Vance en route, Iranian delegation touches down for Islamabad talks

Rumor has it that Vance was actually against the Iran war. (Him being very quiet about it these last couple of weeks would support it.) Rumor also has it Netanyahu convinced Trump to attack Iran. If those rumors are true it would invalidate your claim.

Probably rubio?

Iran also knows those two are tweedle dee and tweedle dumb. Even Israeli sources said that Iran offered a good deal before the war and Kushner and Witkoff couldn’t comprehend what was being offered, so they rejected it.

They hope vance could cushion the impact a bit

Witkoff is called "Ayatollah Witkoff" by Iranian dissidents for his efforts to try to appease this regime and every jihadist he sits down with. The fact that the regime couldn't make any progress with a pushover like Witkoff further reveals how delusional they are.

Might as well be hopeful if everything's fucked either way, right?

Trump: “Praise be to Allah!” Vance: “Allahu akbar!”

So the Pope all over again?

Maybe not more evil but if youre smarter and decide to tack your wagon to the evil express what does that make you? An evil idiot vs a more considered sycophant

Even if he is more evil, I’ll take lawful evil over batshit chaotic evil. As a country we’re pretty accustomed to lawful evil.

In his intentions, not his past actions That's also why I put a "maybe" there. I don't know and I don't think it's very likely, but maybe

Gotcha. I definitely agree that everything's been exhausting. News coming from everywhere and we don't know who to trust

They want to, but they have backed themselves into a corner. Regime gets most of its power from the hardliners. The over religious families who consider supporting the regime their "holy duty". Now, to rile them up and to make them defend against protesters (regime supporters have been in the streets for 40 days non stop in every city every night here) and to save a face, they talked a lot about how enrichment is their right, how Negotiations is sign of weakness and most importantly, and I'm not making this up, "victory is destined to them by their religion." So admitting a tie or a defeat is impossible. This also applies to supporting proxies and fighting isreal. Here is the problem now, a rational mind would say "good, i can get a good deal by giving away enrichment that my country doesn't even need at all". But that would mean actually admitting they are backing away from what i said above and not honoring the words of dead ayatollah. They already created a large dissatisfaction among their followers and by agreeing to these talks in the first place, now imagine how their supporters would react if they make a deal with the " great satan" and "killer of Khamenei". But at the same time, Ghalibaf is eying the presidency for next term (he didn't get more than a few million votes last time) so he needs this talks to be successful. Same as the new Ayatollah he wants to live unlike his father. Now, considering what i said above, here is what i think will happen if negotiations go through: They will not agree to no enrichment, unless USA gives them both sanction lift and control of hormoz. Or they will agree to low level enrichment, without control of the hormoz but still demand lift of the sanctions. Talks will fail if Israel pushes for iran to acknowledge them as a country. Iran will not agree with that ever. For the hardliner and religious and reasons i mentioned. Same as supporting proxies, those will not happen. Iran burned the bridges of being a normal country long ago. But Ultimately, i think talks will be successful, but don't expect iran to agree to all of the 15 points that Trump demands. They won't agree to all of the terms it even if you fill their pockets with billions every minute. JD Vance needs this W for 2028 too, so he should control trump mood swings and lower his expectations if he wants the deal, otherwise i will get to play Fallout 5 Irl. TLDR: talks will be successful, just don't expect this deal to cover every thing trump demands. Iran acts like they don't want for the sake of its own supporters, but they want it bad.