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PetyrDayne Apr 9, 2026 +392

Probably not

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NiceTrySuckaz Apr 9, 2026 +193

He should try submitting season two of pluribus to the viewers, and we'll sing his praises for months

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corvus_wulf Apr 13, 2026 +2

Remember when TV shows would have a 26 episode season and have season 2 ready to air a few months later

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oktaS0 Apr 9, 2026 +11

Was a banger of a pilot tho. Best episode and so well done.

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Lonely_Noyaaa Apr 9, 2026 +234

The guy has 23 Emmy nominations and four wins, but none of those are for writing or directing. That's like Spielberg never winning Best Director until he was 70.

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SteveBorden Apr 9, 2026 +68

Tv awards are a bit different in fairness, obviously he’s the showrunner so he’s in charge of it but often isn’t the credited director/writer. E.g. Ozymandias is considered the best episode of the show and he’s not credited as either, Moira Walley-Beckett won for writing. I think the showrunner award is for Oustanding Series

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Scared-Engineer-6218 Apr 9, 2026 +21

Exactly. Showrunner wins all awards by association.

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notches123 Apr 9, 2026 +18

Did you mean Scorcese? Because Spielberg won for Schindler's List when he was like 47. Scorcese was like 65 when he finally won, though.

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truthisfictionyt Apr 10, 2026

I think it was a hypothetical

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bumpersticker334 Apr 9, 2026 +2

I'm pretty sure he didn't actually direct most of Pluribus. I think the bulk of the writing wasn't by him either.

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braves-geek Apr 9, 2026 +331

No. Noah Wyle's The Pitt episode is probably a lock for direction.

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cloud_t Apr 9, 2026 -5

Depends. They may want to intentionally avoid the attention of the award due to ongoing litigation with the ER's creator estate.

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Big-Soup7013 Apr 9, 2026 +6

The Pitt has won a ton of awards

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esche92 Apr 9, 2026 +1

They already won a couple Emmys last year.

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power_sungod Apr 9, 2026 +42

Why? What's so good about it? (This isn't snark btw... just haven't seen the show)

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RODjij Apr 9, 2026 +69

Another thing seems to be a lot of viewers arent fans of the protagonist, Carol but thats intentionally from the writing. Probably setting up a tonal shift. She's written as a very self absorbed, almost unlikable character.

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tuberosum Apr 9, 2026 +29

Same is the case for Noah Wyle's character this season in particular. I mean, it makes sense in the scope of the season, but he is definitely not played in a likable way this time around.

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TL-PuLSe Apr 9, 2026 +7

We've had a season to become familiar with his character, and there is something very obviously bubbling under the surface this season and we're just waiting for it to be revealed. Very different from CA-RULL.

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AQuestionOfBlood Apr 9, 2026 +4

Not sure why you're being downvoted as it's true. Dr. Robby has a lot of >!untreated PTSD!< which makes most people retain sympathy for him, especially after he was more or less great last season (with a few hiccups). While I like Caroll, a *lot* of viewers and reviwers aren't fond of that type

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IHeldADandelion Apr 9, 2026 +3

I like her too, and there was a mention of "conversion therapy", so she has some trauma as well...I hope they explore this in the future and/or they find another way to get more people to be sympathetic to her plight. (On the other hand, she watched her wife die and most of humankind turn into contagious zombies, so I give her a HUGE pass for being "unlikeable" already, and it's a bit troublesome that's not enough for some people.)

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AQuestionOfBlood Apr 10, 2026 +2

Haha yeah, but it's pretty well established she was unlikeable before her wife bites it. Good point on the conversion therapy trauma though! Then again there's just always the elephant in the room that unfortunately, fewer people will be sympathetic to a female character who's unlikable generally, especially a lesbian. Robby is a charismatic white guy who a great many subconsciously or consciously (I consciously do, it's like Carter faked his death and created a new identity but is still basically himself lmao) associate with his role as Carter on ER. So all of that makes it a lot easier for more people to sympathize with him than Carol.

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trix_is_for_kids Apr 9, 2026

That’s exactly the point of my comment

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TL-PuLSe Apr 9, 2026 +1

Your comment?

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trix_is_for_kids Apr 9, 2026 +1

Woops replied to the wrong comment

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trix_is_for_kids Apr 9, 2026 -3

Yeah he’s been a d*** all season but at least the viewer can have some compassion for him. Carol is just unlikable from the get go

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afwaller Apr 9, 2026 +12

I quite like Carol and find her very interesting and a very real well written human. She isn't some idealized person, she has real emotions and real flaws, real behavior. I can understand her and why she does stuff.

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Twaam Apr 9, 2026 +1

So a any american doctor?

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throwaway112112312 Apr 9, 2026 -2

I feel like Carol was okay until she decides to sleep with that lady, then she becomes a mega-d***. Especially towards the guy from Paraguay she was insufferable. I know she is written that way deliberately, but it is not a good watch overall. I love Vince Gilligan but I won't come back for a second season.

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corvus_wulf Apr 13, 2026 +1

I won't likely either cause in 5 years I won't care

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braves-geek Apr 9, 2026 +9

It focuses on the nurses on the shift. There are some really great camera shots that the series hadn't really used before and he got emotion out of the entire cast.

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ObiBenShinobi Apr 9, 2026 +5

Wife has worked in an ER for 15 years, was a huge fan of ER(the show), but says The Pitt is the most accurate show on the subject she's ever seen. She's hooked, I'm hooked. Not a lot of "relationship" fluff that other Doctor shows have, although there is a bit to show links between characters. Mainly focuses on how the department is run and what has to be dealt with day in and day out. At times it feels like a bit of a documentary. Worth checking out for sure.

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Background-Jury-1914 Apr 9, 2026 -26

Compared to Pluribus… it has a direction, knows where it’s going, and doesn’t waste 1/3rd of the show runtime on indulgent sequences that are ultimately just filler

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Scared-Engineer-6218 Apr 9, 2026 +16

We are discussing one single episode from each show here.

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Muroid Apr 9, 2026 +4

Yeah, and while I don’t think their criticism is entirely unfounded for the season overall, that first episode really does not at all suffer from a lack of direction, in either sense of the word.

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Samanthacino Apr 9, 2026 +2

I 100% agree, but the first episode (the one in question) doesn’t suffer from this

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Prax150 Apr 9, 2026 -3

Just because you can't focus through slower moments in a show doesn't mean it lacks direction or that it's "filler." There is hardly a wasted moment on Pluribus, every shot has intent and it pretty clearly has a direction. It's just choosing to get there slower than other shows would.

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Background-Jury-1914 Apr 9, 2026 -1

Pluribus fans love to use this excuse. Like everyone who dislikes the show has TikTok brain or something. I love plenty of slower tv shows, movies and books. In fact it’s my favorite pace. The problem is Gilligan uses the same trick he used in Saul (a show I liked) quite frustratingly in Pluribus. We’re often seeing process with no relevance to any plot or character. It’s one thing if we’re watching a scam in action like in Saul but in Pluribus, it’s very clear they have an hour of tv to fill and only one character who has a real deep perspective we’re seeing the world through so they use extended sequences of, for example, a plane taking off just so kill time. Personally I like the premise but think it would have been stronger as a limited series with a closed loop and defined ending. I’m glad you like the show! And I’m fine not liking it. Waiting years between seasons with the creator admitting t they don’t know where they’re going would be frustrating to me but good luck!

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Prax150 Apr 9, 2026 +4

A lot of people who dislike this show and use the lame excuse that it's slow and full of filler are indeed suffering from tiktok brainrot even if that may or may not be the case for you personally. I have no problem with someone disliking a show, what's aggravating is walking into every thread about it just to hear literally the same mindless refrain that's almost never backed up with any real logic. Even now you you're doing it. Uing one example of a plane taking off (?) to prove that it's killing time? Like sure they went to the trouble of lifting a literal plane off the ground because they didn't know what else to do with 30 seconds of screen time? Are you serious? The episode run times vary wildly and Apple doesn't really have a set time it requires shows to fill. Half the episodes are 45 minutes or shorter, one's over 60. Gilligan's not going around telling his DP to film random planes to kill time. And recently Gilligan said he had a four season arc planned but admitted that season 2 writing wasn't going as well.

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Prestigious-Ad-2876 Apr 9, 2026 -9

Did you now enjoy watching Walter Jr. Eat breakfast for 5 minutes per episode? Do you question Vince?

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mr9025 Apr 9, 2026 -3

I’m gonna cut through a ton of impending comments and just recommend that you check it out. It’s supposedly very realistic and it’s very compelling. I have medical professional friends who find they get anxious watching it due to some of the realism. It’s one of my top ten series of all time.

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YouMeAndReneDupree Apr 9, 2026 -15

Why's everyone calling it that way? It's just The Pitt. Seems like an astroturfing campaign for Noah Wylie.

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Fryes Apr 9, 2026 +14

They were talking about the episode he directed.

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DrScitt Apr 9, 2026 +9

Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad Bad are so much better than Pluribus. If he didn’t win for one of those, no chance in hell Pluribus deserves it.

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CrippledCox Apr 11, 2026 +1

Ya but it could be a make up win for not giving him anything for Breaking Bad.

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DoctorDrangle Apr 9, 2026 +126

I like the show just fine, but I don't see it winning any significant awards.

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p-_ber Apr 9, 2026 +34

In the drama category, I think it’s playing second fiddle to The Pitt right now in terms of critical appeal, which means it’ll probably win some awards. Best Actress is probably its best shot. As for Gilligan himself, he’s a guaranteed nomination for writing and directing the first episode, but who knows how he’ll stack up to the competition.

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Nikclel Apr 9, 2026 +11

You think The Pitt wins two in a row? They’re not really doing anything different/better than last year

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darthllama Apr 9, 2026 +17

The Emmys have never shied away from awarding their same favorites every single year. TV shows aren’t really all that different season to season, that’s kind of the point of TV.

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p-_ber Apr 9, 2026 +9

I’m not really looking at this from an angle of which is better (Pluribus or Industry would be my vote in that scenario) but more of a voting body angle, and based on critical reception of The Pitt S2, I think more of the same won’t be something the voting body is going to hold against the show.

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notches123 Apr 9, 2026 +3

Industry really needs to finally break through. A few shows in the past broke through in their 4th season at the Emmys like Friday Night Lights, The Americans, and more recently Slow Horses. So, fingers crossed. Industry deserved to be nominated for best series last year and Ken Leung deserved a nomination for best actor as well.

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GaryTheCabalGuy Apr 9, 2026

Is it crazy to say that Kit Harrington deserves a nomination for supporting actor? He ate that role up

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abouttogivebirth Apr 9, 2026 +1

It's not crazy, he was almost as good in Industry as he was in Criminal (both roles are posh cunts surprise surprise) but Industry is a sex show and won't even be nominated

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GaryTheCabalGuy Apr 9, 2026 +8

It's better than Pluribus though , which ultimately I think a lot of people were a bit disappointed with. It's mostly just propped up by Gilligan's name at this point

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Nikclel Apr 9, 2026

Pluribus started so good but I still have faith in Vince. When Breaking Bad was slow it was SLOW.

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GaryTheCabalGuy Apr 9, 2026 +10

Breaking Bad was never as slow as Pluribus though outside of 1 episode. Pluribus would be like if the entirety of BB was the Fly episode

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BiggestBlackestLotus Apr 9, 2026 +6

The Fly wasn't slow. There was a lot of stuff happening, just restricted to mostly the underground lab. Meanwhile in Pluribus you have scenes where a character walks through a jungle with no obstacles and repeats the same sentence for 10 minutes.

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GaryTheCabalGuy Apr 9, 2026 +2

I'd say relative to the rest of the show it was slow, but yah that's fair that there was plenty of dialogue. In fact it was entirely dialogue driven.

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BiggestBlackestLotus Apr 9, 2026 +1

Well there's also the scene where Walt falls down 12 feet onto a metal container lol

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Even_Choice_1003 Apr 10, 2026 +1

OMG that scene through the jungle with the hispanic man made me so annoyed and i almost went like "just shut up already and go your way". The actor is great but the moment was bizarre. Same with the phone recording.

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metrize Apr 9, 2026 +2

yeah it’s almost like he just wanted to shoot some scenes and not actually write a story and then he cobbled something together honestly feels like ai slop like “just give me a bunch of scenes for a sci-fi”

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Weinerbrod_nice Apr 9, 2026 +3

I think his biggest motivation was to work with Rhea Seehorn again. So he had a half-baked idea, and that's the premise that he's running with. Which is probably why the series is like 50% filler.

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FluffyWuffyVolibear Apr 9, 2026 +3

Slow works when character behavior is so grounded in reality. Pluribus is just such a strange mix of sci fi apocalypse, Truman show and train dreams, and the performance at the center of it just doesn't have to juice to be the only real emotional hook for the audience.

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GepMalakai Apr 9, 2026 +1

There's also basically no source of conflict. Like, yes, on paper the Joined and Carol are at odds, but the hive mind is so agreeable and..passive...that all the drama is sustained by Carol being an ass. It's kind of exhausting to watch. Maybe that will change for season 2 now that there's another character in the mix, but we'll see.

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BiggestBlackestLotus Apr 9, 2026 +1

They're doing a lot of things worse actually. The second season feels like a bunch of unrelated episodes where as the first season had a far stronger storytelling pull throughout all of it.

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Big-Soup7013 Apr 9, 2026 +1

It doesn’t have to be better than last year, it has to be the best drama this year.

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notthatgeorge Apr 10, 2026 +1

They don't have to do anything different, that's how lazy the voters are

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Chataboutgames Apr 9, 2026 +1

No, but the hype train is still in full force

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ShootingStarPresss Apr 9, 2026 -1

It’s a realistic show, bud. Go watch Greys Anatomy if you want big season over season changes.

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DeckardsDark Apr 9, 2026 +10

this category is not for the whole show though - it's based on just an episode and he's submitting the pilot. i'm not too keen on the whole season as well, but the pilot was indeed very good

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smilysmilysmooch Apr 9, 2026 +2

I think it could win direction if people are looking at technical aspects. This shhow uses so many real locations and so many of them are lifeless. To plan and stage that would be a tall order so he might get nods even if I think the Pitt is doing something very similar with how they plan the extras and continuity shots in the ER. Too very competently directed shows imo.

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Upbeat_Tension_8077 Apr 9, 2026 +7

As much as I want Rhea Seehorn to finally get one, Katherine LaNasa is still tough competition if they'll both be competing in an Outstanding Lead Actress race

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WintersDoomsday Apr 9, 2026 +7

Huge Rhea fan but LaNasa absolutely whips her ass here. I blame the material to work with for both. Pluribus is a very average show.

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Big-Soup7013 Apr 9, 2026 +2

Seehorn is in practically every frame of pluribus though which is a huge difference.

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camspop Apr 9, 2026 -4

Insane take.

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World_Analyst Apr 9, 2026 +9

It really isn't

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camspop Apr 9, 2026 -1

Let’s start with that godawful accent for one. Rhea is the better actor and performance. LaNasa is going supporting, but if she was lead, there isn’t a competition.

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GaryTheCabalGuy Apr 9, 2026 +13

Similarly, I don't understand what makes Seehorn in Pluribus such a special performance. I wasn't wowed

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suitcasecalling Apr 9, 2026 -1

it's one of the most average shows of recent but like others have said.. its fine. its good. its worth watching. just very forgettable

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BiggestBlackestLotus Apr 9, 2026 +1

The SA survivor scenes were one of my parts of this season of the pitt which felt like the most on the nose social commentary possible. Like Sesame Street for adults. They served no real purpose in the story except for reminding us that SA is actually bad (hot take by the writers!) and tied up Dana's character for two entire episodes.

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notches123 Apr 9, 2026

LeNasa would be justified in switching to lead but it seems unlikely since she was submitted in supporting last year and her role is essentially the same. Agree there's a chance she beats Seehorn if she does submit lead but that is more to do with the Academy just not seeming to be a fan of Rhea for some reason. It took them forever to nominate her for supporting actress in Better Call Saul and she probably should have won one of the years she was nominated.

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Wedbo Apr 9, 2026 +2

The first episode of Pluribus is a banger. The rest is slow moving and hit or miss, but the first episode is what Vince would be submitted for

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Big-Soup7013 Apr 9, 2026 +1

I assume best actress personally

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TheJoshider10 Apr 9, 2026

Acting is the only thing it deserves nominations for. Every other category had far better in other shows.

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hungoverlord Apr 9, 2026

the first episode maybe could? i was absolutely blown away by the first episode. the rest of the show, not so much.

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seancbo Apr 9, 2026 +83

They should withhold it until he can tell them what he's actually gonna do with season 2

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Ironsam811 Apr 9, 2026 +12

“We aren’t sure whether this should be in the limited series category, therefore its consideration is on hold”

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SpiritualB0x3 Apr 9, 2026 +45

Season 2 will be full hour episodes of Carol having diarrhea because of bad food, another episode will be she is a long bath and reminiscing random c***, and the finale will be her watching the pilot of pluribus.

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ReserveFormal3910 Apr 9, 2026 +15

What's wrong with her on the toilet?! I'm tired of this generation tiktok brain rot that can't handle a slow burn! Better call Saul is 1000x better than BB because of the slow plot lines that makes you think!

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ian9outof10 Apr 9, 2026 -11

I’m going to respectfully disagree. As good as BCS is, it’s not as good as Breaking Bad. And if you rewatch S1 of BB, you’ll note it doesn’t exactly whip along, it’s incredibly ponderous.

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Yetimang Apr 9, 2026 +8

I think both shows are some of the best television in the history of the medium. Personally, I think BCS slightly wins out for me, but I would understand someone preferring BB. But to say that BB is "ponderous" is insane to me. The first episode alone sets things off at a ridiculous pace and things consistently escalate from there. I don't see how you could consider BB slow unless you're coming from a steady diet of tiktoks.

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aspirations27 Apr 10, 2026

BB definitely has slow moments in the first few seasons.

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Yetimang Apr 10, 2026

I mean it's not breakneck slamming forward all the time but that doesn't make it slow. This is what I'm talking about. Even a relatively fast paced show needs to have beats where it slows down. That's just good pacing. But now people are so brainrotted that anything that fails to sustain the pace of mainlining 10 second videos one after the other for even a brief moment is too slow. This is why we have to have trailers in front of trailers now.

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Samanthacino Apr 9, 2026 +7

The only somewhat ponderous episode of BB was The Fly, and it is widely considered the worst for a reason. Pluribus is like if you made 90% of a season The Fly, but less interesting.

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BiggestBlackestLotus Apr 9, 2026 +1

Watch the show again. It has clear ebbs and flows in terms of action. In season 1 for example it starts with a bang in the pilot and stays high tension until Walt finally brings himself to kill Krazy 8. The next two episodes are greatly slowed down and focus on Walt's condition until the action explodes again in episode 6 with the infamous "You think this is meth?" scene.

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ian9outof10 Apr 9, 2026 +1

I’m not going to get any agreement here. Perhaps ponderous is the wrong word, but rewatching s1 I was actually surprised at the pace. I had remembered it being faster, but as a whole season it isn’t rapid.

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ian9outof10 Apr 9, 2026

Is Dan Harmon writing S2 then 😁

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zuma15 Apr 9, 2026 -3

Tell him he won, but it won't be ready to pick up for 3 years.

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Johnnadawearsglasses Apr 9, 2026 +47

The idea was good but the show mediocre. It had the worst tendency of Gilligan to have several episodes where nothing of interest happens. I feel like you could’ve made a movie where the first half is the entire season and we would’ve lost nothing.

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tway2241 Apr 10, 2026 +1

It's been a while, but I don't recall any episodes of BCS or BB dragging like I felt Pluribus did. I didn't even mind the the fly episode of BB (not a favourite by any means, but I still found it a interesting watch).

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realblush Apr 9, 2026 +23

It's gonna be Pit against Pluribus for directing. Say what you want about pacing in Pluribus, but that first episode was absolutely perfect

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IrvinIrvingIII Apr 9, 2026 +1

Probably the best first episode I’ve seen since Lost.

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hackingdreams Apr 11, 2026 +1

One good episode verses fifteen back-to-back bangers of the best television of the year... yeah, stiff competition.

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realblush Apr 11, 2026 +3

I mean that is how the Emmy's work, for directing they only send in one episode, not an entire season

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abouttogivebirth Apr 9, 2026

AKOTSK Ep5 riding in and knocking the Pitt and Pluribus off their high horses

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ElectricSheep451 Apr 9, 2026 +58

I'm sorry, I know criticizing pluribus on this sublistnook is illegal and means I must be a tiktok brained idiot with no attention span... But if he didn't win for breaking bad or bcs no way in hell should this show win anything. It was incredibly indulgent and slow, and the main character wasn't strong enough to basically carry the whole show on her back. There was much better TV that has come out since then.

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moneymoneymoneymonay Apr 9, 2026 +15

I agree. I give it a lot of credit for practical technical achievements in virtually every episode (unstocking and restocking a whole grocery store, following that guy on his journey up from Paraguay, etc) but did the show have that much actual substance?? Maybe I am just dumb but I didn’t get it. Vince has bought a lifetime of good will though so I am still on board, but it is a helluva difficult show to connect with.

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Khiva Apr 9, 2026 -1

They took a high-concept sci-fi idea that has been done almost to death and dialed it aaaaaaaaaaaall the way down to a focused, deliberate character study with both a plot and character that refused to satisfy. Ask ten people what they'd do in Carol's shoes - I have, it's interesting - and you're likely to get 10 different answers. There's an entire subtext regarding the cycles of abuse that I found absolutely devastating.

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blarbiegorl Apr 9, 2026 -3

It's literally a show about grief and trauma and I'm not sure why nobody gets that.

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Khiva Apr 10, 2026 +3

Downvoted for a genuine and accurate response. Classic. You're right. It's about grief and mourning. It's also about how different people would respond to the Faustian bargain offered by the hive. It's also about the cycles of abuse. I understand it won't be for everyone, what I understand less is people getting angry when it's explained.

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blarbiegorl Apr 10, 2026 +1

Thanks, I don't get it either! Oh well lol.

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GaseousEnigma Apr 9, 2026 +10

And the main character makes no sense. One second she completely hates and distrusts all the infected people, the next she’s completely in love with one of them and has basically forgotten her long-term girlfriend who died a few days ago. And then there’s only one other uninfected person who acts anywhere near appropriate and he still acts stupid and unrealistic worrying about paying and being a good lil boy when it’s the end of the human species.I think the story and characters are very poorly done.

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GeneralTonic Apr 9, 2026 +3

Right? If everyone in the world became a hive mind except for two, I think those people would act just like you, not like Carol and Manuoso. Obviously.

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Idk_Very_Much Apr 9, 2026 +2

> One second she completely hates and distrusts all the infected people, the next she’s completely in love with one of them and has basically forgotten her long-term girlfriend who died a few days ago. There is an *entire episode* about this transition which takes place over a month, funnily enough the one that has the most people saying "nothing happened" in it.

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Khiva Apr 10, 2026 +2

*Main character finds out she's been ghosted by all people, including both hive and human.* *Main character attempts to do cheerful things but is so obviously glum she nearly lets a rocket shoot her in the face.* Clearly hits rock bottom. Begs the hive to come back just to feel something resembling human contact. "For no reason."

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blarbiegorl Apr 9, 2026 -1

She is grieving and alone. She is traumatized. She is angry and sad and desperate. Of course she will change her attitude toward her captors over time. What choice does one have? Not everyone responds the same way.

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Gyshall669 Apr 9, 2026 +1

Bcs And breaking bad were up against significantly better shows. Though I agree, it probably won’t win.

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notches123 Apr 9, 2026

BCS never won a single Emmy, so for whatever reason it wasn't as beloved by them as some fans think they should have. No idea if Pluribus will or won't be received as well as either show right now but they have the benefit of it being a pretty thin field at least. Biggest competition is The Pitt which it's hard to tell if they want to reward it heavily two years in a row. It'll be interesting to see how nominations play out.

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YourGuyK Apr 9, 2026 +15

I don't think Pluribus was as good as everyone wants it to be. It has a very good lead actress, which is why it's worth watching.

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ILoveRegenHealth Apr 9, 2026 +15

The first episode was good. Actually felt crisp, smart, chilling, original and exciting. But everything after it was a trail of toilet paper stuck to the shoe. I'll never watch any of the episodes again unlike BB/BCS which will be rewatched multiple times.

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Czarcasm21 Apr 9, 2026 +19

I loved *Better Call Saul* even more than I loved *Breaking Bad*, but I wouldn't even nominate *Pluribus* as one of the best shows of the year, if it were up to me. Such a strange choice to limit your cast in such a way, then fill it with mostly nondescript and largely uninteresting characters. It really hampered both the storytelling and the audiences ability to engage with the show on an intellectual level (at least, it did for me and seemingly many others).

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GepMalakai Apr 9, 2026 +5

I'm a "many others" over here, if it helps.

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SeekingTheRoad Apr 9, 2026 +6

He might win for one of the next three seasons over the next 15 years. W***** for season 3 directing in 2041.

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lockdown_lard Apr 9, 2026 +8

The entirety of series 1 has just enough plot for the first hour of a very good film.

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randomnate Apr 9, 2026 +5

I thought Pluribus was pretty flawed, but most of the issues I had with it were with later episodes—the Pilot was phenomenal and if he’s being judged purely on that one episode he should win imo

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JackhorseBowman Apr 9, 2026 +10

I very much like Vince, and BB, and BCS, and Seahorn, but Pluribus was an exercise in patience. The second episode already seemed like a parody of the common criticisms of Vince, just a group of unnamed people silently grabbing bodies and loading them into a truck for 15 straight minutes, meanwhile you got everyone citing this very scene for why Gilligan is a genius. Anyway it's $4 a pound.

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frankduxvandamme Apr 9, 2026 +9

1. Barely anything happened in season 1, so no, it shouldn't win awards for writing or directing. 2. Who even cares about Emmys? I've never in my life started watching a show just because it recently won an Emmy.

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taydraisabot Apr 9, 2026 +1

Society if the TV industry stopped revolving around Emmys: ☀️🦋🌷🖼️

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Hermiona1 Apr 9, 2026 +2

I think Pilot is the best episode. I hope he wins.

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tuberosum Apr 9, 2026 +8

On the whole I liked Pluribus. But I really don't see how this is going to go as a multiseason series. Season 1 did drag on at points where we had whole episodes of Carol learning things by brute force and investigation that she could have learned by just asking. And I have no idea what the point of the ending of season 1 was. And considering I read an article a little while ago where it said that Vince Gilligan changed that one detail at the very end late in the game, I don't think even Vince Gilligan knows what the point of the ending of season 1 was. Giving me even less of a hope for a multiseason series being something exceptionally good.

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StygianSavior Apr 9, 2026 +2

> I don't think even Vince Gilligan knows what the point of the ending of season 1 was. Giving me even less of a hope for a multiseason series being something exceptionally good. Worth pointing out that in Breaking Bad, the original plan was for Jesse to be murdered by rival dealers in season 1. This only ended up getting changed due to a writer’s strike forcing them to shorten the season and Aaron Paul’s performance convincing them to change their plans mid-production. Gilligan also famously did not know what the machine gun Walt bought would be used for when filming the scene where Walt buys it from the gun dealer in that Denny’s. So Gilligan saying that he was changing details for the season 1 ending as they were filming is not necessarily unusual or a red flag.

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Samanthacino Apr 9, 2026 +2

The HDP investigation and subsequent reveal was so frustrating. It was the type of thing that should have been obvious from the jump, and watching a character laboriously figure out said reveal when regular intuition should have thought of that was irritating as hell. Not to mention the incredible anticlimax of the reveal.

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EuphoricMidnight3304 Apr 9, 2026 +6

It’s boring and slow

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Noarchsf Apr 9, 2026 +2

Makes sense, as the pilot was the only interesting episode.

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riedmae Apr 9, 2026 +2

And the award for best show where nothing really happens and the main character is insufferable goes to.....

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MrShoveyShove Apr 9, 2026 +1

What about acting? He was robbed for his role in the grounbreaking VHS game Pile of Bullets.

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Nullhitter Apr 9, 2026 +1

This was the moment when Gilligan submitted a show for an Emmy award. Bravo, Vince.

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RockerDawg Apr 9, 2026 +1

Wait Vince hasn’t won for either? That’s a joke

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Zealousideal-Ad-4167 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Yes. Pluribus is beautifully directed.

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IvyGold Apr 10, 2026 +1

Hello, Vince. This is a recording. At the tone, you can leave a message to request anything you might need. We'll do our best to provide it. Our feelings for you haven't changed, Vince. But after everything that's happened, we just need a little space.

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Significant-Roll-138 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Pluribus was a good idea but badly directed in my opinion, it had too many episodes, scenes that were drawn out just a bit too long, repetitive story points and predictable gags. It’s a good show but not a great show.

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shadowst17 Apr 10, 2026 +1

He knows that if he submitted any of the other episodes the Emmy judges would have fallen asleep. That first episode was so good and decently paced. Shame the rest of the season didn't live up to that.

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FunkLov Apr 10, 2026 +1

It's a good ride, but it's no breaking bad. Entertaining and thoughtful, but it's nothing terribly original and the characters (well, there's kind of only one) is nicely performed and crafted, but it's not really profoundly creative or anything. It's a good show. It should be seen. However it's not setting a high bar in any way.

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spacemcdonalds Apr 10, 2026 +1

Pilot's probably the only really good episode. Hope he does!

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zumera Apr 13, 2026 +1

The pilot episode was my favorite of the season, so…maybe.

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fullmoon63 Apr 9, 2026 -2

Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul were masterclasses. The man is overdue.

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Disgruntled_Smitty Apr 9, 2026 +13

Pluribus on the other hand is a swing and a miss imo

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camspop Apr 9, 2026 +1

Absolutely insane one of the most successful writers and showrunners of all times never won an Emmy. It’s hard to take them seriously.

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flearhcp97 Apr 9, 2026

hopefully not

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SabrinoRogerio Apr 9, 2026 -1

No.

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diener1 Apr 9, 2026 +1

I watched the pilot and it didn't really grip me.

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Gumbercules81 Apr 9, 2026 +1

I swear to God that show is like the Starfield of television

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Krow101 Apr 9, 2026 +1

And the Emmy for Most Boring Show goes to ................

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Cobby1927 Apr 9, 2026 +1

It sucked.

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smkdog420 Apr 9, 2026 +1

Season 1 was poop

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Pickupyoheel Apr 9, 2026

Hopefully not, cause even the pilot was whack.

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McZalion Apr 9, 2026 +1

Wait he never won ?

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rukkus78 Apr 9, 2026 +1

i wish i liked this show more. love all his other stuff, but found my mind wandering or wanting to check my phone during this.

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Chemical-Sundae2609 Apr 9, 2026

That would require a good show…pluribus aint it

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AVBforPrez Apr 9, 2026 -8

Nah, the show sucks and he basically admitted on record that he had/has no idea where he's going with it. Not to mention Carol is an awful main character with zero redeeming qualities for people to root for. If anything, he should win an award for torching a decent overall concept in a single pilot episode. It's Body Snatchers but run through ChatCPT with a self insert main character.

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Navreal Apr 9, 2026 +6

But don’t you get it?? Carol is SUPPOSED to be insufferable and grating. You clearly can’t appreciate good writing.

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AVBforPrez Apr 9, 2026 +1

Love this take, you must be right, runner.

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thearctican Apr 9, 2026 -3

Pluribus is unappealing in a lot of ways for me. Mostly because it's an Apple TV show.

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OhMyke Apr 9, 2026

Wait he has not won anything? Not even for Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul???

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LikeAPwny Apr 9, 2026

Good episode but theres better

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davidbernhardt Apr 9, 2026

He’s already the people’s champ!

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A_Lively Apr 9, 2026

I liked it ok, though I think he's capable of much better. Enjoyed Rings of Power a lot more (which sounds like me trolling, but I'm attempting to contrast a show that the internet tells me I should love, with a show that the internet tells me that I should hate, and in practice I'm experiencing the opposite).

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RoboticApeHologram Apr 9, 2026

God I hope not. That show sucks

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pike360 Apr 9, 2026

God the trolls are exhausting.

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Wise_Guitar2059 Apr 9, 2026 -2

I hope not.

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camspop Apr 9, 2026 -6

The hate for Pluribus here is insane, but it’s typical of the quality of TV nowadays. Peak TV of meticulous and cinematic storytelling with the likes of The Leftovers, Better Call Saul, The Americans, Mad Men is clearly over. The fact that The Pitt is getting all this praise for its second season and it’s impossible to criticize it on here, a network procedural that’s at best a perfected formula, really says it all.

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Spicy_Ahoy86 Apr 9, 2026 +10

Your comment gives "you have to a high IQ to understand Rock & Morty" vibes lol. There is still a market for shows like Better Call Saul and Mad Men. And as someone who adores both BCS and Mad Men, Pluribus was a complete miss for me.

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camspop Apr 9, 2026 +6

There absolutely is not. The fact is, you can’t even criticize The Pitt without getting downvoted here. It’s treated as this perfect piece of television despite clear flaws and it not holding up against the best TV’s had to offer over the past 15-20 years.

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Spicy_Ahoy86 Apr 9, 2026 +1

For what it's worth, I don't disagree with you regarding The Pitt having flaws. It's a solid B+/A- show to me. It being a procedural show probably alleviates *a lot* of stress in the writers room/makes it less challenging to write than something like Mad Men. Specific critique: It makes sense within the context of the show (and it being a single shift), but Robbie's depression has felt wayyy to drawn out/repetitive this season. It feels like every episode has at least two to three interactions where... - Robbie says or does something out of line - co-worker confronts him about it - Robbie acts like he is about to speak up only to either angrily shake his head or leave the scene to care for a new patient. Rinse and repeat.

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bartelbyfloats Apr 9, 2026 +7

There is not enough story to sustain a season of Pluribus, yet alone two or more. Is it beautifully made? Well acted? Yes. But is it as smart or interesting as it thinks it is? No.

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cireh88 Apr 9, 2026 -7

Nope - The Pitt is operating on a different level than anything else on tv rn It’s the most “tv show” tv show on television

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teffarf Apr 9, 2026 +2

Is it better than House?

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guitarguy1685 Apr 9, 2026

I guess man. I like the Pitt alot, but it does seem that half of every episode is Doctor speak, yelling "intubate!" It's a good show though

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Nikclel Apr 9, 2026 +5

I can’t get past how everyone, even the patients, take turns speaking one at a time until everyone’s had their turn… every single scene.

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Tossawaysfbay Apr 9, 2026 -1

Ah, the one episode show that was good and had interesting plot/acting? It’s so weird he replaced the show with that other one after the pilot.

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LionBig1760 Apr 9, 2026 -1

After this series is over, someone should recut it into a trilogy of 2 hour movies. We won't have to wait 8 hour long episodes to find out that Carol managed to learn 5 things about the hive.

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TheTwoOneFive Apr 9, 2026

Will Vince Gilligan be recognized for writing or directing before [his brother Ira's name is recognized by George Bluth, Sr?](https://youtu.be/X-EWSTH_224?si=7ZM6NdJ-FmYDU2F2)

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Flimsy-Island-8528 Apr 9, 2026 -10

The show checks off a couple of minority quota boxes on a checklist.. I'm sure its gonna win something at the Emmys..

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A_man_named_despair Apr 9, 2026 +3

Oh no! Brown people on screen! 😱

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Flimsy-Island-8528 Apr 9, 2026 -5

Ah, just saw the downvotes, that's where you idiots are taking this. LOL. I don't recall the last time a film or a TV series won on merit. Everyone knows that those Academy voters aren't even watching the films they vote for. I doubt these Emmy voters watch their stuff either. Voting just on pure vibes, marketing, and buzzwords; whatever the hottest political topic in hollywood is at the time. >Oh no! Brown people on the screen! I am brown. Its not the representation I want where awards and recognitions are mere pandering to a particular online fanbase on twitter, where you race swap or gender swap an established character while denying opportunities to original material created by people of color trying to get a break.

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A_man_named_despair Apr 9, 2026 +4

You literally said “minority quotas”. How else are people supposed to take it? Okay. But Pluribus is an original show. There is no race swapping going on. It’s also a show with global implications (virus taking over the world) so there are people from other races and ethnicities represented. It’s far from the type of production you’re talking about.

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kdubstep Apr 9, 2026 -1

He doesn’t need awards. We the fans know his worth. Him not having won speaks more to how stupid the awards are than it does to his merit

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