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News & Current Events Apr 8, 2026 at 10:27 PM

Vance says "ceasefires are always messy" and U.S. "never indicated" Lebanon would be included in deal with Iran

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Vance says "ceasefires are always messy" and U.S. "never indicated" Lebanon would be included in deal with Iran
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Vance says "ceasefires are always messy" and U.S. "never indicated" Lebanon would be included in deal with Iran
The Iranian Parliament speaker claimed the U.S. is violating three parts of a ceasefire deal, citing continued fire in Lebanon.
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SlumdogSkillionaire 2 days ago +923
The trick to making them less messy is to clearly specify which fire you want to cease in the agreement, or so I've heard.
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faffc260 2 days ago +119
it also generally takes longer than a handful of hours to craft an agreement all are willing to actually cease hostilities for, this one seems to have been made to stop trump from attempting to burn all iranian energy infrastructure and bridges to the ground beyond repair.
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grasshopper239 2 days ago +46
Desperate people are desperate, he was fishing for an off ramp and took the first one offered. It didn't and won't work, but it got him a day to pretend that it did.
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CogitoCollab 2 days ago +29
Market pumped hard, so mission accomplished. Just gotta get another pump n dump ready for next week. Possibly ground troops.
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SpartanKane 2 days ago +9
How does America come back from this? This is such egregious and blatant corruption and im not convinced this will be as easy as Trump getting the boot come 2029.
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CogitoCollab 2 days ago +8
Spoiler it doesn't. This literally could be the start of the end of the American empire. Petrodollar being threatened alongside constant "attacks" on allies, the rest of the world might just start deciding to move on from USA. Debt is also starting to get out of control and that's not a good combo if the world stops using USD. This might be the big or small push required to get the ball rolling. For better or worse. American complacency might have to change, but that'll only happen afterwards. Average Americans dgaf about most geopolitical events unless they are directly affected, and even then can be too dumb or brainwashed to know why something is happening.
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mikeyfireman 2 days ago +15
It will take a couple generations for people to forget how bad we are right now.
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JPNGMAFIA 2 days ago +2
Oh yeah I’m sure the “next couple of generations” will be handed a world capable of forgetting
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carpuzz 2 days ago +1
, nam checks in to chat...
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this_dust 2 days ago +5
There’s no coming back from any of this. It’s going to get worse before it gets worse. This is the hollowed out, bare-assed America that has no shame, dignity, or respect. These are not serious people.
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GovernorHarryLogan 2 days ago +3
Oh, they are serious. About lining their pockets. Just inverse whatever trump is saying the following day. Ceasefire? Short the market 12-24 hour later. Bombs flying again? Calls in about 36-48 hours. Not my favorite meta. Just had to read the patch notes.
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ResistiveBeaver 2 days ago +8
Offered is putting it nicely. They spoon fed the "offer" text to the Pakistani PM to post on Shitter.
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IntelArtiGen 2 days ago +7
Yeah I even wonder if Pakistan made sure Israel agreed to the ceasefire, or if they just thought "Trump will take care of that". I think Pakistan doesn't even recognize Israel as a state.
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CountryBulky7105 2 days ago +2
Burnt to the ground AND beyond repair?
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faffc260 2 days ago +1
I forget his exact wording. it was probably repeated a lot knowing him.
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mackey88 2 days ago +1
You mean, not over Twitter.
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TheMadBug 2 days ago +1
Ummm actually Grok is pretty fast at writing stuff that the administration can then sign.
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ConfederacyOfDunces_ 2 days ago +66
Never indicted? The original message brokered by Pakistan was clear as day, it said allies and Lebanon. The Prime Minister even tagged Vance in the f****** tweet
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Jayrodtremonki 2 days ago +8
No, Trump has been indicted dozens of times.  
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YakResident_3069 2 days ago +2
What happens when your country is beholden to anothers foreign policy ie Israel.
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silverpixie2435 2 days ago +6
Pakistan writing a tweet and not presenting an actual document is meaningless Even Iran's OWN version didn't include Lebanon
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zztopsthetop 2 days ago +11
Iran's own version absolutely included Lebanon.
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aRadioWithGuts 2 days ago +24
Disingenuous because it included ending attacks on Iran and it’s allies.
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Anxious_cactus 2 days ago +7
And "region" if I remember correctly, I think even Palestine and Gaza was implied. Complete ceasefire in the region.
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Kanotari 2 days ago +3
To be fair, we all know Trump's not going to read it unless it's in Tweet form. He might lightly skim it in Tweet form.
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NutsyFlamingo 2 days ago +3
Yeah I really don’t think there’s enough central control in place to write something that specific unless you want to technically have sides violate at the moment.
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mr_birkenblatt 2 days ago +3
Obviously Trump only meant for Iran to cease fire
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fury420 2 days ago +10
Having actual text for the specific terms of the agreement and ensuring everyone is actually on the same page is crucial too. The initial official statement by the Iranian Foreign Minister made no mention of Lebanon, nor did Trump announcing it, nor did quotes in the media attributed to Israeli officials... but the Prime Minister of Pakistan's tweet did. And tons of people seem to have bizarrely interpreted Iran's 10 demands as if they were somehow the 2 week ceasefire deal, instead of what Iran wants in upcoming negotiations to take place during the ceasefire.
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arathorn3 2 days ago +9
Pakistan for 11 years "Bin laden is not in Pakistan, he must be in the mountains of Afghanistan" cia then finds Bin Laden living a mile away from Pakistan 's version of West Point or Sandhurst. forgive my american ass for being suspicious of anything a Pakistani official says
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LevoiHook 2 days ago +2
Now that would require a plan and people actually reading stuff.
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silverpixie2435 2 days ago +3
Ok why couldn't Iran or Pakistan do the same thing though? An actual signed agreement both sides can point to? Everyone is relying on some bizarre tweet by Pakistan that included "draft for PM" in the beginning.
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razz-boy 2 days ago +2
Do not cite the old magic to me, witch!
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sexylegs0123456789 2 days ago +1
Constantly demonstrating incompetence.
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Optimus_Prime_Day 2 days ago +1
But Twitter has a letter cap per message!
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redditismylawyer 2 days ago +1
look, if appeals are being made to “spirit vs letter” pedantics, we ain’t nowhere near the end
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chamrockblarneystone 2 days ago +1
I guess this idiot never heard of the cease fire in WWI in primitive ass 1918 when the whole world just quit at the same time. Also does he not think this man has an interpreter? Claiming not knowing English is the problem is so ethnocentric and stupid. Like everything else with this regime.
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punkasstubabitch 1 day ago +1
There is not a single competent person in the State Department
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iprobablybrokeit 2 days ago +107
Ceasefires require acts of good faith on all sides. Otherwise, they cease. I'm not going to stop fighting if you tell me you're going to do something, then bait & switch. That's not how this works. The Art of the Deal was literally about getting legal agreements based on bad faith negotiations.
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Cyrano_Knows 2 days ago +20
TRUMP: If you don't accept this .13 cents on the dollar that I owe you for all the work you stupidly did without a deposit I will tie you up in court and you won't see your money for decades. TRUMP: I will spent 3 million dollars to bully you with court costs rather than pay you your 230,000 I owe you for all the plumbing you did in my new building. MAGA: Oh he's so smaaaart!
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imacyco 2 days ago +5
Didn't some dude he ripped off tell a media outlet that he voted for him?
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Takis12 2 days ago +2
Stupidity runs deep with this one.
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ToCityZen 2 days ago +6
To elaborate, Trump basically repackages a blunt, old-school playbook as genius. Ask for something oversized, puff up your image, push hard, then give a little, switch up the cups so you look smart, and lean on the other side until they give ground. It is heavy on theatrics and anchoring high, light on nuance, and assumes you can strong-arm your way to a win while still convincing the other person they came out fine. It can work in one-off, ego-driven deals, but Iran just taught us all a lesson.
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AnoteFromYourMom 2 days ago +82
“What if a bomb drops on ya head?”
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Blahblahman23 2 days ago +27
Unironically a funny Trump quote. Like why did he say that bruh
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skefmeister 2 days ago +15
Nothing he says will ever make me laugh. Nothing. It never has made me laugh either all I see is a f****** pedo.
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farfanseaweevil 2 days ago +62
What did Vance do before he became Trumps lapdog? Did he do anything other than Government page boy stuff?
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srone 2 days ago +137
You are sorely mistaken. He is not Trump's lapdog by any means, he is Thiel's lapdog. Theil has put Vance there for a reason, and it's not going to be pretty when Trump is finally removed from office.
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Aramis444 2 days ago +41
Exactly this! I want Trump gone just as much as anyone, but what comes after, with Vance, is going to be just as bad, if not worse. Peter Thiel bought and paid for him.
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IhamAmerican 2 days ago +25
The right wing outrage over George Soros will always be so funny to me because as much as I dislike Soros and billionaires meddling in politics, Peter Thiel might actually be the most evil person alive.
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Lor_azepam 2 days ago +7
The George soros outrage from the right is way more funny when Scott Bassett the treasury secretary was soros protégé and worked together for 20 years.
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SomeRandomGuydotdot 1 day ago +1
He's the man that broke the bank of England. We should be giving him a f****** medal.
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Mental_Medium3988 2 days ago +32
yeah but vance has the charisma of a couch cushion covered in jizz.
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yourpseudonymsucks 2 days ago +10
They do say that couples start to look and act like each other.
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Chicory-Coffee 2 days ago +2
Yes but Trump's approval amongst US citizens is already exceedingly low too. And we can't do much about it without the help of congress which is now full of loyalists or politicians who will acquiesce without defiance. That installation of loyalists is what's keeping the administration in power now. And that wouldn't change under Vance.  Their attempts to f*** with the election this year is proof they know they won't remain in power when the people vote, after all they've done. They've already infiltrated and don't plan on leaving now. And it doesn't matter if people  like them or not.
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costabius 2 days ago +2
Yeah, but everyone thinks Vance is a schmuck. Rubio is polling better for '28 than he is. Maga doesn't fall in line with Vance and his creepy, gay sugar-daddy. They fracture. And when they do, the magic is gone.
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melody_magical 2 days ago +7
Yeah but Vance has skibidi Ohio rizz. He doesn't nearly have the support 🍊 does.
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GarbonzoBeanSprout 2 days ago +6
Vance becoming POTUS, if it happens, is going to be a whole new level of hell, isn't it?
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skefmeister 2 days ago +3
No, he has no charisma it’s a Trump cult remember that.
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GarbonzoBeanSprout 2 days ago +1
Yeah, maybe. I trust Vance less for some reason
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srone 1 day ago +1
So few people see what's going on. Trump has already laid the foundation that the president can do anything he wants. All of the oversight has been removed. The upper echelons of the military who had integrity have been culled. Regulatory bodies are being laid to waste. Anyone in government that stood up against Trump have been removed and replaced with yes men. Most of the big legal firms that would have stood up to the government have been neutered. News outlets are either being sued into oblivion or bought by far right followers...this has only been in a little over a year. By the time Vance takes over the oval office, this country's ability to resist POTUS will be mostly eliminate. The government is being set up for the benefit of the wealthy and Christian nationalists, which Thiel sits in both camps. Vance will be the paper president, Thiel will be in charge.
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Sweet_Concept2211 2 days ago +4
It won't be worse than Trump.
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steve_ample 2 days ago +11
Peter Thiel's lapdog
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SP1570 2 days ago +5
Couch tester
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IndependentSpecial17 2 days ago +2
Couch molester
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the-planet-earth 2 days ago +3
He was a senator for Ohio
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sirron811 2 days ago +5
He was a Marine. Then venture capitalist. Fucked Perter Thiels sofa and got pac backing to senate then vp.
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Dalmahr 2 days ago +2
He called Trump Hitler. Made a shitty book in hope of getting liberals to like him
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SirRichardLove 2 days ago +1
Couches?
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Castle_Canada 2 days ago +1
Wikipedia dot com will help you find out
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KinkyQuesadilla 2 days ago +25
Because THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS **ABSOLUTELY NO F****** IDEA** **OF WHAT IS HAPPENIN**G, despite being the main cause of it.
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McMacHack 2 days ago +21
JD Vance search history "Where is Lebanon?"
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Alexander_Granite 2 days ago +17
“I thought it was that basketball guy…”
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Imaginary-Hyena2858 2 days ago +7
Isn't that why everyone talks about it being close to Jordan??
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-rwsr-xr-x 2 days ago +3
> “I thought it was that basketball guy…” "Lebanon James"? Didn't he play for the Lakers?
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FixedFun1 2 days ago +1
The day we get wars at Georgia in Europe Trump's brain will collapse.
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mvw2 2 days ago +6
Just caber tossing those goal posts all over the place.
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wabashcanonball 2 days ago +7
Everything Trump does is incompetent.
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Cheeky_Hustler 2 days ago +12
I feel like Trump just yelled out "CEASEFIRE" like Michael Scott from the Office declaring "BANKRUPTCY".
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oncemoor 2 days ago +4
Um so let me guess, we have nothing in writing. Trump can’t even broker a simple ceasefire. How can we expect him to broker a deal.
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Fancy-Inspector6615 2 days ago +4
Vance is a sociopath
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WafflingToast 2 days ago +4
‘I was told there would be no fact checking.”
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rawkinghorse 2 days ago +7
Messy like Orban's couch after Vance was through with it?
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alex8155 2 days ago +7
basically saying that trump agreed to a deal that he didnt even read or understand? no surprise whatsoever
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Far_Associate9859 2 days ago +3
Well maybe should have told the Iranians about that
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Plaineswalker 2 days ago +3
In his experience of negotiating one ceasefire that went t***-up immediately?
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ikesbutt 2 days ago +3
Why am I seeing too much Vance posts? Where is our dementia in chief?
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arvigeus 2 days ago +3
Messy like your eyeliner?
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Seven_Hawks 2 days ago +3
I'd argue that ceasefires are kinda meant to make things... ya know... less messy.
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EloWhisperer 2 days ago +3
We can all agree this guy is annoying
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milagro030 2 days ago +20
Pakistan says Lebanon was included in the deal. And in this case, I trust Pakistan.
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IntelArtiGen 2 days ago +3
It's possible Pakistan told the US that Lebanon was included, but I'm not sure the US or Pakistan told Israel that Lebanon was included, or that Israel agreed to it. Before declaring a ceasefire usually you want to make sure all parties agree to it.
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No_Tree_8144 2 days ago +2
whatta timeline
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SearchElsewhereKarma 2 days ago +4
I really hope this guy’s funeral director is haitian
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unknownpoltroon 2 days ago +2
Maybe if you were competent you would have BOTH AGREED ON THE SAME PIECE OF PAPER?????
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Thanato26 2 days ago +2
If iran thought Lebanon was apart of the ceasefire, that means that they never said no
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mopsockets 1 day ago +2
Walks like a b****, quacks like a b****: must be a b****.
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ux3l 1 day ago +2
If Lebanon was supposed to be included in the ceasefire, they should have included at least Israel but actually also Hezbollah in the talks.
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Pocket_RPG 1 day ago +2
Stop sticking up for Israel when all we want is peace. F*** me. This is the most annoying scenario. Israel is ALWAYS the one f****** up peace deals in the Middle East.
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schacks 1 day ago +2
Why the f****** hell are these incompetent idiots running the show?!?
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Lookingfor68 1 day ago +1
Because too many people couldn't be bothered to show up and vote in the 2024 election. Or they didn't want to vote for a brown person with t***... so they voted for an Orange person with moobs.
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BongoHunter 2 days ago +6
Everything that's happened since the deadline makes it look like nothing has really changed. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Iran just gets nuked so they can claim victory and get it over with.
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foghillgal 2 days ago +1
Nuking Iran just means everything in the middle east is toast too cause they\`re not going to nuke every single place in a 92 million habitant country at the same time and once a few millions are dead it\`s not Iran that will be the biggest problem for the US...
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Adorable-Database187 2 days ago +1
Nuking Iran would make America a pariah state, the rest of the world would rather deal with China than with the US.
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Zardoz_Wearing_Pants 2 days ago +3
my my bibi has the *juiciest* Epstein stuff doesn't he..
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moomshiki 2 days ago +4
Wait a minute..., in another news reported the mediator Pakistan reiterates it is included. It seems the Iranians are more trustworthy these days.
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Gutterfoolishness 2 days ago -1
Duh
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UltimateLmon 2 days ago +3
Starting negotiation with bad faith. Art of the deal!
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Alicyclobacillus 2 days ago
Don't forget the US killed a bunch of Iranian leadership during the last negotiation Kind of bad faith
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FeistyTie5281 2 days ago +2
Time for some real leadership. The clowns in charge of the USA are obviously in way over their heads.
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human_i_suppose 2 days ago +2
Isreal will not tolerate peace.
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JiveTurkeyJunction 2 days ago +1
Like how many ceasefire has this dip shit been involved in? He wrote a fake book about his mom stealing percs.
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platoface541 2 days ago +3
And yet Lebanon is in the Iranian 10pt plan they referenced…
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grasshopper239 2 days ago +1
The US is the only one who agreed to ceasefire, because the administration couldn't justify escalation. They retreated and claimed victory, which was easy because Iran never was a threat to them. Will be interesting to see if Israel has enough kompromat to keep Trump engaged in a historically unpopular war.
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slpgh 2 days ago +2
If Iran wants a ceasefire in Lebanon it is welcome to withdraw its proxy army from Lebanon, to the benefit of the Lebanese people.
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riko77can 2 days ago +3
Just want to point out that Pakistan confirmed Lebanon was part of the deal…
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YellingatClouds86 2 days ago
Iran just wants to keep terrorizing Lebanon and trying to control it via its proxy.
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LittleShrub 2 days ago +1
He then added, “we have no f****** idea what we’re doing.”
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cultureicon 2 days ago +1
Well we don't have much experience with ceasefires seeing as how that is an indication of weakness toward the other side. It's a bit strange for the world's super power to be in a position of weakness and have to negotiate with terrorists. Messy indeed.
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ken_the_boxer 2 days ago +3
The question is, who are the terrorists here.
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New-Equal8039 2 days ago +1
Why would it be messy if you have a clear deal you’ve agreed upon?
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I_burn_noodles 2 days ago +1
Like he has any experience in dealing with international negotiations. This is a damned "Make-A\_Wish" administration.
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chubblyubblums 2 days ago +1
Kinda feels like Iran did though. 
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SureSell6750 1 day ago +1
They are when all of your personnel in positions of authority are Fox News pundits or podcasters. Or JD Vance
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greatthebob38 2 days ago +1
They're really scrambling to do damage control for Israel.
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Cdcgirl2 2 days ago +1
It’s a 5 star 💩show. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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Cabbages24ADollar 2 days ago +1
Failed Presidency in every way
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Sweatytubesock 2 days ago +1
This a****** is such a classic high school debater at all times.
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psychedelicdevilry 2 days ago +1
This guy is such pile of shit
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MentokGL 2 days ago +1
Who knew ceasefires were so complicated?
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Socialinfluencing 2 days ago +1
Are people really this gullible? As soon as the '' ceasefire '' came into effect it was a race to the bottom, this conflict is already too entrenched and Iran hates the US, like with a fiery passion. This thing is far from over, fuel prices by the end of this year, not to mention food will make today's inflationary prices seem like the good old days. These are the times we're in people, buckle up.
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captsmokeywork 2 days ago +1
Dolt don’t know shit.
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phxees 2 days ago +1
I guess a former military journalist and senator for a few years would know.
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akgiant 2 days ago +1
These are the kids who scream for a timeout when they're losing only to instigate just before proclaiming "Time in!!" Spoiler alert: if you have a messy ceasefire you just have an open conflict, you know the opposite of a ceasefire.
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Hwy39 2 days ago +1
In his upcoming book about his faith, is it a tenet of his faith to blatantly lie every time he speaks?
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Chemistryset8 2 days ago +1
It's one of the three cushions
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Blatheringman 2 days ago +1
Even if a ceasefire wasn't enacted such an indiscriminate attack would constitute as a warcrime. It's really hard to justify such an attack when there are so many non-combatant involved.
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wanderingpeddlar 2 days ago
No kidding Idiot, Iran knows they have you by the short and curlies And they are going to twist it for all they can get out of it. The stupid part was starting the war. The next most stupid part was picking an country that knows you are bluffing. Come on Vance you have been thumping your chest as a MAGA hard guy. Live up to your own hype. It a dress rehearsal for the election. GO BOY GO. LOL
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fossilnews 2 days ago +1
It's literally point #10 of the plan they posted.
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mackey88 2 days ago +2
“I have seen a lot of different 10 points floating around. We don’t know which one we agreed to otherwise we would show you. If you have any questions about our official statement, you can read the prez truth on the matter.”
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Ultra_Metal 2 days ago
The Islamic Republic is lying to the world again, as is tradition.
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oncemoor 2 days ago +2
So even if that was true. Don’t you think you should at least have a signed deal outlined with a contract. But no way Trump is going g to put anything in writing as it would mean he can’t make things up at his whim.
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Ultra_Metal 2 days ago +3
The Islamic Republic is the one making shit up and committing war crimes.
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Bishopjones2112 2 days ago +1
Ah nope it was part of the ten point plan, and I’m pretty f****** sure that the United States who have been meddling in Iran since the 50s, is now the most untruthful, lying sacks of untrustworthy shit ever known to man. In all of history.
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Harbinger2001 2 days ago
There was no ceasefire agreement. After Trump’s threat Iran walked away. The US caved and just pretended to agree in order to safe face when they’d have to back down.
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Individual-Praline20 2 days ago
They won’t say the orange turd forgot to include Bibi in the call… 🤣
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unnatural_butt_cunt 2 days ago
To think a spineless, soulless buffoon like this is in any way proximate to the levers of power that have resulted in all that unnecessary death in Lebanon
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ARazorbacks 2 days ago
Unfortunately no one in the international community believes the US anymore because its leader, Donald Trump, is a notorious liar who lies about everything under the sun.  So Vance must be talking to the 40% of Americans who are too braindead to know he’s lying. 
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double_teel_green 2 days ago
they'll need enemies for the future wars against weak people.
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Jeannedeorleans 2 days ago
Ahh... Vice Vice President Vance. He should have told Vice President Drumpt and President Netanyahu about that before hand.
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Delicious-Day-3614 2 days ago
Pretty sure Iran stipulated everywhere, and their 10 points for sure does, so whether or not you agreed is irrelevant, it is part of the larger negotiation and you are clearly acting in bad faith. When will these idiots learn you can't word-game your way out of this.
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Altruistic-Cut9795 2 days ago
A couch can be messy to 💦💦
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Beginning_Ad_6616 2 days ago
JD Vance is so f****** dumb he fits in as part of this administration.
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tlcdr 2 days ago
Woopsy daisy, gee willickers international diplomacy sure is hard! Never let the MAGATs in your life forget how culpable JD has been when he makes his run for the throne.
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donkeykong64123 2 days ago -2
The US says Lebanon wasn't included in the ceasefire agreement Iran says it was included. Tbh it's hard to say which side is telling the truth. This means that for a successful ceasefire Israel is gonna have to play ball. Let's see how this turns out.
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silverpixie2435 2 days ago +5
It's not hard at all Just show the agreed upon document If there literally isn't any document at all then why act like there was even a ceasefire in the first place?
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