Wait, Did the Democrats Just Win a Government Shutdown Fight?

Remember when dems had a super majority for like 20 days and we got the ACA out of it?

> GOP in control of all 3 branches and everything goes to shit You're really underselling just how in control GOP of this country are so let's go down the list because... Republicans control: The Presidency (and thus, the entire executive branch especially after the major "reforms" they pushed to push out alleged liberal employees). A solid majority in the supreme court The entire federal congress A majority of Federal court positions. 28 state legislatures. Over 26 state governerships Basically every law enforcement agency from federal down to local is strongly skewed conservative 35 of the largest cities in the country have Republican mayors Local governments tend to skew conservative, especially in more rural areas, and there's over 90,000 different local governance bodies in America. So when you take all of this together, the material fact of reality is that in this moment, if you hate where the country is right now, there's literally only one possible culprit, and its the f****** Republicans. They run this entire show from top to bottom. They run everything from how the laws are made, to how they are enforced, and how your cities are ran, and how your states are ran, and how your federal government conducts its business. We are a Republican nation, and this is the results you got. This is what conservative leadership results in.

Hell, they’re in charge of 4 of the 3 branches of government when you include the wealthy elite.

Mike Johnson just blamed Democrats

Americans are extremely dumb. They will always blame the Democrats

For the most part I agree with this but there is a caveat I think worth pointing out: There were times Democrats controlled all three branches but literally couldn't get anything done because thanks mostly to McConnell, they were able to obstruct any legislation by way of a "lazy filibuster." If the minority can sabotage necessary progress, that's a problem. Besides, I thought Trump was some genius "art of the deal" maker? If he can't persuade Dems then, he's a failure. On the other hand, if the minority can impede fascism, that's a perk. Thus these are not the same and require a case by case analysis by his own standard, right?

Go look at the instagram/facebook comments about this. MAGA 100% blames democrats.

The people that voted for all of this, or the people that refused to vote against it? The corrupt system? Outside factors that have been complicit with everything?

Fox "News" will find a way.

Just look up the number of US shutdowns in history then look how many have been under trump.

They will blame Biden.

Seriously f*** all mainstream media and their bullshit headlines.

It is actually even better if Trump is raiding ICE’s piggy bank to find other departments. Coast Guard, CISA, Secret Service are all without funding in addition to TSA.  Removing the public pressure to allocate funding, while reducing ICE reserve funds- perfect.  Nobody should fight Trump on this misappropriation of funds. Let him do it. I mean, complain so he feels good about it- but, no lawsuits.  When (if) they do eventually appropriate funds for DHS, just make sure ICE can not be reimbursed for any of these unlawful expenditures.  Personally, I think Democrats just got a free ticket to demand DHS be split back up into separate agencies. It was obviously too much for Noam, and I can’t see the plumber replacement selling the idea that he should have this much power.  Let’s just take the win. 

Eh, in those seven months there will be about 500 things that happen. Most Americans seem to have the brain retention of a guppy and with Fox Entertainment being the channel most people turn on for their entire lives, this will be forgotten by the time kids are finishing their Easter candy.

House republicans didn't pass the bill, though? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/27/dhs-funding-house-tsa/

You say that, but Republicans caused the 2013 shutdown right before a midterm election.  Context: Republicans had been trying to repeal Obamacare for years. It wasn’t working legislatively, they didn’t have the votes. So they came up with an idea. Either you fund the government and remove Obamacare, or the country goes into shutdown and everyone suffers!  Basically what you’d expect a terrorist holding a gun to someone’s head would say.  Democrats who had the majority in the senate said “no” and we shutdown.  Eventually Republicans caved and passed a clean funding bill, but what do you think voters did?  Why reward Republicans of course! Voters in 2014 gave more House seats to Republicans and gave the Republicans the Senate.  Americans just don’t pay attention to this shit sadly. It’s why we have the government we have.  Although this time is likely different. People see the incompetence and the chaos. They blame those in power, but that’s the default mode.  In a way, it’s kind of fortunate that Democrats have no power in federal government. No one else to blame but Republicans as the default.   But I bet you the American voter won’t remember this. They didn’t remember the last 5 or 6 times so why would this be different. 

Meanwhile, the House of Mr. Johnson said he refused to bring to vote on the bill sent to them from the Senate so the shutdown continues.

>Real stupid considering the midterms are in 7 months. They don't expect to be voted out. It's that simple. The SAVE Act will pass, SCOTUS will overturn the Voting Rights Act, Elon Musk will f*** with voting machines again, ICE will be present in swing districts, the post office will lose mail in ballots or just hold them in blue areas until after the election, voter rolls across the nation will be purged, red districts won't accept election results they lose, and so on. Voting may not save us from this administration anymore.

Lol the average American voter has the brain of a below-average goldfish, they aren’t remembering this for 7 months. Most of them can’t remember the thought they had 7 min ago sadly

I thought ICE had all the funding they needed from the bill that got passed last year? https://www.cato.org/blog/one-big-beautiful-bill-made-ice-shutdown-proof-eroded-fiscal-norms

Trump already signed an executive order to pay the TSA. He just bypassed the budget, lol. Edit: Why are you people arguing with the reality of what happened?

Yeah. The politicians are playing games while the average person is just getting screwed over. This is the only timeline I can imagine that I'm rooting for the TSA.

Pedos prosper

Yeah. I mean I get how Dems getting a win is good because we gotta get these GOP/MAGA folks out of power come November….. but this is our country. I’m not going to celebrate dysfunction

But at this point because of the senate there’s no longer a debate who owns this. In theory at least (haven’t seen how Fox will spin it)

Which is what I'd expect considering Republicans can pass things in the House without any Democratic votes, but not in the Senate.

Yep, you would be correct, the news has just been updated that Mike Johnson made sure this was shot down and as an additional bonus he has put the house on recess for two weeks. That way they can stay quiet when the boots hit the ground in Iran.

Trump caved and is paying TSA. It’s a major democrat win.

Remember the 6 during their primaries.

That would give richer members more negotiating power than poorer ones.

“I want the middle class to be unable to serve in congress at the federal level” Is what this take amounts to

I don’t agree with not paying them, only because I think it would hurt some and the others would exploit it, but I do think it would be interesting if their job was on the line. If you don’t show up to work, maybe you get fired. Kind of like other jobs.

I would argue that if Congress cannot do one of their most fundamental yearly requirements (establishing a budget to fund the government's operations), they all lose their damn jobs immediately and we have a snap election in which none of them can run to replace them with another group who hopefully *will* do the bare minimum of their jobs. Obviously there's zero support in law for this and it would require a Consitutional amendment, but it seems sensible to me, at least.

There is, because republicans just blocked the bill in the house and now ICE funding is going to be allocated in legally dubious ways to TSA. Its not going to cause ICE to run out of funding, but that's a victory in itself. All the other context around it are also big wins. Forcing Trump to overextend his power of the purse, forcing republicans to pass the revision on party lines, and bringing up questions like "if trump could pay us this whole time, was he just holding our paychecks hostage?" Just the basic act of forcing republicans to take responsibility and actually govern is huge and possibly the best outcome the left can hope for as the minority party.

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I can’t believe the house was like nope and then they all left for a two week break while they get paid. Our politicians are the biggest joke