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tyleritis Mar 18, 2026 +500

Meanwhile some show runners plan 5 years in advance

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11lumpsofsugar Mar 18, 2026 +178

I feel like when they do this, there's a higher chance of the show ending well instead of writing into a corner.

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moderatenerd Mar 18, 2026 +45

highly depends if network execs want to mess with it and they usually do

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radioblues Mar 18, 2026 +48

I worked in television, in post production, for many years. Network executives are so commonly, f****** dunces. The amount of times I could tell that they were barely watching cuts they were sent and most of their notes were just notes to justify their job. They still had enough ego that you can’t question their notes, even if they cause a cascade of other problems and continuity issues. They undeniably make the quality worse overall. It’s insane that so many of them even have jobs. They bring nothing to the table.

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postsuper5000 Mar 18, 2026 +16

As somebody who's been in Post for over 30 years, I agree with you 10000% percent. Rear are the good Network Execs and there are fewer and fewer of them.

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GNTsquid0 Mar 18, 2026 +3

Experienced the same thing as a video editor in advertising. A lot of copywriters and producers giving mindless feedback just justify their job. But because it’s advertising a lot of them also have delusions of grandeur and think they’re also writing something on par with an Oscar w***** half the time.

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humboldtHue Mar 18, 2026 +5

I didn’t realize that having conceived a beginning, middle, and end was considered, “writing [oneself] into a corner.”

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waz67 Mar 18, 2026 +5

The problems come when it reaches the end but the network says they want two more seasons.

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combat-ninjaspaceman Mar 18, 2026 +7

I prefer a team of competent and creative writers who know where the series is headed and will end, than a team which has excellent writers with no direction for the show beyond the current season they're working on.

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HenryDorsettCase47 Mar 18, 2026 +14

Vince Gilligan created Breaking Bad, arguably one of the best television shows ever made. He’s said in multiple interviews he had no idea where it was going season by season and him and the other writers did their best work when they painted themselves into a corner. For example, they didn’t know how Walt was going to use the M60 machine gun he purchases in the season 5 opener when they wrote the episode. In my opinion, I don’t care if writers make it up as they go so long as it *feels* like it was planned. Gilligan had an idea that the trajectory of Walt’s character would go “from Mr. Chips to Scarface” and that was about it. I think that’s all you really need. I do think there’s an exception to this though— Mysteries. If you’re gonna write a mystery or a show with a bunch of mysteries, you’d better have an answer before you include it in the show. They work best when the answer is revealed and the audience feels like everything falls into place, and not like you cheated with a c**** trick. I’m thinking of *Lost* specifically, but this applies to a lot of shows.

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KnowKnews Mar 19, 2026 +2

I’ve been making up my kid bedtime stories on the fly. Up to episode 38 now (one story). And the best episodes or plots have always managed to build off some of the most random details for the early ones, often total mistakes that made no sense at the time. It’s fun because you get to experience the story unfolding yourself, as you tell it.

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SuperSoakerofPiss Mar 19, 2026 +1

Ahh, I can’t wait to make up stories and have a captive audience, so cool.

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MazzMyMazz Mar 19, 2026 +1

This show is a big mystery. Seems like it fits in your exception.

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ryohayashi1 Mar 18, 2026 +3

That's why Bates Motel ended up so well. They knew where they were going

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PsychologicalRole238 Mar 18, 2026 +2

Yup see How I Met Your Mother

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tacodepollo Mar 18, 2026 +1

Lost was... Lost.

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runsdeep8991 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Or dragging out until it just plain sucks, I have a ton of respect for shows that go “we planned three seasons, we’ve finished this story, all the threads have been nicely resolved, we’re done”

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mafternoonshyamalan Mar 19, 2026 +1

Depends. How I Met Your Mother clearly knew where they wanted to end, even filming the scenes with the kids. Then wasted years dragging the story out, and even gave us a terrible final season where each episode was real time until the finale where it time jumped and negated everything that it built up to just to give us the planned ending from ten years earlier. Lost had nothing planned and nearly sent Damon Lindelof into a depression until they managed to map out 3 seasons, but then had to meet studio demands for 24 episodes a season that continued to expand and develop the mystery. Ultimately they managed to find a middle ground, but it still waaaaay overstayed its welcome.

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varnums1666 Mar 18, 2026 +28

Funny enough Vince Gillian never planned anything for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. They made shit up every season. Without pressure from the studio, I guess he's not in a rush.

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Apptubrutae Mar 19, 2026 +12

Yeah, it’s the method he uses and it works well for him. Most showrunners, less so. I remember in particular that when they started writing season 4, the only plot point they had was something like “ding. Boom.” This method lets the story evolve on its own too. Jesse was supposed to die. Mike was just brought in because Bob Odenkirk had another commitment. Sure you get moments like how Gillian wrote in the machine gun without knowing what to do with it and had to come up with something good, stressfully, but he’s consistently made great shows with this method so hey

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ConfederacyOfDunces_ Mar 18, 2026 +70

Im really sick of showrunners waiting years to release a season. I don’t care how good a show is, I will simply lose interest and stop caring. It seems Pluribus is following this pattern and that’s a shame.

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DrMonkeyLove Mar 18, 2026 +12

I hear the next season of Severance will be released in 2046.

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Dickduck21 Mar 18, 2026 +8

I spent half of Severance season 2 trying to remember what the heck was going on. I know I could have reached the first season but that is just not something I want to do with ridiculously intense drama.

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mac6uffin Mar 19, 2026 +1

I watch YouTube recaps to remind myself what happened.

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Iron_Erikku Mar 19, 2026 +1

Yeah, I love this move. I simply don’t have the time to rewatch entire season(s) to rejog my memory. Also good for when I want to watch some ridiculously numbered sequel in a franchise that my wife has never seen.

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SonofaBridge Mar 18, 2026 +7

There used to be more of a divide between TV actors and movie actors. TV wasn’t as prestigious but they’d crank out 20+ episodes a year, every year. Now that actors are doing both movies and TV shows, they have a hard time working around all their schedules. Can’t film the show until all or most of the actors can all be present. This isn’t the only reason but it is part of why TV seasons are only 10 episodes now.

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effyochicken Mar 19, 2026 +5

That's solely a byproduct of not signing them on to a second/third season ahead of time.

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tyleritis Mar 18, 2026 +21

Yeah I’m not going to wait 3 years for season two. I can’t even remember the first 2 Dune Parts

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10thousndreflections Mar 18, 2026 +11

Between book one and two of Dune it was 5 years. Maybe we should put them into TikTok format so the average American can stay interested.

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No-Stranger2936 Mar 18, 2026 +3

Stranger Things ran into this issue. It ended up having the most mixed reviews at the end. Had the seasons released more frequently, it probably wouldn't have had that problem.

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space_wiener Mar 19, 2026 +1

I have two or three shows I absolutely loved. Couldn’t wait for the next season. Couple years later when it finally came out I tried and tried to get back into them and couldn’t. Didn’t care what happened anymore. Outer Range was one of them.

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SeeingEyeDug Mar 18, 2026 +5

Of Babylon 5. He had a 5 year plan and got told he was getting cancelled early so he wrapped up the big storyline in 4 seasons only to get renewed for a final year.

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Moneyfrenzy Mar 18, 2026 +16

He did the same thing with Breaking Bad, and that turned out pretty well lol. Originally Jesse was going to die in S1, Gus was only going to be in a couple episodes, Mike was created as a coincidence, Tuco was gonna be around for 3 seasons, and he had no clue what S5 was going to be after the S4 finale Idk why everyone is acting like this is so shocking or bad lol, it’s his entire style

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Worried-Lettuce6568 Mar 18, 2026 +12

BB didn’t take five years between seasons though, which is the primary issue here

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Moneyfrenzy Mar 18, 2026 +3

Neither has Pluribus

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Worried-Lettuce6568 Mar 18, 2026 +7

I mean not technically (yet) but what’s the best case scenario here? A three-year gap between season 1 and 2? That’s still too long

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Vadermaulkylo Mar 19, 2026 +1

And you can tell it too. Mike inexplicably working for Gus after only being a random fixer for Saul stuck out to me when I first watched it and felt super random.

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xeoron Mar 18, 2026 +5

B5 is a great example.

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rostol Mar 18, 2026 +1

and get canceled on S3 with no closure of anything.

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AssCrackBanditHunter Mar 18, 2026 +1

It's Vince Gilligan

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LFC9_41 Mar 19, 2026 +1

They usually don’t get greenlit for multiple seasons, either. This mf got 2 seasons up front. Most shows even severance get greenlit after the show starts airing. That’s one of the huge bottlenecks for shows to take so long to come out. The preproduction starts at a time when other shows are already well into production. That’s how shows in the pre streaming era got released yearly. This guy got that chance and STILL doesn’t even start the writing process till after the first season airs. Baffling

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Stop_looking_at_it Mar 19, 2026 +1

There are limitless things you can do with it

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Ok-Cardiologist-635 Mar 19, 2026 +1

This is how Vince Gilligan operates. Breaking Bad wasn't planned out years in advance either. Seemed to turn out ok for that show.

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Loud-Pop5561 Mar 18, 2026 +192

Why is he telling people this shit? Just come up something for the next season and act like it was all planned out from the start

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theinternetisnice Mar 18, 2026 +25

Maybe it’s a RUSE

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RejectingBoredom Mar 18, 2026 +19

Better to plan to be late than make it look like your next season is stuck in development hell probably. Builds hype, makes it seem like he’s got some secret sauce or brilliant end game when S2 comes out. Also just better to have creator transparency I think.

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DarthPallassCat Mar 19, 2026 +7

S2 is gonna be like 3-5 years after S1 aired. No possible way he thinks that builds hype for his show

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PhasedVenturer Mar 18, 2026 +6

Everyone overshares when pressed these days

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BlindLariat Mar 18, 2026 +3

People love to bring up the Breaking Bad machine gun anecdote as an example of his genius. Positive reinforcement probably makes him think people will feel the same about this.

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asdf0909 Mar 18, 2026 +1

Setting an expectation level for quality and timing, and he looks like a genius if s2 is good

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LateOnsetPuberty Mar 19, 2026 +1

So lie? It’s just a tv show.

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Strange_Specialist4 Mar 18, 2026 +141

I take solace from the fact they had no idea what to do with Walt's machine gun. They set that up with no idea how to pay it off, and figured that shit out. My guess is they'll have to shake things up pretty radically, like when you've written yourself into a corner, set the room on fire level stuff

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Youre_On_Balon Mar 18, 2026 +112

People will hate this take but Vince is about to learn why planning is considered far more important in sci-fi and fantasy than it is for realistic fiction. That machine gun was something known and understood, it is death, and the only question was what brought Walt to this extreme. Sci-Fi and Fantasy elements create a level of expectation in the reader (viewer) that these more abstract, fluid concepts will tie in together in a satisfying, coherent manner. This is exactly what sunk Lost, and I bet most people on Reddit these days forget that yes, that show was once considered the one of the great TV shows of its time. That is, until its ending failed to provide a satisfying explanation for the various supernatural elements introduced throughout.

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Overall_Influence103 Mar 18, 2026 +13

Moreover, when you create a piece of sci-fi, you create a set of rules for that universe. Any plot device that breaks the rules of your universe later feels like a slap in the face or, worse, bad writing. It's why I can't get behind Signs as a good movie. You mean a highly sophisticated, intelligent alien species capable of intergalactic travel invaded a planet that is mostly water (you know, the thing that kills them) without any plan or protective equipment?

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TMDan92 Mar 18, 2026 +18

LOST is an over utilised example to illustrate this point - watched it through several times and the notion that it’s a bum ending just feels like a hangover from the legions of folks who still choose to parrot the “they were dead the whole time” misreading.

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Sensitive_One_425 Mar 19, 2026 +5

When almost nobody gets what the show is about it’s a bad show. I don’t know anyone who likes how Lost ended, no matter how diehards try to frame it. It died as hard as GoT did

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awwill74 Mar 18, 2026 +6

I was 100% with you until you brought up Lost. I remembered feeling deeply satisfied at the time (even if reality could never match Doc Jensen). I recently rewatched the entire show with my teenage kid and not only was I still deeply satisfied but watching it in binges without the hype - he thinks it’s absolutely brilliant.

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Beavers4beer Mar 18, 2026 +3

Lost is still frequently mentioned in threads about the greatest shows ever, and that’s here on Reddit. I don’t know of anyone that thinks Lost is a bad show because of the final season or series finale.

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TMDan92 Mar 18, 2026 +12

Rewatched last winter. It still fucks. “WE HAVE TO GO BACK” still an all time reveal.

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VellDarksbane Mar 19, 2026 +1

Dunno how hard it is for this in particular. EMPs are a simple effect that the device creates, the only question is how that affects the communication between hosts and how they prevent the damage the device will cause. Dealing with the device seems a simpler task than figuring out where to go for Severence season 3 for comparison.

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No_Sock1863 Mar 19, 2026 +1

He could know this already.....theres nothing that really shows he isn't aware of this difference Given the world they are in, the women ordering the nuke could be more of a token of her resolve than having any plot significance

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leblaun Mar 19, 2026 +1

It’s funny you say that ”Vince is about to learn” as if he didn’t start his career writing sci fi on X Files

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Steelballpun Mar 19, 2026 +1

LOST is great in retrospect and 80% of the complaints and accusations it received are just factually wrong if you watch the whole thing through and pay attention.

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blankdrug Mar 19, 2026 +1

If only Vince Gilligan had any experience writing or producing sci-fi!

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Hey_Giant_Loser Mar 20, 2026 +1

Lost was always a half baked mess .Right from the get go. There was no way possible that any show could devise that much strangeness and tie it all up in the end. It was like twin peaks but without the comforting fuzz of being a lynchian dreamscape.

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No_Sock1863 Mar 19, 2026 +3

the stuffed bear floating in the pool was also put in without an idea of how it happens....annnnd it became something incredibly fucked up

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Riderz__of_Brohan Mar 18, 2026 +5

Idk I feel like Breaking Bad post Ozymandias kind of falls off in terms of realism. Whole point of the series was that Walt was presented a feeble man who people underestimated and his own bravado and personality stopped him from making relationships that could have helped him but suddenly in the finale he’s sneaking around like a secret agent despite being the most wanted criminal in the country and figuring out how to use a complicated machine gun and getting skinny Pete and Badger to scheme with him when I’m not even sure he ever interacted with them prior to that, etc.

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Too_Hood_95 Mar 18, 2026 +25

>figuring out how to use a complicated machine gun I can get on board with the *feeble man* getting away with committing numerous homicides and building a world-renowned meth empire, but I draw the line at "figures out how to rig a machine gun to a garage door opener" lmaooo

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Kelsiersdaggers Mar 18, 2026 +29

Oh yeah, it was super realistic up until Ozymandias 🙄

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Lieutenant_Joe Mar 18, 2026 +12

You were down with “wheelchair guy teams up with dude responsible for killing his nephew basically while he was right there in order to blow away half the body the most intelligent kingpin in the business in a nursing home with no one noticing the planted bomb” but “chemist works out how to rig a machine gun” is where you draw the line?

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Disastrous-Quail-555 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Walt was a pretty smart guy. Point taken though, a lot of far flung license in that ending. Still, it worked and in the great scheme of things, was a great ending to a great show. Still get moved when I hear Baby Blue on the radio and just envision Walter White and his meth equipment.

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Lieutenant_Joe Mar 19, 2026 +2

I GUESS I GOT WHAT I DESERVED

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Kind_Resort_9535 Mar 18, 2026 +14

I disagree with most of what you said, but “figure out how to use a complicated machine gun”?? Lmao you can be trained to load and fire an M60 in under 3 minutes. It’s pretty self explanatory, and if for some reason a character portrayed as a genius can’t figure it out… there’s the internet.

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Disastrous-Quail-555 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Ya and automatic oscillation and remote controlled.

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SuccessfulOwl Mar 18, 2026 +2

But the machine gun pay off was dumb as hell. It’s only when you realise they did the setup without any plan that you understand why they went with that.

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L00pback Mar 19, 2026 +1

They were also going to kill Jessie off in the first season.

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teflon_soap Mar 20, 2026 +1

Vince: Nuke on a rail gun in the back of a train car? 🤔

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StuffonBookshelfs Mar 18, 2026 +27

Didn’t they start this series with a 2 season order?

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TheSwampThing1990 Mar 18, 2026 +33

Yes but it sounds like Vince and the team did not have a plan for season 2. They kind of kicked the can down the road. Add to that Apple saying that some form of cliffhanger needed to happen, so they added the nuke, and now they are all sitting around shrugging at each other

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CydeWeys Mar 18, 2026 +17

I mean, it doesn't have to be detonated. They can just sit on it as a deterrent device to prevent the plurbs from stopping them by imprisoning them. The absence of having some kind of effective deterrence like this would prove to be a huge plot hole next season.

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TheSwampThing1990 Mar 18, 2026 +4

In my humble opinion I think they are just using that as a excuse. Vince claims they had a plan and they decided to change it. Even in this article. I agree you. Odds are it wouldn’t be used in season 2 anyway. Vince has been on record saying he wants 3-4 seasons.

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Tibbaryllis2 Mar 19, 2026 +2

> In my humble opinion I think they are just using that as a excuse. Vince claims they had a plan and they decided to change it. Even in this article. I agree you. Odds are it wouldn’t be used in season 2 anyway. Vince has been on record saying he wants 3-4 seasons. I really liked what we got in season 1, but, at this rate, I don’t see enough people giving a shit about season 3-4 in 6-12 years.

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-This-Whomps- Mar 18, 2026 +1

I think it would be worth getting Carol to *regret* acquiring the device (much like Vince's writing team), and needing to explore ways to rid herself of it that ultimately, ah, blow up in her face.

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CydeWeys Mar 18, 2026 +2

I don't feel like that's necessary. Acquiring the nuke was the smart thing for her to have done.

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dance4days Mar 19, 2026 +1

Do you hear that? That’s the sound of Anton Chekhov turning over in his grave.

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jeno_aran Mar 18, 2026 +6

Hard to say no to that Apple money

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TheSwampThing1990 Mar 18, 2026 +5

That crazy thing to me is they had a plan. At least that is what Vince has claimed. Even in the article posted. “We *thought* we knew what we were gonna do,” said Gilligan, sitting down with Seehorn for an interview last week at the [Rolling Stone Studio](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/rolling-stone-studio/), live at [SXSW](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/sxsw/). “And then you get into it and you’re like: Do we? Do we really know?” if that's the case I wonder if Apple is just as mad.

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slupo Mar 18, 2026 +53

I mean if you read all the context, hes saying they had a plan but when they got into it, they weren't so sure. In other words, they are you know writing When you write you can make an outline. But you can deviate from that outline. And you should if it feels right. That's what it sounds like to me anyway.

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VlatnGlesn Mar 18, 2026 +7

I commend Gilligan's openness but you wouldn't be able to torture that quote out of me...

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GowBeyow Mar 18, 2026 +17

I think Vince intentionally paints himself and his writers into corners which forces them to come up with super creative ways for characters to get out of situations. It worked for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, so I have faith in him here, too. (Although I do wish we didn’t have to wait sooo long.)

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-CoachMcGuirk- Mar 18, 2026 +2

I remember him saying that in an interview for BB. I think he did that with the Full and Half Measures episodes.

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rpm319 Mar 18, 2026 +2

He said the same about the machine gun Walt buys in the final season. Eventually they came up with the idea to attach it to a garage door opener. https://youtube.com/shorts/TGu1aSTqtR8?si=XwoELIQUGppSrvEo

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Henchman4Hire Mar 18, 2026 +6

I'm sure he'll get around to it.

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Simple-Sun2608 Mar 18, 2026 +35

I feel this could have been a one season show. But now it cant.

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welltherewasthisbear Mar 18, 2026 +10

I was thinking 2 seasons. The finale really felt like a midpoint. I don’t know how you get 3+ seasons from this.

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RevertereAdMe Mar 19, 2026 +3

I saw an interesting theory/prediction that they'll find a way to "wake up" Zosia and then Carol will have to face the reality of the *actual* Zosia instead of the hivemind Zosia she's come to care for and make her companion. I think something like that is fairly likely to happen, beyond that I have no idea.

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Gwarnage Mar 19, 2026 +6

This doesn't feel like a story that requires a decade to tell.

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A_Polite_Noise Mar 18, 2026 +5

I'll watch it whenever it exists, but would of course prefer sooner than later =) The suggestion of 2028 being more likely than 2027 is a bummer, I'll admit. The idea of it just sitting in the driveway unaddressed for the rest of the series would be pretty hilarious. Like a dang lawn gnome lol

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mermaidmanis Mar 18, 2026 +5

Great now the show can be even slower while they wait to use the device till the end and leave season 2 on a cliffhanger. Then the rabid redditors on the pluribus sub can claim that the show isn’t actually slow it’s just that everyone has TikTok brain and can’t comprehend true art

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APartyInMyPants Mar 18, 2026 +3

I mean, let’s get real. Pluribus would have made a really good three episode arc of the X-Files. This was a good idea he probably had in the 90s but couldn’t draft a script for it. This show either lasts one more season and calls it, or it drags on until people groan when it’s coming back on.

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mjk1973 Mar 18, 2026 +5

I enjoyed the show until the final episode, then I felt like I wasted my time. A long time between seasons makes it feel even more wasted.

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Brokentoeses Mar 18, 2026 +25

I’m not sure I’ll finish Pluribus so I guess we’re even

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co678 Mar 18, 2026 +7

Yeah after finding out they’re “unsure” of when season two is gonna happen, I was like okay, I’ve lost interest now. Just like what Netflix does, “oop were three quarters through season 2, but sorry, we’re done with it, no plans to finish”. Pluribus made me change how I view new shows, I’ll watch it when it finally completes, or if they fold up in the middle, I won’t watch it at all. That simple.

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Curleysound Mar 18, 2026 +3

A great twist would be they gave her the weapon but concealed that it has been rendered inert somehow.

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Particular-Bank-5519 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Yeah, I think that’s probably the cleanest way to handle it. They give Carol the bomb, but it turns out it was intentionally disabled or made inert as a safeguard, so the threat is still real to her and everyone around her without the show instantly blowing itself into a corner. That feels way more Gilligan too, because then the real drama becomes Carol thinking she has ultimate power, and what that does to her, instead of just whether she pushes the button.

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Chimmychimm Mar 18, 2026 +3

The show always felt like it didn't know where it was going. Nice to see it confirmed.

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AVBforPrez Mar 18, 2026 +3

It's almost like you could tell for the horrific stretching out of the story that he had a decent idea and little more for the entire show.

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epiphanyWednesday Mar 19, 2026 +3

Such a waste of time and money for what was always going to be unfinished WIP fanfic.

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vissionphilosophy Mar 19, 2026 +3

We know way way too much behind the scenes stuff in this era. Ruins immersion

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Hot_Sun0422 Mar 19, 2026 +3

Ehhh. I'm cool if we don't get a second season. The first season was just so disappointing. It wasn't exciting at all.

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BobBeerburger Mar 18, 2026 +6

I watched every episode. I have no clue what he’s talking about… that’s how much I liked it. Cool premise, but I don’t know how much mileage you can get out of it.

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firecat2666 Mar 19, 2026 +5

Oh no you finally have to give the show a plot!

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iyqyqrmore Mar 18, 2026 +2

I mean, they build the laser the. The work is done and they die. Leaving Carol as last person on earth, never to see another human ever again.

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Johnnadawearsglasses Mar 18, 2026 +2

I don't like the pacing of this show at all. Then again I thought there were too many dead zones in his other shows as well. Part of the reason I don't have any Gilligan shows in my top 5

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CaseyAnthonysMouth Mar 18, 2026 +2

Oof… this is to prepare us for a season of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

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MoldyZebraCake666 Mar 18, 2026 +2

I usually wait until the show finishes so I can hear about how badly they shit the bed with the ending

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Sufficient-Pin-481 Mar 18, 2026 +2

IIRC that on the Pluribus podcast he said that Apple wanted a bigger ending so he gave her a bomb. Just put it in the guest bedroom and ignore it.

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Otakutical Mar 18, 2026 +2

Show was mid. I expected more and am fine with less.

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Oxjrnine Mar 18, 2026 +2

I already know what happens, Unity comes back because she is worried about Rick, the President takes over the hive, Unity fixes it and Dr. Wong dumps the president.

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AVBforPrez Mar 18, 2026 +2

Read my mind.

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PracticeConscious555 Mar 19, 2026 +2

Easy, Vince. You better Call Saul.

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TheDepressedSolider Mar 19, 2026 +2

I’d be happy to see it end like that

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Bryandan1elsonV2 Mar 19, 2026 +2

Vince :/ he literally said he wanted to avoid another breaking bad machine gun but here we are

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RoundnRound123 Mar 18, 2026 +5

Ah the GRRM approach. Bold strategy, Cotton.

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BagsOfGasoline Mar 18, 2026 +1

Nailed him right in his plot device

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Worldly_Possible2925 Mar 18, 2026 +2

Those are some words you genuinely don’t wanna hear from the creator of a show that you previously enjoyed. It has no point, I was just making it up as I went along. Not inspiring but what do I know. I’ve never written a show.

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skullllll Mar 19, 2026 +3

Horrible series. Just a concept.

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irishweather5000 Mar 19, 2026 +2

This is why I try not to watch modern TV shows in the streaming era. There’s just so little respect for the audience. Your TV show is not important enough to keep viewers waiting nearly THREE YEARS between seasons.

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Johnclark38 Mar 19, 2026 +2

I f****** hate this 2-3 years cycle between seasons. Good chance I check out and come to it in 10 years when it's finished.

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Kratos501st Mar 18, 2026 +2

And that's why I don't feel like watching the show, bunch of improvise fools.

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MightBeDownstairs Mar 18, 2026 +2

Yeah the show sucked. Literally went nowhere and they did not focus on lore or world building at all.

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DesiredNameWasTaken Mar 19, 2026 +1

Buddy… what world building? Besides Carol and the other unaffected the world came to a screeching halt, besides what the Plurbs deemed necessary to their own survival.

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jayz93j Mar 18, 2026 +1

I’m using this as ammo to continue to defend Lost. You don’t have to plan everything out for it to be good

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MercilessShadow Mar 19, 2026 +1

And Battlestar Galactica (the reboot ofc)

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jayz93j Mar 19, 2026 +1

I didn’t know that lol but adding that to the chamber.

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RejectingBoredom Mar 18, 2026 +1

Whenever it comes out, we know it’ll be before RR Martin completes Winds of Winter

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Remote-Ad-2686 Mar 18, 2026 +1

Vince ! I got you ! I have a treatment ready to go !

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CalagaxT Mar 18, 2026 +1

And at one time, he didn't know what Walt was going to do with that big ass gun he bought and wanted to just forget about it. They'll think of something.

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twigsmoke Mar 18, 2026 +1

Shouldn’t have been released until they had a ready to go plan

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AMonitorDarkly Mar 18, 2026 +1

Guess I’m skipping this one until they figure it out. I’m tired of sitting here like an idiot for 3 years between seasons.

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Self_Owned_Tree Mar 18, 2026 +1

I’m not reading anything in this thread because I don’t wanna have anything spoiled, but I am sitting on the last episode of the show, and I’m unwilling to watch it because it seems like no one has any idea where they’re going next with it.

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BareNakedSole Mar 18, 2026 +1

Tried watching that show and just couldn’t get through it.

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ten_year_rebound Mar 18, 2026 +1

This show would have been killer as a tight one or two season arc. That would require planning ahead of time. Instead it sounds like he had a cool idea for a setting and proceeded to make a show without a clear vision of the actual story he was trying to tell.

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BrockSnilloc Mar 18, 2026 +1

A trusted showrunner not knowing what’s coming next is okay. Prevents the audience from accurately guessing what’s about to happen

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Brent_L Mar 18, 2026 +1

There was a new Spiderman trailer released today. Watching it I don’t even really remember th last movie and why doesn’t anyone remember Peter. These writers and production companies have to stop this shit. Take a page from Back to the Future and film both movies at once like they did two and three.

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babyjrodriguez Mar 18, 2026 +1

Great show but I’m a little concerned about them taking their time with it. Especially if we’re only getting 9 episodes every 2 1/2 years. You’re asking from a lot from your audience to be that patience.

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ATimelessCheesePizza Mar 19, 2026 +1

Great run, onward

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TheCubanRattlesnake Mar 19, 2026 +1

So, it’s the M60 again?

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Rebelfraggle Mar 19, 2026 +1

This is why I stopped watching open ended series. I quit after ‘Lost’. I want a story with an arc. Open ended bullshit is bullshit

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profchaos83 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Surely she needs to detonate it, which the emp from the blast will take out the radio signal in whichever infected person in near to detach them from the hive mind?

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Syrairc Mar 19, 2026 +1

I honestly just took the nuke as a call back joke to the earlier episode where she asks about one. I didn't and don't expect it to have any plot relevancy at all.

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hotbutteredsole Mar 19, 2026 +1

Should I watch this? Or wait and see what happens? I hate when shows don’t get finished…

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TDA7584 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Pluribus was a show that, while watching each episode, I’d ask myself “Why am I watching this?” but as soon as a new episode was out, I’d watch. Didn’t hate it but forgot about it once it was done. Seems like a show that’s going to be a few years between seasons.

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SheepskinSour Mar 19, 2026 +1

It will sit dormant for around 2 seasons, perhaps being relocated and semi-forgotten… UNTIL S5 cliffhanger in the year 2038

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AskMeAboutMyHermoids Mar 19, 2026 +1

How bout carol uses it as leverage to not be turned into one of them

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colonelc4 Mar 19, 2026 +1

At the end they all become humans again and wait for a potential invasion...I guess? That's the logical happy ending Hollywood has accustomed us to all their movies...just finish the show with a movie and move on, continuing on the TV Show path is going to be a torture for the audience and a slow death for the show, I bet they'll not deliver a second season in the next 2-3 years.

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Fidrych76 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Scrap it and give Rhea a better project.

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slobschaub126 Mar 19, 2026 +1

The whole thing fell apart for me when I realized the main conflict is that they have her stem cells to eventually change her. But she can just demand to be taken to the lab with a can of gas and a match that she can get from anyone but Shia Laboof.

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NotYourGa1Friday Mar 19, 2026 +1

Can we stop interviewing Vince about this? The man needs to sit someplace comfy and cook.

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OfferEvening568 Mar 19, 2026 +1

Jesus, this man is determined to make everyone not care

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Acrobatic_Dark_4266 Mar 19, 2026 +1

This is why I don’t watch sci fi shows anymore until they are least 3 seasons deep. So tired of liking a show just for it to get cancelled on a cliffhanger OR end up with a show runner who has no idea what he wants to do with a show so it ends up a meandering mess that gets cancelled in the middle of the second season. Hopefully that doesn’t happen here 😭

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kookookokopeli Mar 19, 2026 +1

Three years between "seasons" is not a workable model. I've lost interest already. 'Bye Pluribis.

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-TheExtraMile- Mar 19, 2026 +1

I have never seen someone so talented casually destroy a show. The first season already was about as slow as any show could get and he keeps signaling that he has no f****** idea what to do now and whatever he will eventually decide to do will take many years to finish. As if the second season came somehow by surprise even after Apple ordered TWO F****** SEASONS from the start.

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thecaptiveman Mar 19, 2026 +1

People posting this title are shameless. Watch the interview on YouTube. He’s very clearly joking about the nuke.

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Vince Gilligan says he's no longer sure what to do with the [device] from the end of 'Pluribus' season one, and he's not sure when season two is coming, either

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