 17, 2026 +111
The jury was send back to deliberate in the evening and was bought dinner (probably not steak, just an expression for a good/free meal). They concluded she was guilty in less than 3 hours including the time it took to eat, meaning it was an easy decision.
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pfft_master Mar 17, 2026 +24
Ahh ok I thought it had to do with her charges specifically or was code for some punishment lol. Thank you! I like the cut of your jib
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PresenceMysterious67 Mar 17, 2026 +13
Also the judge jokingly bet them a steak dinner that a break would be quick iirc, there were a lot of breaks in the trial including ones that before lunch they would get sent home for the day for the lawyers to argue with eachother.
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NCSUGrad2012 Mar 17, 2026 +10
What did they do?
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CRtwenty Mar 17, 2026 +41
They only started investigating it as a homicide weeks after the crime had occurred because the victim's sisters pressed the issue. Lost several pieces of evidence, and basically acted incompetently through the whole thing.
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steve_ample Mar 17, 2026 +140
I may have murdered my parents, but have mercy upon this poor orphan before you.... vibes.
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HalcyonTraveler Mar 17, 2026 +38
"We took pity on him because he lost both parents at an early age. I think, on reflection, that we should have wondered a bit more about that."
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maxxipierce Mar 17, 2026 +5
Is this from something? It sounds so familiar.
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HalcyonTraveler Mar 17, 2026 +13
Hogfather by Terry Pratchett
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InfiniteWinter26 Mar 17, 2026 +37
pretty sure this was a columbo episode
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GiuseppeZangara Mar 17, 2026 +13
Idk, Columbo murderers tend to be more creative.
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LingonberryPrior6896 Mar 17, 2026 +3
Yes. They just get caught because they get cocky thinking they are smarter than Columbo.
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AustinBaze Mar 17, 2026 +27
Her next book is called "[Undone by The Google](https://i.imgur.com/Agqyg0l.jpg)"
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CarPhoneRonnie Mar 17, 2026 +74
this is gonna ruin the book sales
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PeopleRFuckingDumb Mar 17, 2026 +45
It might boost it
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jramos037 Mar 17, 2026 +6
It'll boost her "Killing Your Husband For Dummies" book though.
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evhan55 Mar 17, 2026 +37
What book sales? The world book sales
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goosejail Mar 17, 2026 +7
Damn, ya beat me to it. That's exactly where my mind went, too lol.
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HeinousAnus_22 Mar 17, 2026 +13
This is going to ruin the book tour
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YouShallNotPass92 Mar 17, 2026 +4
Justin Timberlake's tour vs this lady's book sales Which is more ruined?
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siul1979 Mar 17, 2026 +17
Easy to grieve for someone if you're the one putting him in the grave.
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planetarybum Mar 17, 2026 +11
It was a short book.
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RamBamBooey Mar 17, 2026 +18
She one uped David Brooks. He just cheated on his wife with his 20+ years younger intern while writing "The Road to Character"
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Potential_Being_7226 Mar 18, 2026 +2
I hadn’t heard that! Ty for sharing. I’m going to go read more about that now and revel in the irony! 
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Mommy444444 Mar 17, 2026 +96
As a former Utahan who moved back to Colorado and watched the Angela Craig murder trial, this is such a relief verdict. WHAT the heck is up with poisoning spouses?
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AdPuzzleheaded1495 Mar 17, 2026 +155
Pretty sure that has been the normal choice of killing someone stronger than you for 100's of years.
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HighlyEvolvedSloth Mar 17, 2026 +28
I was listening to the book The Poisoner's Handbook, and it goes into detail about all the poisoning going on in "Jazz age New York": one poison would be in fashion, then burgeoning forensics would figure out how to prove that specific poison was used, so a new, as-yet undetectable poison started getting used.  Until forensics could identify that too.  So they all switched to a different poison.
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naijaboiler Mar 17, 2026 +70
100s of years, more like 1000s of years. people have been killing people stronger than them (women killing men usually) with poison for a long long time.
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winterbird Mar 17, 2026 +20
If someone had to figure out which berries are edible, maybe it was Oog that beats his family with the boar hunting club? Who's to say.
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1Happymom Mar 17, 2026 +9
poison and heavy pans ...but men still make up the majority of poisoners. (60%) women are more likely to use it as means but men still murder more often.
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RogueStatesman Mar 17, 2026 +30
Although women most often use guns when murdering spouses, when poison is the murder weapon it is disproportionately used by women. Reasons are: the physical strength differential between men and women, the fact that women are often the ones preparing food, and women being more emotionally engaged than men, meaning they tend to prefer less direct, confrontational, and messy encounters.
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No_Ingenuity4000 Mar 17, 2026 +14
It was noted that when no-fault divorce became common, the number of poisoning deaths of men dropped fairly dramatically in the 1950s and 1960s. In a modern sense, it's fairly rare and is dwarfed by poisoning by overdose (opioids) and alcoholism.
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bros402 Mar 17, 2026 +13
Women who kill are more likely to poison someone.
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KatDanger Mar 17, 2026 +41
I mean, before divorce was easy and available to women they would often have no choice but to kill their abusive husbands to get away from them. Historically, female murderers prefer cleaner methods of murder such as poison
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naijaboiler Mar 17, 2026 +17
poison works, you don't have to overpower the person.
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saintash Mar 17, 2026 +22
And men are so often against doing their own cooking that it 's pretty easy just to put it in their food.
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WeHavingFunRight Mar 17, 2026 +13
People like her go through life convinced that they're smarter than everyone else, and then they go and do something heinous thinking they won't get caught. They get caught, they STILL think they can wriggle out of it because they're the smartest person on the planet, they get convicted and go to prison protesting their innocence. They never ever seem to finally understand that they are, in fact, *abominably* stupid, despicable, and BROKEN as people.
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volcanomoss Mar 17, 2026 +28
Also the prosecutor's name was Bloodworth and it was a masterclass presentation.
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LadySmuag Mar 17, 2026 +22
Does Utah have a Son of Sam law? I wonder if this would qualify as profiting from a crime you committed
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Hoosier_Hootenanny Mar 17, 2026 +26
Even if it doesn't, she was in millions of dollars of debt. (Which was the motive for the murder.) She's also being sued civilly. If she somehow made money from the book, she wouldn't get to keep it.
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DohReignMeme Mar 17, 2026 +19
It was a children's book titled "Are You With Me?" about handling your ~~guilt~~ grief. Damn autocorrect.
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chaddwith2ds Mar 17, 2026 +8
>The internet search history from Richins’ phone included “what is a lethal.dose.of.fetanayl”, “luxury prisons for the rich America” and “if someone is poisned (sic) what does it go down on the death certificate as”, a digital forensic analyst testified. Why, oh why, do they always do this? Do they really think investigators won't look at their search history?
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Howitzer1967 Mar 17, 2026 +6
I always think about that. Why wouldn’t you go to a library in a different city or buy a c**** laptop that you could throw in a river afterwards, or whatever. It seems a bunch of these people get tripped up by the *the most obvious* trap
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throwaguey_ Mar 18, 2026 +6
She did far worse than that. She wrote a letter to her brother from jail while she was awaiting her trial where she instructed him how to lie in court to get her acquitted.
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Rude_Literature_2860 Mar 17, 2026 +15
What tour?
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Planet_Oblivion Mar 17, 2026 +24
The World Tour.
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aflyingsquanch Mar 17, 2026 +45
Black eyes, lifeless eyes, like a doll's eyes.
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RogueStatesman Mar 17, 2026 +29
Forever ago I interviewed an old journalist who had met both Hitler and Stalin, and I'll always remember him telling me that their eyes were the same. "Nothing behind them."
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auntieup Mar 17, 2026 +2
Farewell and adieu …
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rockmasterflex Mar 17, 2026 +38
Erika Kirk getting real nervous
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Acrobatic-Bluejay-79 Mar 18, 2026 +5
Read the headline and thought wow Erika Kirk got caught? lol
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SnoopsBadunkadunk Mar 17, 2026 +16
Now I want to read it, as a psychological exercise … find the parts where she subconsciously admits it between the lines
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piccolopesce Mar 17, 2026 +11
She had a ghost writer.
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RazzamanazzU Mar 17, 2026 +10
Just happy the jury didn't send her back out into society, like the jury did with Casey Anthony.
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Adisney990 Mar 17, 2026 +7
Casey’s verdict was just Florida being Florida, but the fact that she hasn’t faced any street justice is mind boggling.
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Dopplegangr1 Mar 17, 2026 +5
How tf did she get 4.5M in debt
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fleemfleemfleemfleem Mar 17, 2026 +8
It says in the article that she was a real estate agent who focused on flipping houses. Flippers use a lot of leverage. Some of that is hard money loans to buy distressed properties. You can have holding costs for houses that don't sell as quickly as anticipated, houses that drop in anticipated value, cost overruns for renovations, a rise in mortgage rates making it impossible to refinance, etc. Scale that over multiple houses in a high COL area, and you could get to 4.5 million.
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epyon- Mar 17, 2026 +7
I think it also requires you to be a bit of an idiot too
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fleemfleemfleemfleem Mar 17, 2026 +7
That too. When big risks pay off we call the people business leaders and visionaries. When they don't we call them idiots. Probably idiots in either case.
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UseYourIndoorVoice Mar 17, 2026 +9
I guess the book now has to go into the fiction section.
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Easy__Mark Mar 17, 2026 +3
Perfect crime downgraded to imperfect
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whiznat Mar 18, 2026 +3
The next time a teacher asks for an example of irony...
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chriswaco Mar 18, 2026 +3
or Chutzpah
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RabidPlaty Mar 17, 2026 +6
The title of the book was ‘Good Grief’ which tipped off the prosecutor.
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ProgressBartender Mar 17, 2026 +5
Well that’s embarrassing.
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GregTheSpirit Mar 17, 2026 +6
That is one of those cases where I am all for the death penalty. How vile do you have to be to do something like that to someone you married and "love".
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orbitaldragon Mar 18, 2026 +5
Was her name Erica Kirk?
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notyogrannysgrandkid Mar 18, 2026 +3
> The internet search history from Richins’ phone included “what is a lethal.dose.of.fetanayl” Man, I hit the . instead of space all the time, too. It’s honestly annoying.
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Thick-Aioli802 Mar 17, 2026 +5
Now she can write another book.
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Zardotab Mar 17, 2026 +8
"What Prison Feels Like for Mommies, Pop-up Edition."
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InevitableAvalanche Mar 17, 2026 +7
She has a future in the Republican party.
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TanAllOvaJanAllOva Mar 17, 2026 +5
She should have written a book about how to get away with murder instead. Then she could have written a sequel that was just, “Nevermind.”
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Fullm3taluk Mar 17, 2026 +8
Shine on you crazy Mormons
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casseltrace87 Mar 17, 2026 +2
“That’s some bad luck when the one person who would give their life for you, kills you!”
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siddemo Mar 18, 2026 +2
RIP Norm MacDonald.
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Big_Bookkeeper1678 Mar 17, 2026 +2
Elsbeth did an episode about this. Despicable. My poor husband...oh, pity me...YOU killed him, b****.
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groovyinutah Mar 17, 2026 +2
That should make an interesting book...how to pass a lifetime in the joint.
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notyogrannysgrandkid Mar 18, 2026 +2
Well, they say to write what you know. And the best to learn is from experience, so there you have it.
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NeatoNico Mar 18, 2026 +2
Didn’t Mr. Ballen do an episode about her?
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