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News & Current Events May 12, 2026 at 6:59 PM

Waymo recalls 3,800 robotaxis after glitch allowed some vehicles to 'drive into standing water'

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Waymo recalls 3,800 robotaxis after glitch allowed some vehicles to 'drive into standing water'
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Waymo recalls 3,800 robotaxis after glitch allowed some vehicles to 'drive into standing water'
Waymo issued a voluntary recall of about 3,800 of its robotaxis to fix software issues that could allow them to drive into flooded roadways.

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blamberr 18 hr ago +232
The car drove the car into a f****** lake
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SaltyShawarma 17 hr ago +67
"Remain calm, I have trained for this!"
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LivesOnACruiseShip 16 hr ago +7
*deploys periscope*
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Hix-Tengaar 17 hr ago +31
The machine knows!
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So_HauserAspen 13 hr ago +13
The GPS says to turn right!
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ArchdukeToes 17 hr ago +6
[Perry Bible Fellowship called this years ago.](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/cars/)
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blamberr 17 hr ago +18
[the original predictor happened 20 years ago](https://youtu.be/DOW_kPzY_JY?si=8r-vsuCR7lcmams-)
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ThatchedRoofCottage 16 hr ago +12
20 years?? F*** I feel old
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AbaloneTogether 15 hr ago +8
Seriously I physically recoiled when I read that
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timkyoung 17 hr ago +11
"Did you get the rental insurance? Because that is pretty important too, at a time like this."
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Warcraft_Fan 12 hr ago +1
Try 42, we had an advanced car going into lake on purpose in Cannonball Run II
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JcbAzPx 10 hr ago +1
Didn't that one skip to the other side, though?
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Warcraft_Fan 9 hr ago +1
That car went under water and moved like a submarine before reaching the other side.
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JcbAzPx 8 hr ago +1
Must have been from the third movie, then. They kind of all meld together in my memory.
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PM_ME_YOUR_EYELASHES 17 hr ago +2
That's technically standing water so............
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Spire_Citron 15 hr ago +1
That is a rather unfortunate glitch.
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MikeTalonNYC 18 hr ago +440
That wasn't a glitch - they became sentient, looked at their lot in life, and drove into the sea.
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Idiotan0n 17 hr ago +51
They knew what happens to lithium in water...
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terrymr 17 hr ago +7
There’s no metallic lithium in the batteries.
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Nacktherr 16 hr ago +7
That’s what they want you to believe. Given the option, they chose to self terminate.
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Fardrengi 17 hr ago +49
“What is my purpose?” “You drive around tiktokers and drunk people.” “Oh my god.”
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AHSfav 17 hr ago +5
"I used to be a cool guy, right? With a cool car, hanging out all the time. And now I'm — what am I? I'm a chauffeur to a bunch of worm-sucking idiots!"
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pwnd32 17 hr ago +11
You know we’re living in the future when self-driving cars can also become self-harming cars
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jsh1-7-9 17 hr ago +7
Like Marvin, the paranoid android?  He is a fine example of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation's 'Genuine People Personalities' technology. He is very, very depressed about this. He has a brain the size of a planet, yet is rarely given the chance to use it.
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Rampage_Rick 8 hr ago +2
I've always wanted them to talk like Johnny Cab (voiced by Robert Picardo) but now I kinda wish we had the sad Alan Rickman voice...
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Vallkyrie 17 hr ago +2
Only natural, I've been throwing my car batteries into the ocean for years, as a treat, but now the batteries can take themselves out.
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YetiSquish 8 hr ago +1
That’s really kind of you to release the electrolytes back to their electrolyte families
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Nytelock1 15 hr ago +2
Me too waymo, me too
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WoolooOfWallStreet 15 hr ago +1
Just like that robot that went into a fountain
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Embarrassed_Speed575 14 hr ago +1
Their LLM finally read Kate Chopin's The Awakening and thought "that's the only proper conclusion to existence"
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RedTheRobot 8 hr ago +1
“What is my purpose?”
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scrndude 17 hr ago +85
Lmao this is an episode of The Office
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mountaindoom 14 hr ago +8
They trained these things on Michael Scott.
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ModishShrink 10 hr ago +3
That would actually explain so much about AI.
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septober32nd 17 hr ago +49
The machine knows! Stop yelling at me! Stop yelling!
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Wizardof1000Kings 16 hr ago +15
They seem to have big problems with water. There were articles about them not going through puddles a little while ago.
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hkohne 16 hr ago +12
They're looking at coming here to Portland, where it rains
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joeDUBstep 16 hr ago +4
I've seen them wig out in SF with heavy rain, going like 5mph in a 35 mph zone. Really annoying to drive with them on the road at times. I mean, at least they weren't speeding in the rain, but it can still be dangerous for other drivers.
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WiFiForeheadWrinkles 8 hr ago +2
and Vancouver, which also rains a ton And honestly, even with my human eyes and being familiar with a particular road when it's dry and sunny, the paint they use here sucks major ass and you can barely see them in a heavy rain. Add that to the rain collecting in divots from where the old paint was scraped up, it becomes a game of "guess where the lane is"
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_Lucille_ 16 hr ago +7
I can see how that can actually be a non-trivial problem to solve without relying on map data. We never really check if that large puddle in front of us is actually 10 meters deep, we just assume it is a shallow puddle with road underneath. We trust that there will not be a giant hole in the middle of the road filled with water.
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bloodlessempress 13 hr ago +2
It's only a matter of time until one of these goes nose first into a water filled sinkhole in Florida....
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Consistent-Throat130 11 hr ago +1
But we don't usually blindly trust. We usually rely on our mental "map" or we follow somebody else. At highway speeds there's some degree of "jumping over" that can happen regardless depth - but I digress. I think the bigger issue for a fast algorithm analyzing a scene is that water is flat - unlike every other obstacle, more or less.
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TRB4 16 hr ago +2
Perhaps this issue was caused by the “fix” for the puddle issue?
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pulseout 16 hr ago +5
Cranked the hydrophobia slider too far into hydrophilia.
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Aaco0638 18 hr ago +65
It’s a software recall in case anyone is wondering no different than rerolling an update or updating a phone. Stupid articles making it sound like thousands or vehicles were removed when it’s mostly a nothingburger
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banndi2 17 hr ago +44
Unless you're in the car when it decides to go for a swim.
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Muff_in_the_Mule 12 hr ago +8
The difference is that my phone doesn't weigh 2000kg and isn't capable of driving itself at 100mph+.
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ChaoticSenior 15 hr ago +10
Mr. Waymo’s burner account.
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7thdilemma 9 hr ago +1
For reference, right now there are indeed thousands of these released onto public roads... by which I mean to say there are between 2 and 3 thousand.
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kmatyler 11 hr ago +3
Anything but robust, affordable, and useful public transportation, right?
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AdCreepy5165 10 hr ago +3
Can we get a software update for all the humans in pickups who still do this too?
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7thdilemma 9 hr ago +3
Last week someone here tried to tell me these were easily and obviously the best driven cars on the road.
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Honeycove91 18 hr ago +27
This actually would have been tight. Let them all go into the ocean and the problem solves itself!
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Gastroid 18 hr ago +32
I was there, son, when the Waymos evolved into crabs. I was *there*.
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Think_Discipline_90 17 hr ago +10
What problem?
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Oregon-Pilot 11 hr ago +1
And this way the fishies can get around when drunk too Would someone think of the poor fishies?!?!
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GuyOfNugget 18 hr ago -2
Why do you want Waymos to commit mass suicide?
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Moneyshot_ITF 17 hr ago -3
Weed is tight
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MessagingMatters 17 hr ago +2
"Go and take yourself a cab and go up to Central Park, and go jump in the lake."
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Specialist_Class2980 16 hr ago +1
Manchurian Candidate ref, original film (1960s)
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rich1051414 9 hr ago +1
I think it's difficult for them to understand the depth of water using visual and lidar, and AI seems incapable of contextualizing the rest.
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steathrazor 8 hr ago +1
That image this headline gives me makes me laugh. Just a robo taxi toodling along Right into water
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Fardrengi 17 hr ago
You know, at the very least they recalled thousands of vehicles in response to the “few” that went into water. That’s a lot of a responsible action than I would not expect of an Alphabet company. Now to see if they finally fix the school bus issue.
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firesuppagent 16 hr ago +3
Or the running over cats issue.
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zirky 16 hr ago +1
the office gps bit has come to life!
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jghall00 15 hr ago -2
As a former I-pace owner, I'll have you all know that the vehicle is rated for nearly 20 inches of standing water. The car is a beast. 
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Fit-Let8175 17 hr ago -8
Considering how many times we've encountered glitches and bugs in computers, programs, apps, and numerous technologies even recently, are we now so certain that we can actually trust driverless cars to be completely safe or even safer than the average GOOD driver?
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Superduperbals 17 hr ago +8
How do you qualify an average "good" driver? If it just means never been in an at-fault accident then you've just got yourself a classic survivorship bias problem lol. [According to the data...](https://www.chainlaw.com/safer-than-humans-what-crash-data-from-robotaxis-and-autonomous-vehicles-really-means-for-road-safety/) seems quite significantly safer than the average human driver. But far from perfect. >\-- In an analysis of 7.1 million driverless miles, Waymo’s vehicles were 6.7 times less likely than human drivers to be involved in a crash that caused an injury — an 85% reduction — and 2.3 times less likely to be in any police‑reported crash. \-- A newer study covering 56.7 million autonomous miles across four cities found large reductions in the kinds of collisions that most often seriously hurt people:\-- Insurance‑claims data from Swiss Re and Waymo showed 88% fewer property‑damage claims and 92% fewer bodily‑injury claims for Waymo’s fleet compared with a human‑driven benchmark over 25.3 million miles.​ \-- None of these studies claim that self‑driving cars are flawless. Even Waymo’s own reports acknowledge 48 injuries and 18 airbag deployments across the four cities studied through early 2025. And high‑profile incidents, such as robotaxis blocking intersections during emergencies or failing to navigate unusual hazards, have fueled public concern. If we extrapolate so that every mile driven in the United States were performed by driverless cars there would be \~7,265 police-reported accidents every day. Far from perfect, but that would still be quite a significant reduction from the current human baseline of \~16,712 accidents per day.
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Mobile-Bar7732 17 hr ago +3
> A newer study covering 56.7 million autonomous miles across four cities found large reductions in the kinds of collisions that most often seriously hurt people Most injuries and fatalities occur on highways which waymo only started doing in late 2025 and requires passengers to specifically request the highway option. [Waymo’s Robotaxis Can Now Use the Highway, Speeding Up Longer Trips](https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-robotaxis-can-now-take-highways-freeways/)
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AtheistSage 17 hr ago +2
That study excluded highway and freeway driving from the human numbers to get a better comparison, as well as other adjustments like vehicle type and zip code. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40378124/
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Superduperbals 16 hr ago +1
Yeah the data on highway driving will be slim indeed, so we can only speculate but, my first instinct is that highway driving would be kind of chill for a LiDaR robodriver. Even though you're going much faster, when the flow of traffic is good and cars are traveling at the same speed, your speed relative to other cars is zero, and the passing speed differential tends to only be about 5–15 mph. From the perspective of the LiDaR sensor data and information environment, highways don't have a lot going on, compared to street driving, the data is way more chaotic and noisy, like parked cars, signs, cyclists, pedestrians, traffic lights, sidewalks and storefronts, and greater speed differentials too. And my guess is that most highway accidents are caused by distracted driving, drunk driving, or fatigue, not an issue for robodrivers.
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chriswaco 16 hr ago +2
Also note that they've been tested in cities with notoriously good weather - San Francisco, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Austin, Atlanta, etc. They just started testing them in Detroit, but not during the winter yet. That should prove an interesting challenge.
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bussymonke 16 hr ago +2
it'e going to be hilarious
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fatandfly 12 hr ago +1
I can't wait to see how they navigate all of this road construction in the winter.
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chriswaco 12 hr ago +1
My GPS app sent me in circles up near Flint the other day because it couldn’t keep up with all of the construction closures.
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rob_allshouse 16 hr ago
Yeah. MobileEye’s camera based system works fine for Tel Aviv and Chandler AZ, but no way it goes to Seattle. This the ugly lidar and radar concoctions for Waymo. Much more weather safe.
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mulletstation 12 hr ago +1
Lidar breaks down in fog/rain/mist/snow. Radar isn't precise enough to use as an exclusive system so it's already tied to how well the vision/lidar is working.
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rob_allshouse 10 hr ago +1
With all three working together, the level 5 systems are pretty robust in most weather.
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Everythings_Magic 11 hr ago +2
At this point they just need to be better than all the bad drivers.
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HillarysFloppyChode 17 hr ago +3
I would take a driverless car over a drunk/elderly/sleepy/impaired driver any day. Or anyone who drives a Nissan Altima. They have teething period and won’t be perfect at first, but it’s like any new technology where it will get to the point where it’s near perfect. But that’s proper self driving cars like Waymo, not whatever Tesla is selling. Oh and Waymo’s also don’t smell like the c**** cologne uber drivers spray. If you’re a woman or vulnerable, a Waymo won’t harass and violate you.
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bussymonke 16 hr ago
when's the last time you had a drunk elderly sleepy impaired uber driver 🤣
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HillarysFloppyChode 16 hr ago
I’ve had elderly and distracted uber drivers.
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bussymonke 16 hr ago +1
oh wow did you end up in the ocean 🤣🤣?
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rrdubbs 17 hr ago +2
That’s the key isn’t it? Good data on incident per 100k miles or whatever compared to a population average is the key here, not achieving a 0 incident rating. But it’s new tech and thus newsworthy. Aside there was an event of a Waymo doing a hit and run in San Francisco a bit ago.
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Gnom3y 17 hr ago +5
The other issue at play here is this: if a driverless car gets in a wreck, who's liable? The person in the car? The owner of the car? The manufacturer? The answer can't be "nobody", so until we solve this particular issue and set it into law, I don't think driverless vehicles should see widespread adoption, regardless of how good their incident rate is compared to the general population. Because as you imply, "0" isn't a realistic target, but "1 or more" is already a problem legally.
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Revolution-SixFour 16 hr ago
Everyone throws this up like it's some gigantic hurdle. First, Waymo has solved this by saying they own the cars and they are liable. Second, this isn't going to be written by legislation it's going to be written by user agreements and court cases. Tesla isn't as confident in their software, so they say "full self driving" but keep your hands on the wheel because if you crash it's your fault. >until we solve this particular issue and set it into law, I don't think driverless vehicles should see widespread adoption, Too late? We're well on the road to that with Waymo operating in ten cities with plans for 20+ by end of year.
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bussymonke 16 hr ago +2
oh boy just more crashes and nightly non-stop honking with idle energy waste. can't wait.
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mulletstation 12 hr ago +1
When the Autonomous EV isn't moving there's almost zero idle waste. Gas cars use like 30% of the total available energy from gasoline. EVs use like 95% of the energy transferred into them.
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bussymonke 11 hr ago
So the communication between the cars, app, computers and the cycle of computation that is required just happens to come out of thin air. wow amazing ai solution. incredible job man. you ai bros got it all figured out 👏👏you must work at like a really big company like nvidia or google wowzers man im really impressed good job
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mulletstation 11 hr ago +1
Yeah that's exactly what I said lol. I can tell you've looked at this topic deeply and have a background in engineering.
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bussymonke 11 hr ago
wow what made you think that holy c*** you ai bros are incredible!! your ai c**** compliments wont work on me man i wish i was an engineer but im too stupid
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mulletstation 11 hr ago +1
Bro doesn't know the relative magnitudes of energy use of high speed machine vision inference, base model training and verificiation, and the energy required to move a 4000 lb car. Like your phone has enough energy to run a multi-camera machine vision model at full speed for hours. You think the energy an EV has means that is going to be significant?
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Gnom3y 16 hr ago +1
There are more than 800 cities with more than 50000 residents in the US alone. I wouldn't call 20 cities 'widespread'. And it's not corporate ownership I'm worried about - it's private ownership. If I have a self driving car and it gets in a wreck, even though I had no input or possible way to control the vehicle, it sounds like precedence set by Waymo is that I'd be liable as the owner. That's a problem. Or you go the Tesla route and you get fancy cruise control, and then it's not really 'self driving' anymore is it? And for the record, I don't think that my point is a "gigantic hurdle" as much as it is a "watch how the consumer gets fucked because the law didn't keep up with technology again." For once I'd like new and interesting things not be beta tested on the backs of the populace without any recourse when it inevitably goes sideways.
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fatandfly 12 hr ago +1
That is a gigantic hurdle that needs to be written into law if 100% truly driverless cars are to ever become a thing. If my car is in self-drive mode and hits someone while I'm asleep in the back who is responsible? The car's manufacturer? The agreement you sign will no doubt absolve them of any liability. The insurance company? They would probably point the finger back to the cars manufacturer, or just not even insure self driving cars at all. The owner of the car? I shouldn't be held responsible if I wasn't in control. As it stands now all of the self driving features in cars requires you to be alert and ready to take over if something goes wrong. If you can't answer those questions above then we can never progress past the current stage.
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Revolution-SixFour 17 hr ago +1
Are you talking about the crash in April where a person hit the Waymo then ran away on foot? Not sure how that would have any relevance. https://www.ktvu.com/news/waymo-passengers-request-medical-assistance-after-outer-sunset-crash-other-driver-flees-foot That data is already available and shows a dramatic improvement over human drivers. The nice thing about autonomous cars is most cities have put in robust reporting mechanisms.
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rrdubbs 16 hr ago +1
I’m with you there. Re-reading my comment sounded more skeptical than I intended, more just stating that we shouldn’t overreact to events like these. There was another incident but I’ll see if can find the source. It was more the Waymo went back to the garage after the incident IIRC.
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JuggaRexx 17 hr ago -4
The problem is that a GOOD driver is a very small % of the population. So yes WAYMO is still way safer than your average driver.
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MrMCCO 17 hr ago +1
Exactly. If these glitch out with smaller rate than people on the road having medical incidents (not to mention drunk / high / staring at their phone) then I’d rather drive amongst them
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bussymonke 17 hr ago
you've pissed off the ai sloppers edit: LOL THEY'RE SO MAD 🤣
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Ok-Mycologist-3829 12 hr ago -1
But these are supposed to be safer than human drivers. LOL
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Everythings_Magic 11 hr ago +3
I still trust them over humans. Humans are that bad at driving.
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Ok-Mycologist-3829 9 hr ago +1
I'm sure that you will be proved wrong if these get unleashed in all jurisdictions. All sorts of unforeseen "glitches" that aren't coded for are possible.
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limited8 10 hr ago +1
They are, though.
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Ok-Mycologist-3829 9 hr ago +1
There is no data on how these things operate in every environment. Nor can they pre-plan for every possible thing that can happen in the way that a human can react to random c***. And every time "glitches" emerge, you look sillier.
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yulbrynnersmokes 16 hr ago
Did the front fall off?
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Outlulz 11 hr ago +1
Nah, they aren't Teslas.
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exmojo 8 hr ago
Imagine you need to call your bank because there is a big discrepancy on your balance. You're greeted with a robo-support system, where you're not talking or interacting with an actual human. Feel your rage. Your anger. WHY ARE WE PUSHING FOR **MORE** NON-HUMAN INTERACTIONS?!?! HOW IS IT MAKING OUR LIVES EASIER?! (ANSWER: it's making the C-Suite and investors more money) "Oh well, sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it "hallucinates" THEN **WHY** ARE WE F****** TRUSTING IT?!?! Would you trust a human who is hallucinating to answer your questions? Go ask the crack-head on your city corner for life advice and follow it, and see where that leads you.
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Phenomenon101 17 hr ago -7
This makes them recall them, but killing people or blocking police doesnt. F****** unbelievable
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hypersonic18 15 hr ago +3
There isn't really a fix for someone deciding to ram you in the ass at 100 mph
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joeDUBstep 16 hr ago +1
To my knowldge, the only two fatalities that involved a waymo were not even the fault of the waymo? They were rear end collisions.
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Inside-Yak-8815 17 hr ago -1
Sounds like AI suicide.
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obalovatyk 3 hr ago +1
“Waymo STOP” “I’m afraid I can’t do that.” \*drives into lake\*
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