Vince Gilligan says he's no longer sure what do with the [device] from the end of 'Pluribus' season one — and he isn't sure when season two is coming, either

Why would he admit that??

Late 2027 schedule is not realistic?? Oh man, that sucks. I enjoyed season 1 a lot and love Gilligan´s work but these longer and longer gaps between seasons are terrible.

Detonating it would be the surprising thing

please bro just work on the show instead of doing interviews talking about how hard it is to work on the show

One of the strongest qualities Vince has is his ability to put together a phenomenal writers room. They’ll figure out what to do with the device, and it will very likely be awesome. The problem is that it’ll be forever before we see what they do with it.

Tape the bomb behind a bedroom electrical outlet cover, for a rainy day.

Imagine if the show writers on Lost were so honest. It’s actually incredibly disappointing. We watch these shows thinking ‘oh wow, what could that BE?’ Only to realize even the writers don’t know. It’s just their mystery-cliffhanger meatloaf.

Biggest fumble imaginable. This show has a cast of 4 characters (and 1000 interchangeable extras). It was picked up for two seasons initially. There's absolutely no reason they shouldn't have had season 2 written and in production by the time season 1 started airing.

He barely knew what to do in s01

The man with a plan. Him and George R.R. Martin should do lunch.

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It’s becoming impossible to support streaming shows. I’m so over waiting YEARS between seasons of less than 10 episodes. I mean, it’s not like there’s a ton of post production with zero CGI.

I truly think Pluribus was a single episode of Twilight Zone’s worth of ideas stretched into a season of TV

This show meandered. 50% of it was true plot, and I’m fine with 25% of the remainder being scenes of menial tasks and repetition to illustrate how bored but determined the characters felt… But ultimately there was little plot progression and character motives were all over the place. I hope the next season is tighter and focused. Vince is a great writer - he doesn’t owe anyone anything when it comes to his pedigree. But it was an unfulfilling watch, with not nearly enough payoff. The gap between seasons kills this type of slow-burn momentum.

To me, the bomb was more about testing whether the hive would follow through on difficult requests. She doesn’t have to use it - it was a test to see if she can use them to get what she needs to destroy them. Using the bomb doesn’t seem in character - it was about truly pushing the bounds of the relationship.

I feel like he's actively sabotaging at this point with these interviews. "lol not really sure where im going with any of this im just making it up as i go along theres no real plan or setup, but dont worry it wont be out for a few years anyway so ill have time to think of something"

It's a good day to be a certified Pluribus hater

I hate to say it but this is exactly why I didn’t watch season 1 as it was coming out, and haven’t been particularly motivated to watch it since as every update I hear seems to be the opposite of what you’d want to hear to give you faith in a show returning somewhat soon and be of similar if not higher quality than the previous. From what I heard, season 1 wasn’t exactly can’t miss TV either.

I liked it while watching but I think the concept and plot are kind of nonsense. You can't use a scifi concept like that so centrally in your series and then not engage with it as a scifi concept.   The hive is obviously a device to get Rhea alone and really upset, and the series is largely about her solo performance. But they seem to have forgotten that she actually needs things to react to.  The human eating felt c**** and was clearly thrown in there for a big mid-late season cliffhanger, rendered inconsequential and virtually benign the next episode. And now we know everything about the hive, and what it will do and how it will react. 

He can just pull from his X-Files roots and never mention it again.

Ridiculous.

Lmao it's clear from watching the show they had no f****** idea what they were doing. So they did nothing instead and just had some nice cinematography. Redditors tipped their fedoras extra hard because they were smarter than everyone else and they understood it and lots of things happened and there was a plot and it wasnt the most boring thing put on television in the last decade.

I swear, one day, the biggest selling point of a series will be that they know how it ends.

It's worth noting that the 'device' was not in the original script, and was only inserted last minute (the days of shooting) as a suggestion from an Apple TV exec. It makes sense he doesn't know where to go with a plotline he didn't originally plan for.

Shut up and go write the show

I figured. This show had a fun premise, but I just knew as the episodes lingered on with little substance that it was going nowhere.

Humbug

Remember when creators had full, multiple seasons mapped out before signing deals?

Hope he doesn't go the Stranger Things route and just ignore it, like when the military just put a metal band-aid on a giant crack in the earth through Hawkins. A bad way to take this is just to have Carol tell the hive mind to get rid of it at the start of the season and then move the story along as if it didn't happen

I think that tracks with most of the show.

Following a show season to season f****** sucks in this day and age.

how the f*** do people keep making gigantic f****** shows with no ending in mind?!

Giving writer rooms too much free time has irreparably destroyed TV. If he was operating under a strict time restraint rn and had a contract that said that he had to put out a new season by October of 2026, I guarantee you they would already be shooting the new season. Show writers just like with most professions are at their absolute best when under pressure. I know that sounds harsh but it’s 100% the truth. By the time he probably finishes writing a new season it will be more than 2 years after filming for the first season ended. It completely ruins a writers flow because too much free time lets writers dwell on too many details, second guess their work, and over analyze certain aspects of the show. But worst of all, it lets them get sucked into the show fandom with fans dictating to the writers what “should” happen next. It makes sense for some shows to have multi-year breaks if each season needs a ton of extra editing work and large ensemble casts that can make booking a complete nightmare. But a show like Pluribus where the cast is small, relatively easy to book, does not need mammoth set pieces, does not need lot of extra editing, and was already green lit for 2 seasons should NOT be taking multi-year breaks. That sets a horrendous precedent going forward in TV.

I'm not sure I'm even going to be alive by the time season two comes out. edit: I do have a glimmer of hope, he managed to pump out 12 seasons of TV between Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul over the span of 14 years.

This should have been a film.

That plot made no sense to me at all. They beamed a message to Earth 600 years ago. Why would they? The only sign of life they could have seen from there is gases in the atmosphere. None of our radio waves have made it there. No way 600 years ago they could have known intelligent beings existed on Earth. But, they managed to send the plans for a virus, coded in a way that we could read and then BUILD. That also just happens to work with our DNA. Then, they have a "we can't kill anything" morality that is AWFULLY selective depending on the plot point needed. We can't pick an apple, but we can kill 4 billion people by forcing everyone into the hive mind. Not to mention the constant extermination of bacteria and viruses in each animal on Earth. Even if they had taken over the plants, there is still an eternal war waging at the cellular level, not even including bugs and animals eating them. If they had our DNA somehow, they would have KNOWN this is a war planet where creatures kill to live. My advice for season 2: Let her be their shabbos goy. Let HER do the killing for them to live. She could end up having like, all of farming land everywhere, and just enough people released from the hive mind to work the fields. They could wrestle with all the moral paradoxes all season. Then she could nuke the place where they are building the transmitter to stop them from infecting another planet.

The first season was extremely repetitve it was like 4 episodes of dramatic content stretched out to 9 episodes.

I wanna go back in the thread where everyone screamed at me for saying it wasn’t coming for three more years and laugh in their faces. “It’s definitely coming next year you f****** loser!!” Alright.

we have a GRRM in television guys! Either that, or he tricked Apple in paying him a 2 season deal

The good thing about this show is his snail-paced storytelling style means very little actually happened in season one so whenever season 2 comes around, I won't need to rewatch season 1 to remember what the show is even about.

"Vince Gilligan says he's no longer sure what to do with the [character] from the end of 'Breaking Bad' season one" Gilligan started BB planning on putting Jesse in a body bag before season 2. I'm gonna go out on a limb and have some faith he can land this plane

Chekhov's atom bomb.

Ok George.

Honestly they should just make tvs shows all anthologies at this point because even shows I really like are forgotten in the 3 years it takes to make the 2nd season

yeah kinda glad I wrote this off near the end of s1. It could have been so much better rather than just hyper focusing on one intensely unlikable character (love Rhea though) and a bunch of random and insanely mundane filler scenes in between. yeah yeah tiktok brain etc whatever, save your comments lol

I wish these networks wouldn’t just hand millions of dollars to people just because. I get he has an ELITE track record, but one season every 3ish years MAYBE is just completely disrespectful to the audience. Seems like Gilligan doesn’t even have a strong plan for the baseline story.

That's exactly how this stupid f****** show comes across thanks for confirming it.

No longer sure what to do with the cliffhanger you ended your very first season on? Everything I read about this show and the making of it reaffirms my opinion on it.

Guy is trolling us

Insane where we are with season releases these days. Pluribus is on some Severance level fuckery where it’s going to take us upwards of 3 years to get every season, even though 80-90% of the show is shot in boring locations requiring minimal or no cgi. I didn’t hate season one, but it was agonizingly slow - the same events could have happened in half the episodes and it still could have kept a leisurely, well-filmed pace. Absolutely not going to wait 12 years for this 4 or 5 season arc to end, could not care less.

Episode 1 was pretty great. Pretty meh rest of season, and honestly - f*** it at this point. Obvious he just wants his "got yeah!" subversion moment and haven't thought of anything special. Cash grab.

It's absolutely ridiculous these high profile writers don't have the story already written out or at least mapped out.

I’m starting to regret watching the first season.

Characters will look 70 years old by season 4 (if there's one), Apple ordered 2 seasons; there's no excuse for the poor planning.

This is the actual problem with all these new streaming shows, they don't have the resources anymore. Not to mention a season is every year, but they're not willing. They want to wait to find out if the show is going to be good or bad before they set another season out. Which I understand but this leads to a problem of me just forgetting about the show and then I don't want to deal with the next season. I'm pretty angry with severance, and silo and a few other shows. It just takes too long to get a second season. When I used to watch Star Trek every season was every year and there was no gaps. Now I'm waiting four or five years for the next season, look at stranger things it's a joke The kids are how old now. We didn't get to see them grow up, we saw them somehow transform into new people.

I can’t believe this guy made breaking bad lol

The guy who keeps making hits accidentally and is forced to create endings on the fly didn't expect his latest venture to be any good and didn't plan it out at all. In other news it rained somewhere.

how is it that everytime he speaks on the subjects I care less and less.

Nothing, the answer is nothing. This should not be a plot device